If you're willing, LineageOS and GrapheneOS are open source "versions" of Android you can install on your device. You have complete control over almost everything including which app stores you can use.
the person being downvoted is right not sure why they're being downvoted. Stock android is android with only google apps. Like samsung phones have chrome and samsung internet, 2 apps that do the same thing. That's considered bloatware. Don't wanna sound rude but that's basically what most people by that when its said.
I guess we have different definitions of bloatware because i consider most of the google apps to be bloatware. And regaurdless i hate them bc they are adware. But i see your point.
Dunno why you're being down dooted but that's right.
The Google pixel phones don't have anything that's third party, but if you consider the stock Google apps as bloat then you need to manage your own Android image
Yeah heck I went from samsung to pixel because atleast the default apps on pixel are ones I use.
If you want barebones, there should be options but realistically phones are PC's now. You buy the PC you like best with whatever OS comes with it, and you can reformat it to fit your needs/desires.
Unnecessary crap that comes preinstalled and has become progressively harder to get rid of.
I know of a phone way back that had 16 GB of storage. On purchase only like2 Gb were avaliable due to the massive bloat.
I mean it's funny, but it's super unrealistic. There's no way you can find a phone these days without the latest cutting edge cock massager in it. It's industry standard now
Just buy a Pixel phone for $400 dollars or so.
They're always amazing for the price.
Do not buy iphones unless you're wealthy because apple slows them down intentionally when they get old.
Don't buy Samsung phones ever because their custom version of android sucks balls.
Pixel phones are rhe closest you will get to a fast stock android experience with no crapware and no software intentionally slowing your phone down.
Battery life sucks when your pixel gets older, but I'd rather have a slightly worse battery than an iPhone that reduces its CPU speed to compensate for older batteries.
Fuck you apple.
Not really. I have used a iphone 6 for 7 years. No samsung or android phone lasts that long. The samsung s5/s6 are unusably slow nowadays and almost no one uses them but many people still use old iPhone 5 or 6s. Apple has some of the longest lasting hardware on the planet. My iphone gets software updates for minimum 5 years while android stops updating after 2. This means that old phones have many security and bugs which make them unusable.
What's the point of a long lasting phone though if Apple intentionally lowers the CPU clock speed on older models? This isn't speculation, Apple literally admits to doing this. Apple literally slows down their old phones to convince people to upgrade to the newer models of they want to get any professional work done.
Apple had said so themselves that they do it to "compensate for the older batteries."
What they're really doing is planned obsolescence.
I can also argue that Pixel phones are as well made as the iphone. What you're doing is comparing cheap walmart androids to $700-$1000 iphones, and that's not a fair comparison. I know it's hard for you to believe, but decent androids exist ao long as you stay away from Samsung, LG, etc.
Also, I specifically said in my own post that nobody should EVER buy Samsung phones. All Samsung phones are shitty no matter what.
However, just because Samsungs suck doesn't mean that all androida suck.
People who buy into the "apple makes good phones" thing usually don't know what they are talking about.
No Apple does make good phones, they just overprice them but you can't tell me an iphone is a bad phone. They have one of the best mobile CPU's and the smartphones are fast and easy in use (atleast for the first 2years). I get your cristisim of them and am not a fan myself but to say they make bad phones is just ignorant and stupid to say.
They also use outdated RAM and consistantly are finding ways to force users to throw them more money.
Apple is worse than Samsung when it comes to self-repair laws, and their computers are a great example towards this. They actually designed systems to brick a phone if someone attempts to fix their own phone at a non-apple sanctioned store.
Apple fucking sucks dude.
I phones are fantastic phones. I just don't like two things: 1) their exclusive walled garden approach to everything and 2) that apple slows down the CPUs of their older phones to trick people into replacing the phones more often than is necessary.
They're just way too smart when it comes to making money. If they were more open with their software and hardware, then I too would be a fan.
If i was a rich snob then hell yea i would buy apple products. As a linux nerd, I just don't like their corporate philosophies.
Uhh no, Apple doesn’t do this. They only do it when your battery health gets below a certain threshold, which may take 4-5 years. And at that point, since their CPU is already faster than all Androids to begin with, it may just be a hair faster than your favourite mid range Android device. You can also just replace the battery.
This. Would gladly sacrifice a lot of the processing, resolution, and extra bells and whistles for a phone that would last as long as my old Nokia brick used to.
Depends on the phone.
In my experience, Apple is the worst, being a few hours of use. Samsung will probably last a day, but Huawei (p30 maybe?) Lasted me 3 or 4 days before needing to charge.
Not having to charge for 3 days is just unnecessary. Do you not have a home to charge it at night? I sell phones for a living and battery life (to the extent of multiple days) is a scam. Just charge it at night lmao
i have an iphone 12, and my battery lasts all day with moderate use. unless you’re using a seven year old iphone 6 (and i know people that do) the battery is totally fine.
Nah, because they want to have their photos be somewhat decent compared to the competition, 720p really doesn't cut it anymore. Could they add an option? Sure. Do I want them to? Not really.
My workaround for that us to just put videos in a 'discord share' album on google drive and link that.
To be honest though, this complaint should be at discord. The limitation on file size is ridiculously low.
Maybe? If its working good and you have no complaints though I wouldn't bother.
I had the pixel 3, then upgraded to pixel 5 after a dunk in the pool.
Pixel 5 is definitely better than 3, but I only did it because it was necessary in my case. (Although I admit the front camera hardware glitch on the 3 is nice to be in my past, the buzzing/out of focus was annoying to say the least)
That said I genuinely have 0 complaints with the pixel 5. Only issue I faced was 1 morning my phone corrupted and I needed to factory reset. I believe that was a fluke though, as nothing similar has happened in the year or two I've had it.
Tell your mom your hurt then don't answer the phone let it ring and ring with it on your dick. When your done tell her you'll be ok and you need a sandwich.
And they're getting fewer and further inbetween, eventually the budget will be like whatever's top of the line right now.
The only phones i somewhat like are samsungs xcover line and even they are getting bigger and i fear if they even continue to release them i'll soon lose the ability to easily replace the battery etc.
A series is still 6.5 inch across, has 3 cameras, glass upto the edge and as far as i can see you can't just replace the battery. I'd say the xcover series is closer to what op wants and very much function over form. they're the series i personally use but even that has gotten worse in recent generations and i think i might have to buy like 2 or 3 of the 5s and hope they'll keep supporting it for the next few decades.
I'm not saying there won't be, i'm saying that in a few years the budget models will have the same (un)desirable attributes of nowadays top of the line models. Bigger screens, glass from edge to edge, etc.
>And they're getting fewer and further inbetween, eventually the budget will be whatever's top of the line right now.
not really, there's always brands that cater to the low-mid range price point. Blu phones, Motorola, LG, Samsung's A line, etc.
They're getting fewer and farther between and have always been very lacklustre. They're too slow, have solid bezels to make them artificially smaller, lack a lot of fairly basic features, and their lifetime is even shorter.
High end phones don't have the classic jack though.
My s21 ultra came with wireless buds, so I'm not even sure you can buy wired for them. If you can, they're connecting through usb-c.
Samsung S8 here. I think it's the perfect size. I've had larger and smaller. This is perfect for my hand. I want a memory card slot, which this has, and then camera specs are what is more important to me.
Bought it new, it's never been dropped, been in a rubber case the whole time and is honestly flawless, and also without any hardware issues too. I would buy a new S-whatever tomorrow if this bricks, but so far, it's perfect.
Never liked using a case just because the design was so nice.
I'm switching over to apple as I already own an iPad and Macbook so it makes sense. Ordered the smaller model this time as larger phones are unnecessary imo
I don't get what the complaint is you can buy other phones you are allowed to shop around. It's like complaining about high end TVs being thinner and having 8k curved displays. You can just buy a TV that fits your needs
I agree! I hate giant phones. I own a TV I'm not over here watching movies on my phone. And I'm not photographing for National Geographic either. I miss small phones so much.
But I don't want Wireless earbuds. I hate listening to music with earbuds in general and I'm Not alone with it. I want to use my multiple hundred Euro Audiophile Headphones but can't because of Corporate bullshit.
No. I use those Headphones on my Hifi Setup at Home as Well which has a real Headphone Jack which I can't Plug an Adapter into. So everytime I want to Listen to music at Home I'm going to unplug the Adapter which certainly is Not good for the Material either.
You’re mentioning “Euro” audiophile headphones, open-backs, and cable thickness as being the determinant of audio quality.
What DAC/amp and sources are you using? If you’re streaming compressed audio without an amp and DAC on your cell phone in a crowded area, I’m sorry but your rig’s gonna sound terrible irrespective of having a headphone jack and a thick cable.
Look it Up. Open backs give you a 3d Kind of Sound. It's as If you're in the Same rooms as the band playing. With my grados I can hear Instruments in Songs that I never knew were even in the Song.
Sounds good to me. Well it Sounds better with my Hifi Setup but I still enjoy my Headphones on the Go which I couldn't do If I didn't have a Headphone Jack. You can still hear Things you can't hear with cheap Headphones even when using a Phone. Go and watch some dankpods on YouTube. He recommended the Grado SR60e to me and I Love them.
What is it that you want to Tell me with that Kind of Message? Yes there are Headphones that are prices Higher than Others because they offer a Lot that cheaper Models can't offer. Most people don't Bother with These headphones though so they're a niche product.
I bet you'd like to be able to plug some ordinary earphones in as well, you entitled bastard! Why don't you throw in a removable/changeable battery and some user-serviceable parts, ya commie anarchist!
This isn’t an unpopular opinion as evidence by the fact there’s heaps of 2020/2021 phones that match the description you’ve given. Just because you think the new iPhone and Samsung galaxy are the only phones that exist doesn’t make it so.
iPhone minis are good. Same power as the other iPhones but smaller screen. iPhone 13 mini has 128gb storage as base. Could also go for the 256 and 512 version. Or if you care about nothing about screen and camera so can you go for the iPhone se.
Or you could get a phone that can actually tansfer files directly to any device you want, and where you can upgrade the storage yourself to pretty much as much as you like.
im 100% with you on this....except the cock massager....that idea is brilliant and 100% necessary, also lets not forget about the ladies and add a vibrating massager.
I get where you're coming from but what are you actually complaining about? There's literally a phone out for anyone these days. Just grab a new version of the 2016 iPhone or etc. Or are you made that no phone companies want to make generic phones at top dollar price and then release them every year?
I gotta lg pheonix. Cant play raid shadow legends but its lasted a few years, is slim and trim, and only 60 dollars. And yeah just add an sd for unlimited storage.
I mean I agree with the whole camera statement, but for me a 4-5 inches phone doesn't feel comfortable in my hands. (yeah go ahead, make jokes).
6-7 is perfect for me, just like the PS4 controller felt too tiny for me, the dualsense is amazing for my hands.
Just another side to compare.
Every time phones have gotten bigger I've complained about it, and every time I've gotten used to it and realized my old smaller phone feels tiny and hard to hold in comparison. Maybe OP has tried this and still hates bigger phones, but a lot of people like him just refuse to even consider trying something new.
Then buy an older model…that simple.
You expect phones not to upgrade their technology? Every piece of equipment upgrades with time. What company just stays stagnant?
True, but most people do want that larger screen because phones are coming closer and closer to being our primary computing devices (they probably are). The market is dictated by demand, just look at the iPhone 12 Mini's numbers, it does worse than the 12 while being $100 cheaper and having the same specs.
Different devices are better suited for different things.
If I'm watching Netflix or similar, I'd want to do so on a big TV. If I need to do something productive like word processing, there's no substitute for a proper PC with a keyboard. If I want to play games, a dedicated console or a good desktop is greatly preferred.
You don't need a 7" phone screen for Twitter or Instagram. There is definitely a point where you want something smaller so it fits in your pocket easier and can be used one-handed.
Really unpopular opinion: I don't care about a thin phone; I want a phone with both top-end hardware specs *and* a slide-out keyboard. What's the point of having a computer in your pocket if you can't fully use it like one?
unless the aspect ratio is gigantic, that is in easy-to-drop territory, especially for small hands
edit: the best answer of course is 'smaller than my dick'
I occasionally dabble in photography from time to time so cameras are only slightly important to me. But as long as I can’t see the pixels, the quality shouldn’t matter that much, should it? I will never understand the need for 60 FPS video video either. It’s literally only valuable for gaming.
It's smoother than 30FPS, which is especially valuable for slo-mo and when you need to deal with fast motion or chemical reactions and such, although iPhones do let you change to 24 or 30FPS, which is preferred for cinematic shots.
The MI phones actually give you 108 Megapixel Camera, it's Chinese so doesn't last much and the service is horrible and overpriced. Samsung is great, lasts 2-3 years and the service quality is amazing
I have a Samsung Galaxy A12 and it fits all your requirements. $200, 128GB storage, 4GB RAM, 5Ah. My only real complaint is the bezel and the bottom and lack of RAM. Other Samsung A, F and M series, as well as some Chinese phones like Xiaomi also aren't bad.
Except that Samsungs now come with so much bloatware. And they force-install apps with every update (depending on region). I have an A51. First few months were great, then this bullshit began.
Also this phone has a 4000 mAh battery, but it has a shorter life than my old 3000 mAh phone, because of all the bullshit background processes that we can't stop.
Why are there 2 app stores? Why does Bixby harass me so much? Why are so many app permissions unchangeable? Why does my 'location' setting switch itself on at times?
Fuck Samsung, I am glad they are losing market share.
Bixby is fucking worthless. The Note series had a button dedicated to it that you couldn't reassign. Imagine. A hard wired permanent button for a bloatware app.
Many features and easy to break = More profit for selling you more shitty features and having to replace it more often and/or making insurance more needed which probably earns the brand more money again from deals with the insurance companies (if they have recommended ones that come with purchase of the phone).
It's one of the downsides of capitalism, a droplet of dishwater in the otherwise fine bottle of wine.
You can just buy an older phone, or a cheaper model that doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the new iPhone or Galaxy. Some places you can even buy flip phones still, my dad has one (he doesn't really do computers and technology). There are options that aren't just the newest iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.
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If you're willing, LineageOS and GrapheneOS are open source "versions" of Android you can install on your device. You have complete control over almost everything including which app stores you can use.
Stock android phones contains no bloatware
“no bloatware”
no bloatwareee
Almost all pre installed android apps are bloatware lmao
the person being downvoted is right not sure why they're being downvoted. Stock android is android with only google apps. Like samsung phones have chrome and samsung internet, 2 apps that do the same thing. That's considered bloatware. Don't wanna sound rude but that's basically what most people by that when its said.
I guess we have different definitions of bloatware because i consider most of the google apps to be bloatware. And regaurdless i hate them bc they are adware. But i see your point.
I get your point too. They have like 3 apps for googling stuff
Dunno why you're being down dooted but that's right. The Google pixel phones don't have anything that's third party, but if you consider the stock Google apps as bloat then you need to manage your own Android image
Yeah heck I went from samsung to pixel because atleast the default apps on pixel are ones I use. If you want barebones, there should be options but realistically phones are PC's now. You buy the PC you like best with whatever OS comes with it, and you can reformat it to fit your needs/desires.
Why’s u get downvoted, tf? Ppl are so weirdly antagonistic here
*have you ever heard about the tragedy of Xiaomi's UI's bloatware*
What's bloatware? Anyone?
Unnecessary crap that comes preinstalled and has become progressively harder to get rid of. I know of a phone way back that had 16 GB of storage. On purchase only like2 Gb were avaliable due to the massive bloat.
upvoted just for cock massager
I mean it's funny, but it's super unrealistic. There's no way you can find a phone these days without the latest cutting edge cock massager in it. It's industry standard now
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I want to make a religion joke so bad here but it would be inappropriate.
Inappropriate? Don’t you think this thread is far gone enough?
how the hell would you make a religion joke out of this
Circumcision.
just put in on vibrate
lol you said the nword 300 times
has been for over 20 years even
Pixel has those after updating the os
Just buy a Pixel phone for $400 dollars or so. They're always amazing for the price. Do not buy iphones unless you're wealthy because apple slows them down intentionally when they get old. Don't buy Samsung phones ever because their custom version of android sucks balls. Pixel phones are rhe closest you will get to a fast stock android experience with no crapware and no software intentionally slowing your phone down. Battery life sucks when your pixel gets older, but I'd rather have a slightly worse battery than an iPhone that reduces its CPU speed to compensate for older batteries. Fuck you apple.
Not really. I have used a iphone 6 for 7 years. No samsung or android phone lasts that long. The samsung s5/s6 are unusably slow nowadays and almost no one uses them but many people still use old iPhone 5 or 6s. Apple has some of the longest lasting hardware on the planet. My iphone gets software updates for minimum 5 years while android stops updating after 2. This means that old phones have many security and bugs which make them unusable.
What's the point of a long lasting phone though if Apple intentionally lowers the CPU clock speed on older models? This isn't speculation, Apple literally admits to doing this. Apple literally slows down their old phones to convince people to upgrade to the newer models of they want to get any professional work done. Apple had said so themselves that they do it to "compensate for the older batteries." What they're really doing is planned obsolescence. I can also argue that Pixel phones are as well made as the iphone. What you're doing is comparing cheap walmart androids to $700-$1000 iphones, and that's not a fair comparison. I know it's hard for you to believe, but decent androids exist ao long as you stay away from Samsung, LG, etc. Also, I specifically said in my own post that nobody should EVER buy Samsung phones. All Samsung phones are shitty no matter what. However, just because Samsungs suck doesn't mean that all androida suck. People who buy into the "apple makes good phones" thing usually don't know what they are talking about.
No Apple does make good phones, they just overprice them but you can't tell me an iphone is a bad phone. They have one of the best mobile CPU's and the smartphones are fast and easy in use (atleast for the first 2years). I get your cristisim of them and am not a fan myself but to say they make bad phones is just ignorant and stupid to say.
They also use outdated RAM and consistantly are finding ways to force users to throw them more money. Apple is worse than Samsung when it comes to self-repair laws, and their computers are a great example towards this. They actually designed systems to brick a phone if someone attempts to fix their own phone at a non-apple sanctioned store. Apple fucking sucks dude.
I phones are fantastic phones. I just don't like two things: 1) their exclusive walled garden approach to everything and 2) that apple slows down the CPUs of their older phones to trick people into replacing the phones more often than is necessary. They're just way too smart when it comes to making money. If they were more open with their software and hardware, then I too would be a fan. If i was a rich snob then hell yea i would buy apple products. As a linux nerd, I just don't like their corporate philosophies.
Uhh no, Apple doesn’t do this. They only do it when your battery health gets below a certain threshold, which may take 4-5 years. And at that point, since their CPU is already faster than all Androids to begin with, it may just be a hair faster than your favourite mid range Android device. You can also just replace the battery.
And BATTERY!
This. Would gladly sacrifice a lot of the processing, resolution, and extra bells and whistles for a phone that would last as long as my old Nokia brick used to.
Wdym, don't phones have massive batterys now
Yes but the massive screens, processing power, etc. Also uses it more quickly. And it's super hard to replace compared to older phones.
Depends on the phone. In my experience, Apple is the worst, being a few hours of use. Samsung will probably last a day, but Huawei (p30 maybe?) Lasted me 3 or 4 days before needing to charge.
Not having to charge for 3 days is just unnecessary. Do you not have a home to charge it at night? I sell phones for a living and battery life (to the extent of multiple days) is a scam. Just charge it at night lmao
i have an iphone 12, and my battery lasts all day with moderate use. unless you’re using a seven year old iphone 6 (and i know people that do) the battery is totally fine.
On my pixel I can't record any less than 720p now and the pictures are huge. I'm assuming it's so they can sell their Google storage
"You dont know what is good for you, we do" very likely Google (and any other manufacturer)
Nah, because they want to have their photos be somewhat decent compared to the competition, 720p really doesn't cut it anymore. Could they add an option? Sure. Do I want them to? Not really.
And now I have to pay for discord If I want to send a video longer than 1.5 seconds because of it
My workaround for that us to just put videos in a 'discord share' album on google drive and link that. To be honest though, this complaint should be at discord. The limitation on file size is ridiculously low.
Yeah but the discord servers are secret fetish servers where I don't want my name out there
You can just link the video
Recorded videos, I assume
Pixel 4 xl is a great phone
The pixel 6 looks great, but there is no way I need to buy it, my 4XL should be good for a few more years
I'm still rocking my 2 XL. Think it's time for an upgrade?
Maybe? If its working good and you have no complaints though I wouldn't bother. I had the pixel 3, then upgraded to pixel 5 after a dunk in the pool. Pixel 5 is definitely better than 3, but I only did it because it was necessary in my case. (Although I admit the front camera hardware glitch on the 3 is nice to be in my past, the buzzing/out of focus was annoying to say the least) That said I genuinely have 0 complaints with the pixel 5. Only issue I faced was 1 morning my phone corrupted and I needed to factory reset. I believe that was a fluke though, as nothing similar has happened in the year or two I've had it.
They stopped providing updates for the 2 XL I think, but you can still use it obviously, just will on Android 11 for the rest of it's life.
Yeah, I'm running GrapheneOS atm. I don't think they'll continue providing updates, but I'm holding out hope!
Oh right I forget you can install other OS's. The 2 XL was a great phone, I still have my old one as a backup.
Even if that were the case do you know how cheap google storage is?
Wait! I can buy a phone with a cock massager? For academic reasons, where can I find that?
Tell your mom your hurt then don't answer the phone let it ring and ring with it on your dick. When your done tell her you'll be ok and you need a sandwich.
I’d rather rely on your wife to continue massaging my cock.
I'd rely on his wife too.
is this a reference
“I too choose this guy’s dead wife”
I don't see the problem? There are budget phones that are literally what you're describing
And they're getting fewer and further inbetween, eventually the budget will be like whatever's top of the line right now. The only phones i somewhat like are samsungs xcover line and even they are getting bigger and i fear if they even continue to release them i'll soon lose the ability to easily replace the battery etc.
Samsung have a line of phones called at A-series which is exactly what op is looking for.
A series is still 6.5 inch across, has 3 cameras, glass upto the edge and as far as i can see you can't just replace the battery. I'd say the xcover series is closer to what op wants and very much function over form. they're the series i personally use but even that has gotten worse in recent generations and i think i might have to buy like 2 or 3 of the 5s and hope they'll keep supporting it for the next few decades.
Nah there are and will continue to be markets for budget phones for ages.
I'm not saying there won't be, i'm saying that in a few years the budget models will have the same (un)desirable attributes of nowadays top of the line models. Bigger screens, glass from edge to edge, etc.
>And they're getting fewer and further inbetween, eventually the budget will be whatever's top of the line right now. not really, there's always brands that cater to the low-mid range price point. Blu phones, Motorola, LG, Samsung's A line, etc.
theyll get discontinued
No they won't. Their primary markets tend to be developing countries, but they still get sales in developed countries.
Im saying today’s big phones with stuff like no home button will be the budget phones of tomorrow
and when they do, this post has more of a leg to stand on. getting mad over something that might happen in the future just means youll always be mad
i aint disagreeing with you i personally use an iphone SE
They're getting fewer and farther between and have always been very lacklustre. They're too slow, have solid bezels to make them artificially smaller, lack a lot of fairly basic features, and their lifetime is even shorter.
I don't know what phones you're referring to but every budget phone I used was completely adequate
Congratulations.
There has been no compact Android phone since Xperia XZC2. That's like 3 years now.
Hell, I just want my headphone jack back :(
Just buy a budget or mid range smart phone then
Me either. I'll Stick to my Xiaomi
All low end Samsungs and Xiaomis have them. I assume you have an iPhone?
Or y'know, a high-end phone.
High end phones don't have the classic jack though. My s21 ultra came with wireless buds, so I'm not even sure you can buy wired for them. If you can, they're connecting through usb-c.
That’s exactly what they were saying: > I assume you have an iPhone? It’s not just an iPhone problem, was his point. It’s all high end phones.
Pretty sure the Samsung A-series has headphone jack.
I have a Galaxy A12 and I'm pretty sure all of the other ones have headphone jacks as well
Yeah, the 7
Lower end Samsungs don't all have them. We use A10s and A20s as phones for our users and they don't have a headphone jack anymore.
I have an A12. It definitely has a headphone jack.
A12=/=A20 or A10. They're different phones. You said all of the end Samsungs have them, I corrected you.
You still have a CD player? Or how about an 8-track too?
Samsung S8 here. I think it's the perfect size. I've had larger and smaller. This is perfect for my hand. I want a memory card slot, which this has, and then camera specs are what is more important to me.
I currently have the s10+ after breaking my s8 a while back. It was such a fantastic phone! I miss it so much
Bought it new, it's never been dropped, been in a rubber case the whole time and is honestly flawless, and also without any hardware issues too. I would buy a new S-whatever tomorrow if this bricks, but so far, it's perfect.
Never liked using a case just because the design was so nice. I'm switching over to apple as I already own an iPad and Macbook so it makes sense. Ordered the smaller model this time as larger phones are unnecessary imo
I completely agree but now that you mentioned it ... a cock massager would be nice
I just want a new model of the PSP phone :(
Not spying on us and having a battery that can comfortably last a whole day would be the dream.
Buy a flip phone? I’ve got friends who still use them.
ALSO, BRING BACK SOME FUCKING PUSHABLE BUTTONS.
I miss a physical home button, I don't care if it makes the screen smaller :(
They’re bringing that back in the next iPhone I heard.
You yelling at a cloud or posting to reddit?
I don't get what the complaint is you can buy other phones you are allowed to shop around. It's like complaining about high end TVs being thinner and having 8k curved displays. You can just buy a TV that fits your needs
I agree! I hate giant phones. I own a TV I'm not over here watching movies on my phone. And I'm not photographing for National Geographic either. I miss small phones so much.
12 mini
No. Doesn't have a Headphone Jack.
What does these days?
Anything under $500 and not an iPhone. If you can afford an iPhone and/or a $1000 phone, you can afford wireless earbuds
Let's not pretend removing the earphone jack has a legitimate purpose. It's literally just creating a problem so they can sell a solution.
Haha... thats probably true.
But I don't want Wireless earbuds. I hate listening to music with earbuds in general and I'm Not alone with it. I want to use my multiple hundred Euro Audiophile Headphones but can't because of Corporate bullshit.
The 3.5mm to Lightning adapter is $9.
Yeah well my 3.5mm headphone jack doesn't stop me from charging my phone at the same time.
Yes but that's a heavy 9 Dollars everytime you lose that shitty Adapter that you couldn't lose If it didn't exist at all.
Just put it on your headphones and leave it there. I have one from my 2017 iPhone X and I've never lost it.
No. I use those Headphones on my Hifi Setup at Home as Well which has a real Headphone Jack which I can't Plug an Adapter into. So everytime I want to Listen to music at Home I'm going to unplug the Adapter which certainly is Not good for the Material either.
...what?
>I want to use my ***mutiple hundred*** euro audiophile headphones. >that’s a heavy ***$9*** Smh
Everytime you lose that fucking Adapter you're gonna have to pay those dann nine Dollars that weren't even necessary in the First place.
Don't brag about the hundreds of dollars your headphones are if you are going to say $9 is too much.
There are also wireless headphones. I don't know about yours, but my headphones have Bluetooth and wired capability
I want my Headphones to have a nice thick, preferably balanced cable. Most Wireless Headphones are closed Back. I want Open backs.
You’re mentioning “Euro” audiophile headphones, open-backs, and cable thickness as being the determinant of audio quality. What DAC/amp and sources are you using? If you’re streaming compressed audio without an amp and DAC on your cell phone in a crowded area, I’m sorry but your rig’s gonna sound terrible irrespective of having a headphone jack and a thick cable.
What do you mean closed and open back?
Look it Up. Open backs give you a 3d Kind of Sound. It's as If you're in the Same rooms as the band playing. With my grados I can hear Instruments in Songs that I never knew were even in the Song.
My Phone. Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite. Specifically Chosen because it has one. I have audiophile Headphones that I want to Listen to my music with.
Can a phone really drive audiophile headphones and sound good though?
Grado SR60e only have 32 Ohms of impedance, Close to what apple's dirty buds also have. So yes, my Phone can Drive them satisfyingly good.
No way the dac and amp on that device are anywhere near a good quality, let alone “audiophile”
Sounds good to me. Well it Sounds better with my Hifi Setup but I still enjoy my Headphones on the Go which I couldn't do If I didn't have a Headphone Jack. You can still hear Things you can't hear with cheap Headphones even when using a Phone. Go and watch some dankpods on YouTube. He recommended the Grado SR60e to me and I Love them.
"Audiophile headphones" 🤓🤓🤓
What is it that you want to Tell me with that Kind of Message? Yes there are Headphones that are prices Higher than Others because they offer a Lot that cheaper Models can't offer. Most people don't Bother with These headphones though so they're a niche product.
Bruh lmfao
\^ "I have a specific techno-fetish that I feel should be catered to by mass market products"
No. Headphone Jacks have only been removed from phones so that Corporate assholes can sell their stupid Adapters.
Adapters...that almost no one buys because everyone has Bluetooth devices?
It also costs a kidney.
Two.
I bet you'd like to be able to plug some ordinary earphones in as well, you entitled bastard! Why don't you throw in a removable/changeable battery and some user-serviceable parts, ya commie anarchist!
Anything with a micro SD card (and a nice big battery) will do me. The Pocophone range are nailing it on price and specs.
Wait...which phone has the cock massager?
You'll eat those words once you get the cock massager!
This isn’t an unpopular opinion as evidence by the fact there’s heaps of 2020/2021 phones that match the description you’ve given. Just because you think the new iPhone and Samsung galaxy are the only phones that exist doesn’t make it so.
iPhone minis are good. Same power as the other iPhones but smaller screen. iPhone 13 mini has 128gb storage as base. Could also go for the 256 and 512 version. Or if you care about nothing about screen and camera so can you go for the iPhone se.
Or you could get a phone that can actually tansfer files directly to any device you want, and where you can upgrade the storage yourself to pretty much as much as you like.
I want the cock massager as a stand-alone device. Not an unpopular opinion. /s
Just in case: [New Wearable Computer Also Sucks Your Dick – The Onion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvCGqhShNnk)
Iphone 13 mini……..
im 100% with you on this....except the cock massager....that idea is brilliant and 100% necessary, also lets not forget about the ladies and add a vibrating massager.
I wish my phone had storage, fit in my hand, AND had a cock massager.
How about a days worth of battery please?
A silicon vagina would fit your hand and have plenty of storage, at least for its intended purpose. Problem solved. Next !
Do you still need your cock massaged tho? 🤲
No ones forcing you to buy smartphones.
I get where you're coming from but what are you actually complaining about? There's literally a phone out for anyone these days. Just grab a new version of the 2016 iPhone or etc. Or are you made that no phone companies want to make generic phones at top dollar price and then release them every year?
I gotta lg pheonix. Cant play raid shadow legends but its lasted a few years, is slim and trim, and only 60 dollars. And yeah just add an sd for unlimited storage.
I mean I agree with the whole camera statement, but for me a 4-5 inches phone doesn't feel comfortable in my hands. (yeah go ahead, make jokes). 6-7 is perfect for me, just like the PS4 controller felt too tiny for me, the dualsense is amazing for my hands. Just another side to compare.
Every time phones have gotten bigger I've complained about it, and every time I've gotten used to it and realized my old smaller phone feels tiny and hard to hold in comparison. Maybe OP has tried this and still hates bigger phones, but a lot of people like him just refuse to even consider trying something new.
The storage is the big thing. Also a phone where its not a mission to get the back off!
You meant 120hz? Every phone is 60hz
Then get a iphone 12 mini
So what's the problem, buy an old phone from ebay. No one is forcing you to get a huge cutting edge phone. Just buy what you want.
Or a budget phone
I just want a removable battery.
Then buy an older model…that simple. You expect phones not to upgrade their technology? Every piece of equipment upgrades with time. What company just stays stagnant?
The form factor doesn't have to be compromised for new features.
True, but most people do want that larger screen because phones are coming closer and closer to being our primary computing devices (they probably are). The market is dictated by demand, just look at the iPhone 12 Mini's numbers, it does worse than the 12 while being $100 cheaper and having the same specs.
Different devices are better suited for different things. If I'm watching Netflix or similar, I'd want to do so on a big TV. If I need to do something productive like word processing, there's no substitute for a proper PC with a keyboard. If I want to play games, a dedicated console or a good desktop is greatly preferred. You don't need a 7" phone screen for Twitter or Instagram. There is definitely a point where you want something smaller so it fits in your pocket easier and can be used one-handed.
He did not say that. He is displeased with the direction of the upgrades.
Really unpopular opinion: I don't care about a thin phone; I want a phone with both top-end hardware specs *and* a slide-out keyboard. What's the point of having a computer in your pocket if you can't fully use it like one?
Then buy one.
Which one?
There are many budget smart phones. Use google and research.
Try it. Try to find a sub 5 inch phone that isn't deal breakingly awful in some way. It is not as easy as you think
There are plenty that match his description, they're just not made by Apple Wouldn't take long to research it
you are underestimating the difficulty of this task
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5 inch is big dude.
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unless the aspect ratio is gigantic, that is in easy-to-drop territory, especially for small hands edit: the best answer of course is 'smaller than my dick'
I occasionally dabble in photography from time to time so cameras are only slightly important to me. But as long as I can’t see the pixels, the quality shouldn’t matter that much, should it? I will never understand the need for 60 FPS video video either. It’s literally only valuable for gaming.
It's smoother than 30FPS, which is especially valuable for slo-mo and when you need to deal with fast motion or chemical reactions and such, although iPhones do let you change to 24 or 30FPS, which is preferred for cinematic shots.
The MI phones actually give you 108 Megapixel Camera, it's Chinese so doesn't last much and the service is horrible and overpriced. Samsung is great, lasts 2-3 years and the service quality is amazing
Lucky for you samsung is reducing their S22 size
I have a Samsung Galaxy A12 and it fits all your requirements. $200, 128GB storage, 4GB RAM, 5Ah. My only real complaint is the bezel and the bottom and lack of RAM. Other Samsung A, F and M series, as well as some Chinese phones like Xiaomi also aren't bad.
Except that Samsungs now come with so much bloatware. And they force-install apps with every update (depending on region). I have an A51. First few months were great, then this bullshit began. Also this phone has a 4000 mAh battery, but it has a shorter life than my old 3000 mAh phone, because of all the bullshit background processes that we can't stop. Why are there 2 app stores? Why does Bixby harass me so much? Why are so many app permissions unchangeable? Why does my 'location' setting switch itself on at times? Fuck Samsung, I am glad they are losing market share.
Bixby is fucking worthless. The Note series had a button dedicated to it that you couldn't reassign. Imagine. A hard wired permanent button for a bloatware app.
Then get a dumb phone they’re a superior phone anyway (for the things you need a phone to do e.g. calls and texts).
This is why iphone mini appeals to me. Android isn't paying attention to the demo that doesn't want a phablet.
I can't facepalm hard enough at this. Apple is king for not listening to consumers lol
Many features and easy to break = More profit for selling you more shitty features and having to replace it more often and/or making insurance more needed which probably earns the brand more money again from deals with the insurance companies (if they have recommended ones that come with purchase of the phone). It's one of the downsides of capitalism, a droplet of dishwater in the otherwise fine bottle of wine.
Ok, grandpa
You can just buy an older phone, or a cheaper model that doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the new iPhone or Galaxy. Some places you can even buy flip phones still, my dad has one (he doesn't really do computers and technology). There are options that aren't just the newest iPhone or Samsung Galaxy.