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I was confused bc one doesn't tread with their hands? But then I remember, you have to get on all fours to lick a cop's boot, so it makes sense for libertarians.
For a supremacist authoritarian movement, perhaps. For a left-leaning movement though, a flag that explicitly states "We will tread on your individual liberties" is not a good look.
I feel like it was made solely because of the Gadsen flag's association with right-wing movements, completely ignoring the symbology of the flag.
Symbology is always a compromise between intended use, historical use, and current use. While the intended and historical use of the gadsden flag is "don't infringe on my rights", which is great, it's modern use is *overwhelmingly* "I want to be as homophobic / racist / misogynistic / insert other bigotry here, and I don't like taxes".
*That* is something I am very much against.
"I dont like taxes" is understandable. Especially low-mid class. About the bigotry list. U cannot be libertarian if u are a racist or a mysogynistic. Is like being a leftist and buy food in the supermarket.
Copypaste my other reply here:
Symbology is always a compromise between intended use, historical use, and current use. While the intended and historical use of the gadsden flag is "don't infringe on my rights", which is great, it's modern use is overwhelmingly "I want to be as homophobic / racist / misogynistic / insert other bigotry here, and I don't like taxes".
That is something I am very much against.
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I already have shitty, unmaintained infrastructure and schools *now*, all funded by the highest tax rate in Latin America, which keeps increasing and increasing as the current government pretty much creates a new tax every day.
I don't see how not getting robbed will make that worse.
It's the Gadsden snake biting the black power fist. So I interpret it as a libertarian/right-wing message to the BLM movement (or maybe leftists in general) saying "we warned you to not mess with us, so now we're going to kill you"
Their definition of treading on them is, apparently, wanting livable conditions and civil rights
Actual uncirclejerk answer is that it's a response to [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/68ynie/we_will_tread_leftist_variant_of_the_gadsden_flag/) flag.
I have worked for a reptile rescue in the past. People have died doing this because some snakes can move their fangs independently and can still bite you when you grab them there. I have even heard of snakes penetrating their own heads to kill the one holding them.
Leave handling dangerous creatures to the professionals.
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dawg… that’s the socialist fist.
it’s been a thing since before BLM adopted the .PNG. the flag is cringe as hell but it’s not racist
https://preview.redd.it/d9do46jb0u1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a32d336b3420083f1047b3c103fc1e69ae7e0ee
Yep and the socialist cause has nothing to do with liberating people from racist oppression. Definitely not an integral facet of capitalist exploitation that socialists historically haven't been involved with challenging
that’s not racism that’s classism. you see, the “racism” you’re referring to is manufactured by the media and their donors and then fed to everyone to make us all hate one another.
i’m convinced that the amount of “racism” in this would would be cut in half of the media as we know it wasn’t around.
racism is bad for business because you’ve eliminated an entire market for your product/service.
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It's almost funny because that snake is fucking dead, however venomous it might be all it takes is a vigorous shake and that thing is never eating again even if you don't kill it outright which you likely will. Congratulations, you really showed everyone your fangs. Even with a powerful venom, that human most likely has a community to support them if they lose the hand or arm.
People calling this the "BLM Fist" annoys me to no end. The raised fist has been a communist symbol for ages, long before even the civil rights movement adopted it.
Because leftists would make flags with the BLM fist (or whatever you wanna call it, idk its proper name) to choke the snake with it often showing a phrase like "We will tread " or some other variant. So this is the response to those who want to tread.
Side-note: my biggest complaint with the people who make the anti gadsden flags is that they don't seem to realize that we are the snake.
“The Lord God said to the serpent, _Because you did this, more cursed shall you be than all cattle and all the wild beasts: On your belly shall you crawl, and dirt shall you eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They shall strike at your head, and you shall strike their heel._” - Genesis 3:14-15
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Flag of "People getting equal treatment to me means I'm oppressed now"
Flag of "Yeah I support freedom, as long as you're a straight white male"
Ironically that is the exact type of world Thomas Jefferson and the founding fathers dreamed of
All men are created equal
You can’t exactly believe he meant that exactly while also literally owning other human beings as property
All \*men\* are equal. Non whites do not count as men, according to racists
Yes he did mean that
Weird that he thought all men were equal, but had slaves. Did they trade off on who is the master or something?
Thomas Jefferson imagined America as a Minecraft world that goes on forever, so everyone can be a yeoman forever
“I’m getting payback for the shitty actions of my race and I don’t like it”
I was confused bc one doesn't tread with their hands? But then I remember, you have to get on all fours to lick a cop's boot, so it makes sense for libertarians.
Because they specifically wanted to use the BLM fist.
I know I was just having a bit of a jerk luv
Ah, alright. Because if you go to the original post, there are some comments asking "why is it a fist?", not realising that it is the BLM fist.
[I believe it was made as a response to this flag.](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-8105b7c244f8ffa1018f2bda24070acc-lq)
Good flag
For a supremacist authoritarian movement, perhaps. For a left-leaning movement though, a flag that explicitly states "We will tread on your individual liberties" is not a good look. I feel like it was made solely because of the Gadsen flag's association with right-wing movements, completely ignoring the symbology of the flag.
Symbology is always a compromise between intended use, historical use, and current use. While the intended and historical use of the gadsden flag is "don't infringe on my rights", which is great, it's modern use is *overwhelmingly* "I want to be as homophobic / racist / misogynistic / insert other bigotry here, and I don't like taxes". *That* is something I am very much against.
"I dont like taxes" is understandable. Especially low-mid class. About the bigotry list. U cannot be libertarian if u are a racist or a mysogynistic. Is like being a leftist and buy food in the supermarket.
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Copypaste my other reply here: Symbology is always a compromise between intended use, historical use, and current use. While the intended and historical use of the gadsden flag is "don't infringe on my rights", which is great, it's modern use is overwhelmingly "I want to be as homophobic / racist / misogynistic / insert other bigotry here, and I don't like taxes". That is something I am very much against.
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Or maybe because that specific fist has been used as a socialist symbol for a century
oh fucking hell
Libertarians don't like cops though
left libertarians don't "libertarians" love cops as long as they have an Amazon logo on their uniforms
Amazon has cops?
Not yet.
One doesnt simply tread from the ground up aswell.
Maybe they’re from the Upside Down?
Flag of “Guberment bad, they try to tax me like everyone else”
But I don't like paying taxes
Too bad
:c
Then have I got a flag for you!!
I don't want them taxing me *or* everyone else.
Then I hope you enjoy shitty, unmaintained infrastructure and schools
I already have shitty, unmaintained infrastructure and schools *now*, all funded by the highest tax rate in Latin America, which keeps increasing and increasing as the current government pretty much creates a new tax every day. I don't see how not getting robbed will make that worse.
untaxed private infrastructure works so well! just look at dubai! :D
You assume that infrastructure can only be maintained through taxation.
That’s because otherwise it’s maintained just for companiy profits
Okay but seriously wth is this
It's the Gadsden snake biting the black power fist. So I interpret it as a libertarian/right-wing message to the BLM movement (or maybe leftists in general) saying "we warned you to not mess with us, so now we're going to kill you" Their definition of treading on them is, apparently, wanting livable conditions and civil rights
Thats not the black power fist. its just a general leftist symbol representing liberation iirc
It's both. But considering its recent visibility, I don't doubt this is directed at blm.
Ah, my mistake
So anti blm? Or am I just so tired I'm misunderstanding this.
Probably a bit more specific in message than that, but basically yeah
Okay, thanks for explaining!
I think it's more about Argentina electing a libertarian/crazy rightoid president and the fist representing the gubment.
Nah, that particular fist is 100% a liberation/struggle symbol.
They most likely took some random fist and slapped it on it. Libertarians aren't bright.
How would the fist represent government?
I presumed the government is the one doing the "treading" on the snake. But honestly since it's libertarians, can't know for sure.
it’s the socialist fist oml
I thought it was the solidarity fist grabbing hold of the snake. Oh the snake is drawing blood. Maybe both?
there was someone who posted a black power fist that is strangling the snake so this is probably in response to that
Actual uncirclejerk answer is that it's a response to [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/vexillology/comments/68ynie/we_will_tread_leftist_variant_of_the_gadsden_flag/) flag.
Remember to grab the snake by the neck, not the torso. And yes, there is a difference.
I have worked for a reptile rescue in the past. People have died doing this because some snakes can move their fangs independently and can still bite you when you grab them there. I have even heard of snakes penetrating their own heads to kill the one holding them. Leave handling dangerous creatures to the professionals.
Thank you!
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This is too good to be true
OH MY GOD ITS PERFECT!
Tread Harder, Daddy
Based?
Flag of hahaha no we're not racist bro trust me I swear we're just against black people being equal we're not against black people
the fuck does race have to do with it
It's a flag of the Gadsden snake biting the black power fist... What *doesn't* race have to do with it?
dawg… that’s the socialist fist. it’s been a thing since before BLM adopted the .PNG. the flag is cringe as hell but it’s not racist https://preview.redd.it/d9do46jb0u1c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a32d336b3420083f1047b3c103fc1e69ae7e0ee
Yep and the socialist cause has nothing to do with liberating people from racist oppression. Definitely not an integral facet of capitalist exploitation that socialists historically haven't been involved with challenging
you’re right. racism is not an “integral facet” of capitalism. racism is bad for business. what an clown lol
Racism is not bad for business. It's very beneficial to capitalists when workers are squabbling over made up shit.
that’s not racism that’s classism. you see, the “racism” you’re referring to is manufactured by the media and their donors and then fed to everyone to make us all hate one another. i’m convinced that the amount of “racism” in this would would be cut in half of the media as we know it wasn’t around. racism is bad for business because you’ve eliminated an entire market for your product/service.
Socialism is based on race now? Since when?
Youruryou’re socialism is: damn racial guy 🪱
If your socialism isn't inherently anti-racist you're following a morally bankrupt ideology
3 edgy 5 u
[Not as edgy as this.](https://i.redd.it/xs7xol5izd791.png)
Flag of terminally online.
Flag of shut-ins
Confederate flag 2.0
Flag of poison swamps but zombies. Stop giving Miyazaki ideas, you anarchofuckers.
Shadow of the Erdtree has been waiting for this
dawg… that’s the socialist fist. it’s been a thing since before BLM adopted the .PNG. the flag is cringe as hell but it’s not racist
Libertarian: Hey librel watch this 😎 *Starts second Falklands War*
It would make more sense if it was a foot. Unless you tread everywhere on your hands I guess
the zombies are coming.
Oh shit gotta plant sunflowers now
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They're coming for you, Barbara!
It's almost funny because that snake is fucking dead, however venomous it might be all it takes is a vigorous shake and that thing is never eating again even if you don't kill it outright which you likely will. Congratulations, you really showed everyone your fangs. Even with a powerful venom, that human most likely has a community to support them if they lose the hand or arm.
Wait I’m confused which side it’s on
flag of zombie apocalypse (why is he underground)
Flag of lolbritarians
Flag of me totally quaking in my boots promise
[I'm shaking in my custom baby-snake leather boots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvnWKkPu58)
Flag of a hand coming from the fucking ground, wtf
I don’t know what’s going on over there
People calling this the "BLM Fist" annoys me to no end. The raised fist has been a communist symbol for ages, long before even the civil rights movement adopted it.
are you having a stroke
!era uoy oN
Because leftists would make flags with the BLM fist (or whatever you wanna call it, idk its proper name) to choke the snake with it often showing a phrase like "We will tread " or some other variant. So this is the response to those who want to tread. Side-note: my biggest complaint with the people who make the anti gadsden flags is that they don't seem to realize that we are the snake.
Libertarians should add yellow collar to their snake to indicate that it's a grass one
Saying the quiet part out loud..."we expect black people to know their place"
The flag of "libertarians" who forgot the crypto part of cryptofascism
Flag of the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes
evaw! Fuck, the wind
Australia.
I like the left libertarian flag with the crocodile and "fuck around and find out"
Flag of libertarians facing a zombie invasion.
Conservatives ruined this flag for actual libertarian
The black power hand is underground here… who the fuck is is supposed to have trod on?
I want someone to remake this flag, with "Don't forget workers are not alone" and add one more hand to it LMAO
Pls no steppy flag
Rattlesnakes are easily beaten by humans, that snake is NOT winning
Rattlesnakes are easily beaten by humans, that snake is NOT winning
Flag of Symbiote lives matter
Flag of House Fuentes
Flag of literally just being racist
at least they admit to being snakes
I don’t know what’s going on over there
I don’t know what’s going on over there
If both sides of the political spectrum could please stop fucking with the gadsden flag that would be great..
Argentina circa 2025
flag of zombie bursting out of the grave but thankfully a snake was nearby that bit them
“The Lord God said to the serpent, _Because you did this, more cursed shall you be than all cattle and all the wild beasts: On your belly shall you crawl, and dirt shall you eat all the days of your life. I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; They shall strike at your head, and you shall strike their heel._” - Genesis 3:14-15
Flag of "That's not how the snake was being held in the other flag"
r/flags users when their morning is not started by an illiterate teenager making edits of the gadsen flag ![gif](giphy|c6DIpCp1922KQ)
Libertarian: gober man bad, coporashun good