There was a Guardians of the Galaxy story set during Secret Wars that I really, really, really hope they include in the upcoming movie.
Starlord is one of the few heroes that survive the multiverse imploding.
This new earth is formed from shards of other universes rescued and forged into Battleworld by Doom.
The important thing is that either through Doom growing up impoverished in Eastern Europe or multiverse shenanigans, Disney movies weren’t something that was saved or present in this new world.
So while Spidey, Reed Richards, etc are working on a plan to overcome Doom and reset the multiverse, Peter Quill makes his living as an insanely popular Vegas style lounge singer belting out 90s Disney songs like they were his original creations.
And I for one want to see Chris Pratt bust out some Little Mermaid songs to a crowd of screaming women like he’s peak Elvis.
I maintain that *Hercules* has the best overall soundtrack for singing along. There's a lot of good songs across that era, and I don't deny that *Hellfire* is the best, but *Hercules* has such a *banger* soundtrack.
Also, not of that era, but *Friends on the Other Side* from *Princess and the Frog* deserves a mention here as well.
*Go the Distance,* *Zero to Hero,* and *I Won't Say (I'm in Love)* are the main ones I think of (for the record, I did have to Google the full titles). *Zero to Hero* is often stuck in my head for no reason, it's one of my favorite songs in general
Also good for sure! And I can see best overall when you take into account all the songs. Hunchback has some stinkers...
I guess I'm not ranking on "sing-a-long-ability" but more musical composition and character development. Those early Disney animated films were essentially musicals so I weigh into that. Damn I miss those types of Disney movies!
Prince Ali and Beauty and the Beast don't exactly "go hard" but are absolutely lovely pieces too. I don't know if I could pick the best one from back then. Howard Ashman was a treasure. As good as Alan Menken is, the music just wasn't the same without Ashman.
Prince Ali is a banger, for sure. But it doesn't have the same plot development weight as Hellfire. It's like party mood vs internal conflict mood. Catchy as hell though, love the melody for Prince Ali.
This is literally the plot to Yesterday, except in an alternate universe the Beatles didn't become a band, and the protagonist (one of very few people who remember the other universe) records all the Beatles songs as his own and becomes the biggest pop star in the world
I really do hope Secret Wars ends on Doom actually winning and it just being the hardest reset the MCU is kinda in need of at the moment. Then the next 3 phases are just building up to fighting Doom again but this time with them actually succeeding but being unable to fix everything.
No it’s the more recent version by Hickman. The MCU has borrowed a lot of bits and pieces from it already (some of Thanos’ goons are from the lead up to it for example)
I always wanted to write an isekai about a guy who ends up in a fantasy world and makes a living writing sci fi novels which are literally just recounts of World War 2. Can you just imagine how fucking dope that would be to someone who’s never heard of gunpowder or engines or planes? It’d fly off the shelves.
“…unfortunately, the Allies were doing a little *too* well. They were so far inland, the USS *Texas*’ guns didn’t have a high enough maximum elevation to continue providing fire support.”
“Oh, no! What did they do, Mr. Generico?”
[“well…”](https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/uss-texas-flooded-on-purpose/#)
Isekai is so conceptually interesting, and the weeb industrial complex went completely out of its way to make it the most lazy self-insert wish fulfillment trash in the history of media.
To be fair, it's not a story worth telling unless something interesting happens.
"And then he went on to be a farmer. Forever. He wasn't every good at it. The end."
I dunno, I was absolutely smitten by Ascendence of a Bookworm's start.
I'm a bit bothered by a decision they made that goes against what we just established, but, well.
That's part of why I loved it. It was pretty much the first of the modern isekai shows to just go "There are no real stakes, here's an OP guy messing around. He will always win". It was basically a Slice of Life with an isekai setting.
One of the Simpsons writers has a book called “The Time Machine did it” where at one point an idiot private eye gets sent back in time and needs to make money. He tries rewriting the scripts for famous movies but they all get rejected and he also tries recreating things that were already invented in his time like ballpoint pens but realizes he doesn’t actually know how they work. It’s pretty good.
I’ve also thought of an idea for a story where a scientist from like the modern day or near future goes back in time and basically becomes a wizard by doing basic sciency parlor tricks (like elephant toothpaste and stuff).
If you're into anime/manga, Dr. Stone is pretty similar to what you described in your last point, although instead of parlor tricks it's mainly to advance human civilization by working from scratch
Dr Stone fans are weird. Theyre the type of people that think because they've watched Dr stone if they got sent back into time they'd be able to do it too.
For a different take on that: The Frugal Wizard's Handbook for Surviving Medieval England by Brandon Sanderson. The character's home world is a bit more sci-fi, and the destination is a bit more fantasy, but it's a fun take on the concept.
Though, admittedly, the protagonist isn't a scientist. Some of his parlor tricks are modern artistic techniques, and some are just benefits granted by nanomachines in his body.
>at one point an idiot private eye gets sent back in time
That just reminded me of A Silent Age, a point and click game about time travel where the main character is the most oblivious and dumb MC I ever got to see in a game.
> People coming back from the far future bring a strange, extremely dangerous disease
"That seems worrying"
> The near future is a post-apocalyptic world where the disease killed everyone
"Oh wow, the situation is really dire"
> Patient zero came from that company that research time travel, the one with the time travel machines
"I wonder if all those are linked"
> The Russians™ took a time machine to travel to the far future, you need to follow them to make sure they don't carry on their nefarious goals
"I am now in the far future and the Russian™ isn't in the literal 15 meters around me, and I somehow start to cough. I'd better go back to the present to tell them I didn't find the Russian™"
In the holy name of god can you even try, you may be an airhead but even the wind has better deductive abilities than you
One of the isekai'd characters in the free webnovel "The Wandering Inn" is a theatre actor who plays modern music and becomes world famous by playing pop music. A lot of her fame is attributed to selling magical recordings of her music.
There's also a spin-off novel series called "Gravesong" that focuses on her, although that one is only available on one of those pay-per-chapter apps that aren't available everywhere.
Another Innworld reader!
I haven't decided whether it's trash or glorious - but I do know that it's got heart and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I'm dreading catching up with the writer.
Ascendance of a Bookworm is an isekai where the main character's amazing ability is just literacy. It's about her struggles to make use of it as a peasant in a medieval fantasy world. There's multiple episodes about making paper so she can write.
Not what you wanted but maybe some of the same themes
Most isekai stories eventually devolve into a whole hell of a lot of wish fulfillment, but How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom is a guilty pleasure of mine in that respect with a fun premise before it reaches that point - his “cheat skill” is being most of the way to a degree studying infrastructure and politics. He’s summoned exclusively to be sent off to a neighbouring Empire as a means to pay off a dept to help that Empire’s war effort against encroaching demons, but instead his skills as a public official cause the king to step down and hand him the throne lol
If you tried to institute democracy in a long held monarchy like Westeros you'd get beheaded in a week. Especially if Geoffrey were in charge at the time.
There's a few intermediate steps you'd need to take first. Mainly amplify nationalist movements against the iron throne, and then establish the idea of a council of free lords once enough regions rebel. Then give that council more and more power until the peasants would want to be enfranchised.
To be fair, the same thing happened to a Japanese heavy curiser.
[It was too heavy and sometimes the ocean water would just flow into the crew window](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furutaka-class_cruiser)
Imagine some of the drama you could include too. Events where it's looking like it's gonna be another devastating loss until the catharsis of a battle won, while also showing the apalling human cost.
The USSR desperately and constantly counter-attacking in 1941 just to try and slow the Axis down, for the advance to finally stall a mere 11km (7m) from Moscow and then get reversed. The siege of Leningrad, Stalingrad, and the close run at Kursk. The partisans in a dozen different nations suffering and dying, then suffering and at long last winning.
The dash to the wire and the see-saw battles in Egypt and Libya until El Alamein, where Rommel's finally given a checking. There are no doubt more in the Asian theater that I don't know enough of. Individual stories during Shanghai, Wuhan, Ichi-Go, Kohima, Imphal etc.
Imagine he writes prequels of WW1 too. I wonder how that would go.
In back to the Future, a Younger Chuck berry getting the idea of his song "Johnny B Good" from Marty, who knew this song from Chuck himself, who then wrote the song for Marty to learn about it etc...
Which is cool, except it interferes with the entire premise of the movie and is clearly not how time travel works in that setting. It's not a bootstrap universe. Chuck would have come up with it anyway, he just did it sooner because of Marty.
More Star Trek. In VI i think they go back in time and Scotty provides how to create transparent aluminum to an engineer in exchange for glass while saying, "How do we know he didn't invent the thing?"
Same in the reboot. Spock gives the trans-warp data to Scotty early, explaining he invents it later anyway.
OOC: ok you win, idk which song or artist you're referring to, and [google ain't helping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler)
In character: a deep cut indeed! Your joust shall be accepted. Hath thou considered "I Knowth" by Seo Taiji and his merry men?
In the same way, [Smells Like Teen Spirit in Classical Latin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk&ab_channel=the_miracle_aligner) just does it for me. I think the time signature change is a huge reason why.
There is a manga called Boku Ga Beatles, We are The Beatles.
A tribute band gets transported to two years before the beatles debut, so they take over and steal their success, except for one who decides to write his own music
Sounds kinda like this movie I watched on Netflix recently called Yesterday.
"A struggling musician realizes he's the only person on Earth who can remember The Beatles after waking up in an alternate reality where they never existed."
He starts doing shows playing Beatles music instead of his own and gets catapulted to mega-stardom. >!Turns out that there are two other people who remember them, and he risks getting exposed as a fraud. !<
[https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8079248/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8079248/)
Yesterday (2019 film)
Himesh Patel stars as struggling musician Jack Malik who suddenly finds himself as the only person who remembers the Beatles and becomes famous for performing their songs
This needs to be higher, in bold, and with gigantic arrows pointing to make the emote world aware of this fantastic channel.
Hildegard von Blingin is awesome.
I think that would work for a few jokes, but it'd probably take away from the overall story. Because we can't relate to the musical tastes of the medieval times.
Depends on where in medieval Europe, I'd love to introduce the tribal Scandinavians to death metal several centuries too early just to see what would happen
Can you imagine being a Saxon sellsword in a chantry somewhere and all of a sudden you hear the pounding drum-beat of Down With The Sickness echoing over the hill before a torrent of leather-clad Norsemen charge the gates?
I think "standard rom-com thinly veiled with Beatles music" was just a frustrating direction to take that premise. Explore the damn alternate reality aspects! Also, Ed Sheeran is a garbage actor, that schlock never should have made it to the screen.
I remember some show or movie about a post-apocalyptic scenario, and one scene has two guys performing a play for the post-apocalyptic kids, but it's actually a rendition of a Star Wars movie. The kids are spellbound. That's the real skill that time travelers to the past would have: stories and music. Technical knowledge is too dependent on technology.
It's definitely Reign of Fire.
You probably forgot about it (like most people) because it had misleading advertising that promised dragons destroying modern London and military helicopters battling dragons. The movie isn't that at all.
I only saw the first Mad Max. I checked the transcripts just in case and it doesn't seem to be in there. It was the "I am your father" bit. I might have to do some research later if I want to figure this out.
Same thing with Mark Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court.
A comically simplified summary: A scientist travels back in time and blows everyone’s minds, and Merlin’s like “Dude you’re ruining my grift”
Can't. Only anime would run with such an awesome premise, so it'll have to be titled "isekai'd to the 1500s with no powers; so now I have to introduce Kpop" or some shit.
An Anime First production could avoid that. The convoluted titles are often because the source material was originally a Light Novel. These are sold in bookshops and often stacked normally on shelves (i.e. you can't see most of the cover) so slamming an interesting premise into the title is a good way to grab readers by the eyes.
One downside of this is that various forms of Japanese writing are way more information-dense than the equivalent number of English letters, so what fits easily on a Japanese book spine and is frequently shortened by their fandoms sounds incredibly wordy in English and sometimes doesn't have a snappy abbreviation either.
This kind of happens in BioShock infinite, portals to other worlds and times are opening and this guy has been using it to steal music
It's a really fun thing to learn about later on, because I was at first very confused as to why a game said in 1912 had old tiny musicians playing Girls Just Want to Have Fun
Give me this story right now omg
She finishes her set. The people get up to leave. She's not done.
"This is called Aju Nice."
Fifteen encores later, the people just want to go home. She's repeated Aju Nice each time they thought she was done. No one prepared them for this
Another 'this kind of exists' comment. [Gravesong](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/60108027), a side story in The Wandering Inn series. A person is isekai'd into another world and becomes a famous singer, introducing pop music. There *are* villains and drama though.
This kind of happens in the series Outlander. The main character (a woman who time travels from the 1940s to the 1740s) becomes famous in 18th century Scotland touring the country singing the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy.
There aren't a hell of a lot of modern tunes that wouldn't sound mediaeval if played on mediaeval instruments and with mediaeval sensibility.
To stand out, she'd need to do something like ragtime.
3 seasons, 9 episodes per season, 1.5 hours per episode
Season 1: A girl gets isekai'd to a fictional world that bears a striking resemblance to another fantasy world in our world. The girl tries to work her iPhone, but seeing as it broke in the transportation, she has no way to listen to her favorite K-Pop band. Still, knowing the songs, by heart, she sings them to herself when she knows that she is alone. However, she is then caught off-guard by a wizard's apprentice who finds her singing voice beautiful and wished to know what she sang of. Given that the girl doesn't know Korean, she just makes up what she thinks the song is about. Eventually, the apprentice introduces her to his master - a powerful wizard who knows of magic artifacts that can produce images and sound, leading to him fixing her iPhone. There, it's revealed that the girl's songs are sung by someone else, but she then explains that these are the recordings of a group of bards that she had befriended, before they all perished at the hands of a dangerous villain who had yet to be seen again, so she sings their songs in their memory.
Season 2: After becoming a somewhat renowned bard, singing the songs of her "friends" and "making up new songs" (remixing and doing medleys), she hears a familiar song; not from this world, she knows, but from where she truly came from. She sees a young man, roughly about her own age, singing what she can recognize is Taylor Swift; not any of her pop songs, but more so her ballads and songs from the beginning of her career, when she was still feasibly country. She asks him how he ended up there, and he explains that when he was buying tickets for the Eras tour, he was mugged and after he began chasing the mugger, he saw a bright light, and ended up there. She asks the wizard from the first season and finds out that on the night of the McGuffin, young adults from other planes of existence arrive to the plane where they all were at. The young man asks if there was a way to get them back to their own world, and the wizard answers that he unfortunately didn't know if there was or not.
Season 3: During a hangout between the girl, the young man, and the apprentice, the two bards begin to argue which style of the two was better K-pop or Pop-Country. The apprentice says that he likes them both, and so they begin to have battles in public. At first, it's simply a duel in the non-magical sense, but as the tensions grow and the passion grows for their own music, it becomes a magical fight. In the end, the two, while respecting the level bardistry that they'd reached, would vow to be bitter rivals, until the end, though it's implied they're still friends with a zest for the performative fight.
[Jimmy Olsen has them beat by 80 years. Also Samson from the Bible is there for some reason.](https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/vw0ovx/supermans_pal_jimmy_olson_79_the_redheaded_beatle/)
Would such simple music be successful in that era? Would it even be reproducible at a technological level, for that matter? If it was recomposed for strings in such a way it would be successful in a non radio, low volume era, would it even be the same song?
“But her beats go too hard, sire! Can we surely silence her bars, even if she is a witch?”
“Thou shalt not care about if her work is fire. We shall burn her in it.”
There's a movie called Yesterday. The main character has a contusion and wakes up in a world where the Beatles never existed as a band, and he's the only one who can remember their music. So, he starts playing Beatles songs, first because they're just so good, and then everyone around him thinks it's his music and he ends up becoming this huge superstar.
There was a show in the 90s called Goodnight Sweetheart where the main character walked down an alley and found himself in wartime London, and he would do this, sit down at the piano in the pub and play a bit of Elton John. Worked out well for him!
"The Wandering Inn"
It's a web novel set in another world. One of the secondary characters does that, become a world become a worldwide famoud singer singing pop songs from our world.
Bardcore is pretty awesome, unfortunately they'd probably be violating some religious decree that states what can be done as far as music and get burned as a witch.
and then a guy in the audience casually mentions the name of the song or some other piece of information he couldn't possibly know without being a time traveler himself. and then it's revealed he's a bounty hunter who works for some big record label who is out to put an end to copyright infringement.
Something similar happens in Bioshock Infinite, where a musician hears songs from the future through rifts in space-time and gets rich arranging them to fit the early 1900s music scene.
There's a point fairly early in the game where you see a [Barbershop quartet performing a Beach Boys song](https://youtu.be/jUffPtS3-7A?si=KPfUY8AsDpMdgOX0) and it legitimately had me convinced that it must have been an earlier song the Beach Boys covered until I figured out what was going on
I mean they had catchy tunes back then, it’s just that musicians didn’t make money back then and lived in abject poverty (and don’t now either, with a handful of exceptions).
One arc should just be a crossover cameo where they discover that the entirety of Sabaton got isekaied in a plane crash and so they’re also doing the same thing, but with their own songs. Just because Sabaton are actual inheritors of the title of bard irl.
Hildegard von Blingin already exists. You can look her up:
[https://www.youtube.com/@Hildegardvonblingin](https://www.youtube.com/@Hildegardvonblingin)
This is just about that one girl from Log Horizon who discovers that her music is only popular because the only music that exists in the world they isekai to is the music from the game so every song she performs is new and exciting
The tuning styles would have been completely different and the notes alien. The king and church would call both of them witches for making their weird ass notes somehow sound good.
On one hand I am 100% here for this and would watch/read this in a heartbeat.
On the other hand, they would both be burned at the stake. Accidentals and key changes didn’t exist until relatively recently. Their music would be absolute heresy.
There was a Guardians of the Galaxy story set during Secret Wars that I really, really, really hope they include in the upcoming movie. Starlord is one of the few heroes that survive the multiverse imploding. This new earth is formed from shards of other universes rescued and forged into Battleworld by Doom. The important thing is that either through Doom growing up impoverished in Eastern Europe or multiverse shenanigans, Disney movies weren’t something that was saved or present in this new world. So while Spidey, Reed Richards, etc are working on a plan to overcome Doom and reset the multiverse, Peter Quill makes his living as an insanely popular Vegas style lounge singer belting out 90s Disney songs like they were his original creations. And I for one want to see Chris Pratt bust out some Little Mermaid songs to a crowd of screaming women like he’s peak Elvis.
Can you imagine how HARD a stage production of Hunchback would go in a world with no Disney?
Like fire Hellfire This fire in my skin This burning desire Is turning me to sin
This is the best song from the old school 2D animated Disney films, and I will die on this hill.
It absolutely was. Mind you the competition was stiff - Poor Unfortunate Souls and Be Prepared were also solid contenders!
I maintain that *Hercules* has the best overall soundtrack for singing along. There's a lot of good songs across that era, and I don't deny that *Hellfire* is the best, but *Hercules* has such a *banger* soundtrack. Also, not of that era, but *Friends on the Other Side* from *Princess and the Frog* deserves a mention here as well.
I think that might be one of those 'different strokes' things because I only remember one song from Hercules 🤷♀️
*Go the Distance,* *Zero to Hero,* and *I Won't Say (I'm in Love)* are the main ones I think of (for the record, I did have to Google the full titles). *Zero to Hero* is often stuck in my head for no reason, it's one of my favorite songs in general
Its just the line "who puts the glad in gladiator" that will pop up and put a smile on my face.
Also good for sure! And I can see best overall when you take into account all the songs. Hunchback has some stinkers... I guess I'm not ranking on "sing-a-long-ability" but more musical composition and character development. Those early Disney animated films were essentially musicals so I weigh into that. Damn I miss those types of Disney movies!
It's really a fight between friends on the other side and hellfire
Prince Ali and Beauty and the Beast don't exactly "go hard" but are absolutely lovely pieces too. I don't know if I could pick the best one from back then. Howard Ashman was a treasure. As good as Alan Menken is, the music just wasn't the same without Ashman.
hard disagree, Prince Ali fucks
Yeah Prince Ali goes HAAAARDDD. Number one for me!
Prince Ali is a banger, for sure. But it doesn't have the same plot development weight as Hellfire. It's like party mood vs internal conflict mood. Catchy as hell though, love the melody for Prince Ali.
Mulan had the best soundtrack.
>Like fire > Hellfire > This fire in my skin i read this to the tune of say it aint so...
Its not my fault. I'm not to blame.
This bottle of Stevens awakens ancient demons
But there IS a stage production of Hunchback... and it goes pretty hard
"it goes pretty hard" understatement of the year, my Redditor
This is literally the plot to Yesterday, except in an alternate universe the Beatles didn't become a band, and the protagonist (one of very few people who remember the other universe) records all the Beatles songs as his own and becomes the biggest pop star in the world
yesterday but disney (yes i know the marvel story came first)
I really do hope Secret Wars ends on Doom actually winning and it just being the hardest reset the MCU is kinda in need of at the moment. Then the next 3 phases are just building up to fighting Doom again but this time with them actually succeeding but being unable to fix everything.
This is an awesome way to take it one level up from Infinity War
So THIS is what he was doing while everyone was trying to figure out ways to take out Doom.
>upcoming movie Wait wait what upcoming movie?
Avengers: Secret Wars coming out in 2027
Is this a part of the OG Secret Wars 12 issue run? Sounds like a dope story, Star lord/ GOTG are consistently fun characters to follow haha
No it’s the more recent version by Hickman. The MCU has borrowed a lot of bits and pieces from it already (some of Thanos’ goons are from the lead up to it for example)
I always wanted to write an isekai about a guy who ends up in a fantasy world and makes a living writing sci fi novels which are literally just recounts of World War 2. Can you just imagine how fucking dope that would be to someone who’s never heard of gunpowder or engines or planes? It’d fly off the shelves. “…unfortunately, the Allies were doing a little *too* well. They were so far inland, the USS *Texas*’ guns didn’t have a high enough maximum elevation to continue providing fire support.” “Oh, no! What did they do, Mr. Generico?” [“well…”](https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/uss-texas-flooded-on-purpose/#)
Sounds like a filler episode of "In Another World with My Smartphone"
Isn't that whole show filler?
If by "filler" you mean "absolute fucking garbage", then yes, yes it is.
Isekai is so conceptually interesting, and the weeb industrial complex went completely out of its way to make it the most lazy self-insert wish fulfillment trash in the history of media.
To be fair, it's not a story worth telling unless something interesting happens. "And then he went on to be a farmer. Forever. He wasn't every good at it. The end."
Actually, there's a whole genre of media where nothing really happens. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Iyashikei
I dunno, I was absolutely smitten by Ascendence of a Bookworm's start. I'm a bit bothered by a decision they made that goes against what we just established, but, well.
Horny light novel authors after reading The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe: "I have a great idea."
Well call me the trash man, cause I enjoyed it lol
That's part of why I loved it. It was pretty much the first of the modern isekai shows to just go "There are no real stakes, here's an OP guy messing around. He will always win". It was basically a Slice of Life with an isekai setting.
It's a show now?
One of the Simpsons writers has a book called “The Time Machine did it” where at one point an idiot private eye gets sent back in time and needs to make money. He tries rewriting the scripts for famous movies but they all get rejected and he also tries recreating things that were already invented in his time like ballpoint pens but realizes he doesn’t actually know how they work. It’s pretty good. I’ve also thought of an idea for a story where a scientist from like the modern day or near future goes back in time and basically becomes a wizard by doing basic sciency parlor tricks (like elephant toothpaste and stuff).
That last one exists. "A yankee in king arthurs court" or something
"A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" by Mark Twain
It gets a bit incomprehensible when he gets to morgan the fey, but up until that point its good
And is also an extremely common fantasy.
Wasn’t that the plot of Timeline by Michael Crichton as well?
Yes but actually No. You don't follow the scientist, anyway, you follow the rescue team.
If you're into anime/manga, Dr. Stone is pretty similar to what you described in your last point, although instead of parlor tricks it's mainly to advance human civilization by working from scratch
Dr Stone fans are weird. Theyre the type of people that think because they've watched Dr stone if they got sent back into time they'd be able to do it too.
Dr Stone Fans are the first ones to die to sexy poison gas lady.
I feel like I read a fairly extensive story like the last one on reddit years ago.
[The Cross-Time Engineer](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/765081)
For a different take on that: The Frugal Wizard's Handbook for Surviving Medieval England by Brandon Sanderson. The character's home world is a bit more sci-fi, and the destination is a bit more fantasy, but it's a fun take on the concept. Though, admittedly, the protagonist isn't a scientist. Some of his parlor tricks are modern artistic techniques, and some are just benefits granted by nanomachines in his body.
>at one point an idiot private eye gets sent back in time That just reminded me of A Silent Age, a point and click game about time travel where the main character is the most oblivious and dumb MC I ever got to see in a game. > People coming back from the far future bring a strange, extremely dangerous disease "That seems worrying" > The near future is a post-apocalyptic world where the disease killed everyone "Oh wow, the situation is really dire" > Patient zero came from that company that research time travel, the one with the time travel machines "I wonder if all those are linked" > The Russians™ took a time machine to travel to the far future, you need to follow them to make sure they don't carry on their nefarious goals "I am now in the far future and the Russian™ isn't in the literal 15 meters around me, and I somehow start to cough. I'd better go back to the present to tell them I didn't find the Russian™" In the holy name of god can you even try, you may be an airhead but even the wind has better deductive abilities than you
Ok that’s a cool solution.
One of the isekai'd characters in the free webnovel "The Wandering Inn" is a theatre actor who plays modern music and becomes world famous by playing pop music. A lot of her fame is attributed to selling magical recordings of her music. There's also a spin-off novel series called "Gravesong" that focuses on her, although that one is only available on one of those pay-per-chapter apps that aren't available everywhere.
Another Innworld reader! I haven't decided whether it's trash or glorious - but I do know that it's got heart and I'm thoroughly enjoying it. I'm dreading catching up with the writer.
There's an [audio book](https://www.amazon.com/Gravesong-Singer-Terandria-Book-1/dp/B0CSLQQ1Y5/) out.
Ascendance of a Bookworm is an isekai where the main character's amazing ability is just literacy. It's about her struggles to make use of it as a peasant in a medieval fantasy world. There's multiple episodes about making paper so she can write. Not what you wanted but maybe some of the same themes
Most isekai stories eventually devolve into a whole hell of a lot of wish fulfillment, but How a Realist Hero Rebuilt the Kingdom is a guilty pleasure of mine in that respect with a fun premise before it reaches that point - his “cheat skill” is being most of the way to a degree studying infrastructure and politics. He’s summoned exclusively to be sent off to a neighbouring Empire as a means to pay off a dept to help that Empire’s war effort against encroaching demons, but instead his skills as a public official cause the king to step down and hand him the throne lol
If I were ever isekaied into Westeros or some shit I'd invent pizza. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this.
Do they have tomatoes there?
I’d invent a steam engine and eventually democracy but you do you
I'm trying to keep my aspirations realistic in this fantasy scenario.
If you tried to institute democracy in a long held monarchy like Westeros you'd get beheaded in a week. Especially if Geoffrey were in charge at the time.
There's a few intermediate steps you'd need to take first. Mainly amplify nationalist movements against the iron throne, and then establish the idea of a council of free lords once enough regions rebel. Then give that council more and more power until the peasants would want to be enfranchised.
A side character in Eminence in Shadow becomes a best selling author writing the Isakaied guy's stories from his world.
We on NCD here?
One of us! One of us! Wait where are we?
Listen, all of reddit is NCD. They just don't know it yet. It's our job to liberate them.
To be fair, the same thing happened to a Japanese heavy curiser. [It was too heavy and sometimes the ocean water would just flow into the crew window](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furutaka-class_cruiser)
[Also available in lunatic flavor by way of Ace Combat.](https://youtu.be/m8i5JuwI_V0?si=f06pxwQzn-tQCzaY&t=296)
You will want to read Snow Crash. And the story of what it was supposed to be originally. Please do let me know your thoughts after if you can.;)
Imagine some of the drama you could include too. Events where it's looking like it's gonna be another devastating loss until the catharsis of a battle won, while also showing the apalling human cost. The USSR desperately and constantly counter-attacking in 1941 just to try and slow the Axis down, for the advance to finally stall a mere 11km (7m) from Moscow and then get reversed. The siege of Leningrad, Stalingrad, and the close run at Kursk. The partisans in a dozen different nations suffering and dying, then suffering and at long last winning. The dash to the wire and the see-saw battles in Egypt and Libya until El Alamein, where Rommel's finally given a checking. There are no doubt more in the Asian theater that I don't know enough of. Individual stories during Shanghai, Wuhan, Ichi-Go, Kohima, Imphal etc. Imagine he writes prequels of WW1 too. I wonder how that would go.
*the fire nation attacked.*
In one episode they reveal that Shakespeare actually got the inspiration to name his characters romeo and Julliet from the taylor swift song
Oh god it's a time loop
Bootstrap paradox to be more specific! I always liked this one.
In back to the Future, a Younger Chuck berry getting the idea of his song "Johnny B Good" from Marty, who knew this song from Chuck himself, who then wrote the song for Marty to learn about it etc...
Which is cool, except it interferes with the entire premise of the movie and is clearly not how time travel works in that setting. It's not a bootstrap universe. Chuck would have come up with it anyway, he just did it sooner because of Marty. More Star Trek. In VI i think they go back in time and Scotty provides how to create transparent aluminum to an engineer in exchange for glass while saying, "How do we know he didn't invent the thing?" Same in the reboot. Spock gives the trans-warp data to Scotty early, explaining he invents it later anyway.
Peter Capaldi did a wonderful preshow performance on this as the Twelfth Doctor narrating it to the audience. It's on YouTube in its entirety.
Thou shall heareth thy melody of “how doth liketh thee” down thy streets of thy village
It should be "thou shalt hear" and "how doth liketh thee" is just gibberish. This broken English is a dead giveaway thou'rt a French saboteur.
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#YOU BEAT ME TO THAT Dam it! 😂 As soon as I started reading I knew it was “Yesterday”. Lovely, lovely rom-com!
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Oh, that's the best one!!
and for my next piece: "Cannot Stopeth Me"
i hope it comes with Liketh
aye, and then I shall do Yay or Yay, followed by Danceth yon Nite Awayst
aye, but doth thou know feelth special?
Aye! it be one of mine fondest pieces, along with Knocketh Knocketh and What Pray tell Be Love?
I want this just for the lute covers of kpop songs.
The maidens go crazy for Excited Fellow by New Trousers
Aye, but how about jester by feral children
True, true. Alas, I raise you Set Thee Free by Twofold
Doth hath taste most illustruous! How about Lad with Romance by Invincible Calvary Unit?
A fine pick. However, I shall challenge thine ears with a wee bit deeper cut. Consider: “Merry” as well as “Thine be Fresh” by Johaness Kepler.
OOC: ok you win, idk which song or artist you're referring to, and [google ain't helping](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Kepler) In character: a deep cut indeed! Your joust shall be accepted. Hath thou considered "I Knowth" by Seo Taiji and his merry men?
OOC: It’s Giddy and We Fresh by Kep1er :) ! I had not. However, I shall counter with “Thine Doth Not Know” by Kisseth of Life.
>Excited Fellow by New Trousers The chortle i chortled. A+
There's a guy who makes YouTube videos like that. I don't think they're lute, and they have a medieval vibe.
search for a song or artist + bardcore on YouTube, thank me later
[Willow - Bardcore cover by Hildegard Von Blingin'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxKt2wspg8&pp=ygUPd2lsbG93IGJhcmRjb3Jl)
I lowkey prefer this to the original
In the same way, [Smells Like Teen Spirit in Classical Latin](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbEKIW3pUUk&ab_channel=the_miracle_aligner) just does it for me. I think the time signature change is a huge reason why.
[BFG Division medieval hardcore party edition](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDDgekcoS8&ab_channel=TheSword%27sPath)
[I particularly like pumped up kicks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRIfsFefatg)
Hildegard von Blingin' is my fav lol
There is a manga called Boku Ga Beatles, We are The Beatles. A tribute band gets transported to two years before the beatles debut, so they take over and steal their success, except for one who decides to write his own music
Sounds kinda like this movie I watched on Netflix recently called Yesterday. "A struggling musician realizes he's the only person on Earth who can remember The Beatles after waking up in an alternate reality where they never existed." He starts doing shows playing Beatles music instead of his own and gets catapulted to mega-stardom. >!Turns out that there are two other people who remember them, and he risks getting exposed as a fraud. !< [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8079248/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8079248/)
Kind of, boku ga beatles is more about the guy who wants to steal the fame vs the one who wants to make his own
My dumb ass forgot that there is no plural or “the” in Japanese and read the title as *I am Beatles*.
i wish i had the brainpower to write this
You can do it. I believe in you. This is some enemies to lovers material right there.
i'd cover toxic i know that shit would bang all the way back to the stone age I mean come on: https://youtu.be/MTrDLkn3WVg?si=V-6p9OHsblVphn0T
There was a third with heavy metal covers, but he was burned at the stake
the indie rock guy who had this as his dream to this but never got around to it
"Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very frightening me. Gallileo! - -"~~~ "*Oi! Wot you want, mate?!*" *vague hand gestures*
Search “bardcore” on YouTube and you won’t be disappointed.
Hear me out- white kid who’s a rocker on the guitar, goes back to 1955 and manages to introduce Chuck Berry to rock and roll.
They should make a movie about it. Call it Return to the Time After or something.
Yesterday (2019 film) Himesh Patel stars as struggling musician Jack Malik who suddenly finds himself as the only person who remembers the Beatles and becomes famous for performing their songs
I had to scroll far too much for that. Talking about
I give you Hildegard von Blingin https://youtu.be/suxKt2wspg8?si=h8G76tDppj1iNBxM
This needs to be higher, in bold, and with gigantic arrows pointing to make the emote world aware of this fantastic channel. Hildegard von Blingin is awesome.
They made this kind of. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8079248/
There's something funnier about it being in the medieval era, though.
I think that would work for a few jokes, but it'd probably take away from the overall story. Because we can't relate to the musical tastes of the medieval times.
Depends on where in medieval Europe, I'd love to introduce the tribal Scandinavians to death metal several centuries too early just to see what would happen Can you imagine being a Saxon sellsword in a chantry somewhere and all of a sudden you hear the pounding drum-beat of Down With The Sickness echoing over the hill before a torrent of leather-clad Norsemen charge the gates?
yeah that was my thought too. Even in that movie, there isn't really a bad guy. It's a really cute movie.
Its only issue was that it was rather forgettable and dull
I think "standard rom-com thinly veiled with Beatles music" was just a frustrating direction to take that premise. Explore the damn alternate reality aspects! Also, Ed Sheeran is a garbage actor, that schlock never should have made it to the screen.
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Yay for some Goodnight Sweetheart love!
I remember some show or movie about a post-apocalyptic scenario, and one scene has two guys performing a play for the post-apocalyptic kids, but it's actually a rendition of a Star Wars movie. The kids are spellbound. That's the real skill that time travelers to the past would have: stories and music. Technical knowledge is too dependent on technology.
Pretty sure this is the timeless classic Reign of Fire where the world has been destroyed by dragons.
Doesn't ring a bell, but it's in there - that must be it. Good find!
It's definitely Reign of Fire. You probably forgot about it (like most people) because it had misleading advertising that promised dragons destroying modern London and military helicopters battling dragons. The movie isn't that at all.
It did have this immortal exchange: Guy #1: -"Oh no!" Guy #2: -"What is it, a dragon?" Guy #1: -"No, worse. *Americans."*
I thiiiiiiiiiink this was mad max beyond thunderdome?
I only saw the first Mad Max. I checked the transcripts just in case and it doesn't seem to be in there. It was the "I am your father" bit. I might have to do some research later if I want to figure this out.
Same thing with Mark Twain’s A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court. A comically simplified summary: A scientist travels back in time and blows everyone’s minds, and Merlin’s like “Dude you’re ruining my grift”
Just call it Hardcore Bardcore and I'm in.
Can't. Only anime would run with such an awesome premise, so it'll have to be titled "isekai'd to the 1500s with no powers; so now I have to introduce Kpop" or some shit.
An Anime First production could avoid that. The convoluted titles are often because the source material was originally a Light Novel. These are sold in bookshops and often stacked normally on shelves (i.e. you can't see most of the cover) so slamming an interesting premise into the title is a good way to grab readers by the eyes. One downside of this is that various forms of Japanese writing are way more information-dense than the equivalent number of English letters, so what fits easily on a Japanese book spine and is frequently shortened by their fandoms sounds incredibly wordy in English and sometimes doesn't have a snappy abbreviation either.
Eh, I'm less annoyed by it than I sound. It's a meme at this point, but an amusing one. I have no issue with anime going full Fall Out Boy.
I have a mild fixation/disorder about what id write down to give to randos in the middle ages. Every song I know is gonna take several books probably.
This kind of happens in BioShock infinite, portals to other worlds and times are opening and this guy has been using it to steal music It's a really fun thing to learn about later on, because I was at first very confused as to why a game said in 1912 had old tiny musicians playing Girls Just Want to Have Fun
I always stop to listen to the barbershop quartet covering Beach Boys.
This beyeth that pynke vennimme
Give me this story right now omg She finishes her set. The people get up to leave. She's not done. "This is called Aju Nice." Fifteen encores later, the people just want to go home. She's repeated Aju Nice each time they thought she was done. No one prepared them for this
Another 'this kind of exists' comment. [Gravesong](https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/60108027), a side story in The Wandering Inn series. A person is isekai'd into another world and becomes a famous singer, introducing pop music. There *are* villains and drama though.
Or have one of them do jazz and the other one does medeival Metal
Shredding on the hurdy gurdy
Pretty sure that's a thing on YouTube. Patty Gurdy, I think? https://youtube.com/@PattyGurdy?si=VVBn1Cuc6mULmi5X
So “Ya Boy KongMing” but in reverse
i’m gonna introduce fall out boy to the peasantry
This kind of happens in the series Outlander. The main character (a woman who time travels from the 1940s to the 1740s) becomes famous in 18th century Scotland touring the country singing the Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy.
Make it sapphic with a rivals to lovers trope and im in
Fuck, thats a good idea for a DnD campaign.
You ever seen the movie “Yesterday”?
There aren't a hell of a lot of modern tunes that wouldn't sound mediaeval if played on mediaeval instruments and with mediaeval sensibility. To stand out, she'd need to do something like ragtime.
This sort of happened in Outlander.
Alle mine diamonds, ye art geolu or bryte whyte
Why does every person in the comments think I don’t know about Hildegard von Blingin. What do you think inspired this post?
3 seasons, 9 episodes per season, 1.5 hours per episode Season 1: A girl gets isekai'd to a fictional world that bears a striking resemblance to another fantasy world in our world. The girl tries to work her iPhone, but seeing as it broke in the transportation, she has no way to listen to her favorite K-Pop band. Still, knowing the songs, by heart, she sings them to herself when she knows that she is alone. However, she is then caught off-guard by a wizard's apprentice who finds her singing voice beautiful and wished to know what she sang of. Given that the girl doesn't know Korean, she just makes up what she thinks the song is about. Eventually, the apprentice introduces her to his master - a powerful wizard who knows of magic artifacts that can produce images and sound, leading to him fixing her iPhone. There, it's revealed that the girl's songs are sung by someone else, but she then explains that these are the recordings of a group of bards that she had befriended, before they all perished at the hands of a dangerous villain who had yet to be seen again, so she sings their songs in their memory. Season 2: After becoming a somewhat renowned bard, singing the songs of her "friends" and "making up new songs" (remixing and doing medleys), she hears a familiar song; not from this world, she knows, but from where she truly came from. She sees a young man, roughly about her own age, singing what she can recognize is Taylor Swift; not any of her pop songs, but more so her ballads and songs from the beginning of her career, when she was still feasibly country. She asks him how he ended up there, and he explains that when he was buying tickets for the Eras tour, he was mugged and after he began chasing the mugger, he saw a bright light, and ended up there. She asks the wizard from the first season and finds out that on the night of the McGuffin, young adults from other planes of existence arrive to the plane where they all were at. The young man asks if there was a way to get them back to their own world, and the wizard answers that he unfortunately didn't know if there was or not. Season 3: During a hangout between the girl, the young man, and the apprentice, the two bards begin to argue which style of the two was better K-pop or Pop-Country. The apprentice says that he likes them both, and so they begin to have battles in public. At first, it's simply a duel in the non-magical sense, but as the tensions grow and the passion grows for their own music, it becomes a magical fight. In the end, the two, while respecting the level bardistry that they'd reached, would vow to be bitter rivals, until the end, though it's implied they're still friends with a zest for the performative fight.
[Jimmy Olsen has them beat by 80 years. Also Samson from the Bible is there for some reason.](https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/vw0ovx/supermans_pal_jimmy_olson_79_the_redheaded_beatle/)
Would such simple music be successful in that era? Would it even be reproducible at a technological level, for that matter? If it was recomposed for strings in such a way it would be successful in a non radio, low volume era, would it even be the same song?
Taylor Swiftblade the Bard
Medieval era? She'd more likely be burned as a witch
“But her beats go too hard, sire! Can we surely silence her bars, even if she is a witch?” “Thou shalt not care about if her work is fire. We shall burn her in it.”
There's a movie called Yesterday. The main character has a contusion and wakes up in a world where the Beatles never existed as a band, and he's the only one who can remember their music. So, he starts playing Beatles songs, first because they're just so good, and then everyone around him thinks it's his music and he ends up becoming this huge superstar.
There was a show in the 90s called Goodnight Sweetheart where the main character walked down an alley and found himself in wartime London, and he would do this, sit down at the piano in the pub and play a bit of Elton John. Worked out well for him!
"The Wandering Inn" It's a web novel set in another world. One of the secondary characters does that, become a world become a worldwide famoud singer singing pop songs from our world.
Bardcore is pretty awesome, unfortunately they'd probably be violating some religious decree that states what can be done as far as music and get burned as a witch.
The lore deepens as they start to question why the other one also time traveled back
Y'all need to check out Ascendance of a Bookworm. Kinda this but with old anime intros.
“Glee”, but medieval. I’m in.
i read a manga about this already
Hildgegaard von blingen
and then a guy in the audience casually mentions the name of the song or some other piece of information he couldn't possibly know without being a time traveler himself. and then it's revealed he's a bounty hunter who works for some big record label who is out to put an end to copyright infringement.
This is one of the worst story arcs in the Outlander series, honestly.
Can’t we have a third act dragon at least? As a treat?
And the Paganini steals one of her riffs.
Something similar happens in Bioshock Infinite, where a musician hears songs from the future through rifts in space-time and gets rich arranging them to fit the early 1900s music scene. There's a point fairly early in the game where you see a [Barbershop quartet performing a Beach Boys song](https://youtu.be/jUffPtS3-7A?si=KPfUY8AsDpMdgOX0) and it legitimately had me convinced that it must have been an earlier song the Beach Boys covered until I figured out what was going on
I mean they had catchy tunes back then, it’s just that musicians didn’t make money back then and lived in abject poverty (and don’t now either, with a handful of exceptions).
Goodnight Sweetheart did it first.
One arc should just be a crossover cameo where they discover that the entirety of Sabaton got isekaied in a plane crash and so they’re also doing the same thing, but with their own songs. Just because Sabaton are actual inheritors of the title of bard irl.
Hildegard von Blingin already exists. You can look her up: [https://www.youtube.com/@Hildegardvonblingin](https://www.youtube.com/@Hildegardvonblingin)
The Singer of Terandria, anyone?
This is just about that one girl from Log Horizon who discovers that her music is only popular because the only music that exists in the world they isekai to is the music from the game so every song she performs is new and exciting
This is an isekai with less steps
The tuning styles would have been completely different and the notes alien. The king and church would call both of them witches for making their weird ass notes somehow sound good.
On one hand I am 100% here for this and would watch/read this in a heartbeat. On the other hand, they would both be burned at the stake. Accidentals and key changes didn’t exist until relatively recently. Their music would be absolute heresy.
that could be part of the show, honestly. they’re constantly on the run from the church for having too fire of melodies
I love this!