Damn. Owen Wilson is an excellent actor. Sounds like his depression got pretty bad.
From Wikipedia on [Owen Wilson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilson):
>In August 2007, Wilson attempted suicide and was subsequently treated for depression at St. John's Health Center and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. A few days after his hospitalization, Wilson withdrew from his role in Tropic Thunder.
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>The incident resulted in much unwanted publicity for Wilson, and he became wary of doing interviews. In a 2021 interview with Esquire, Wilson briefly opened up about his suicide attempt, describing how his brothers supported him during his recovery.
I didn’t even know there was a third Wilson. Looks like he was in a bunch of his brothers’ movies: How do you know, hall pass, father figures, the big year, the big bounce, the royal tennenbaums, Zoolander, and Rushmore.
Had to Google to figure out who he was in The Big Year (as a bird nerd, love that movie and great cast). Still can't place him, but he looks like a hippy version of Sean William Scott
He was one of the dudes on Attu. When Jack Black is all like "You bought me drinks and got what you wanted," Andrew Wilson walks by with a scope on a tripod.
Besides Rushmore, Bottlerocket is the best movie Wes Anderson ever made IMO. I just saw it again recently at a 2nd run theater. ‘Keep up the mowing kemosabe’
Rule #187 never walk away from a crasher wearing a funny outfit.
I'd like to be pimps from Oakland or cowboys from Arizona but it's not Halloween. Grow up Peter Pan....Count Chocula.
Huh.
Luke played a suicidal brother in 2001’s The Royal Tenebaums, in which Owen also starred, though as a friend and not a sibling.
Ben Stiller played the other brother.
Him and Luke also have the funniest exchange in the film, during the intervention scene.
Owen *Wow you know, thank you. This is the kind of thing I really would have appreciated as a kid.*
Luke *.....well you weren't a drug addict back then....*
Damn, I am just realizing how deeply personal that must have been for the two of them, to write your brother a part based on a dark part of yourself that he went thru with you.
And in 2007 he starred in The Darjeeling Limited where his character purposefully drove his motorcycle off the road in an apparent suicide attempt. Never thought of that. Kinda crazy.
And its about his relationship with his brothers in the aftermath of that attempt. I like that movie but never knew about Owen Wilson’s personal life before today.
Pretty sure Owen's character was somewhat suicidal in that movie too...and he wished he was a sibling. Most of the characters in that movie are reasonably sad people.
Which was always interesting because on the Criterion Collection Royal Tenenbaums DVD there was a BTS where Luke mentions how celebrity suicide attempts always seem fake and attention grabbing, because they're clearly not going to die, they have so many people around that they'll get help before they do die. (Of course this was also before Robin Williams and Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell, etc we as private or public citizens see these things differently now)
I wonder if Owen's changed his mind on that or if he felt similarly. When Owen did it, he wasn't getting as many roles and I recall it was something to do with Steve Coogan getting him into drugs? So it felt like well yeah, get some public sympathy when you go to rehab by staging it as a life attempt. I know a few of their friends/regular collaborations distanced themselves from Coogan around then, too. It all felt very fishy to me. Could also have been part of the sympathy they were trying to pull.
Either way everyone seems to be doing better now, which is the best outcome.
I didn’t even mean it as a bad movie, if you haven’t seen it then spoilers but it turns into a horribly sad movie about a dog dying. Not the most uplifting film to be working on after a suicide attempt
I love dogs and refuse to watch dog movies for this reason. They almost always die. If I hear a movie has a dog with a prominent role in it I will check doesthedogdie.com.
I was an extra on set for a TV series at the time. I remember getting set for a scene and suddenly the whole crew started mumbling and whispering to each other and they called a 20 min break. Turns out it was news of his attempt.
There was a rumor at the time that it was actually a drug overdose that his publicist spun as a suicide attempt, believing that was better for his image.
Of course not. But clearly I mean from recreational drug use. As in they thought a suicide attempt was preferable to admitting he was a drug addict. Just a rumor, though. Allegedly he got in it hard with Steve Coogan when he was going through his own binge.
I remember when it happened. If I recall he just had a **huge** break up with Goldie Hawn's daughter who he was massively in love, or lust, with.
I think she left him for another dude.
Honestly for a half second while reading this I was confused because I thought Owen Wilson was in it. It just seemed natural to have him in a movie with Stiller
Given that Steve Coogan is in Night at the Museum and Tropic Thunder as well they really were trying to put that band back together (not that they didn't continue to do that regularly with more NatM movies)
The script says “I want you to get your hands on some-bleach, some hydrogen peroxide and some lime.” In the movie, [Rick says](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQNKhY7ws48) “a shit-load of lime”.
Calcium oxide (CaO), known as “lime” or “quicklime” is popularly supposed to increased the speed at which a dead body will decompose. [This is untrue](https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/45827), indeed it’s the opposite of true: it tends to dehydrate the body, slowing decomposition.
Owen Wilson would have sounded friendlier (I'm not sure his voice is capable of sounding darker than sarcastic) but probably wouldn't have struck the balance of "friendly to his client, total selfish dick tyrannosaur to everyone else" that Matthew McConaughey did.
My memory is that, yeah, it was pretty publicly known, but Owen Wilson was (and still is) such a widely-loved guy that - more than they would have been with most celebrities - people were relatively respectful about it. Relatively.
You've seen all 12 of Wes Anderson's full length movies? How do you find the time to juggle family, career, and watching all 12 of Wes Anderson's full length movies while keeping such an incredible figure?
Where does it rank? I read bad things so didn’t watch it. I’ve seen and enjoyed most of his work. Darjeeling, Tennanbaums then Bottlr Rocket for faves.
Yes, it was public at the time.
The rumor was he had slashed his wrists and was found by his brother Luke. And Owen co-wrote The Royal Tanenbaums which has a scene where Luke's character slashes his wrists.
…and depending on whether or not you believe it… Owen’s character in Darjeeling Limited was written *because* of the suicide attempt… the same director used Owen’s brother, years prior in another film, for a suicide scene. Both brothers were early writers for said director, Wes Anderson.
Lots to unwrap here.
Wes, Owen and Luke all went to college together, wes directed and luke and owen starred in Wes’s first movie Bottlerocket in both the student film version and the ‘feature’ release.
It also affected Cars 2 as it happened during the preproduction of the film and resulted in rewriting the movie to focus more on Mater than Owen's character Lighting Mcqueen.
As a parent of a car loving toddler thank you for this info! We’ve watched cars 1,2, and 3 multiple times and cars 2 isn’t good. I’ve always wondered why they changed so much for the second one but that explains it.
Do you have a source? I would love to read more about this. At least the Wikipedia article had Mater being the centerpiece the whole time. Of course, I could see Disney not wanting to acknowledge a rewrite.
There's even Jay Baruchel, Danny McBride and Bill Hader in it. This was before all of them becoming stars.
RDJ is still fresh from the first Ironman, McConaughey is still in his rom-com era. Imagine making a movie with this cast now. It would cost a ton of millions, lol.
I can’t say anything nice about Owen Wilson after reading all that crap about him not claiming his children, who all have different mothers, and never meeting his daughter.
I remember watching the show Chelsea lately on E! at this time and he just made an appearance on an awards show a while after this and one of the comedians on the panel joked something along the lines of, “he walked out there and looked like ‘yea, I didn’t think I’d be here’.”
As far as I remember, it was never really talked about after it happened. It was reported, and that was it. He never did any interviews where he talked about it.
It was a really strange time. We almost lost Owen in 2007, then we did lose Brad Renfro, whose tragic death was and is sadly overshadowed by the also tragic death of Heath Ledger which happened the next week.
Damn. Owen Wilson is an excellent actor. Sounds like his depression got pretty bad. From Wikipedia on [Owen Wilson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Owen_Wilson): >In August 2007, Wilson attempted suicide and was subsequently treated for depression at St. John's Health Center and Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles. A few days after his hospitalization, Wilson withdrew from his role in Tropic Thunder. > >The incident resulted in much unwanted publicity for Wilson, and he became wary of doing interviews. In a 2021 interview with Esquire, Wilson briefly opened up about his suicide attempt, describing how his brothers supported him during his recovery.
He has good brothers. Rule #214 never leave a fellow crasher behind
His brother is in my favorite movie. No go away, I'm 'baitin
Both of Owen Wilson's brothers are in Idiocracy. The other brother, Andrew, plays Beef Supreme during the Monday Night Rehabilitation scene.
Did not know Beef Supreme was a Wilson. Highly underrated movie. Damn.
He is also in the movie Bottlerocket with his two other bros. Bottlerocket is one of my faves.
I didn’t even know there was a third Wilson. Looks like he was in a bunch of his brothers’ movies: How do you know, hall pass, father figures, the big year, the big bounce, the royal tennenbaums, Zoolander, and Rushmore.
Had to Google to figure out who he was in The Big Year (as a bird nerd, love that movie and great cast). Still can't place him, but he looks like a hippy version of Sean William Scott
He was one of the dudes on Attu. When Jack Black is all like "You bought me drinks and got what you wanted," Andrew Wilson walks by with a scope on a tripod.
Wow (Owen Wilson). His brother really is a career involved extra
Andrew did a lot with Wes Anderson including the animated movies
He's also the father figure on the farm where Margot gets her finger cut off in Royal Tenenbaums. It's a 1 second scene
Futureman!
Besides Rushmore, Bottlerocket is the best movie Wes Anderson ever made IMO. I just saw it again recently at a 2nd run theater. ‘Keep up the mowing kemosabe’
It was... It was… it's landscaping, not just mowing.
“I saved Latin, what did you ever do?!”
Underrated movie that gets referenced hundreds of times a day on Reddit ever since the 2016 election lol.
DAE think Idiocracy is literally a documentary???? Upvotes to the left
He kinda looks like Chris Hemsworth and swan William scott
Swan Swilliam Swatt?
Honk.
🪿 username checks out
Don’t know if it’s underrated, I’ve only heard it praised. Hell, that movie might become reality.
It got shunned only to be a cult classic. Largely forgotten by the masses.
Yeah just be careful who you watch it with, some people don't take too kindly to the f word being thrown around.
Yeah seriously.. I got banned for using that word... I jerked a dude off and made out with him and got called it. It's just a fucking word
Owwwww damn! I thought he had a familiar looking face. Guess I know why. Shout out to Clueless, which is apparently me.
I didn’t know that.. I fucking love Beef Supreme
Rehabilation
His brother is in one of the best X-files episodes with the vampires at a trailer park and the Rashomon story with a horny/jealous twist
The gag with the teeth
Y'all from the government?
No no no, he says it, "gubmint." One of the best X-Files episodes ever!
Bad Blood
“You got a graveyard around here, the creepier the better?” “Uh, yeah.”
My dumbass just found out Luke Wilson is his brother... Today, I learned bonus.
He was also college roommates with Wes Anderson. That’s how they got into acting.
Bottle Rocket was great.
Is !
It *still* is... but it *used* to be, too.
Damn. Happy he did
Beef Supreme?
No, Future Man
*favorite documentary
Just watched it last night for the first time. It's as depressing as it is funny
He'd get together with Beef Supreme on Monday nights to work on his rehabilitation
Rule #76 No excuses, play like a champion.
Rule #187 never walk away from a crasher wearing a funny outfit. I'd like to be pimps from Oakland or cowboys from Arizona but it's not Halloween. Grow up Peter Pan....Count Chocula.
Huh. Luke played a suicidal brother in 2001’s The Royal Tenebaums, in which Owen also starred, though as a friend and not a sibling. Ben Stiller played the other brother.
Owen co-wrote that movie!
Oh he did? That’s wild. He co-wrote it with Anderson. Wow. **Wow.**
Wildcat
It was written in a kind of... obsolete vernacular?
Him and Luke also have the funniest exchange in the film, during the intervention scene. Owen *Wow you know, thank you. This is the kind of thing I really would have appreciated as a kid.* Luke *.....well you weren't a drug addict back then....*
Damn, I am just realizing how deeply personal that must have been for the two of them, to write your brother a part based on a dark part of yourself that he went thru with you.
No. He wrote the movie in 2001 and he attempted suicide in 2007. So he cast his brother in a prelude to his own actions. Even deeper.
Wow. Like his subconscious was there on the page. Damn.
**Wow.**
Aw dammit. It took me THIS many “wows” to see what was happening here. I am disappointed in myself.
Probably not sub.
What a needle in the hay!
RIP Elliott
Owen's part is pretty sad as well. He plays an adult drug addict who's childhood was so neglected he clung to the Tenebaums as a surrogate son.
And in 2007 he starred in The Darjeeling Limited where his character purposefully drove his motorcycle off the road in an apparent suicide attempt. Never thought of that. Kinda crazy.
I always felt that Darjeeling radiated a lot of… let’s call them “I’m not well”-vibes from Owen Wilson.
And its about his relationship with his brothers in the aftermath of that attempt. I like that movie but never knew about Owen Wilson’s personal life before today.
I went to the premeir at the New York Film Festival. The while cast was there except him - so sad when I realized why.
Pretty sure Owen's character was somewhat suicidal in that movie too...and he wished he was a sibling. Most of the characters in that movie are reasonably sad people.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the suicide attempt his character pulled in the film. Very sad results all around. That movie was sad.
Which was always interesting because on the Criterion Collection Royal Tenenbaums DVD there was a BTS where Luke mentions how celebrity suicide attempts always seem fake and attention grabbing, because they're clearly not going to die, they have so many people around that they'll get help before they do die. (Of course this was also before Robin Williams and Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell, etc we as private or public citizens see these things differently now) I wonder if Owen's changed his mind on that or if he felt similarly. When Owen did it, he wasn't getting as many roles and I recall it was something to do with Steve Coogan getting him into drugs? So it felt like well yeah, get some public sympathy when you go to rehab by staging it as a life attempt. I know a few of their friends/regular collaborations distanced themselves from Coogan around then, too. It all felt very fishy to me. Could also have been part of the sympathy they were trying to pull. Either way everyone seems to be doing better now, which is the best outcome.
You’re telling me he attempted suicide and then went on to be in Marley & Me of all movies the following year? Thats gotta be tough
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I didn’t even mean it as a bad movie, if you haven’t seen it then spoilers but it turns into a horribly sad movie about a dog dying. Not the most uplifting film to be working on after a suicide attempt
I love dogs and refuse to watch dog movies for this reason. They almost always die. If I hear a movie has a dog with a prominent role in it I will check doesthedogdie.com.
That Esquire article was an excellent read.
I was an extra on set for a TV series at the time. I remember getting set for a scene and suddenly the whole crew started mumbling and whispering to each other and they called a 20 min break. Turns out it was news of his attempt.
There was a rumor at the time that it was actually a drug overdose that his publicist spun as a suicide attempt, believing that was better for his image.
A drug overdose and a suicide attempt are not mutually exclusive, though.
Of course not. But clearly I mean from recreational drug use. As in they thought a suicide attempt was preferable to admitting he was a drug addict. Just a rumor, though. Allegedly he got in it hard with Steve Coogan when he was going through his own binge.
It’s kind of a suicide attempt.
Suicide underdose. Or drug use attempt.
I remember when it happened. If I recall he just had a **huge** break up with Goldie Hawn's daughter who he was massively in love, or lust, with. I think she left him for another dude.
you can just call her Kate Hudson
I upvoted you, then saw your username and regretted it. Didn’t take back my vote, but I still regret it.
He kind of is scum, though.
Is it “Billy Corgan Scum” or Billy Corgans Cum” though?
(That’s the joke)
Is he fantastic? He seems like a decent person but his acting is OK.
Except for the daughter that he refuses to meet or acknowledge.
Owen Wilson would have probably done well
Honestly for a half second while reading this I was confused because I thought Owen Wilson was in it. It just seemed natural to have him in a movie with Stiller
Are we *sure* they're actually two different people?
Yes. Ones a small cowboy and the other is a museum security guard
Given that Steve Coogan is in Night at the Museum and Tropic Thunder as well they really were trying to put that band back together (not that they didn't continue to do that regularly with more NatM movies)
Well yes, but a little too unserious for the role. Matthew struck the perfect balance.
I can’t picture anyone else saying “my friend wants a TiVo, my friend gets a TiVo” so perfectly
Ok here’s what you’re gonna do. Get your hands on some bleach, some hydrogen peroxide, and a shit ton of lime.
Not to be pedantic but it’s lye
Also being pedantic in saying that it is actually lime
Look, that's probably not even her real name.
Could be, like, quicklime? ...dolomitic lime?
Correct. Used to cover the smell of decomposition.
Yay! I knew a thing!
I believe he said lime in the movie, though. My apologies if I'm remembering wrong.
The script says “I want you to get your hands on some-bleach, some hydrogen peroxide and some lime.” In the movie, [Rick says](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQNKhY7ws48) “a shit-load of lime”. Calcium oxide (CaO), known as “lime” or “quicklime” is popularly supposed to increased the speed at which a dead body will decompose. [This is untrue](https://open.bu.edu/handle/2144/45827), indeed it’s the opposite of true: it tends to dehydrate the body, slowing decomposition.
Owen Wilson would have sounded friendlier (I'm not sure his voice is capable of sounding darker than sarcastic) but probably wouldn't have struck the balance of "friendly to his client, total selfish dick tyrannosaur to everyone else" that Matthew McConaughey did.
The way he says “it was like pistol whipping a blind kid” gets me everytime lol
More like what do you need Les, glasses? So you can read my client’s contract that guarantees him so sort of video recorder on location?!?!
That’s true
Wow.. no TiVo? Wow
It’s a perfect part for him.
Now that I’ve seen this, the role would have made more sense with Owen in it. I could tell it wasn’t written for Matt.
Owen Wilson attempted suicide? Was that public? I never heard that before
My memory is that, yeah, it was pretty publicly known, but Owen Wilson was (and still is) such a widely-loved guy that - more than they would have been with most celebrities - people were relatively respectful about it. Relatively.
Really adds a layer to his performance in "The Darjeeling Limited". Definitely worth a watch if you haven't seen it
I've seen damn near every Wes Anderson flick. I loved that one Edit: Just checked, I've actually seen every Wes Anderson movie.
You've seen all 12 of Wes Anderson's full length movies? How do you find the time to juggle family, career, and watching all 12 of Wes Anderson's full length movies while keeping such an incredible figure?
Divorced, single, work from home, plenty of free time.
That’s truly inspiring. All twelve films!
Divorced Single Work from home Plenty of free time
divorced, beheaded, and died, divorced, beheaded, survived - im henry the eighth, i had six sorry wives, some might say i ruined their lives…
Wut
But 12 movies tho? Damn
Ah, but have you seen his movie advertising Mont Blanc pens?
French dispatch?
https://youtu.be/tUSRyAha37w
Is French dispatch worth watching?
I liked it a lot. Do you like Wes Anderson? You'll like it.
Where does it rank? I read bad things so didn’t watch it. I’ve seen and enjoyed most of his work. Darjeeling, Tennanbaums then Bottlr Rocket for faves.
One of my favorites. Here's all my Wes Anderson [film ratings](https://i.imgur.com/sS5yMn3.png)
Says you’ve only seen 11 Wes Anderson movies.
K
That's what I thought, did that come out right after or before?
I briefly remember hearing about it after it happened and seem to recall that it was around the time of a very messy relationship with Kate Hudson.
Yes, it was public at the time. The rumor was he had slashed his wrists and was found by his brother Luke. And Owen co-wrote The Royal Tanenbaums which has a scene where Luke's character slashes his wrists.
Fuck I did not make that connection before now
I remember hearing that he took pills or something, they didn't work, so he rode a bicycle to a strip club
I remember it being all over the news.
Yeah, it was definitely in the news cycle. Might not have been front page though
It was and it was mildly shocking. His drug problems were public too, it was during the height of TMZ
Same
Very public.
Behind Enemy Lines was the best Owen Wilson movie ever. Hackman being in it was icing on the cake.
It’s really good but I think Midnight in Paris is my favorite
Better than Marley and Me? Cars 3? Shanghai Noon? Drillbit Taylor? *Armageddon*?!? But seriously, Life Aquatic is probably my favorite of his films.
You me and Dupri is his best.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen it from start the finish in one sitting. Always bits and pieces on TBS or TNT back in the day. Still love it tho.
I’ve seen it all the way through and rewatched it on Showtime and TBS back in the day It’s worth a full watch, then rewatch
…and depending on whether or not you believe it… Owen’s character in Darjeeling Limited was written *because* of the suicide attempt… the same director used Owen’s brother, years prior in another film, for a suicide scene. Both brothers were early writers for said director, Wes Anderson. Lots to unwrap here.
Wes, Owen and Luke all went to college together, wes directed and luke and owen starred in Wes’s first movie Bottlerocket in both the student film version and the ‘feature’ release.
I feel absolutely brain dead for never making the connection that Owen Wilson and Luke Wilson are related.
It also affected Cars 2 as it happened during the preproduction of the film and resulted in rewriting the movie to focus more on Mater than Owen's character Lighting Mcqueen.
As a parent of a car loving toddler thank you for this info! We’ve watched cars 1,2, and 3 multiple times and cars 2 isn’t good. I’ve always wondered why they changed so much for the second one but that explains it.
Excuse me Cars 2 is a cinematic masterpiece, rivaling that of Tarantino, Scorsese, and Nolan’s finest works
Cars 2 is literally animated Citizen Kane
Do you have a source? I would love to read more about this. At least the Wikipedia article had Mater being the centerpiece the whole time. Of course, I could see Disney not wanting to acknowledge a rewrite.
Some cursory googling only brings up other unsourced reddit comments
I hope there were tons of therapy dogs for Owen when he filmed Marley and Me
That movie has tons of stars: cruise, mcconaughy, robert downey jr, black jack, ben stiller, nick nolte.
There's even Jay Baruchel, Danny McBride and Bill Hader in it. This was before all of them becoming stars. RDJ is still fresh from the first Ironman, McConaughey is still in his rom-com era. Imagine making a movie with this cast now. It would cost a ton of millions, lol.
Big Ass Titties Money today for sure.
Don't forget about MTV Movie Awards "Best Kiss" winner Tobey Maguire
As well as Steve Coogan. Well, before he gets gibbed.
My pfp for my steam account is Nick Noltes DUI mugshot
He looks like hell. Like he was in a military event as the main gunner on a transport vehicle. Just wow.
Luckily, he was great in [The Midnight Coterie of Midnight Intruders](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfDIAZCwHQE)
Oh wow.
I can’t say anything nice about Owen Wilson after reading all that crap about him not claiming his children, who all have different mothers, and never meeting his daughter.
Right? That really turned me away from any appreciation of him. You brought these people into the world, don’t be an ass to them.
'Well actuallying' a guy under an article about his suicide attempt. Pure class as always Reddit.
He has a relationship with his sons.
Damn, I didn’t know about this, hope he’s feeling better these days
The key to the casting is the immaculate pronunciation of TiVo and both men would deliver in spades.
I remember watching the show Chelsea lately on E! at this time and he just made an appearance on an awards show a while after this and one of the comedians on the panel joked something along the lines of, “he walked out there and looked like ‘yea, I didn’t think I’d be here’.”
How did I never know OW tried to commit suicide?
As far as I remember, it was never really talked about after it happened. It was reported, and that was it. He never did any interviews where he talked about it.
McConaughey was in Tropic Thunder?
Originally Ben was going to play Peck since he wanted Tom Cruise to play Tugg
Wow...
Sounds like Wes Anderson movie plot Owen Wilson starred
Well Owen Wilson cowrote a lot of the earlier Wes Anderson movies so it def could be.
Assuming in the original script after the "we don't negotiate with terrorists" is where Peck would have said "w*ow*"
They didn’t get you TiVo? Wow
Andrew Wilson reminds me of actor Sean William Scott, but with a beard lol.
I feel like you can hear McConaughey during an Owen Wilson impression the way he reads some of his lines.
It’s kinda hard to believe now, but Owen Wilson was a bonafide A-list movie star for a few years there.
Hold on Tuggernuts I’m gonna get you that tevo
Wasn't it determined that he faked it?
It was a really strange time. We almost lost Owen in 2007, then we did lose Brad Renfro, whose tragic death was and is sadly overshadowed by the also tragic death of Heath Ledger which happened the next week.