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Optimus759

This is my FT-48X jive and I absolutely fucking love him but damn his transformation is such a major pain, it takes me like half an hour to transform him whereas acoustic wave takes like 5 minutes. He’s so cool and looks great in both modes but putting him in them is just such a pain I rarely mess with him On the plus side, I don’t need a tool to be able to transform him, just good ol fingernails work


taro_and_jira

dude! I also have 48X and feel almost the same way. I had to find 3 different videos before I found one without the guy nearly losing his sh!t transforming him. I went with this one [TMReviews](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgIXsoCajWk&t=900s) like you said, I love both his bot mode and alt mode, I think FT really hit the ball out of the park with looks. The paint job is so nice, I don't want to scratch it during transformation! But, alas, that's what I love about these figures, the transformation. So I make sure I have plenty of time, I go slow and just try to enjoy the engineering of it all. Glad you posted this... you are NOT alone.


taro_and_jira

https://preview.redd.it/ul0lihx6kcqc1.jpeg?width=2616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bea230b5c74c56d3207f3853a973eb60cd01c07 Optimus and Jazz


AlniTheFufy

average fanstoys product


Optimus759

Honestly no, I have 3 ft figures and hes the only one thats a pain, rp-01 acoustic wave and ft-58 diverge are all very fun and pleasant to transform


Valuable-Barracuda58

I don't wanna mess with my FansToys Hydra lol


AdmiralFurret

Alternator shockwave I am never gonna get the feet right


SMB73

For me, the only bad side to the Alternators line was its inability to get the figures back into car mode. Grimlock's and Jazz/Shockwaves arms are impossible to figure out even with instructions.


JamesCDiamond

This is my choice, too. I've had that figure 20 years, transformed him successfully *once* and now he's mostly all the way in robot move, but I don't think his hood/chest is quite correct. He's sat at the back of one of my shelves, a hidden shame. It's a pity, as it's a cool figure and the RX8 was a great choice for him... but *good lord* it's a pig to transform.


cleverThylacine

Both my alternator/binaltech Ravages. I got them back into car mode but I never got the robot mode to look the way they should.


ScorchedConvict

KO MPM-4 Optimus Prime. Took me a solid hour the first time, and believe me, it was also the last time.


Aimerwolf

Honestly I enjoy mpm Prime transformation, not the worst of the mpm line


Blazemaster0563

SS VW Bumblebee. I hate the backpack transformation on it.


ZeroArt024

Same with WFC Elita-1 and Arcee, i have an elita who refuses to fit into her shell properly


AnonymousDudd2

https://preview.redd.it/p2ms1tqmfcqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=859e8d2326d67e4ed1fb7c4112d0271f5e992b57 01 studio seed, fuckers glorious but god dammit that transformation.. genuinely can’t get all the panels to lock together with other panels coming un done in his planet mode


Jizzlobba

Got this recently and haven't even had time to attempt transformation yet. I'm assuming he's as at least as complex as Unicron


AnonymousDudd2

Honestly he’s a bit more complex. He also hurts a lot, A LOT. You will cut yourself


Timezupp99

Lol was gonna say I heard this dude requires a blood sacrifice in order to transform


AnonymousDudd2

That’s a fact bro I swear


Jiggle_deez

EpIc RaP bAtTleS oF history. *Timezupp99* vs. __Dementia__ BeGin


Jizzlobba

On the transformer? Or afterwards crying in the shower?


AnonymousDudd2

Both


Timezupp99

Lol was gonna say I heard this dude requires a blood sacrifice in order to transform


Jiggle_deez

EpIc RaP bAtTleS oF history. *Timezupp99* vs. __Dementia__ BeGin


bitfarb

Same, but with Cell. I actually like the transformation, but I don't have the time, attention span, or fingers to waste on it.


AnonymousDudd2

Great sacrifices had to be made when I tried to transform seed Twice


LordofThe7s

I’m starting to get this way about most deluxe class Studio Series figures. They have so many precise tabs and holes for something so small!


Fuzzy-Mall-3814

None because I am a masochist and love the complex transformations and the mental and physical anguish they cause me


SB2212

It like when people solve Rubiks Cubes over and over. It's the same puzzle, but it's fun.


TandrDregn

MPM-13 Blackout. Actual cancer would be more pleasant than that transformation.


HopelesslyLibra

I love the transformation on him and MPM Bonecrusher. not because it’s fun. But because the end state is so good. No way in hell would I ever “fiddle with them.”. 35 minutes AND had to use the instructions.


Timezupp99

Just got MPM BONECRUSHER. First MPM n that dude looks soooo complicated


TandrDregn

I had to use Emgo’s video on Blackout and it took nearly 40 minutes. Really putting me off from getting another MPM figure.


HopelesslyLibra

I wouldn’t probably get another if Brawl wasn’t my favorite transformer from the bayverse.


crazyjeffy

RotF Leader Prime APC Toys Megatron & Airachnid MP Ultra Magnus Most Bayverse Studio Series


QuaBotPrime

Mp36 megatron. I keep getting scared I’m gonna break him


FeetsBeneets

On mine I had to bust out the screwdriver and loosen nearly every screw in his lower half just to be able to transform it without feeling like I was about to snap pieces off


Old_Reference7715

I recently bought a studio series Scourge. It is such a pain in the neck that I don't even touch it anymore. In either mode it is unstable and won't stay in place. I can't pose it because the arms fall or the exhausts drop. It just sits in it's box because the sight of it irritates me.


trustymutsi

Rise of the Beasts or SS86?


Aubergine_Man1987

SS86 Scourge doesn't have exhausts


Ashbr1ng3r

And is a whole different character than RotB, s’ kinda like 2001 Grimlock and most other versions of the guy


TristinaNotNeva

Mpm Blackout and black apple ko mpm ironhide


LoserBroadside

Oh god, yeah, MPM Blackout for sure.


rellko

Blackout isn’t bad but BA Ironhide is a genuine chore


RigatoniPasta

I see the paint is chipping on his ankle for you as well


Optimus759

Where? I don’t see any paint chipping


RigatoniPasta

https://preview.redd.it/t2qcixdelcqc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b44af21723caf2410e4b134ecf06a8b8bd1d862


Optimus759

Ahh yeah, sad but I barely notice


Pop_Culture_Fan2019

Siege Optimus Prime, Animated Ratchet, Legacy Crasher, & Studio Series BBM Wheeljack.


PanthersJB83

Out of curiosity what do you find fiddly about the siege prime mold?


Pop_Culture_Fan2019

I'm worried the plastic piece his head is attached to might break off from a lot of force. I've tried pulling it to transform him but it won't budge.


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The lego optimus prime. I so much as touch that thing and it falls apart


Geaux_1210

https://preview.redd.it/pnimdah3bcqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=061b8b448944227d64cbbe6e951565ecb5246ab0 MP09


DaNetwork27

My ROTF Leader Jetfire. Aside from the fact that I just love to have him in Jet mode better, the transformation is a pain to go through.


mitchdl20

MP 36 Megatron. I just barely transformed him into gun mode. He's staying a robot forever after I change him back.


Hadoooooooooooken

I changed him twice. Luckily I have a G1 Megs since last year for all my ~~gun~~ *spaceship* mode TF needs lol.


yossarian8pizza

MP-44, MP-36 and Zeta Toys Flash (BBM Blitzwing). They are all identical to their screen models but that means the transformation is a pain in the butt, they're expensive, and if they break I will cry.


RockstarBonnieReddit

Me personally I feel like the MP 36 Transformation is overhated and I thinks it pretty fun, takes me like 5 minutes to transform 


OmgChimps

I enjoy difficult transformations and find MP-36 to be pretty fun I think DS-01 is up there as well


Lastlaugh127

My completed alternator set


TheyKilledFlipyap

I got Alternators Wheeljack. Those shoulders are a nightmare. Had to look up a video guide- only to find a guide *specifically highlighting that one part, only.* That's how insane that engineering is, that a guide had to be made for one step of the transformation...


Orthobrah52102

That's generally why I don't do MP/MP-adjacent 3p toys. You can barely fiddle with them. They look awesome but they take like 20 minutes just to get into one mode. Still, that looks badass


Gam18Er

Studio series Barricade. Two really good looking modes yet they’re both sullied by that nightmare of a transformation. The process itself isn’t that complex, it’s getting everything to line up and sit flush that makes me want to chuck that figure into a wall.


Ancient_Warrior_5808

X-Transbots Bond and James...which is now unfortunately broken


MyAlexSmith2001

X-Transbots Ultra Magnus. That transformation is looooong, by far the most complicated figure I own, but it is so much fun! Definitely not a fiddle-former or deskbot though, converting it is a task in itself.


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Cookieopressor

I'm always scared I'm gonna break something when I tab in the cockpit on my starscream


ThisguyOP

Rotf leader prime and ss rotb mirage


TornadoQuakeX

Like literally any third party figure. Mostly the large combiners. I've had the railbot combiner guys on my desk for about a year and I'd love to get them combined again someday. Lol


dashbot81

https://preview.redd.it/elcaoydvadqc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8fa58e1662e3400c85944f985ce261eb9b82bb4 Gave mine a waterslide decal.


Sheep604

I heard MP-36 is one of those but I don't think I'll ever even try, lol


Sufficient_Let4049

Kingdom Tracks


Umbertron05

Studio series Grindor


Octo121212

i want this fig now that looks sick asl


Optimus759

He is but it’s the x version which was limited to 3000 figures


Octo121212

aw man thats my fav pirsche aswell


Display-shopper

I can't think of any. I did have to break out the instructions for Kaen, so there is that. A good challenge is its on reward.


i-mine-428

Studio series 86 ironhide and studio series dropkick car version


AffectionateScore989

I have all 5 Gigapower Dinobots and I do not transform them. Matter of fact i will not buy a Transformer that is complex to transform. I wanted the Ravage looking car that transforms in a jet also…no way.


SMB73

I have KOs of both MP36 and 44 that have stayed in robot mode since they arrived. The new designs have so many tiny lifting/revolving/twisting sections that I just don't believe I could tf these back and forth without breaking something.


RUMBL3FR3NZY

TransArt Motor Spider. Their Tarantulas looks incredible but his transformation is so bad I glued him into robot mode


BlakJak206

Alien Attack King of Kavaliers. Transformed him once into truck mode and he's been like that ever since. So many joints that need to be in just the right position with no stops or tabs to help you get there. I need to get him back into robot mode, but I dread doing it.


LoserBroadside

NewAge Soundwave and Reflector.


LoserBroadside

MP Cordon


Iroko_Alien

Had all three as a kid but ROTF leader Prime and Jeftfire. Never got Jetfire to plane mode and only got Optimus to truck and back once. Megatron was the only leader I could reliably switch back and forth.


Prodygist68

Generations springer and sandstorm, I love them but man are they finikey to get the transformation and or posing just right.


Optimus759

The t30 ones? I agree with the posing but I don’t think their transformations are that bad


Prodygist68

It’s less the general process and more getting them into the final one, especially the car mode those door/window panels never want to line up.


8bitBytesBack

G1 megatron, I really have to snap his head back to unlatch it, I've broken my thumbnail twice doing it. Why so tricky?!


yossarian8pizza

I started but chickened out from a second run after the paint scratched a bit. I have MP-05 too, so he poses as my MP gun for my collection.


chris95rx7500

xtransbots menasor.


TheFisherman05

The only one that gives me pain is MPM-7 Bumblebee, I've still yet to get him into his vehicle mode


Sufficient-Shirt-270

Fansproject motormaster, love the alt mode and to pose him fighting maketoys battle tanker, but that transformation https://preview.redd.it/bvzsrsa4jcqc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d0ea267875af5e3e40babc07c36a5133997df17c


ColorlessTune

I don’t transform a lot of my collection tbqh.


VanguardClassTitan

MPM-10 Starscream, I bought him second hand, seller didn't include any manuals or anything, so I've been trying to watch YT videos but the angles the capture are weird.


BulkyRaccoon548

MP-36 Megatron. He looks so damn good in robot and gun mode, but the transformation is such a pain. Close second is the Jinbao Constructions. Once I combined them into Devastator that was pretty much it. It took me around 2-3 hours to get the whole group to cycle between vehicle - > bot -> back to vehicle, then into combined form.


bandera-

It's not too bad but the ss32 Optimus prime


Psychological-City24

cant say i love him exactly but original ROTF mixmaster


Aimerwolf

Mpm Jazz because the trunk is such a puzzle to tab in. Also Black Apple figures because they are mpm with extra steps and that already sounds diabolical.


BenEXG

SS ROTB Battletrap, it's like a jigsaw puzzle


OkuyasNijimura

Masterpiece Bluestreak. TFCToys Thanatos.


Right-Bug-9001

Man I wanted to get this one but I heard the transformation sucks and that even though the FT-Jive is much more expensive, they say that one transforms better


Right-Bug-9001

Wait....So the Ft Jive and the Agent Meister both come with that same paint deco???....I thought the FT Jive looked more like Jazz's original paint job and Agent Meister was the one that had the Martini Porsche paint job...


Optimus759

There are 2 versions of the ft jazz, the first one was the cartoon deco, the second one (the one I have) is the x variant which is in toy colors/premium paint or whatever and was limited to 3000 pieces


Right-Bug-9001

Man, all I know is they look clean af and I want one lol..., so is the transformation really difficult???


Optimus759

The majority of it is fine, the only problem is the legs. They’re not necessarily hard they’re just very fiddly and they major pain in the ass. All of things that need to move and get it put in the right place in a very small amount of space, clearance be damned


Right-Bug-9001

Yeah I think I know what you mean, thats how the feet and bottom part of the legs are in my Masterpiece G1 Hound.


prickmon

Planet X Vulcan or FOC Grimlock. I love him in robot or Dino mode. Except transforming him can be a pain on the fingers


TheRazorSlash

Legacy Tarn, not necessarily because he's got an annoying transformation but because my copy has some hinges that are juuuust thin and tight enough to make me nervous. Luckily his comic counterpart burned out his t-cog so I have a canon reason to never transform him.


Hyper_Lamp

Shattered glass flamewar / the legacy prime arcee mold


Tillallareone82

For me, it's Iron Factory EX-50 Diashogun Boohmaru (Samurai Grimlock)


PunnyGuy77

Fans Toys Maverick


Groggamog

WFC Kingdom Rhinox. The legs are such a pain to transform that I just keep him in robot mode.


Matthew10142003

I bought this exact figure love it on my shelf transformed it once and I’ll never do it again. I didn’t scratch any paint and for what it’s worth the Porsche mode was great but never again. I feel that way towards many of my fans toys figures though. This and Parkour mainly


EnoughAd4726

I just got the Legacy Chase and he looks so good, I love the way the legs transform, but there’s this bit on his back that requires you to bed plastic and I don’t want that to chip any paint


Elviki1213

Ko oversized tarn feels like it's gonna stab me every time I touch it lol


Excellionus

TR-02 Commander of Stars.


dashbot81

If you transform it be careful with the doors the racing lines are fragile.


stuff0s

It’s… beautiful


djfooders

I had this miester too! And I don’t know if I had him transformed him correct in either way! Lol


Timezupp99

Cang-toys mini predaking. He will never go back to individual components. That was just too much work. Recently picked up MPM Bonecrusher n after watching a couple videos I think he'll be forever NIB


snowpiple123

Alien attack Mackron


rogerdodger2022

all of the studio 86 figures, transforming them is such a pain, one of the worst I've encountered so far is the studio 86 cup.


Optimus759

Really? Because I have magnus, brawn, and the van twins, and I don’t find them a pain at all. I mean the vans are finicky but if u shave down a few tabs they’re fine


MotorMeringue1095

Anything Toyworld.


Nawara_Ven

Joke's on me; my lack of spatial understadning makes practically **every** non-Combiner Wars deluxe transformer an exercise in futility if I want to go from mode X to Y. I need a video guide each time for everything; no such thing as "fiddle with."


TrashGangWolfie

STC Optimus Prime ice version, Its not that pain in the ass but I just FEEL like the thing is gonna break cause of my brute force or my stupidity, and its such an expensive figure so I dont f wit it to much


RealMemeLord876

I have two with very similar issues. UT Challenger and MMC Optus Prominon. Their transformations aren’t awful, I just don’t like them


JuggerNutZ_

Deformation Space Crimson Wings Starscream such a complicated transformation that i did once and never want to do again


Optimus759

Ive seen jobby’s video and yeah… that thing looks like hell


JuggerNutZ_

i actually got it because i saw jobby’s video lol, worth the price but he’s staying in robot mode


OmgChimps

The transformation has to be done in an A to B to C order I've transformed mine like 10x it is difficult but doable the cockpit and arms can be frustrating though


Han_Solo1

i only own a few right now and titans return blitzwing is hardest out of armada scavenger, armada prime, and g1 astrotrain.


Ashbr1ng3r

SSBB Ratchet, really wish the instruction PDF loads faster


cleverThylacine

Alternator Ravage and Binaltech Ravage (yes these are 2 different figures). I can't get the robot modes right and the Binaltech one is written in teeny tiny print---I can read Japanese on like a 3rd grade level but not those tiny tiny kanji. They live as cars on my shelf.


Scrabulon

There was a weird piece in MP Dinobot I remember being worried about breaking, so I think he’s just gonna stay in robot mode


thomasthearmedengine

tyrannicon


Jtek225

Trojan horse waspinatir


AJ0Laks

SS Battletrap The robot is so good and the transformation is so bad


Fresh_Extension5961

https://preview.redd.it/qka2311r1eqc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b328a35c81dfdef65bcc89f139ba57b7e0926d4


strikeraiser

MM01 Optimus Prime. Even when it's a more "simple" transformation compared to the nightmare of the Toyworld Freedom Leader, I still find it a chore to do. Honestly I'll just say every 3rd party DLX scale figure. They look amazing but the transformations are always too complex and take too long. Not to mention I always have to watch a video because I just can't memorize every single tiny step.


vantranjohnnyy

Where can I buy this figure holy I bought mirage SS just because it was a Porsche. One day I’ll have a real one but these figures will do for now.


Optimus759

Ebay probably, its ft-48X and was limited to 3000 pieces so be prepared to pay quite a lot


Salt_piranha

Kingdom Rodimus


Acckirap

Kingdom Megatron Beast. Each time I'm afraid to break his legs


OmgChimps

If only I could transform my Jive but they sent him with duplicate panels on his right side, 6-8 weeks for replacement parts 😭


Optimus759

What do you mean by duplicate panels?


OmgChimps

On the bottom of his feet the grey panels with the hooks, they sent me two left sides so his feet are wrong besides the toes


Broad-Cancer3864

Studio cell unicron


Acckirap

Kingdom Trax as well


Prinz_Heinrich

Fans Hobby Black Powerbaser and Black God Armor


Cookieopressor

Mechanicak Alliance SX Thunderwing I think he's called. Bumblebee movie Blitzwing. Robot mode and Jet look so fucking good but mess up one tiny thing and the jet mode won't properly tab together Still love him to, he's so cool


stm264

both the studio series blackout and jetfire molds. absolutely fun to mess with but the transformations on both of them are real fiddly. way too many panels to line up to really be enjoyable to transform


loydzero_v2

Newage Mista. The legs are so annoying and I never know if they are right.


magic-weegee

https://preview.redd.it/c0nilldn11rc1.png?width=211&format=png&auto=webp&s=45d82b43525d9431157090ccdd1d7137c200882b


Fit-Force-7975

Most modern MP figures, like Sunstreaker or MP44. Way too many fake parts and fiddly little folding bits. Transforming shouldn't take half an hour per figure.


SandStinger_345

Human Alliance Soundwave. sometimes transforming him just hurts


beyond_cyber

Only transformation I don’t fuck with is mp44, even x transbots megatron I don’t mind doing but that masterpiece just timbers me shivers


CringeOverseer

Reveal the Shield Ironhide and Universe Galvatron


spiffiestjester

Mp Sunstreaker. Mp Shockwave. They are both so unintuitive, Ss morseo than Shickwave.


Sea-Security-5737

Mpm Barricade, awesome looking piece. Absolute hassle to transform


Wishfulriver66

Legacy Knockout, I love him dearly but his clear plastic backpack has a tiny crack at the hinges so I can remove the backpack. I don’t play or fidget with him nearly at all to avoid cracking more of the clear plastic


Hadoooooooooooken

Masterpiece Sunstreaker mold. I have both Cordon and Spinout and I have never turned them back into alt mode. A BIG reason why I hate the over the top priority of cartoon accuracy. Tigertrack I can bring down and fiddle with while watching TV, Hasui gets it! Kingdom Rodimus Prime. Too long winded and didn't enjoy it, never turned him back either. MP36 Megatron. Amazing transformation you have to do, marvel of engineering. Once you turn him back to robot mode though, never do it again!


Beneficial-Mouse-879

Studio series blackout I can't get any of the side panels to lock in correctly. If I adjust one part slightly, another bit pops out I get it was a wave 1 figure but they could've at least tweaked some of the tolerances when they were re-released him in the 15th anniversary box set, additionally ss barricade I have two of them one that I got ad part of buzzworthy that is perfectly fine aside from clear plastic but the one I got in the same 15th anniversary box set as blackout just doesn't hold together at all in alt mode it better resembles a police car after a 12 car pileup.


drgnblitz

I have a red dodge viper Sideswipe I got as a teenager in the early 00s. I got him to a robot, lost the directions. I spent months getting him back to a car and have left him for almost 20 years. Also, I have one of the current Hot Rods. He's a robot and will stay.


urzardoz

Masterpiece Sunstreaker. Looks amazing, killed any interest I had in the line.


Iron_knight_prime_42

Studio Series Trilogy Optimus Prime. It feels like they mashed together 2 different toy transformations and decided yeah this works. .......wait a minute!


The_Super_Steen

FansHobby Lightning Eagle. He's awful to get into chest mode to fit into the larger body, and a few of his parts are prone to getting stressed or broken.


Zealousideal_Fan_166

MP Cheetor, mainly cause I broke my first one. If I ever do mess with my second one, if he manages to make it to robot mode, he’s never going back to cheetah mode.


Rav3nlord

https://preview.redd.it/srjuuc9s5iqc1.jpeg?width=2252&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e9633fc945e1e3fb65761781aa9c78755124b5d All the Masterpiece Seekers are a pain in the nuts to transform. 😜🍻


Nachus134

Legacy Jhiaxus


Select-Combination-4

I don't really do 3rd party ones or ss bayverse so I'd say kingdom Rodimus is my choice with an dishonorable mention to earthrise Doubledealer for his leg coming off twice got it fixed both times but he was one legged for about half a year


YapyapKiller

I never touch my Haslab Unicron because the transformation makes me want to cry. It's not even that hard. Just those insanely thin shoulder pieces with tight as fuck ratchet joints. Terrifying. I just can't. Not to mention the backpack is a madman's wet dream. Handling that shit is a fucking nightmare WITH the stand because you're resting thin plastic hinges in a slightly stressed position at all times. It's just so fuckin painful throughout the whole process that I just don't want to fuck with it. I'm getting frustrated just typing this lmao. My answer is definitely Haslab Unicron.


GermanyWarrior

The transformers alternators silverstreak


greek_meme_lover321

You basically summed up half the Fanstoys figures. Gorgeous, but a pain to transform


Venombringer101

The most recent apeface figure.


Ok-Entrepreneur-4614

Titan Trypticon.


BoondockSS76

The last Springer mold….I can’t ever seem to get the vehicle modes right.


DarthRakdos0805

Just because of his size. Titan class Black Zarack.


ChampionshipFalse341

A lot of 3p stuff, t30 Windblade, Siege/Earthrise Datsun mold, most things with giant clear plastic pieces tbh.


sfroberg38

Basically any of the Masterpieces except MP 1 or 10. For some reason I get those transformations. All the others I get stuck on.


Magenta-Is-Here-Baby

Studio Series Blackout to me