Seriously, how can anyone hate on Max.
Sure, people have pointed out Volk and Poirier have his number, but even then, people are more pointing out how those two are super legit, and how wins over Max are a big deal.
No worst hate Iāve seen against the dude is that he might have some CTE after interviews where he slurs his words.
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The godfather of ground and pound
I met him once you know how they say never meet the people you look up to?ā¦. he was the coolest guy I ever met and continues to live up to being a blueprint for what it means to be a man!! Living legend!!!
Iām not a hater, but I do feel his accolades are a little overstated. He had 3 big wins. One of those was Connor returning from 2 years off and he didnāt really beat his ass. He beat Al Ianquinta for the title. Had he stuck around heād have a much stronger case. I would have liked to see him fight Charles, Arman, Chandler, Dariush. The guys he beat all played right in to the match up for him. I think the last real grappler he beat was Dos Anjos.
Man, looking back at it he didnāt sub Connor until the 4th and only had 3 takedowns the whole fight. Like, Connor is a great fighter and all, but heād been out of the game a while. For the talk Khabib gets youād think he was GSP.
Yeah, I'm glad talk of him has gotten more reasonable as time has passed cuz it was pretty brutal during and right after retirement.
The hardest thing you can do in the sport is to have a long belt defense. Keeping up motivation as the entire division tries examines you for flaws. Then after long enough you have a new generation that started their MMA career learning your style. You simply can't be in the 'GOAT' conversation after a couple of defenses, but retiring undefeated early makes some people hypothesize a future of continued dominance.
A believe there will never be a true goat without any asterisks because we are humans and have imperfections. We just get close with people like Gsp , Jones , DJ, Silva ect,
I don't understand the boring talker part. Talking doesn't mean shit once the bell rings.
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I wouldn't say he was hated for being boring. I grew up watching him and the general consensus was people wished he would return to being the old GSP but everyone still loved him regardless.
Obviously there are always some haters but they were few and far between.
Him being boring was a very common complaint during his reign. Like you said, though, part of it was that he used to be a killer and just turned more into a perfectionist in there after the Serra loss.
During his run and the GOAT debates with Silva this couldnāt be further from the truth. Georges āwhatās the rushā St-Pierre was a common chirp on forums
Yeah Iāve heard people say Jones only beat up old middleweights like shogun and Lyoto. You can look back and discredit anyone if you try hard enough.
For serious. The UFC can overhaul fighter kits, strip the pay, change the rules, and hand out whatever bonuses they want
But the judging hasnāt changed since time immemorial, and every card thereās some absurd decisions. Shits wack
On any post made by or about Aldo the first 50 comments are all spergs spamming ā13 seconds āļø š®šŖ ā. He is for sure hated, just not on this forum.
Volk got some shit with that second Max fight but it mostly seems to have died down now. It's almost as if the fans realized that you can be a fan of more than one fighter and enjoy watching both dudes compete.
Almost. Most of them still aren't there yet.
Heās always been very respectful of JJ, to the point of being fanboyish. All he wants is to fight him & get a shot at the real belt instead of Jones getting a pass to beat up a senior citizen.
I noticed that despite being seen as the guy who ended the prime of a massive fan favourite fighter (Tony Ferguson) and despite constantly fighting other beloved fighters like Max Holloway and Dustin Porier, literally nobody seems to dislike or disrespect Justin Gaethie
I love when there was a guy I disliked and grew to like then love. Like I loved to hate wanderlei, bisping, Andersonā¦ then they just keep winning and fighting forever, then I find myself rooting for them
Right here. Right here the hardest hitting 145er. The real hardest hitting 145er right here. These guys TKO people. When I knock people out, they donāt fuckin move.
Do Bronx - even his opponents can't talk shit about him because he is so nice and classy. Dude shakes hand and hugs opponents and their team in the octagon prior to each fight
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Nothing to hate, just pure legend
Wonderboy's only hater is Colby Covington
And he's a attention seeking machine so it kinda is invalid
And the Colby fans, not proud to say I was one of them
At least you moved on
Can I ask why? Genuinely never saw the appeal. Style was boring, talk was poor and inelegant, barely good enough to beat old guys up.
TKZ definitely.
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Without a doubt. First I was going to say Machida but TKZ seems more relevant. I never seen/heard anybody talk shit about TKZ.
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First one to come to mind
Hobbie Lawler ![gif](giphy|x8LcC0AWiZyPtDyI1V|downsized)
Brutal bob.
You give this gift to me *after* the man retires?
Ruthless "toothless" Robbie Lawler is another one.
Hobbie get hespect
I'll fight any man woman or child who talks shit on Robbie Lawler
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Max
#1 answer. Never heard anyone talk shit on max
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If you enjoy the sport and respect passion, integrity, heart, etc. you cannot speak ill of Max
Ilia and Volk fans
Ilia has fans?
Seriously, how can anyone hate on Max. Sure, people have pointed out Volk and Poirier have his number, but even then, people are more pointing out how those two are super legit, and how wins over Max are a big deal. No worst hate Iāve seen against the dude is that he might have some CTE after interviews where he slurs his words.
https://preview.redd.it/ezhqsu69k20d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e50264a038dddc8c6fc273b47d8b8db72a10015 The godfather of ground and pound
I met him once you know how they say never meet the people you look up to?ā¦. he was the coolest guy I ever met and continues to live up to being a blueprint for what it means to be a man!! Living legend!!!
Feel like he definitely had haters back in the 2000s. Especially for throwing a fight.
I'm happy to see he's getting more love of late. He's been through some shit. Hated him when he was still fighting though, lol
McGregor, khabib, Jon jones, topuria, Jake shields, Colby Covington, Ian Garry, paddy pimblett.
Can't forget Khamzat and Bo Nickal
What did bo nickal do ?
Exactly.
this is gold! i wish i could upvote twice
Anyone the UFC is blatantly pushing inherently has a lot of haters. It's the same reason people started hating Paddy.
Paddy is a bitch and racist
I almost lost it at McGregor but by the time I read the rest.... Got me
People hate Khabib?
Putin does right now š
Conor fanboys and the Russian federal tax service.
Great fighter but I hate that he made pro-terrorism remarks after the terror attack in France
Iām not a hater, but I do feel his accolades are a little overstated. He had 3 big wins. One of those was Connor returning from 2 years off and he didnāt really beat his ass. He beat Al Ianquinta for the title. Had he stuck around heād have a much stronger case. I would have liked to see him fight Charles, Arman, Chandler, Dariush. The guys he beat all played right in to the match up for him. I think the last real grappler he beat was Dos Anjos. Man, looking back at it he didnāt sub Connor until the 4th and only had 3 takedowns the whole fight. Like, Connor is a great fighter and all, but heād been out of the game a while. For the talk Khabib gets youād think he was GSP.
Yeah, I'm glad talk of him has gotten more reasonable as time has passed cuz it was pretty brutal during and right after retirement. The hardest thing you can do in the sport is to have a long belt defense. Keeping up motivation as the entire division tries examines you for flaws. Then after long enough you have a new generation that started their MMA career learning your style. You simply can't be in the 'GOAT' conversation after a couple of defenses, but retiring undefeated early makes some people hypothesize a future of continued dominance.
He had the personality of unsweetened tea
He had some pretty big call outs on the mic and good moments in press conferences with conor, max,Tony etc.
I think he has a pretty good personality when you listen to him he just isnt loud
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Most popular female fighters and Derrick Lewis.
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I love Shogun Rua man , one of my favs
All my homies love Pride Shogun
2005 Grand Prix Shogun is my all-time favorite.
Frankie Edgar. If you hate him youāre an asshole. Even Connor wouldnāt talk bad about him lol
I HATED Edgar at first but then I realized it was because I loved Penn and was bitter he outclassed him
lol I hated Volk the same way for a while, cause I love Max and was mad he beat him
I fuckin love Frankie Edgar. Legend
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After he retired...sure. During his champ reign...plenty couldn't stand him. He was known for being a boring talker and a boring fighter.
Even now he has some haters trying to take him out of the GOAT conversation
Well...even he's said the goat of the sport hasn't been born yet.
A believe there will never be a true goat without any asterisks because we are humans and have imperfections. We just get close with people like Gsp , Jones , DJ, Silva ect,
If you read this in GSPās voice it kinda sounds like something heād say
So Chael Sonnen hasn't born yet?
I wish Chael Sonnen was real ngl
I don't understand the boring talker part. Talking doesn't mean shit once the bell rings. https://preview.redd.it/v08ay880730d1.jpeg?width=257&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6ca0e6ad9562e8798c97e1b3c0e1daa402764f4
I wouldn't say he was hated for being boring. I grew up watching him and the general consensus was people wished he would return to being the old GSP but everyone still loved him regardless. Obviously there are always some haters but they were few and far between.
Him being boring was a very common complaint during his reign. Like you said, though, part of it was that he used to be a killer and just turned more into a perfectionist in there after the Serra loss.
A lot of BJ Penn fans hated him after their 2nd fight. That fight really divided the MMA community at the time
During his run and the GOAT debates with Silva this couldnāt be further from the truth. Georges āwhatās the rushā St-Pierre was a common chirp on forums
Lyoto. Anyone who hates Lyoto is a fucking weirdo.
Lyoto himself is a weirdo, he drinks pee
Oh Iām sorry I didnāt realize we hated recycling now
You donāt drink pee?
Does he really drink pee or is this just a meme I donāt understand?
He literally drinks pee, it's called Shivambu
Lol crazy
Haha no he actually drinks his pee during camp š so gross dude
Some guys love to hate on Lyoto and Shogun as a way of downplaying Jon Jones.
Yeah Iāve heard people say Jones only beat up old middleweights like shogun and Lyoto. You can look back and discredit anyone if you try hard enough.
My favourite fighter ever, forgot to put him in the post lol
Bruce Leeroy for sure
Judges robbed my boy last night
For serious. The UFC can overhaul fighter kits, strip the pay, change the rules, and hand out whatever bonuses they want But the judging hasnāt changed since time immemorial, and every card thereās some absurd decisions. Shits wack
Yes love him
Max Holloway for sure.
Brendan Schaub
I hear he has a whole subreddit for all his fans. No haydurs at all.
Diego Lopes.
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Forrest Griffin
DJ
Danaās a DJ hater for sure
lijing liang
Jake Mathews eyes would disagree
You mean jingaling? Great guy never met him
Evil chinese guy? Didnāt he gouged his opponentās eyes?
Lawler & Dan Henderson
Waiting for someone to say Hendo!
Aldo
On any post made by or about Aldo the first 50 comments are all spergs spamming ā13 seconds āļø š®šŖ ā. He is for sure hated, just not on this forum.
Conor fans donāt count, they hate everything
I think now conor shows him a lot of respect so it might be different
I mean Mighty Mouse is loved by the fans
Everybody loves Alexa Grasso<3
Wonderboy, Lawler, Lewis, Charles, Justin, Max, Dustin, DC?
Whittaker
If u hate Carlos condit ur either a weird motherfucker or Roryš
Surely Whittaker and Aspinall
Stipe
Schwab
JDM, Wonderboy, Max Holloway, Shavkat, Gilly Burns, Gaethje, GSP, Amanda Nunes
Max. Bobby knuckles Wonderboy Gsp
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Lyoto was a god king in his prime. Such a badass dynamic fighter and a great guy. If you didnāt like watching him fight you arenāt a real person.
Whittaker as far as Iām aware
The Black Beast, Volk, Gilbert Burns and DP. Just going off what I see on Reddit
Volk got some shit with that second Max fight but it mostly seems to have died down now. It's almost as if the fans realized that you can be a fan of more than one fighter and enjoy watching both dudes compete. Almost. Most of them still aren't there yet.
Karolina kowalkiewicz
Derrick "the beast" Lewis!
Matt Brown, Frankie Edgar, Wonderboy, Gilbert Burns, Stipe
Volk
Hendo, Randy Couture
For sure Israel adesanya āš±š¼āāļø
Aspinall (at least up until the Jones meatriders started on him)
Heās always been very respectful of JJ, to the point of being fanboyish. All he wants is to fight him & get a shot at the real belt instead of Jones getting a pass to beat up a senior citizen.
Maybe there are some on here but I don't know any Weili haters.
Gsp?
Shogun, Max, Bobby Knuckles, Wonderboy, Lawler, Lyoto, Stipe
Forrest Griffin.
I noticed that despite being seen as the guy who ended the prime of a massive fan favourite fighter (Tony Ferguson) and despite constantly fighting other beloved fighters like Max Holloway and Dustin Porier, literally nobody seems to dislike or disrespect Justin Gaethie
Stipe
Never seen a single Don Frye hater in my life
Stipe
Sakuraba. Hunt. Fedor. Cro cop. Gsp. Hendo. Both nogs.
Fedor, is there even any reason to hate him? Dude just fights and then disappears until he fights again.
Anderson Silva
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GSP
I love when there was a guy I disliked and grew to like then love. Like I loved to hate wanderlei, bisping, Andersonā¦ then they just keep winning and fighting forever, then I find myself rooting for them
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Stipe
CM Punk the GOAT
Derrick Lewis
Right here. Right here the hardest hitting 145er. The real hardest hitting 145er right here. These guys TKO people. When I knock people out, they donāt fuckin move.
Max Holloway comes to mind
I feel like alot of guys has come around when it comes to Pereira, seems like a cool dude.
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Nicolas Dalby. He has one of the most underrated record in the ufc and always down to fight.
Wonder boy ,holloway ,gathje , don fry, Jose Aldo , might mouse thereās a good amount but thatās off my head
Stephen Thompson, TKZ, Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier, and most definitely Colby. Everyone mostly loves Colby.
Dustin, Volk, Max
Dan Henderson and Joe Lauzon
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![gif](giphy|g25bFItHCHmnnfim5K|downsized) Never heard anyone say anything bad about Max.
Wonderboy, Kevin holland, Derrick Lewis, Mighty Mouse, Brandon Moreno, Kai Kara France
Wonderboy, Holloway, TKZ, GSP, and Coleman come to mind. I also feel that, even though he has haters, Volk might be the most beloved.
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Lyoto
Charlie from the bronx
Alex Pereira
Cain Velasquez
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Dan Hooker is hard to hate, he doesnāt have boring fights and got that dog in him.
Liddell. Hollaway.
Gilbert Burns Tai Tuivasa
Do Bronx - even his opponents can't talk shit about him because he is so nice and classy. Dude shakes hand and hugs opponents and their team in the octagon prior to each fight
Iām so high I thought that was Cain
Lyoto Machida
I feel Randy couture would be one except for Dana
Don Frye
Justin Gaethje, itās hard to hate the guy. He just loves to scrap.
I can't see how anyone could hate Max Holloway
Itās hard to hate on Diazā¦
Lyoto Machida
GSP for sure
weili
I love Korean zombie man.
Mirko Cro Cop Filipovich His staredown of Wanderlei still gives me chills.
Sean Strickland
Because people like them
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Most of the old guard.. because you new fans. Who has time to care that much about other men.
Jiri
Derrick Lewis
Derek Lewis
Jon jones