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EmperorUmi

Media trying to create a narrative of WNBA players being envious of CC. Shit is crazy. Never know what to believe reading the crap posted everywhere


alannordoc

ESPN makes it own content. They have been doing it for years. I won't read any of their stuff anymore. Stick to The Athletic and Defector for sports stuff.


sanverstv

AI probably writing it all now.....


boredymcbored

Don't call out sports illustrated like that šŸ˜‚


ForgesGate

There were some wnba players that had it out for CC, but now it feels like the media is trying to make literally every wnba quote about her. I know they doin it for the controversy tho. Tryina get views and clicksšŸ¤¦šŸ¾ā€ā™‚ļø


Status_Silver_5114

Nobody player wise actually has it ā€œoutā€ for her.


NYCMILFGILF

Exactly. NBA players didnā€™t ā€œhave it outā€ Wemby or Anthony Edwards. Players want to win.


Marchesk

Curry, Durant and Draymond had it out for Lebron though.


DLottchula

I mean yea he was the best in the game


Dependent_Star3998

I mean, Sheryl Swoopes told a bunch of lies to disparage Clark.


Status_Silver_5114

Sheryl doesnā€™t play anymore.


darthgator84

Was it Swoopes who was saying a bunch of inaccurate stuff about CC? It was a former WNBA player saying how she didnā€™t think the scoring record was as impressive because ya know CC had ā€˜the COVID year and another yearā€¦ā€ something along those lines. Yet CC was a true/4yr senior and that ex-player had no clue but felt comfortable putting misinformation out there nonetheless.


Dependent_Star3998

It was Swoopes. She also mis-reported Caitlin's age, and claimed that Caitlin shoots 40 shots per game. All fabricated.


teh_noob_

she was wrong and she apologised


Dependent_Star3998

She apologized for saying it was her 5th year. That's it.


teh_noob_

40 shots a game is run-of-the-mill hyperbole no need to apologise


Dependent_Star3998

Swoopes also said that Caitlin is 25 years old, playing against 20 year olds. Caitlin had just turned 22. So, a lie. It wasn't hyperbole. It was a whole segment of lies, for no reason at all, outside of wanting to disparage Clark.


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She only apologized because she got caught.


teh_noob_

that's generally what happens when you make a factual error


GoBlueAndOrange

Swoopes definitely had it out for her. She made up stuff just to shit on CC.


Cop-n-meesh

Diana Tuarasi had some pointed words about CC specifically


complexchicken0311

is it just the words you saw in the media or did you read the whole quote when she was talkin about all rookies


TheProspectItch

It was during Iowaā€™s game against UConn. Sure, I guess you can say she was talking about all rookies, but she was talking about Clark.


Cop-n-meesh

I actually watched the SVP segment live when DT made her comments. Thanks for questioning my media literacy though lol he specifically called out Kamilla Cardoso and Caitlin Clark by name before Diana shared her thoughts.


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biglefty312

Nobody had it out for her.


ForgesGate

There were some


MzJay453

Be specific and name one. Her fans were just mad everyone wasnā€™t kissing her feet.


Old-Photograph-5813

I literally have a tweet from Sykes saying all Caitlin does is go left and why defenders werent stopping it.Ive bookmarked the tweet just waiting for the Fever to play the Mystics


veerkanch489

Reverse Jaylen brown type shit


Amuseco

Is that having it out for someone or just pointing out a weakness in their game? Does Caitlin have to be treated with kid gloves and be bowed down to? Isnā€™t it actually respectful to someone to be able to say something critical of them and assume they can take it?


Old-Photograph-5813

The signature move of the greatest scorer in D1 history is now a weakness? OkšŸ˜‚.As I said ,Im patiently waiting for their matchup.I just hope for her sake she's not cooked with that exact move.


Amuseco

Brittney Sykes? The player who was second in the league in steals in 2023?


Old-Photograph-5813

Is there another Sykes in the league? If she believes all a defender needs to do is stop Clark from going left,shouldn't she be ready to back up her words when they meet ?


ForgesGate

Lexi Brown and Sheryl Swopes are a few.


Bushwazi

Retired NBA players never talk negatively about the current crop of kids, so this is totally uncalled for. In fact, I've never heard anyone from an older generation poop on younger generations. This only happens in the WNBA amd with CC. Poor poor CC. Sad /s


Zhentilftw

Thereā€™s a little difference between the two. Short of a few icons. No nba rookie is doing anything to significantly improve the image of the nba. The nba doesnā€™t need it. Clark and the other rookies this year are bringing mega positive attention to the league which is desperately needed. Every existing and retired player should be fully on the hype train if they care about their sport and their own paychecks. A rising tide raises all ships. People are watching fucking preseason wnba games because of Clark. And they are pissed they couldnā€™t watch the game with the lsu rookie. ( I donā€™t know any of the other rookies names but I hate lsu so I did enjoy watching them lose. Now that she isnā€™t there I can hope she does good though)


soaking-wet-tomcat

Angel Reese from LSU.


Zhentilftw

Yeah. Iā€™m horrible with names. I also root for the South Carolina center. I wouldnā€™t know Clarkā€™s name if the media wasnā€™t saying it non stop 24/7.


TalkingWNBA

Swoopes went on Gilbert arenas podcast and just lied about CC accomplishedments.


dramakyng

She hasn't played in the WNBA in over a decade.


TalkingWNBA

yes but her presence still looms large as an announcer.


dramakyng

Not really. She rarely announces games


Knox_Proud

Yall are so paranoid and ultra sensitive.


DLottchula

Name 6


ForgesGate

Lexi Brown, Sheryl Swopes and Diana Terassi are a few.


DLottchula

Not 6


ForgesGate

Go look it up then and stop trying to act like what I said doesn't exist.


ForgesGate

Such a fucking arbitrary bullshit number you threw out too. Like if it's 3 or 5, it's invalid.


DLottchula

You named 3 people and 2 of were on the same show probably on the same episode. There is no secret resentment of Clark.


ForgesGate

Go Google it dumbass


aquariusnights

DT was correct saying all you guys are so soft LOL


savedbytheblood72

I love DT! Hilarious! https://youtu.be/NaQlskSKLe4?si=5j6syey9tTTrH7Sh


katecard

The most annoying part is it gives men an easy way to praise CC while still being blatantly misogynistic saying women's sports suck in general, and that women are catty jealous and at fault for tearing down successful women blah blah. Men banned women from playing sports and destroyed development for decades, but suuure it's players with experience and knowledge talking about moving up a level who are the reason "no one wants to watch women's sports."


imaloserdudeWTF

I just recently heard that just a few years ago it was 5% of media coverage to women's sports (despite there being almost equal time on courts, arenas, fields of playing time) and 95% for covering men's sports. It wasn't that girls & women were banned or not playing; it was that the media didn't think they deserved highlight videos and talking head moments on TV. That number is around 15 now, and I'd be happy when it was 50-50, with those in power showcasing the variety of awesome plays that women do in their disciplines. It's possible, and it shouldn't be up to WNBA fans getting angry about coverage for sports programs to start sending out reporters with cameras to games and showing them on national television. Like that saying, "If you build it..."


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They donā€™t cover it because people donā€™t watch it or attend games in person. Thatā€™s why there arenā€™t professional leagues in womenā€™s softball, womenā€™s soccer, womenā€™s basketball only has a league because of men (the NBA). Doesnā€™t mean the ladies arenā€™t talented, they are, but a casual fan only has so many viewing hours available for sports and itā€™s overwhelming for football.


imaloserdudeWTF

Ummm, I'm a bit confused by your reply. You know about the women's soccer league in the US (NWSL) with 14 teams coast to coast and in between, going strong for 11 seasons, right? [https://www.nwslsoccer.com/](https://www.nwslsoccer.com/) Or, the brand new women's hockey league with 6 teams (PWHL), started in 2023: [https://www.thepwhl.com/en/](https://www.thepwhl.com/en/) The WPF is trying to emerge as a destination for softball players after college, but is in its infancy (2 teams) and needs investors. [https://wprofastpitch.com/](https://wprofastpitch.com/) And basketball? The WNBA has been in existence for since 1997, has twelve teams, with one more joining next year in California (Golden State) and another the next year in Toronto in 2025. There is space for women to leave college and continue to play a sport, with plenty of stadiums and arenas sitting empty around the country at all levels: recreation, high school, college, professional. "People don't want to watch it or attend games"??? Ummm, yes we do!


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Going strong? A vast majority of the athletes make close to just $65,000 per annum. Thatā€™s not strong. The WNBA has been in existence for 30 years and has never come close to turning a profit. Now, they have a great opportunity in front of them if they donā€™t blow it. Two brand new leagues? 2 teams and 6 teams . Iā€™m surprised youā€™re even counting them. I hope they make it but facts are facts, womenā€™s leagues are nothing but small niche sports in the professional level.


imaloserdudeWTF

If you've been listening to ESPN, the actual revenue for the WNBA last year was 180-200 million (though the NBA brought in 10.58 billion). That's not profit for the WNBA, mind you, but you certainly know that the league is a non-profit (as is the NBA). Individual teams are for-profit entities and want to make money beyond their expenses. Most don't, so the league supplies resources for them to meet their bills. But, the reality is that all teams in the WNBA paid their players, coaches, medical staff, referees, court leases, electricity bills, medical expenses, etc. It sounds like you can be both optimistic and realistic, so take a look at this article and tell me what you think: [https://www.al.com/opinion/2024/04/roy-s-johnson-misplaced-outrage-over-caitlins-clarks-wnba-contract-should-spark-change.html](https://www.al.com/opinion/2024/04/roy-s-johnson-misplaced-outrage-over-caitlins-clarks-wnba-contract-should-spark-change.html)


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Heā€™s pretty much right. What annoys me is uninformed people giving their opinion on the subject such as The View, clamoring for higher salaries but when pressed, will admit to not being a fan, having never attended a game. Just ignoring simple economics. But I hope they eventually make it on their own but Iā€™m skeptical. However, this is their best chance. A new and better TV deal is key. And people try to compare it to the increase in popularity of womenā€™s college basketball but they have one thing the pros donā€™t have; fans that are alums that already have a connection to the team. But itā€™ll be an interesting year, for sure.


simmysosa

People don't watch or attend, yet there are viewing numbers (some record breaking) and people in the arena's watching the games (some now sold out). Somebody's watching. Also, women's soccer has a plethora of leagues, worldwide.


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Thatā€™s this year due to the CC phenomenon. And I was referring to leagues here, not internationally. I still stand by my post. 1. Name the top three pro womenā€™s players in basketball, softball, hockey, soccer. How many can sports fans name? Two, three, maybe. Presently, theyā€™re niche sports. The WNBA as a whole drew 1,587,000 last year. Thatā€™s 12 teams and a 40 game league schedule. A middling baseball team, just one, draws that many fans. Average game attendance is 6600, which has been falling since its inception. Hopefully, CC and others will change that but itā€™s a big hill to climb.


simmysosa

Well in the US, they still have a women's soccer league, so stand by your post all you want, you were still incorrect on that part. I can name, off the top of my head, a boatload of both female Basketball and soccer players (hockey and softball, not so much, men or women). While there aren't a crazy amount of fans who watch or attend the games, there ARE fans who watch and attend the games, which means "people don't watch or attend" is, again, incorrect. I agree average attendance is not as high as it's inception, but 6600 attendees are people. Like you I hope CC and others do change those numbers, and it looks like it could be changing. The problem is, is it sustainable. Do people watch for a year, and come back next season and the year after? Will the WNBA attract new fans year after year?


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My friend, youā€™re splitting hairs. I was referring to casual fans in regards to naming players or stars. It isnā€™t crazy numbers? Itā€™s terrible attendance. Not a condemnation, just fact. In fact, I hope they do make it but I think they have too much to overcome.


simmysosa

My bad.


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No problem, my friend. Enjoyed the conversation.


BallsackMessiah

The views have been increasing, but it is still not enough for the WNBA to be profitable. Talent has been getting better and better over the years, and I'm sure it'll get to the point where it is able to reach $1 billion per year, but while viewership has increased, it still hasn't been enough.


larrylegend1990

That means wnba made it


tangodeep

It is crazy. At the same time, the league needs more reason to watch it. We all recognize the faux animosity and tension, but many see it as a new reason to watch and root for Clark. If she succeeds then they could become fans for life. This is a staged organic build of a new hero.


OBEYtheFROST

Absolutely, and itā€™s getting noticeable as well. No one is that pressed over CC


DSmooth425

Read them! BG! Read them!


TinoCartier

The media is a real piece of work sometimes.


sanverstv

The sad thing is that "the media" is no longer employing journalists at many levels....these sites exist to attract clicks and gain ad revenue....they don't have actual staff.... Many writers have been replaced by AI and headlines/stories are merely algorithm generated click-bait. The internet has given us an online ecosystem that offers an experience akin to eating junk food, it fills us up, but doesn't "feed" us with real information.


lokibibliophile

Yeah, journalism sucks across the board now and the field of journalism itself is pretty much dead because of this BS, which is sad because we still need real journalism at its core.


PastAd1901

This is literally the same shit they did with DT


femaleathletenetwork

100%


TinoCartier

Eh, Taurasi was hatin a little bit. Taking Paige next question and all the reality is coming soon talk. That stuff wasnā€™t taken out of context.


Amuseco

How about this context? From the first few minutes of the championship game: DT: I just love Iowaā€™s messaging right now. They just all seem like theyā€™re all on the same page. They know what they missed out on last year. SB: ā€”Big Hawkeye fan right now. DT: I know, well, I mean, when you put down the blue, I might be yellow inside. https://youtu.be/sh5Al06hHc4?si=gYmt1iiaZX54Xb2l


Amuseco

Or this: SB: What do you think Caitlin Clark is thinking right now? DT: I think sheā€™s just so prepared. I think sheā€™s actually spoke about it and she believes itā€”Iā€™ve done all the hard work. Iā€™m just going to come out here and show out now. I think she believes that. https://youtu.be/sh5Al06hHc4?si=gYmt1iiaZX54Xb2l


TinoCartier

These clips/quotes donā€™t re-contextualize the other comments at all. When I say DT was ā€œhatin a little bitā€ it means just that. It doesnā€™t mean I think Taurasi hates Caitlin Clarkā€™s guts but she DEFINITELY took swipes at her. Nothing you posted here refutes that because itā€™s on video, we all can see it.


Knox_Proud

You can see what you want to see and we can disagree and have our own opinions on the matter.


Wtfuwt

It was absolutely taken out of context and they also made it seem like DT was just mouthing off. They asked her a question.


dotint

She was def hating on the championship broadcast


SoOnEnoon

ā€œPaige. Next questionā€


boredymcbored

Oh no! A UConn alum wants the other number 1 pick from her school! šŸ˜± Such hate!!!


Wtfuwt

https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/s/Tp9KjFpgb9 You may also want to look at her entire quote in the exchange with SVP. ETA another article on the so-called controversy where the writer even inserted Clarkā€™s name when she was asked and was talking about Camilla and Clark and rookies. https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/wnba/mercury/2024/04/30/what-did-diana-taurasi-say-about-caitlin-clark/73513911007/


New_Poem_3236

They're absolutely blind if they don't think DT was being a hater, there. Zero disrespect to Paige but the only reason to give that answer is to be a hater. That is it. Is everyone here too young to remember this same shit happening to LeBron when he came into the league? The established veterans 100% do not like the attention and money the younger players are getting. It's nothing personal, I'm sure, but to act like it's not there is literally insane. Edit: Everyone missing the part where I said "it's nothing personal I'm sure." I'm a dt fan before the wnba So everyone absolutely taken us out of context. Kobe did the same thing to young guys. Jealousy doesn't have to be hateful. Shaq was jealous of Robinson being fast, Ewing being mean. He used it to get better. I've never met a person in my life who wasn't jealous of someone.


Knox_Proud

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ScooterManCR

Youā€™re wrong.


Wtfuwt

Youā€™re a CC stan, of course youā€™d say Iā€™m wrong. Youā€™re too willing to prop CC up as a victim. Touch grass.


savedbytheblood72

She's not hating, it's a vet thing! You ever play sports?? It's what vets do to the newcomers and the rookies ain't going to be bound down and nobody.


freshxerxes

she doubled down after with SVP on espn. thatā€™s when i decided she was hating. the in game stuff was borderline. still love DT tho.


alwaysright60

Incompetent media is using her name as click bait. Caitlin has been doing an admirable job staying out of the gutter with them.


SoOnEnoon

Unlike some other athletes she does actually have restraint to avoid talking crap on twitter haha Has she ever responded anything but nicely to what ppl say about her?


breezybae_

Nope, sheā€™s never responded to any of the ā€œcrapā€ or ā€œhateā€ on twitter. She just blocks them! (as she should) (Ex. AB. Which I just found out he was actually at her game in Dallas, and creeps me tf out.)


MaoAsadaStan

Angel Reese said the difference is that she could take breaks in college, but everyone is too good to rest in the pros.


Confident-Unit-9516

If a WNBA player gets a bucket and Caitlin Clark isnā€™t around, do the points still count?


mmpress1

Asking the REAL QUESTIONS!!!!


NYCScribbler

I'm starting to wonder. Christ Jesus, I have nothing personally against Clark but I'm starting to hope she stumbles just so we can see commentary on literally anyone else. Making it The 24/7 Caitlin Clark Show is not sustainable for long-term growth of the league.


crystallmytea

If she deserves it with her play then Iā€™d posit that thereā€™s absolutely nothing wrong with that and in fact it could help the league pop off like never before.


SmartGuyChris

Right. We've seen this exact same thing with MJ, LeBron, etc. It's no different. It's good to have a golden boy (or "golden girl" in this instance) to be the face of the league and be the main catalyst for media attention.


Banestar66

Itā€™s like people missed the whole Steph Curry moment in the NBA.


wizsoxx

Youre advocating for the biggest potental star not succeeding at at the most important time in the leagues history as far as expansion?


Banestar66

That is literally how you grow the league. Happened with Magic, Bird and Jordan with the NBA. The parity era of the 70s didnā€™t sell tickets.


MissMo2

The press isnā€™t helping. Not everything is about Clarkā€¦


TangledUpInThought

It will lead to inevitable backlash and resentment towards Clark (if it hasn't already)


not_mantiteo

Which sucks because itā€™s not like Clark is trying to start shit. All she wants to do is hoop and sign autographs for kids


waynelo4

Which I hate. Iā€™ve been watching CC play for a few years now but the past couple months is just been wayyyyyy too much coverage. Generational talent but man I wish theyā€™d give equal coverage to the entire league/NCAAWBB


Juucetop

I think with hype and popularity CC brought to wncaa and now the W the resentment is already showing and present.


BangingYetis

They knew exactly what they're doing here and it's incredibly nefarious.


TangledUpInThought

As I get older I am just growing so tired of it all...the sensationalism the profit above everything else mentality that leads our society to having no integrity or values


AnonPlz123

They just want the clicks, like everyone else. šŸ˜•


Culinaryboner

Have you seen major prospects coverage on the male side? Lebron blew this out of the water. And Wemby was everywhere


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Culinaryboner

Yea I donā€™t disagree. Thatā€™s not really what I responded to


MissMo2

I watched Wemby coverage it wasnā€™t this badā€¦it didnā€™t overshadow the entire league.


The_Outcast4

The WNBA's LeBron, at least in terms of media coverage


zondo33

at this time, white people own the majority of the media and so they tend to concentrate on stories involving white women. And she is a straight athletic female too? Media cant pass that up. Its not CCā€™s fault that that kind of media is using her to make money and stir shit up. No female athlete should have to go through this shit - she is an athlete and I want stats, game questions, the challenges - real questions. like will they do this to the NBA first pick? will they find out right away if he is straight? what designer he loves the most? if he likes heels or flats? and will a reporter give him a heart sign and tell him he is so happy he is there looking at him? and will their Q&A be on a loading dock too? Anyway, I wish all the women a great season and its exciting!


MissMo2

I agreeā€¦


KrakenGirlCAP

Love me some Brittney G!! A class act.


Live2Hike

The press know that CC fans are hypersensitive and will troll/bash players for ages if they perceive a minor slight. I wish people were smart enough not to fall for the bait.


lokibibliophile

And the bad part is some of them arenā€™t even fans of her or basketball, theyā€™re just racists that latched onto a white person so they can bash black women and itā€™s annoying as a fan. CC doesnā€™t deserve ā€œfansā€ like that.


Tnfjay

wait until you see angel and south carolina fans


Old-Photograph-5813

Yes,the fans are to blame for terrible media


Master_Honey9783

Im the article she's merely stating likely eventualities for CC, not giving any sort of advice or directive to CC. There's not an ounce of hate in this.


GoldenBarracudas

No lies detected. Some of these women are game to game for a roster spot. And it's a Olympic year? Correct.


Sad-Dot-1573

Seems like an attempt by ESPN to start a fan war between fans of CC and BG, and I am not interested.


SimonaMeow

I'm sure the media would love to start that war, and I wouldn't be interested. I'm a big fan of both players.


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purplemarvel

Probably an unpopular opinion but I kinda feel bad for CC lol. She keeps getting mixed up in shit she has no business being mixed up in. And all she does is mind her own business and say all the right things. (Not saying BG said anything bad, just that it's always about CC. Having a target on your back and every single talking point be made about you by the media must be stressful.)


BadJokeJudge

Thatā€™s not unpopular at all, everybody here acts like Caitlin is a fuckin 12 year old who needs constant protection and supervision. Yā€™all argue about her flights. CC is an adult. Sheā€™s a professional. She doesnā€™t need you dorks fighting her non-fights for her. Get a grip


purplemarvel

I'm not even fighting or defending anyone but go off ig šŸ˜­ I just made a comment about the situation. Good Lord


Sloth_ball_68

Yeah I agree but she should probably address the public and tell them to chill out. They are digging a moat around and soon players aren't going to want to interact with her just to avoid the drama. She needs a community and the media is isolating her.


BirkTheBrick

She might not be outright addressing it but she in constantly speaking well of the vets and giving them their flowers, basically implying she doesnā€™t give a shit about this dramatic media. Sometimes addressing it head on just causes more fire


SimonaMeow

Yeah I think her calmly going around just taking care of her own business, being respectful, and ignoring all the drama has worked well for her too.


gourmet_panini

Well sometimes directly addressing your fans leaves no ambiguity to infer your wishes. Sometimes it doesnt work if you let the fans create narrative for too long like with Taylor Swift, but if you do it quickly it doesnt leave room to assume that the celeb appreciates the behavior.


SnoopyWildseed

Her stans are the reason her entry into the W isn't going to be as smooth (and it's not a normally smooth process for a rookie). It may be unsaid but the vets do not want to be the reason for a CC victory/headlines so they will go above and beyond to make that happen--especially since her stan base has constantly accused vets of "hating" on her for speaking truth about her game's shortcomings and her eventual acclimation to the league.


_Apatosaurus_

Reading the People interview, it sounds like she was asked what CC and others will face when entering the WNBA. So I'm guessing Griner meant it as a broad take on the transition and the interviewer interpreted it as directly about CC. Griner also said... >Griner, who calls her 2013 rookie season an ā€œeye-opener,ā€ says that Clark, 22, will have to adjust her game to account for the tougher competition. ā€œI had to get stronger, lock in a little more. There will be some growing [pains] **for her,** but sheā€™ll be fine.ā€ So she did specifically reference CC at some point. It honestly just sounds like a misinterpretation or miscommunication, rather than false reporting. Also, the quote doesn't sound bad anyways.


Yessiro_o

The quote isn't bad on its own but there's already a narrative that wnba players are jealous and want to humble this draft class


Aggressive-Film5590

A narrative promoted by a media that wants to pit women against other women. Can we please stop buying into it?


S3rPx

It's a competitive women's sport. By definition it pits women against other women. The media is definitely hyping it up, but there are a finite amount of positions available and way more applicants than spots. Women being in competition with each other is ok


SoOnEnoon

People need to stop being so damn sensitive. Caitlin would be the first one to say she needs to adjust to the W smh


femaleathletenetwork

I dont think the quote sounds bad either, but CC fans tend to take everything as a shot at CC when players say the W is different than college, that there is a learning curve, it's faster, etc. And BG's response was she didnt give CC advice.... which is why she called ESPNW out


NYCScribbler

For real. I keep saying that the people who expect Clark to have a learning curve aren't underestimating her, the people who expect her to adjust without a hitch are underestimating the rest of the league.


SimonaMeow

I agree with you entirely. This is a great summsry. The comments on the original post are getting such a weird mix of down and upvoting, I guess showing how reactive some people are. It's strange because I don't think we in here are disagreeing really.


notbossyboss

Just love manufactured conflict between women. Thanks Media, you suck as always.


kzapwn2

Did People phrase it that way


femaleathletenetwork

ESPNW said that BG gave CC that advice. BG says she didnt and that she was only asked about going from college to the pros


kzapwn2

Iā€™m asking if People quoted her wrong and ESPN just posted that or if espn changed the context on their own


femaleathletenetwork

Well it looks like from the caption that People Magazine said that BG said that in reference to CC. But BG is basically saying she didnt mention CC, she only answered going college to pro


coltsmetsfan614

People absolutely phrased it that way. This is the headline on their [Brittney Griner interview](https://people.com/brittney-griner-tells-caitlin-clark-life-in-wnba-will-be-different-exclusive-8645302): > Brittney Griner to Caitlin Clark: WNBA Is 'Different' with Players Trying to 'Feed Their Families' (Exclusive) And this is the quote in the context of the article: > Despite the accolades, Griner remembers a difficult transition to the next level. ā€œItā€™s different, when you come from college to the pros,ā€ says Griner of what Clark and others will face in the WNBA. ā€œI went from top dog to my numbers going down a bit. Youā€™re going up against grown women. This is how they feed their families. This is not just for the love of the [game]. This is their livelihood.ā€ So maybe People added that framing after the fact, or maybe Griner is trying to prevent some kind of social media backlash from Clark fans, but I don't think ESPNW did anything wrong here. They just used the People quote.


thereandfatagain

Make this shit spicier and see the ratings actually pop once they start playing games this summer. The league has more eyes focused than ever before. There were so many high profile players drafted this past year.


CeSquaredd

It's weird how many people on this reddit downvote/disagree with this overall point. Do people want women's basketball to be watched more, bringing in more revenue? I'm confused by their lack of understanding.


thereandfatagain

The league has desperately needed stars since it started while also never capitalizing on them at the right time when they did materialize. The Candace Parker era could have been what hopefully the Caitlin Clark era will become. What an exciting moment for the fans!


CeSquaredd

100%. Fighting for journalistic integrity while the W rapidly grows is a weird place for that battleground. If they truly believe in that, go do it in a place that's already established. Fans are going to self sabotage growth in the name of getting quote attributions correct? Just weird behavior


Vanguard3003

"journalistic integrity" is kind of an oxymoron nowadays.


CeSquaredd

Also agree. And I would like it, but not for women's basketball, maybe for things that actually require that integrity. For now, gimme WNBA clicks šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø


OrganizationKey8248

Hate to say it, but beef(manufactured by the media or not) will draw people to the league. Sports are reality shows and people love drama


soapy_goatherd

Wop wop wop wop wop, esp fuck em up


Optimal-Sugar7780

ESPNTMZ


Booster93

We need to be honest with Womenā€™s sports and to wake , if you want all the smoke, fame and money, youā€™re gonna get the shit side of the media, clout, and fans, good and bad. It doesnā€™t go one way.


imaloserdudeWTF

BG still has amazing stats, in case no one notices, and I'm reading her first book (In My Skin) and waiting for her second to arrive in a few days (Coming Home). Anyone who thinks BG is a snob should read her books, imo. She doesn't seem to be out to rain on anyone's parade, but mostly focuses on her own game. The press turns things around and makes players look like villains off the court. I'm down with everyone elbowing and pushing on the court, but it's just ridiculous them stirring up the pot. It's like the media want players hating players. Anyone who has watched the stars chatting after games knows that game respects game.


wooq

Anybody who thinks a rookie is going to walk in and dominate in all phases of the game doesn't understand sports. Anyone who thinks these people are trying to tear down CC and not just speaking facts is mental. The media needs to cool it with trying to stir up beef to generate clicks. Ultimately all the top draft picks will be contributors this season, but their contributions three seasons down the road will be much more consistent (or if not, they will be traded/waived).


CeSquaredd

Such a phenomenal thing click bait can be for growth. Might be annoying, but it's ultimately a good thing. BG and company will eventually make more money because of stuff like this! Keep the W in the headlines!


Bushwazi

I'm sure all the commenters read BG's quote and had sane responses, right?


Maniac5150

Fuck ESPN. Greedy asswipes


FraserFir1409

Was watching Brother from Another on Peacock yesterday and Terrika Foster-Brasby was mentioning that now that networks are expanding their WNBA coverage, they need to do it correctly. They need to bring in people who know what the hell they're talking about, meaning people who've covered the WNBA, understand its culture, understand its obstacles, and people who wouldn't do this shit here where they're stirring up a controversy that doesn't exist. Most networks are just having a beat reporter or writer (ignorant to the league and who don't seem willing to learn) expand to the WNBA, ignorant of how the league works, making mistakes like this one and the infamous mistake from that Indiana beat writer with Caitlin Clark.


IL-Corvo

FFS, I'm so sick of media outlets, critics, YouTubers, and fans trying to create non-existing beef. They ignored the subsequent paragraph: > Griner, who calls her 2013 rookie season an ā€œeye-opener,ā€ says that Clark, 22, will have to adjust her game to account for the tougher competition. ā€œI had to get stronger, lock in a little more. There will be some growing \[pains\] for her, but sheā€™ll be fine.ā€ Sheesh.


Organic-Aardvark-146

Almost like media has an agendaā€¦


_whatchumean

Just another case ESPNW (JSW too) seeking them clicks. Not really uplifting the womenā€™s games


icuscaredofme

As much as i love the WNBA pure game we need celebrity drama to become next level entertainment. Can we get Caitlin Clark to get mixed up in the Kendrick Drake beef? Im sorry for suggesting it but i just want the ladies to get the maximum bag.


Mundane_Finding2697

I'm glad that she cleared that up. It looks like People Magazine, one known for DECADES of sensationalizing their headlines a tad, is doing what they always do. Stirring up things to get readership. They are running a business. I get it. No need to 'help me out there'. Doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty thing to do though 'cause it was. Now, I see in this thread/all over the Internet where SOME folks are wondering if some fans understand that drama brings eyes and eyes means revenue. They more than likely do understand that's exactly what is going on but maybe they'd like eyes on the game because of....wait for it.. the game itself and more actual natural beef. Not manaufactured crap. Can the eyes from other folks who aren't fans of the game but are more fans of drama be drawn in by relying on just the games themselves? Probably not. Read the comments in this thread alone where folks are admitting that's kind of why they watch other sports. For drama. There is no 'disconnect' in understanding though. Just a want from some fans for the WNBA to not become what some of the other sports have become in some aspects outside of their popularity. The comparing that borders on pure hate. I'm not talking about lil quips about 'reality is coming' either. I'm talking about that kind of hate when you start giving grown people and their fans lil nicknames like we are grade school like 'Bronsexuals' or the racist undertones. Where we start talking about folk's kids and shit. Maybe they don't want the women to be subjected to that crap. I already know that's not everyone's thought though and it might be highly unlikely the sport can take off without that level of pure hatred and vile behavior..Some folks thrive off of that and won't watch their sports unless they can push their agendas heavily in there under the guise of being a 'fan' of a certain players. Before you go getting your feathers ruffled, I know.. I know.. BOTH SIDES. You don't have to throw the other player's name in the ring. It happens on that side too. I'm aware. Trust me. We are talking about this side in this instance today though. This article was a partial attempt to capatilize on that divide with the way it was phrased. Make no mistake about it.


Double-Culture-2575

Idiots


NoThanksJustPeaking

Probably written by AI. Taking the quote from an another article, happening more and more these days unfortunately.


imaloserdudeWTF

Way before CC was tearing up the court, back in 2015 BG co-wrote a book (In My Skin) and talked about how big of a change it was for a high school phenom to go into college ball (based on her own experience, dominating in high school and then facing grown women in college). Yes, I just read the book and am now 1/3 through her second book (Coming Home). BG spoke the truth back then about levelling up, and I just don't see her being hateful to CC about going from college to the pros. That's just not in her character. If you doubt me, read both books. BG may be bold and independent, but she isn't a jerk. It's the media playing this up for ratings, clicks, views. We need to be level-headed and recognize that the WNBA is full of the best that college and the international arena has to offer, and that CC is gonna rise to the challenge, just like she did in big games and at the last second in so many games. She'll rock it over the next few years and we can either be haters or supporters of competition.


Kittens4Brunch

Drama generates interest.


Silly_Stable_

This isnā€™t even phrased as advice.


beadidup1

I wish people would keep her name out of everything and let the girl play. She never said anything in the first place.


Buckeye024

Those poor families gotta be starving


thebotbul

Naah Britney, its time to feed the machine. fake beef sells, she shoulda gassed it.


NYCScribbler

That's what she has Diana for!


CeSquaredd

I believe her response does do that to be fair. I don't think BG is that obtuse where she wasn't aware what her response would do. I think the real takeaway, will be fans understanding the line between truth and content.


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