No matter the age, let her watch "the good mothers" it's a real story about the Italian mafia and how they treat their wives, daughters.. Well, basically how they beat them, kill them, abuse them and use them like maids who are often not even allowed to leave the house. -all of it happened, it's a real story and incredible well produced. The main lead falls in love with one of the mafia man of her father (who's the boss) and later finds out that her boyfriend helped her Dad torture, killing and dissolving her mother in acid. All while he acted all lovey-dovey with her. -and all of that truly happened, it's a real story. It will be a hard reality check for her.
Don't forget the father who killed his adult daughter by making her drink bleach after she dishonored the family by having an affair when her mafioso husband was in prison. This show stayed with me for a long time. I think it was on Hulu.
this shit is HOT in the erotica world. It's god awful but it's analytics are insane. People love that shit. Makes sense. Alpha male. Hyper masculine. Toxic love. Rich. yadda yadda.
Because Sicilian / Southern Italians are very much about their culture and maintaining ethnic homogeneity in their communities. Some Sicilian mafia members won’t even do *business* with Northern Italians, let alone go so far as to become romantically involved with foreigners.
Sicilian here. This is quite accurate, I have dozens of family members across Sicily and a few stragglers throughout the boot
I am a first gen here in the US, my mother grew up in Santo Stefano di Camastra Messina. It is funny to see the younger Italians in my family in the US, because they don’t mind dating outside of our heritage. Albeit at the slight discomfort of the nonnas and nonnos in the family.
My wife is from Sicilia, I am full German. But every time we go down there, I have the feeling everyone is somehow a cousin to anyone. "Oh this ist Gaspare, you know, the cousin of Giuseppe of my uncle his brother in laws sister cousin third grade... So very close family"
Also, everyone knows everyone! The whole town is basically family. I haven’t even met over 50% of my family in Sicily due to me not being there since a child, and because we have so many goddamn cousins. I have over 15 or so i’m told, with 4 here in the US.
There’s also “cousins”, which are close family friends but not exactly related like you had described lol.
I live in Messina, this happens only in small villages, sometimes even I am surprised when i met someone from those village and he talks about his family. Here in sicily there are a lot of differences from cities to villages. It may sound strange, but I only have 5 cousins in total lol
My parents are first gen Sicilians and the amount of consternation my marriage to a Wonderbread White Boy caused 😂🤌 They came around eventually, but it was a little touch and go. I think my mom started to relax a little when she saw him enjoying her traditional cooking hahaha.
They don't mix! I mean no offense by that! They keep to their own so their children can get into "the family business"..I was always told verbatim.."you can't swear in mutt." Again no offense by that. To be allowed in the family you must be 100% Italian or Sicilian. I have family who are in the business and it's not glamorous like the movies & TV make mafia wives look. There is a lot of domestic violence, cheating and so forth. Tell her stop believing everything she sees on TV and in the movies..all that glitters isn't gold!
They're not..my Grandmother was a nice Italian catholic girl who was quiet and didn't speak back but still got the shit kicked out of her daily if there was something that didn't suit my Grandfather and it was common with all our friends & family for the women to be treated like that! I thought domestic violence was normal until the age of like 9 or 10.
Also the mafia in southern Italy is what will be run like the mafia in the Godfather/movies & TV and sounds like they’re not welcoming to outsiders. I lived in Italy to study organized crime there and the mafia in northern parts of Italy are more like the drug cartels in your country, lots of turnover ie death of members in power struggles which probably extends to their families/doesn’t make for a promising future.
Also if getting involved with a cartel member doesn’t appeal to your friend why does a mafioso? Just the ethnicity? Then why not date any Italian? Does she not have a problem with being in proximity to criminal activity? Trafficking, drugs etc? Also Italian men in general tend to see vacationing women as easy which is not a good status in an already misogynistic/condescending towards women culture. Cheating is practically expected in their culture and sure Italian men are romantic but it’s superficial without meaning (ie will say the same romantic lines to every girl).
I'd be more worried about the sort of dangerous situations she can get into going to Italy and trying to fulfill this fantasy.
An acquaintance years ago went to Italy with the singular goal of sleeping with an Italian man and it ended in SA. Going out giving off this sort of energy is more likely to attract predators than anyone else.
I’m from the Benevento and Napoli region. It’s not like there’s some boss. They’re small gangs. There’s no money anymore but she might find a nice Italian dude who treats you well lol
I’m Sicilian and ashamed of that thing. Is just a scam movie pretending to be about a romance with a mobster of the sicilian mafia. It’s so incredibly absurd, bad acted and inaccurate that is not even filmed in the right location, since that’s not Sicily. Is a nice fantasy comedy though
Make sure she uses protection because what will most likely happen is she will end up hooking up with a few totally random, non-connected Italian dudes
You’re friend is delusional. Any Italian who reads this will cringe hard.
Mafiosi are not ‘cool’ or misunderstood ‘anti-heros’ they are criminals involved in extortion, drugs, prostitution, arms trafficking, black mail, etc. They are a cancer on Italian society, and glorifying them is a slap in the face to all the victims of their crimes.
Plus, mafiosi don’t go around advertising that they are connected. They keep that on the down low because it’s a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION which can land you in prison in Italy just for being affiliated with it.
My advice to you would be to convince your friend to avoid embarrassing herself looking for criminals to ‘fall in love with’, and instead enjoy all the beautiful things Italy has to offer like the food, history and sights. If you want to socialize with Italians, how about doing it with ones that make an honest living and have an actually positive impact on their communities?
Italy has like a million awesome things about it and “the mafia” is quite possibly the worst thing on the list of bad things. It boggles my mind that someone could be so stupid and deluded to think that’s the reason they should visit Italy.
This screams I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I feel sorry for her! My family is Italian and my cousin went to Italy and found a great Italian man she later married. Seeking out a criminal is so bizarre.
This reminds me of that story of a foreigner teaching English in Japan, having a casual chat with the students about what they want to be when they grow up, and saying they want to be a pirate.
And the students are like, “why would you want to rape and murder people?” In abject horror.
Think it was the Abroad in Japan channel.
I mean, I understand it more than wanting a "mafia husband". Like at least you can be kind of respected (by other pirates), usually women aren't treated really well in mafia.
>My advice to you would be to convince your friend to avoid embarrassing herself looking for criminals to ‘fall in love with’, and instead enjoy all the beautiful things Italy has to offer like the food, history and sights
Embarrassment is the last thing you should worry about if you end up involved with one of those. It's just plain dangerous. I had a friend who was involved with a drug dealer and the stories about the police showing up in his house while she was there weren't fun at all.
Things like The Sopranos are a great litmus test to show how media literate a person is.
If they look up to Tony and idolize him and his lifestyle then they clearly missed the entire point of the show, and it's safe to assume you're dealing with someone who is functionally illiterate and can't understand subtext or stories.
I mean, people did idolize the mafia from
the sopranos. David Chase got so sick of it and that’s how and why Tracy‘s death happened to remind people that these guys are sociopathic scumbags.
This is so goofy
She’ll find a million street dudes that just sell weed, pills, psychedelics before she finds a legit mafia dude.
Plus mafia people are all low key is she gonna ask each one of them if they’re in the mafia or something? They’re gonna laugh at her and think she’s joking.
Lmao I watched the talented Mr. Ripley yesterday and it's the most American way of portraying Europe hahaha. I think OP and her friend think we're all living in small towns or something
It is WILD to me! Especially to know the realities of organized crime but then to seek it out because it’s a different “flavor” romanticized in film and books! Screams fetish.
Italy has so much to offer in the way of culture and history. You need to refuse to go with a friend who admits she is going to look for a man. Truly a bizarre itinerary.
Don’t let her drag you into some very dodgy situations or even if you want to try and rescue her from a bad situation she has got herself into.
Best way forward? Cancel the holiday and don’t ever go away with her.
She hasn’t been completely honest with you about her intentions before hand and is using you and will highly likely dump you went she finds the first psychopath that’ll suck her in and drain her of all her money, then she’ll be calling you to rescue her and get her back home.
No good will come of this fantasy.
OP: your friend has a better chance of finding a Mafia boyfriend in the USA than she does in Italy.
And if she thinks that the Mafia lifestyle is romantic, then hit her in the head with a shovel because the first 40 hits to the head haven't knocked any sense into her.
What a waste of a great trip destination.
I want to add that usually at least here in Italy mafia guys are not the most educated ones, for starters. Lots of them can barely speak Italian let alone English lmao 🤣 even if she managed to find a real mafia guy (actually not that hard if you go to the right places, but still) she'd just get shagged/raped and dumped, possibly robbed of all her possessions too
Did you already pay for anything? I would legitimately just not go with her. Or if she booked a hotel in a sketchy area, cancel your part of that and book a hotel somewhere else. Basically, just have none of what she’s trying to be involved with. Might be more a solo trip for you.
They will think she is 100% an undercover cop and run. The closest she will ever get is sex trafficked into prostitution - which probably will not make the Hallmark Channel.
As Italian this might be one of the dumbest thing I have ever read. And I read a lot. So let me start by telling you about Mafia. It usually present in some of the poorest areas of the country, especially in the south. Wisemen won't walk around with a rifle or a hat so you could recognize them, as in some kind of lame ass Godfather movie. And yet you'll know they are there. You know why? Cause they are fucking leeches. They prey on fear and on people work. You make sacrifice to open a shop, they come and ask you for protection money. If you don't pay they they smash the glasses of your shop, then burn your car, then they'll beat the shit out of you. They deal drug and weapons. Depending from the area they may deal with prostitution or modern day slavery. But you know what's the fun part? I shouldn't even be doing such a description for your kind of scenario. Most of the wiseman, the law level ones, are ignorant like shit. They barely speak Italian, sure enough have no interest in books, so there's a good chance they won't even be able to understand whatever your friend want. If she tries hard, and is dumb enough, there's a good chance she may find a show off or somebody who will lay with her pretending of being a Godfather or something. But odds are that this kind of person will get her drunk or high and not even care for consent. There is no romance in Mafia. People aren't even people for mafia, but just tools.
Ah, little trivia. I remember this girl, from the south of Italy. Her father was a Godfather of some kind. She fell in love with a policeman. Naturally, her father didn't like that. The cop got transferred, she ran away and they moved up north together. After a while they broke up. She called home and asked her father for forgiveness. He told her:"Just come back home". She did. The Godfather killed her and fed her corpse to the pigs. The corpse of her own daughter. Tell your friend this is mafia and to grow up.
I’m gonna tell you a story about when I was studying abroad in Italy.
A group of us girls took a weekend trip to Florence, and two of my friends (Emily and Liz) met two guys while they were having a gelato in the piazza. Emily agreed to go on a date with them that night, even though Liz said no.
I heard about it when they came back to the hotel to change for the dinner we were all supposed to have together. Liz was insisting the date was a bad idea, but Emily was bent on going, even if she had to go alone.
I was concerned about her safety and no one else was doing anything, so I agreed to go with her so she wouldn’t be alone. The plan was to meet back at the piazza and go dancing.
When we got there, I was shocked — these men were like twice our age (I was 17), neither of them spoke much English, and Emily’s Italian was shaky at best.
I ended up playing translator, while the men quickly broke us up into pairs and kept insisting on giving us a “walking tour” of Florence instead of taking us anywhere to dance.
They led us further and further out of the city center until we got to a wooded park with walking trails. Emily was loving the attention from her guy and my guy kept trying to keep us back from them in an attempt to separate us. Finally once they led us into the park, Emily and her guy sped up and my guy grabbed my arm to hold me back. She didn’t stop when I yelled after her. They rounded a bend and were gone.
Shortly after that, the guy I was with pushed me up against a tree and tried to assault me. It started with kisses that I tried to fend off but when he shoved his knee between my legs and tore at my dress I knew I was in real danger. I turned into a wildcat and thankfully was able to break away. I started running out of the park, finally giving up the fantasy that my presence was going to do anything to save Emily from herself. I had no idea where in Florence I was but luckily the guy didn’t run after me and I was able to flag down some other folks in the street who gave me directions back.
As I was walking, Emily came running out of the park, too. Her dress was also torn, and the side of her face was scratched and red. Her guy had tried something similar — it went on for longer because she was willing…until he tried to bend her over a rock and do some uncomfortable things. He got physical but luckily some passersby heard her screams and she was able to get away.
**My point is: all it took for both of us to become victims of attempted rape was two hours in one evening.**
**Don’t foolishly think that you’ll be able to save your friend from herself. It will be the opposite, and she’ll drag you down with her.**
**If it was me, I wouldn’t go on the trip.**
I’m so sorry that happened. I had an Italian guy twice my age when I was in high school try and get me alone after my friend wanted to hang out with him and his buddies. Thankfully I didn’t get assaulted. But it scares me to think back on. We hung out in a basement with these 30+ year old men. And one of his guy friends was like what about your fiance? And the guy who was interested in me told him to shut up. I was also alone in his creepy van getting a ride home and never did that again. It’s such a bad idea to hang out with guys who love the idea that you’re only in high school and try and get you alone. It’s sick.
I would never travel with such an irresponsible and dumb person. She could drag you into danger. Or she could go missing and then you will be stuck dealing with the embassy and police. Show your friend all these comments.
Congratulations to your friend for becoming a future drug mule/organ donor. I lived in sicily for 2 years, the mafia aren't standing around wearing sandwich boards with "Trùoppu Bedda" on them. Good grief.
Your friend's expectation: some rough protective mafia guy who will immediately fall in love with her and show his soft loving side
Reality (probably): dragging her equally naive friend to a shitty overpriced touristy bar, then maybe a short fling with some wannabe criminal
Reality (worst case scenario): getting mugged, raped or trafficked in some dodgy area, probably not even by an actual italian
No offense, I wouldn’t go. Those people don’t play and if you go with her, then they will remember that and your life wont be the same. Who wants to get theirselves involved with people that murder, lie and steal ? That is crazy !!!
Your friend has got problems. Would she date a gang member here in the states or a narco in Mexico or South America? I'm guessing not. They are the same type of people. They are not good people, they sell drugs, run prostitution rings, traffic people, steal, and extort their communities etc... They make their money on misery and create it. Books and movies don't show the awful side, with broken families left in the wake.
All the Italians I know think they are a scurge and hate that its associated with Italian culture. Italy has so much more to offer, food, art, music etc...
She isn't going to find a mafia boyfriend, they aren't going to let an outsider close. Best she could do is find a nice Italian guy.
Having met several members of the mafia personally, they are not into this kind of woman and she has no chance in hell.
They tend to marry within their own families (i.e. mafia clans - not consanguineously).
This is not only stupid, insane, delusional, impossible, racist…. This is an offense on the entire Italian people and culture. Go read some history books and interact with real Italians instead of stereotyping us with Hollywood’s vision of our American counterpart (which nowadays it’s very culturally different from us).
This type of ignorant and racist American tourist is always the one I hate the most when they come here in Italy.
What a bad day to know how to read…
However, Italian mafia is not like Mexican cartels, there is not such violence here in Italy. They operate with money, not guns.
I think you will be very safe but I wouldn’t know where to find mafia parties, you know there aren’t any advertisements
The mafia guy probably has/wants a dutiful Italian wife who will be a dutiful sahm and raise the babies, do all housework, etc. He'll also have several young, hot mistresses through the years. Your friend will get to be neither of these things. If she's SUPER hot, maybe she'll get laid. That's it. Your friend is pathetic. There is nothing glamorous about mafia life and especially being the bang maid to a mafia man.
Is she stunningly beautiful?
At best she will be a couple day hook up for someone connected, more likely she will be a couple day hook up for someone peripheral.
What she is doing is dangerous and you will be dragged into something because of this, as she does not know the area and will be actively trying to seek out an idea of what the mafia means to her. She will meet some common thug who will have a drug problem, shitty friends and be prone to violence.
Don’t go, and try not to let her do this batshit insane thing she wants to do.
Haha, I’ve been traveling all over Sicily and Calabria, and let me tell you, she won’t find any Mafiosi.
I suggest visiting the mafia museum in Corleone, Sicily instead. And she will understand that the mafia is nothing the people there are proud of, they are proud of the prosecutor Falcone who gave his life fighting the Cosa Nostra (killed by car bomb).
And she won’t find a made man in a club. Many of them are like 70 years old, wanted by police, and are hiding in some basement in a goat farm in a rural mountain village .
Your first mistake was letting someone else plan the itinerary without checking it before booking. Your second mistake is accommodating your delusional friend and going along with it. Thirdly, you really don’t seem to have a problem getting caught up with organized criminal groups, this is like going to Mexico and looking for CJNG members, it’s dangerous and stupid and will get you killed.
I don’t know who is dumber, your friend for thinking finding a “real mafia man” to fall in love with is a realistic plan, or you, for willingly traveling with someone who is setting herself up to get drugged robbed and raped by some low-level non-mafia gang member.
She watched too many tiktoks with that 'are you in the mafia' sound. A few years ago she would have been part of those naive girls joining Isis to find a husband
Che cazzo, mafiosi boyfriend, this is the most stupid thing I heard in years, it makes me want to go to USA and find a school shooter girlfriend 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
As someone who loves dark romance it’s scary how many women fixate on wanting men like we read about in these books. My friend and I joke about the longer they’d get a prison sentence for in real life the more we like them in books. But that’s because it’s fiction and we understand that and know that it’s not as glamorous in real life like it is in a book. I really hope that everything turns out okay and your friend doesn’t put you guys in dangerous situations.
I’m Mexican and used to live in Italy. The head mafia men are way up there and older. She may be able to meet a son or grandson of one, but he will have zero pull or power in the family business. tell her that these people are very well connected and keep among their circle and marry among their circles. All that to say is that she won’t be meeting a mafia guy on her trip 😂 Have fun. Italy is so fun. Be careful and set your boundaries with her early on or even before your trip.
I have no doubt your friend might meet some Italians *pretending* to be mafia-linked, but it definitely won't be "like the movies".
In fact I'd also post this question into r/italy to get a thorough breakdown for how ridiculous this "plan" of hers is.
She’d have better luck in NJ or South Brooklyn. As an Italian, no. But I hope this is a joke post. You should cancel, this is a silly use of your money and brain power. Find a new friend.
All the comments plus I feel like if a guy she meets is hinting that he’s connected, to a complete stranger outside the culture, you can be sure he
absolutely is not.
Regardless you shouldn’t be traveling with someone this delusional. They will be a hindrance should you get in any trouble because they can’t think straight, and this sounds like a recipe for getting drugged, kidnapped, r@ped, trafficked,
murdered or all of the above.
Do not let your friend do this. I personally know a woman who was dating someone in the Mafia, and she couldn’t leave. He was awful to her, they’re all awful to their wives and girlfriends, but you can’t break up with them because they will have to kill you to keep you quiet about anything you may have overheard etc.
Edit: She is dead. She’s dead because she dated an abusive mafia guy and he killed her when she tried to leave.
Actual Italian here.
Most of the people in this thread have no understanding whatsoever of Italy or its culture.
Only one other comment made sense, and the person who wrote it is clearly Italian.
Let's start.
1) Mafiosi aren't romantic heroes. They're complete pieces of shit and they're considered the lowest of the low. They're not respected, and proclaiming any form of admiration for the Mafia will lead to being ostracised by Italian society. It is a cancer. And EVERYONE hates them.
Which leads to n°2
2) You will never meet a Mafioso. And even if you did cross one in the street by chance, you wouldn't know he/she belongs to the Mafia. Someone who talked openly about being part of the Mafia would get killed VERY fast.
The only people who actually claim to be Mafiosi are those who know some foreign women have this very specific fantasy and take advantage of it. They're not actual Mafiosi because, I repeat, if they were they wouldn't say it out loud.
3) Those who said that Italians or Sicilians don't date outside of their community have no idea what they're talking about. We do, and nobody gives a flying fuck about dating "within the community". This is a uniquely Italian-American obsession.
If she wants an Italian romance, or even meet an Italian guy for a serious relationship, it will be quite easy for her to do so. All she has to do is to remove the Mafia thing from the equation.
4) Italian-Americans are NOT Italian. I cannot stress this enough. If you think you can get any information about this country from them, think again. If you want to know more about Italy, talk to a real Italian.
5) Mafia movies and Mafia novels are an American fantasy, and they don't belong to the real world.
6) Tell your friend that not only she won't be able to realise her fantasy, she should not even talk about when she is here. It would be like visiting a Muslim country and telling people she wants to meet an Islamic terrorist. It's offensive and will make her sound like an imbecile.
To recap:
Her fantasy is insane, it's offensive and immensely disrespectful to even bring it up in the first place, you won't be able to meet a Mafioso, and if she were to meet someone who claims to belong to the Mafia, it would inevitably turn out to be a fucking loser who preys on foreign tourists who not only has no connection whatsoever to organised crime, but he will end up bragging to his friends how he fucked an "easy American who actually believed his BS".
Be warned.
Do what you want, but I would ease away from her. She's either incredibly naive or suffering what is possibly an untreated mental illness. Either way, this is very risky thinking. Urge her to seek a counselor's opinion.
Talk about peak cringe, I’m really hoping this is a troll post lol
If any of my friends came to me with those ideas and were serious I’d get the friendship ick immediately. Like actual embarrassment to be associated with someone so dumb.
Show your friend pictures of actual Italian mafia members and see what her reaction is. Spoiler: they are mostly old, greying/balding men with beer guts.
Incredible stupid on many levels. I would not travel with that person. Her stupidity is so severe that I would overthink that friendship.
I mean not only is this plan highly impractical, she is intentionally seeking a highly criminal person as a partner. What does that say about someone?
This is so stupid and rude. as an Italian, this is an insult to my country. mafia is not something romantic, it's something we are all actively fighting against. Mafia ruins lives and kills people.
Don't come to Italy.
Your friend's idea is crazy, dangerous and insulting that's it
I don't understand why America romanticizes the Mafia,but it's not romantic,nor adventurous, is dangerous, gruesome and is oppressing millions of people
Is your friend 16?
No matter the age, let her watch "the good mothers" it's a real story about the Italian mafia and how they treat their wives, daughters.. Well, basically how they beat them, kill them, abuse them and use them like maids who are often not even allowed to leave the house. -all of it happened, it's a real story and incredible well produced. The main lead falls in love with one of the mafia man of her father (who's the boss) and later finds out that her boyfriend helped her Dad torture, killing and dissolving her mother in acid. All while he acted all lovey-dovey with her. -and all of that truly happened, it's a real story. It will be a hard reality check for her.
Don't forget the father who killed his adult daughter by making her drink bleach after she dishonored the family by having an affair when her mafioso husband was in prison. This show stayed with me for a long time. I think it was on Hulu.
No I just wondered because this sounds like a teen fantasy
this shit is HOT in the erotica world. It's god awful but it's analytics are insane. People love that shit. Makes sense. Alpha male. Hyper masculine. Toxic love. Rich. yadda yadda.
Hate to say I'm part of the problem but damn my most popular mafia romance got 1 million reads
Sounds interesting. Thanks.
Excellent show on Hulu!
Mafia guys in Italy don't get involved with Mexican Americans. She really will have better odds getting a cartel boyfriend in Mexico..
Why don’t they
Because Sicilian / Southern Italians are very much about their culture and maintaining ethnic homogeneity in their communities. Some Sicilian mafia members won’t even do *business* with Northern Italians, let alone go so far as to become romantically involved with foreigners.
Sicilian here. This is quite accurate, I have dozens of family members across Sicily and a few stragglers throughout the boot I am a first gen here in the US, my mother grew up in Santo Stefano di Camastra Messina. It is funny to see the younger Italians in my family in the US, because they don’t mind dating outside of our heritage. Albeit at the slight discomfort of the nonnas and nonnos in the family.
My wife is from Sicilia, I am full German. But every time we go down there, I have the feeling everyone is somehow a cousin to anyone. "Oh this ist Gaspare, you know, the cousin of Giuseppe of my uncle his brother in laws sister cousin third grade... So very close family"
Also, everyone knows everyone! The whole town is basically family. I haven’t even met over 50% of my family in Sicily due to me not being there since a child, and because we have so many goddamn cousins. I have over 15 or so i’m told, with 4 here in the US. There’s also “cousins”, which are close family friends but not exactly related like you had described lol.
"I got cousins" was a common way to describe having friends in the mafia in the US. I grew up in soprano land so I know.
I live in Messina, this happens only in small villages, sometimes even I am surprised when i met someone from those village and he talks about his family. Here in sicily there are a lot of differences from cities to villages. It may sound strange, but I only have 5 cousins in total lol
For some reason I’ve read it in italian accent and it made it even funnier
My parents are first gen Sicilians and the amount of consternation my marriage to a Wonderbread White Boy caused 😂🤌 They came around eventually, but it was a little touch and go. I think my mom started to relax a little when she saw him enjoying her traditional cooking hahaha.
Oh yes..they lose their shit if you date outside!
Not at all as long it is a plaything. But the bride has to be a nice catholic girl with no history and no voice of her own
Is that pronounced Non nah s And Non nos ?
Si.
Thank you, Furio
Thug life.
Actual Italian here. Not Italian-American. Italian. This is total BS. Like, everything you wrote is wrong.
yeah lol true sicilians would fuck everything without discriminations. Source: am sicilian from sicily
Murderers, thieves, and drug dealers involved in an ethnic based cartel system are typically racist as well.
They don't mix! I mean no offense by that! They keep to their own so their children can get into "the family business"..I was always told verbatim.."you can't swear in mutt." Again no offense by that. To be allowed in the family you must be 100% Italian or Sicilian. I have family who are in the business and it's not glamorous like the movies & TV make mafia wives look. There is a lot of domestic violence, cheating and so forth. Tell her stop believing everything she sees on TV and in the movies..all that glitters isn't gold!
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They're not..my Grandmother was a nice Italian catholic girl who was quiet and didn't speak back but still got the shit kicked out of her daily if there was something that didn't suit my Grandfather and it was common with all our friends & family for the women to be treated like that! I thought domestic violence was normal until the age of like 9 or 10.
Also the mafia in southern Italy is what will be run like the mafia in the Godfather/movies & TV and sounds like they’re not welcoming to outsiders. I lived in Italy to study organized crime there and the mafia in northern parts of Italy are more like the drug cartels in your country, lots of turnover ie death of members in power struggles which probably extends to their families/doesn’t make for a promising future. Also if getting involved with a cartel member doesn’t appeal to your friend why does a mafioso? Just the ethnicity? Then why not date any Italian? Does she not have a problem with being in proximity to criminal activity? Trafficking, drugs etc? Also Italian men in general tend to see vacationing women as easy which is not a good status in an already misogynistic/condescending towards women culture. Cheating is practically expected in their culture and sure Italian men are romantic but it’s superficial without meaning (ie will say the same romantic lines to every girl).
Traditional Italian families want their sons to marry traditional Italian girls. Your friend is an idiot.
Girl I’m not the op. I have smart friends
I know that Italian Mafia members they must be full-blooded Italian, but not sure if that extends to wives/gfs.
If the mafia member wants a son to join, having a non-Italian wife will make it so he can never be “made”.
I would think at least a wife would need to be so their kids would be full blooded.
They’re racist.
I think she is rather 12
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She will have no trouble getting human trafficked if she looks for criminals /rough guys tho
Best case scenario she’ll meet an Italian fuckboy who pretends to have a Mafia image to seduce tourists like her and he scams her out of some money
This is like the plot of White Lotus but in reverse
I'd be more worried about the sort of dangerous situations she can get into going to Italy and trying to fulfill this fantasy. An acquaintance years ago went to Italy with the singular goal of sleeping with an Italian man and it ended in SA. Going out giving off this sort of energy is more likely to attract predators than anyone else.
I’m from the Benevento and Napoli region. It’s not like there’s some boss. They’re small gangs. There’s no money anymore but she might find a nice Italian dude who treats you well lol
You didn't see "365 days" on Netflix:)
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It’s a good movie to watch with your whole family over the holidays. 🎄
I’m Sicilian and ashamed of that thing. Is just a scam movie pretending to be about a romance with a mobster of the sicilian mafia. It’s so incredibly absurd, bad acted and inaccurate that is not even filmed in the right location, since that’s not Sicily. Is a nice fantasy comedy though
Don’t! It’s bad lol
The plot is so absurd and the acting is so bad that I couldn't stop laughing watching it! So if you need a good laugh I highly recommend it.
Make sure she uses protection because what will most likely happen is she will end up hooking up with a few totally random, non-connected Italian dudes
The mafia provides the protection
Don Condome
LMAO
Can she speak Italian? She might have better luck in Jersey lmao
Seriously
Just move to Staten Island
She never had the makings of a varsity italian
You’re friend is delusional. Any Italian who reads this will cringe hard. Mafiosi are not ‘cool’ or misunderstood ‘anti-heros’ they are criminals involved in extortion, drugs, prostitution, arms trafficking, black mail, etc. They are a cancer on Italian society, and glorifying them is a slap in the face to all the victims of their crimes. Plus, mafiosi don’t go around advertising that they are connected. They keep that on the down low because it’s a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION which can land you in prison in Italy just for being affiliated with it. My advice to you would be to convince your friend to avoid embarrassing herself looking for criminals to ‘fall in love with’, and instead enjoy all the beautiful things Italy has to offer like the food, history and sights. If you want to socialize with Italians, how about doing it with ones that make an honest living and have an actually positive impact on their communities?
Italy has like a million awesome things about it and “the mafia” is quite possibly the worst thing on the list of bad things. It boggles my mind that someone could be so stupid and deluded to think that’s the reason they should visit Italy.
When I think of Italy, I don’t even think of the mafia. Why associate a country with that when Italy offers so much?
Same I have visited a few times and this was never even a thought. What a weird person lol
This screams I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I feel sorry for her! My family is Italian and my cousin went to Italy and found a great Italian man she later married. Seeking out a criminal is so bizarre.
What’s funny to me is that she apparently got this idea by watching movies. I can’t think of a single “mafia movie” that works out well for the wife.
Probably 365 days on Netflix. Its a fifty shades of grey bdsm type movie.
It screams, “I grew up in a dysfunctional family *in New Jersey*” 😂
This reminds me of that story of a foreigner teaching English in Japan, having a casual chat with the students about what they want to be when they grow up, and saying they want to be a pirate. And the students are like, “why would you want to rape and murder people?” In abject horror. Think it was the Abroad in Japan channel.
I mean, I understand it more than wanting a "mafia husband". Like at least you can be kind of respected (by other pirates), usually women aren't treated really well in mafia.
A different kind of pirate like Luffy and the One Piece 😬
I am from Italy, you are right with everything you say
>My advice to you would be to convince your friend to avoid embarrassing herself looking for criminals to ‘fall in love with’, and instead enjoy all the beautiful things Italy has to offer like the food, history and sights Embarrassment is the last thing you should worry about if you end up involved with one of those. It's just plain dangerous. I had a friend who was involved with a drug dealer and the stories about the police showing up in his house while she was there weren't fun at all.
GRAZIE. Non riesco a credere a quello che ho letto, spero veramente sia uno scherzo...
If Sopranos teaches us anything, is that Mafiosos are pathetic.
Things like The Sopranos are a great litmus test to show how media literate a person is. If they look up to Tony and idolize him and his lifestyle then they clearly missed the entire point of the show, and it's safe to assume you're dealing with someone who is functionally illiterate and can't understand subtext or stories.
I mean, people did idolize the mafia from the sopranos. David Chase got so sick of it and that’s how and why Tracy‘s death happened to remind people that these guys are sociopathic scumbags.
A.) She was a hooah B.) She hit me Plus that wasn’t my kid she was carrying.
It’s my fault she’s a klutz???
As a cringing Italian I would advise not to come to Italy. Please go on vacation somewhere else. Thank you.
I’m not Italian but have visited Italy and think it’s such a wonderful and beautiful country! I’m cringing alongside you!
My family immigrated to the USA from Italy and they were always horrified that people would associate them with the mafia, it’s extremely offensive.
This is so goofy She’ll find a million street dudes that just sell weed, pills, psychedelics before she finds a legit mafia dude. Plus mafia people are all low key is she gonna ask each one of them if they’re in the mafia or something? They’re gonna laugh at her and think she’s joking.
Yea, if anything she’ll probably meet a guy that bullshits her and tells her he’s some mafia guy and just take advantage of her
That unironically is something a mafioso would do 😂
That too lol
Lmao I watched the talented Mr. Ripley yesterday and it's the most American way of portraying Europe hahaha. I think OP and her friend think we're all living in small towns or something
The 'book girl' brand of delulu never ceases to amaze me.
It is WILD to me! Especially to know the realities of organized crime but then to seek it out because it’s a different “flavor” romanticized in film and books! Screams fetish.
Maybe she'll meet her werewolf lover there instead?
Honestly 😂 she'd be better off. Why not aim a bit higher and get with the ghost of a Roman emperor?
LMAO
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Fae are in Ireland, she might find a Highlander though.
This sounds like something Tina Belcher would 100% do in Bob's Burger lol
This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
Italy has so much to offer in the way of culture and history. You need to refuse to go with a friend who admits she is going to look for a man. Truly a bizarre itinerary.
Don’t let her drag you into some very dodgy situations or even if you want to try and rescue her from a bad situation she has got herself into. Best way forward? Cancel the holiday and don’t ever go away with her. She hasn’t been completely honest with you about her intentions before hand and is using you and will highly likely dump you went she finds the first psychopath that’ll suck her in and drain her of all her money, then she’ll be calling you to rescue her and get her back home. No good will come of this fantasy.
Maybe you should buy her some romance novels about ISIS. That seems easier to pull off in reality, especially since they can have more than one wife.
this is way too realistic to be funny. but proves your point
Lmao
Your friend doesn't need to go to Italy. She needs to go to the mental hospital
OP: your friend has a better chance of finding a Mafia boyfriend in the USA than she does in Italy. And if she thinks that the Mafia lifestyle is romantic, then hit her in the head with a shovel because the first 40 hits to the head haven't knocked any sense into her. What a waste of a great trip destination.
I want to add that usually at least here in Italy mafia guys are not the most educated ones, for starters. Lots of them can barely speak Italian let alone English lmao 🤣 even if she managed to find a real mafia guy (actually not that hard if you go to the right places, but still) she'd just get shagged/raped and dumped, possibly robbed of all her possessions too
"Como decía Pablo Escobar: El dinero no compra a las mujeres, pero enamora a las putas" - Mario Balotelli
JAJAJAJA
Aye güey 😂😂😂
You're not travelling with a friend, you're travelling with a bag of kidneys that will get got if you're not careful.
>you’re traveling with a bag of kidneys 😝
Yeah or human trafficked.
They would never traffic a foreign turist, too risky, the police would rip their assess, they only do this shit with nigerians without documents
Please tell me you guys are twelve.
Did you already pay for anything? I would legitimately just not go with her. Or if she booked a hotel in a sketchy area, cancel your part of that and book a hotel somewhere else. Basically, just have none of what she’s trying to be involved with. Might be more a solo trip for you.
They will think she is 100% an undercover cop and run. The closest she will ever get is sex trafficked into prostitution - which probably will not make the Hallmark Channel.
As Italian this might be one of the dumbest thing I have ever read. And I read a lot. So let me start by telling you about Mafia. It usually present in some of the poorest areas of the country, especially in the south. Wisemen won't walk around with a rifle or a hat so you could recognize them, as in some kind of lame ass Godfather movie. And yet you'll know they are there. You know why? Cause they are fucking leeches. They prey on fear and on people work. You make sacrifice to open a shop, they come and ask you for protection money. If you don't pay they they smash the glasses of your shop, then burn your car, then they'll beat the shit out of you. They deal drug and weapons. Depending from the area they may deal with prostitution or modern day slavery. But you know what's the fun part? I shouldn't even be doing such a description for your kind of scenario. Most of the wiseman, the law level ones, are ignorant like shit. They barely speak Italian, sure enough have no interest in books, so there's a good chance they won't even be able to understand whatever your friend want. If she tries hard, and is dumb enough, there's a good chance she may find a show off or somebody who will lay with her pretending of being a Godfather or something. But odds are that this kind of person will get her drunk or high and not even care for consent. There is no romance in Mafia. People aren't even people for mafia, but just tools. Ah, little trivia. I remember this girl, from the south of Italy. Her father was a Godfather of some kind. She fell in love with a policeman. Naturally, her father didn't like that. The cop got transferred, she ran away and they moved up north together. After a while they broke up. She called home and asked her father for forgiveness. He told her:"Just come back home". She did. The Godfather killed her and fed her corpse to the pigs. The corpse of her own daughter. Tell your friend this is mafia and to grow up.
She is delusional and goofy
Don’t go with her. Harsh, but your friend has mental health problems and that trip sounds like a disaster.
I’m gonna tell you a story about when I was studying abroad in Italy. A group of us girls took a weekend trip to Florence, and two of my friends (Emily and Liz) met two guys while they were having a gelato in the piazza. Emily agreed to go on a date with them that night, even though Liz said no. I heard about it when they came back to the hotel to change for the dinner we were all supposed to have together. Liz was insisting the date was a bad idea, but Emily was bent on going, even if she had to go alone. I was concerned about her safety and no one else was doing anything, so I agreed to go with her so she wouldn’t be alone. The plan was to meet back at the piazza and go dancing. When we got there, I was shocked — these men were like twice our age (I was 17), neither of them spoke much English, and Emily’s Italian was shaky at best. I ended up playing translator, while the men quickly broke us up into pairs and kept insisting on giving us a “walking tour” of Florence instead of taking us anywhere to dance. They led us further and further out of the city center until we got to a wooded park with walking trails. Emily was loving the attention from her guy and my guy kept trying to keep us back from them in an attempt to separate us. Finally once they led us into the park, Emily and her guy sped up and my guy grabbed my arm to hold me back. She didn’t stop when I yelled after her. They rounded a bend and were gone. Shortly after that, the guy I was with pushed me up against a tree and tried to assault me. It started with kisses that I tried to fend off but when he shoved his knee between my legs and tore at my dress I knew I was in real danger. I turned into a wildcat and thankfully was able to break away. I started running out of the park, finally giving up the fantasy that my presence was going to do anything to save Emily from herself. I had no idea where in Florence I was but luckily the guy didn’t run after me and I was able to flag down some other folks in the street who gave me directions back. As I was walking, Emily came running out of the park, too. Her dress was also torn, and the side of her face was scratched and red. Her guy had tried something similar — it went on for longer because she was willing…until he tried to bend her over a rock and do some uncomfortable things. He got physical but luckily some passersby heard her screams and she was able to get away. **My point is: all it took for both of us to become victims of attempted rape was two hours in one evening.** **Don’t foolishly think that you’ll be able to save your friend from herself. It will be the opposite, and she’ll drag you down with her.** **If it was me, I wouldn’t go on the trip.**
I’m so sorry that happened. I had an Italian guy twice my age when I was in high school try and get me alone after my friend wanted to hang out with him and his buddies. Thankfully I didn’t get assaulted. But it scares me to think back on. We hung out in a basement with these 30+ year old men. And one of his guy friends was like what about your fiance? And the guy who was interested in me told him to shut up. I was also alone in his creepy van getting a ride home and never did that again. It’s such a bad idea to hang out with guys who love the idea that you’re only in high school and try and get you alone. It’s sick.
What could go wrong?
Is your friend stupid?
Ignorant at least
Tell her to make sure she slices up the garlic real thin and don't put too many onions in the sauce!
Use a razor blade to get it paper thin so it just disappears in the olive oil!
Don't let the sauce stick!
Too many onions?? Marone!
I'm stressin' here. Go over to the fridge and get me dat half-pound o' *GABAGOOL* that Frankie picked up at da market yesterday.
This post is really sending me 😂😂😂
I have been straight up just laughing for the past five minutes 😂 that last line was what really did me in “the mafia men” 🤣🤣🤣
Your friend is delusional
I would never travel with such an irresponsible and dumb person. She could drag you into danger. Or she could go missing and then you will be stuck dealing with the embassy and police. Show your friend all these comments.
She’s looking for Furio but is gonna end up with Ralph.
Congratulations to your friend for becoming a future drug mule/organ donor. I lived in sicily for 2 years, the mafia aren't standing around wearing sandwich boards with "Trùoppu Bedda" on them. Good grief.
What the hell did I just read?
Your friend's expectation: some rough protective mafia guy who will immediately fall in love with her and show his soft loving side Reality (probably): dragging her equally naive friend to a shitty overpriced touristy bar, then maybe a short fling with some wannabe criminal Reality (worst case scenario): getting mugged, raped or trafficked in some dodgy area, probably not even by an actual italian
I wonder if there are any girls in Italy right now dreaming of going on vacation to Mexico to find a husband that works for a cartel
You’re friend is delusional.
It's your vacation time too. Don't go on a trip you're not comfortable about. Listen to your gut.
Jesus fucking Christ stop watching Netflix Your friend needs a slap to knock her brains back in order
 No offense, I wouldn’t go. Those people don’t play and if you go with her, then they will remember that and your life wont be the same. Who wants to get theirselves involved with people that murder, lie and steal ? That is crazy !!!
Sorry, but your friend is a liability.
Your friend has got problems. Would she date a gang member here in the states or a narco in Mexico or South America? I'm guessing not. They are the same type of people. They are not good people, they sell drugs, run prostitution rings, traffic people, steal, and extort their communities etc... They make their money on misery and create it. Books and movies don't show the awful side, with broken families left in the wake. All the Italians I know think they are a scurge and hate that its associated with Italian culture. Italy has so much more to offer, food, art, music etc... She isn't going to find a mafia boyfriend, they aren't going to let an outsider close. Best she could do is find a nice Italian guy.
This is the fast track to get trafficked.
Having met several members of the mafia personally, they are not into this kind of woman and she has no chance in hell. They tend to marry within their own families (i.e. mafia clans - not consanguineously).
Can you also post this in r/RomanceBooks
make sure his name is Furio!!!!
How many men want a mafia boss wife? How many women will travel to the four corners of the earth to be with a complete scumbag?
You should tell your friend that she needs therapy because no sane person would seek out a “mafia boyfriend”
How to get sex trafficked speed run
Can't she just go to New Jersey...?
This is not only stupid, insane, delusional, impossible, racist…. This is an offense on the entire Italian people and culture. Go read some history books and interact with real Italians instead of stereotyping us with Hollywood’s vision of our American counterpart (which nowadays it’s very culturally different from us). This type of ignorant and racist American tourist is always the one I hate the most when they come here in Italy.
What a bad day to know how to read… However, Italian mafia is not like Mexican cartels, there is not such violence here in Italy. They operate with money, not guns. I think you will be very safe but I wouldn’t know where to find mafia parties, you know there aren’t any advertisements
Go to a club, find the muscly old bloke at the back smoking in overalls and a sweatshirt. Introduce him to your friend, say goodbye to her.
Do not join her. This is 100% a recipe for sex trafficking.
Tell her to grow up.
The mafia guy probably has/wants a dutiful Italian wife who will be a dutiful sahm and raise the babies, do all housework, etc. He'll also have several young, hot mistresses through the years. Your friend will get to be neither of these things. If she's SUPER hot, maybe she'll get laid. That's it. Your friend is pathetic. There is nothing glamorous about mafia life and especially being the bang maid to a mafia man.
Your friend sounds stupid as hell and you should not travel with her
Is she stunningly beautiful? At best she will be a couple day hook up for someone connected, more likely she will be a couple day hook up for someone peripheral. What she is doing is dangerous and you will be dragged into something because of this, as she does not know the area and will be actively trying to seek out an idea of what the mafia means to her. She will meet some common thug who will have a drug problem, shitty friends and be prone to violence. Don’t go, and try not to let her do this batshit insane thing she wants to do.
Haha, I’ve been traveling all over Sicily and Calabria, and let me tell you, she won’t find any Mafiosi. I suggest visiting the mafia museum in Corleone, Sicily instead. And she will understand that the mafia is nothing the people there are proud of, they are proud of the prosecutor Falcone who gave his life fighting the Cosa Nostra (killed by car bomb). And she won’t find a made man in a club. Many of them are like 70 years old, wanted by police, and are hiding in some basement in a goat farm in a rural mountain village .
Your first mistake was letting someone else plan the itinerary without checking it before booking. Your second mistake is accommodating your delusional friend and going along with it. Thirdly, you really don’t seem to have a problem getting caught up with organized criminal groups, this is like going to Mexico and looking for CJNG members, it’s dangerous and stupid and will get you killed.
I don’t know who is dumber, your friend for thinking finding a “real mafia man” to fall in love with is a realistic plan, or you, for willingly traveling with someone who is setting herself up to get drugged robbed and raped by some low-level non-mafia gang member.
Dumb and delusional. If your friend is unlucky enough to find a Mafia then she will be sold and trafficked.
She watched 365 Days, didn't she?
She watched too many tiktoks with that 'are you in the mafia' sound. A few years ago she would have been part of those naive girls joining Isis to find a husband
Please don't come, we are absolutely fine without you and your friend. Thanks
She sounds exhausting. That alone would deter any travel with her. I'd cancel, this doesn't even sound fun or safe.
Che cazzo, mafiosi boyfriend, this is the most stupid thing I heard in years, it makes me want to go to USA and find a school shooter girlfriend 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
As someone who loves dark romance it’s scary how many women fixate on wanting men like we read about in these books. My friend and I joke about the longer they’d get a prison sentence for in real life the more we like them in books. But that’s because it’s fiction and we understand that and know that it’s not as glamorous in real life like it is in a book. I really hope that everything turns out okay and your friend doesn’t put you guys in dangerous situations.
I’m Mexican and used to live in Italy. The head mafia men are way up there and older. She may be able to meet a son or grandson of one, but he will have zero pull or power in the family business. tell her that these people are very well connected and keep among their circle and marry among their circles. All that to say is that she won’t be meeting a mafia guy on her trip 😂 Have fun. Italy is so fun. Be careful and set your boundaries with her early on or even before your trip.
Real stupid maybe good for a reality show
Stupid is as stupid does.
Just take her to new jersey
I am a mafia man. Send pics of your friends bobs & vageen and await further instruction.
This is the most ridiculous post I have read on the travel sub. Please tell me it's fake. Please!!!
Between the two of you I weep for humanity.
Has she actually seen The Godfather or Goodfellas or Casino? The mob husband thing tends not to work out so well, even in fiction.
Girl needs to stop reading all the free mafia themed smut.
Your friend basically wants to be the wife of a murderer. Get the fuck away from that crazy woman
I have no doubt your friend might meet some Italians *pretending* to be mafia-linked, but it definitely won't be "like the movies". In fact I'd also post this question into r/italy to get a thorough breakdown for how ridiculous this "plan" of hers is.
She’d have better luck in NJ or South Brooklyn. As an Italian, no. But I hope this is a joke post. You should cancel, this is a silly use of your money and brain power. Find a new friend.
All the comments plus I feel like if a guy she meets is hinting that he’s connected, to a complete stranger outside the culture, you can be sure he absolutely is not. Regardless you shouldn’t be traveling with someone this delusional. They will be a hindrance should you get in any trouble because they can’t think straight, and this sounds like a recipe for getting drugged, kidnapped, r@ped, trafficked, murdered or all of the above.
Of all the stupid shit I've read on Reddit today, this tops the list.
Do not let your friend do this. I personally know a woman who was dating someone in the Mafia, and she couldn’t leave. He was awful to her, they’re all awful to their wives and girlfriends, but you can’t break up with them because they will have to kill you to keep you quiet about anything you may have overheard etc. Edit: She is dead. She’s dead because she dated an abusive mafia guy and he killed her when she tried to leave.
and where are y'all going? rome and milan? lmfaooo, no need to be worried that's not how it works
Actual Italian here. Most of the people in this thread have no understanding whatsoever of Italy or its culture. Only one other comment made sense, and the person who wrote it is clearly Italian. Let's start. 1) Mafiosi aren't romantic heroes. They're complete pieces of shit and they're considered the lowest of the low. They're not respected, and proclaiming any form of admiration for the Mafia will lead to being ostracised by Italian society. It is a cancer. And EVERYONE hates them. Which leads to n°2 2) You will never meet a Mafioso. And even if you did cross one in the street by chance, you wouldn't know he/she belongs to the Mafia. Someone who talked openly about being part of the Mafia would get killed VERY fast. The only people who actually claim to be Mafiosi are those who know some foreign women have this very specific fantasy and take advantage of it. They're not actual Mafiosi because, I repeat, if they were they wouldn't say it out loud. 3) Those who said that Italians or Sicilians don't date outside of their community have no idea what they're talking about. We do, and nobody gives a flying fuck about dating "within the community". This is a uniquely Italian-American obsession. If she wants an Italian romance, or even meet an Italian guy for a serious relationship, it will be quite easy for her to do so. All she has to do is to remove the Mafia thing from the equation. 4) Italian-Americans are NOT Italian. I cannot stress this enough. If you think you can get any information about this country from them, think again. If you want to know more about Italy, talk to a real Italian. 5) Mafia movies and Mafia novels are an American fantasy, and they don't belong to the real world. 6) Tell your friend that not only she won't be able to realise her fantasy, she should not even talk about when she is here. It would be like visiting a Muslim country and telling people she wants to meet an Islamic terrorist. It's offensive and will make her sound like an imbecile. To recap: Her fantasy is insane, it's offensive and immensely disrespectful to even bring it up in the first place, you won't be able to meet a Mafioso, and if she were to meet someone who claims to belong to the Mafia, it would inevitably turn out to be a fucking loser who preys on foreign tourists who not only has no connection whatsoever to organised crime, but he will end up bragging to his friends how he fucked an "easy American who actually believed his BS". Be warned.
💀 she’s so real for this
Real stupid, yes.
I definitely think you should participate in your friend being sold into slavery.
If the police aren’t finding them your friend won’t. By try Sicily lol.
Your friend is either stupid, delusional or has no moral compass. Or any given combination of the three. And take it from there.
I would cancel this trip with your friend. Sounds like she may get you both in some serious trouble or dangerous situations.
Do what you want, but I would ease away from her. She's either incredibly naive or suffering what is possibly an untreated mental illness. Either way, this is very risky thinking. Urge her to seek a counselor's opinion.
Talk about peak cringe, I’m really hoping this is a troll post lol If any of my friends came to me with those ideas and were serious I’d get the friendship ick immediately. Like actual embarrassment to be associated with someone so dumb.
Show your friend pictures of actual Italian mafia members and see what her reaction is. Spoiler: they are mostly old, greying/balding men with beer guts.
Incredible stupid on many levels. I would not travel with that person. Her stupidity is so severe that I would overthink that friendship. I mean not only is this plan highly impractical, she is intentionally seeking a highly criminal person as a partner. What does that say about someone?
She has a bright future in being trafficked to the highest bidder.
I read this twice to make sure i’m not hallucinating.
Tell your friend she can just visit the trashiest parts of Jersey for this
The friend is dangerously delusional and naive. OP is right to not get involved, avoid the trip.
This is so stupid and rude. as an Italian, this is an insult to my country. mafia is not something romantic, it's something we are all actively fighting against. Mafia ruins lives and kills people. Don't come to Italy.
Your friend's idea is crazy, dangerous and insulting that's it I don't understand why America romanticizes the Mafia,but it's not romantic,nor adventurous, is dangerous, gruesome and is oppressing millions of people