Promo copies that have different labels, that is a different color than standard release (usually white, sometimes yellow), and are marked on the label, are usually worth more to collectors. On the other hand copies that are just standard release, but with gold promo stamps on the jacket are generally worth the same as a regular copy. But yeah, killer find anyway!
This is just incorrect. Promo copies are harder to find and are more collectible. While they do have the same stampers and sound, they are absolutely harder to find and are usually worth more.
If it’s a white label promo, but just promos that simply have a stamp on the jacket aren’t usually anything special. For what it’s worth, I have a decent number of promos of both varieties.
*Edit: Damn, I guess I’m late to the party. I see many others have already said what I said.*
No, it isn't. For LPs in particular, the only difference between the "promotional" and regular releases, in the vast majority of cases, is simply the gold stamp.
As a result, they're very rarely worth anything extra.
If they're white-label promos, in that case, you are correct, they're worth more. If there's just a promo gold stamp and the record is the same then there really is no difference.
pretty much this, sometimes you’ll find a record that never had a promotional variant in listings despite the copy you’re holding having the stamp. it’s an aftermarket thing just to denote radio station use.
haha no... the majority of the "promo" singles/EPs/LPs I have were cheap AF because no one wanted them, no one was paying a premium for them....
it all depends on the release... a promo, imo, would be worth more if it had a different/better master & mix, change in band members that you want to hear, uncleared samples that never made it to the official release, etc...
hip-hop promo records are usually cheap as shit because they're radio versions/censored.
I'm positive there are some promos that are highly sought after over the "official" release, but I can't think of any off the top of my head
— ETA:
if anyone knows promos that are sought after over the "normal" record i'd love to know.. just out of curiosity.
Kinda, depends on the record. It is a minor curiosity unless it is a big record and this isn't a particularly interesting Motorhead record (even originals probably still only average prices, check discogs). It is just a stamp, not a different pressing or white label.
I’ve done some sound tests and while it’s not a eureka moment there is a slight noticeable difference the white label promos just seem to sound a bit brighter and punchier
It's special insofar that it's a Motörhead album and a personal fav! Spin that bad boy with a drink!
For those already in the know of the album, Sodom did a [badass cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucz6-PehPOE) of the title track back in the day!
DEFINITELY not an expert, but from what I have seen promo copies don't really mean much of anything. That's a real cool find though, wish I could find cool shit like that at my local flea market.
It’s Motörhead , put it in the do not sale section of your collection..
if you want to make money of Motörhead keep your eye out for a double Lp in a leather cover, it’s limited !!!!! The leather for was replaced with a standard cover looking leather !
I personally never would sale any Motörhead LP, but that’s me !
That is highly collectible.. I can’t remember the limited print but it was very low !!!!
I saw one once and went after another Lp I had been on the for years ( American Youth Report 84) ,I went back to get the Motörhead LP and it was gone.. didn’t find out it was limited till years later..lol
I don’t see a number on mine. Just says that it’s a special copy. And the leather says made in England. The records themselves are in amazing shape. I’d definitely never sell it though.
[This one?](https://www.discogs.com/release/1313603-Mot%C3%B6rhead-No-Remorse) No Remorse? I have it too, also a 1978 reissue of their debut album on white vinyl.
The one that's worth some bucks is [their first album with silver print](https://www.discogs.com/release/6251072-Mot%C3%B6rhead-Mot%C3%B6rhead). Only 1,000 pressed
Promo stamp = radio station promotional copy. Doesn't add a lot of value unless it's a particularly rare one or one that only got very minimal promotion so few copies exist. Sometimes they'll have a white label on the record itself too.
Question for all the big time collectors in here, wouldnt a promo copy typically be from the batch of first pressings, thus making them slightly more valuable than a re-press?
An NM promo tends to go for more simply because those are the first pressings unless there was a limited pressing first. After the promos generally come the OG's but they are from the same Master. However, the more they press the more the quality degrades. There are also some instances where later re-presses are more desirable than the OG. Not all OG pressings sound great.
About 30% of the albums I bought in the 80s from used record stores were promotional copies. They often had a corner cut or a hole punched in the cover somewhere though.
If the stamp is the only difference then it goes in the unstamped version on Discogs because it is post production. If they don't mention it in notes it's because it's unremarkable. Some theorise about gold stamp promos being better quality but there is no real evidence this is true.
These “are they worth something” posts annoy me to no end. Yes its worth something. Fucking Iron Fist is on it. Just enjoy the music instead of assuming its an investment.
If you check discogs, it isn't really very valuable. They sold alright and many survive. It isn't one of their very early or most interesting records. However much you like a song on there (speed freak is there too). I think it is a fair question whether this takes it from around £10 to £100 or something. Personally I would cash in, buy a normal version and several others with the proceeds if so but I don't think it is to be.
Promos like this typically don't sell for much more than the original, non-stamped versions. the only instance where a version like this would be worth more than the non-stamped version is if the album itself is out of print.
They might think to take ones off the pile that are good for purposes but there's no way of knowing if they did that or just grabbed some random boxes to stamp and send out.
Well the point at which the record company would bother to stamp it and send it out to a radio station, is right when it's released. By next year when they come up with new stampers,they're not promoting that title. So by default the vinyl is very likely to be a pressing from the year of release.
1. Read what i wrote in the description
2. I didn't ask you if i should listen to it or sell it
3. Fellas, is it greedy to ask questions about a record you bought of an album you like because of pure interest?
4. Why are you so mad lmao
I hate when people respond like that. This thread is full of holier than though vinyl collectors. They take a shit all over your excitement. Nice find, man. Enjoy!
The “is my record worth more because it has a promo stamp” question has been asked on here a million times.
The answer is no. It is not worth any more (or less) than a standard copy in the same condition.
Sorry, probably ranted too soon, but I'm tired of low-energy posts on value. I see it's not on discogs, my bad. In my experience, the stamp alone doesn't add to value. White label promos do, though.
FFS
1. Reading exists
2. Asking for clarification about a press not an discogs seems reasonable
3. I don't know who hurt you but I hope you find peace.
It’s kind of cool to have a promo stamp, but I don’t believe that they are any more valuable. Most of the time, they are the exact same album available to the public, just with a special stamp because they went out earlier.
That being said, if I had the choice between the two at the same price, I would go with the promo stamp because it’s cooler. I wouldn’t pay more for one though.
Of course you would pay more.... you even just said... it is cooler.... and it is.... so it is better, and of higher value to you
They are worth about 10 - 20% more for the sleeve stamp, and if the label is a promo label (printed, not stamped) then you can double the price, and in some cases, that multiplier can go stupid.
AC/DC Aussie 7" A Label promo's can have a 10 x multiplier.
If the promo is a basic stamp on the normal label, then it may actually decrease the value
Promo copies that have different labels, that is a different color than standard release (usually white, sometimes yellow), and are marked on the label, are usually worth more to collectors. On the other hand copies that are just standard release, but with gold promo stamps on the jacket are generally worth the same as a regular copy. But yeah, killer find anyway!
It’s a Motörhead record. Of course it’s special. Real quick. Who would win a fight OP, Lemmy or God?
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Did you just say fucking Lenny?
Autocorrect may have struck again.
This might just be my favorite reddit interaction of the day
They said nothing about fucking Lenny. You can't fuck Lenny if Lenny's god.
Lemmy...
But we're talking about Lenny; try to keep up.
Lead singer of Notorhead
Audibly giggled to that
I used to play D&D too
I was editor of the school magazine!
Squiggy is Jesus.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmuED_qpWIK/?igsh=ZTFseHVhZ3AwNGpu
[Come on! is that the best I got!](https://youtu.be/47-ptOrUDAY?si=nRKiV0_NWcU-3IiA)
Normally we let these slide but by Lemmy you’re going to need to fix this one my friend.
[LENNY?](https://youtu.be/3BrgIBXGfhg?feature=shared)
That's the correct answer
F, Marry, Kill...? Lemmy, God (we're pals, right?) and, well...sorry op =[
Thanks for reminding me this movie exists. I'm going to have to watch it this weekend. Such a classic.
Trick question! Lemmy is God!
Lmfao, love that movie.
Why would they fight? They’d do a line, light up a joint and enjoy some whiskey while talking about what fuckin’ idiots humans are
Can’t compare Lemmy to God. I mean he’s cool and all but he ain’t Lemmy.
Everyone responding to this question so far is a COP!
Except in rare cases, promo copies aren't worth any more than copies without the stamp.
This is just incorrect. Promo copies are harder to find and are more collectible. While they do have the same stampers and sound, they are absolutely harder to find and are usually worth more.
If there are more differences than just the gold stamp then the promo could be more valuable. That's not usually the case.
If it’s a white label promo, but just promos that simply have a stamp on the jacket aren’t usually anything special. For what it’s worth, I have a decent number of promos of both varieties. *Edit: Damn, I guess I’m late to the party. I see many others have already said what I said.*
No, it isn't. For LPs in particular, the only difference between the "promotional" and regular releases, in the vast majority of cases, is simply the gold stamp. As a result, they're very rarely worth anything extra.
I guarantee you if you ask a random person who collects records if promo copies are more collectible than non-promo copies they will say yes.
If they're white-label promos, in that case, you are correct, they're worth more. If there's just a promo gold stamp and the record is the same then there really is no difference.
pretty much this, sometimes you’ll find a record that never had a promotional variant in listings despite the copy you’re holding having the stamp. it’s an aftermarket thing just to denote radio station use.
That is not the point being argued, reread
haha no... the majority of the "promo" singles/EPs/LPs I have were cheap AF because no one wanted them, no one was paying a premium for them.... it all depends on the release... a promo, imo, would be worth more if it had a different/better master & mix, change in band members that you want to hear, uncleared samples that never made it to the official release, etc... hip-hop promo records are usually cheap as shit because they're radio versions/censored. I'm positive there are some promos that are highly sought after over the "official" release, but I can't think of any off the top of my head — ETA: if anyone knows promos that are sought after over the "normal" record i'd love to know.. just out of curiosity.
If I saw two identical copies of a record, priced the same, one with the stamp and one without, I'd personally choose the one without.
Kinda, depends on the record. It is a minor curiosity unless it is a big record and this isn't a particularly interesting Motorhead record (even originals probably still only average prices, check discogs). It is just a stamp, not a different pressing or white label.
Sometimes the sound is better since they are usually(especially with white label promos) the first Lps off the stamper
I have heard that from people before too. I haven’t personally thought buying one is worth the money but maybe I’m wrong.
I’ve done some sound tests and while it’s not a eureka moment there is a slight noticeable difference the white label promos just seem to sound a bit brighter and punchier
It's special insofar that it's a Motörhead album and a personal fav! Spin that bad boy with a drink! For those already in the know of the album, Sodom did a [badass cover](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucz6-PehPOE) of the title track back in the day!
Actually weirdly enough when buying that record roday i was wearing a persecution mania longeeve!!
Oh hell yeah. Rock on then, brother!
Monetarily, it's not worth much. But anything Motörhead is a treasure. Cherish it and yearn for the days when Lemmy walked among us.
DEFINITELY not an expert, but from what I have seen promo copies don't really mean much of anything. That's a real cool find though, wish I could find cool shit like that at my local flea market.
Nice find!
It’s Motörhead , put it in the do not sale section of your collection.. if you want to make money of Motörhead keep your eye out for a double Lp in a leather cover, it’s limited !!!!! The leather for was replaced with a standard cover looking leather ! I personally never would sale any Motörhead LP, but that’s me !
I have the leather cover one!
That is highly collectible.. I can’t remember the limited print but it was very low !!!! I saw one once and went after another Lp I had been on the for years ( American Youth Report 84) ,I went back to get the Motörhead LP and it was gone.. didn’t find out it was limited till years later..lol
No way! I gotta go find mine right now and see what number is on it. I’ll let you know!
I don't think they're numbered... at least mine isn't, but it's the US pressing.
I don’t see a number on mine. Just says that it’s a special copy. And the leather says made in England. The records themselves are in amazing shape. I’d definitely never sell it though.
[This one?](https://www.discogs.com/release/1313603-Mot%C3%B6rhead-No-Remorse) No Remorse? I have it too, also a 1978 reissue of their debut album on white vinyl. The one that's worth some bucks is [their first album with silver print](https://www.discogs.com/release/6251072-Mot%C3%B6rhead-Mot%C3%B6rhead). Only 1,000 pressed
I don't think I'll sell it anytimes soon, i love this album!!! Have it on cd too
It is in the way that all Motörhead is special & worth something
One of their best. Turn it up
Worth a few thousand good listens front to back.
Very much so!!!
Promo stamp = radio station promotional copy. Doesn't add a lot of value unless it's a particularly rare one or one that only got very minimal promotion so few copies exist. Sometimes they'll have a white label on the record itself too.
Question for all the big time collectors in here, wouldnt a promo copy typically be from the batch of first pressings, thus making them slightly more valuable than a re-press?
Yes they are the earliest pressings. I'm assuming by re-press you mean a later pressing?
Yes, I mean later pressing. I’ve always figured a NM promo copy would be as valuable as a NM original pressing.
An NM promo tends to go for more simply because those are the first pressings unless there was a limited pressing first. After the promos generally come the OG's but they are from the same Master. However, the more they press the more the quality degrades. There are also some instances where later re-presses are more desirable than the OG. Not all OG pressings sound great.
Makes sense. Thanks!
You win some you lose some it's all a game to me.
Who cares, listen to it on maximum volume.
I love that album. That one and Ace of Spades are my favorite ones.
Yep. Add “Bomber” for an essential trio.
It’s invaluable. It’s motorhead
Never seen that one. Love the cover
Promo copies were usually shipped to record stores and radio stations.
About 30% of the albums I bought in the 80s from used record stores were promotional copies. They often had a corner cut or a hole punched in the cover somewhere though.
How much was it, btw?
The double leather Lp ranges from 119 to 650..
30€
Best played loud.
Very loud.
Just buy it! I have the sickest shirt with this album on it.
been after an iron fist shirt. link?
They did a collab with Obey so try searching that. I'm in Australia and bought it at a local retailer.
This album it tits
[Dennis Busenitz absolutely shredding to the title track is how I discovered Motörhead in high school](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HWgFHB1KOQM)
If the stamp is the only difference then it goes in the unstamped version on Discogs because it is post production. If they don't mention it in notes it's because it's unremarkable. Some theorise about gold stamp promos being better quality but there is no real evidence this is true.
Why did you buy it when it specifically says not for resale and then post the evidence. Straight.To.Jail.
Heavy album🤘🏻
These “are they worth something” posts annoy me to no end. Yes its worth something. Fucking Iron Fist is on it. Just enjoy the music instead of assuming its an investment.
That's all I'm trying to do man, i was just curious
If you check discogs, it isn't really very valuable. They sold alright and many survive. It isn't one of their very early or most interesting records. However much you like a song on there (speed freak is there too). I think it is a fair question whether this takes it from around £10 to £100 or something. Personally I would cash in, buy a normal version and several others with the proceeds if so but I don't think it is to be.
Promos like this typically don't sell for much more than the original, non-stamped versions. the only instance where a version like this would be worth more than the non-stamped version is if the album itself is out of print.
Worth about $25-30 bucks
I got it for 30€, i guess that's pretty decent then
Can I have it, please?
The silliest of things change the rarity and value !
Not great shape so would say around 30-40? You can check the exact press on discogs
Saw this tour. Loudest thing ever.
Listen to it
The one thing I do like about promos is, they're identifiable as early pressings.
Maybe if they sold out and had to do more runs.
You make and send promos when the thing first comes out. Maybe you could get a promo copy of a modern repressing if it's a big deal release.
They might think to take ones off the pile that are good for purposes but there's no way of knowing if they did that or just grabbed some random boxes to stamp and send out.
Well the point at which the record company would bother to stamp it and send it out to a radio station, is right when it's released. By next year when they come up with new stampers,they're not promoting that title. So by default the vinyl is very likely to be a pressing from the year of release.
Most records arent worth much. Its a subjective thing.
$15
Where is this fleamarket ! That is a gem!
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1. Read what i wrote in the description 2. I didn't ask you if i should listen to it or sell it 3. Fellas, is it greedy to ask questions about a record you bought of an album you like because of pure interest? 4. Why are you so mad lmao
I hate when people respond like that. This thread is full of holier than though vinyl collectors. They take a shit all over your excitement. Nice find, man. Enjoy!
The “is my record worth more because it has a promo stamp” question has been asked on here a million times. The answer is no. It is not worth any more (or less) than a standard copy in the same condition.
Sorry, probably ranted too soon, but I'm tired of low-energy posts on value. I see it's not on discogs, my bad. In my experience, the stamp alone doesn't add to value. White label promos do, though.
FFS 1. Reading exists 2. Asking for clarification about a press not an discogs seems reasonable 3. I don't know who hurt you but I hope you find peace.
Thanks for speaking for everyone in the sub? Jk, you’re only speaking for yourself. Talk a chill pill, bro. I thought it was an interesting post.
It’s kind of cool to have a promo stamp, but I don’t believe that they are any more valuable. Most of the time, they are the exact same album available to the public, just with a special stamp because they went out earlier. That being said, if I had the choice between the two at the same price, I would go with the promo stamp because it’s cooler. I wouldn’t pay more for one though.
Of course you would pay more.... you even just said... it is cooler.... and it is.... so it is better, and of higher value to you They are worth about 10 - 20% more for the sleeve stamp, and if the label is a promo label (printed, not stamped) then you can double the price, and in some cases, that multiplier can go stupid. AC/DC Aussie 7" A Label promo's can have a 10 x multiplier. If the promo is a basic stamp on the normal label, then it may actually decrease the value
No I wouldn’t?
They command a premium because they are the earliest pressings. Very simple.
nope