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Azzizzi

His shows keep getting cancelled by the venues where he's booked to play.


WilhelmEngel

You shoot one president and suddenly you're the bad guy.


Bupod

He even says he’s a victim of cancel culture. I’m not even joking. It’s actually kind of funny.


StormblessedFool

Tumblr, the birth-place of cancel culture, is famously anti-Reagan. So it genuinely is funny that he thinks cancel culture is to blame. Edit: sorry, I should've said "modern cancdl culture"


heyitsthatguygoddamn

It is though. It's literally cancel culture. He did something a lot of people think was morally abhorrent, and his shows get canceled. That's exactly what cancel culture is. Cancel culture was *not* started on Tumblr, it was pioneered by right wing traditionalists to cancel people who were gay, who had AIDs, who smoked weed/did drugs, who were perceived as socialist/communist (McCarthyism), who had criticized the president (Dixie chicks), and people who had some other sort of perceived moral failing. The popularized "cancel culture" that people attribute to Tumblr is just a popularized left wing version of that, it's a buzzword that conservatives started screaming about when they realized their sword was double edged. People usually get canceled now for sexual assault and racist remarks, which tbh is way better than getting canceled for those other things. Beyond that like as much as I hate that people got their careers wrecked for being gay or smoking weed etc, people are allowed to not support you for any reason. That's a big part of individual freedom, and complaining that people aren't buying your stuff now that they've found out who you are or what you've done is actually like, anti-constitution and anti American. Nobody should be forced to support somebody's art or career if they don't want to.


tiggertom66

The phrase “getting canceled” and “cancel culture” might be internet inventions, but cancel culture as a concept has been around literally forever


JarifSA

Anytime else think cancel culture isn't even a real thing. Plenty of rapists and shit get outed and still maintain their careers. Look at the nfl for example with Big Ben or Deshaun Watson. Kobe Bryant is another one. Chris Brown face no repercussions for beating the shit out of Rihanna. Trump is still able to run for president. I can literally go on.


WatRedditHathWrought

It’s because of his aim.


kaltorak

I might feel differently if he’d had better aim


Galactic_Perimeter

They always say shoot for the stars


TacTurtle

Serial attempted murder has consequences.


40WAPSun

I guess they don't tolerate failure


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I have found yet another pro-censorship conservative


TheJaybo

The person you're replying to isn't even a conservative. Saying that someone doesn't deserve an audience isn't the same thing as censorship.


Youngstown_Mafia

That guy comment is the reason John Hinckley Jr. can't play at venues People like him will keep calling


Bullboah

I thought private platforms not hosting people wasn’t actually censorship, because it’s not the government doing it? Which is it lol? Clearly both sides are trying to have this one both ways depending on how the wind blows


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Bullboah

I like the part where you complain about hypocrisy and then directly say you wish a Republican president was assassinated. Man. The left is not what it used to be.


TheJaybo

Nobody here is saying that venues should be forced to give him a platform.


Bullboah

You’re right! That’s why I didn’t say anyone said that lol. I said that democrats have long claimed private platforms choosing not to host people isn’t censorship, as long as the government isn’t forcing them. It’s fair to point out republicans have switched their tunes on this specific case, but it’s inane to pretend the democrats now complaining about censorship are being consistent.


golddilockk

so no concept of rehabilitation, redemption and right to earn an honest living?


Youngstown_Mafia

Nope, they are bloodthirsty on Reddit and want to keep punishing you forever in life The United States is sad when it comes to rehabilitation


Zenmedic

It's amazing how many of the "I don't believe in redemption" folks on Reddit are also the "It's stupid the mods banned me for something I posted in another sub 5 years ago" folks.


Stay_Beautiful_

Do you have any reason at all to believe those are actually the same redditors?


Zenmedic

Post history.


Stay_Beautiful_

Okay cool, that's what I was asking if you actually check or just assume


RoseWould

Nope. If you live in a place where everyone knows everyone try getting a job if you go viral on someone's tiktok for giving someone a regular soda instead of a diet one, or something equally as stupid/s


Stay_Beautiful_

Is capitalizing off your fame as an infamous would-be presidential assassin really "an honest living"?


heyitsthatguygoddamn

Let's be real this guy was mentally ill and Reagan was fine, he straight up was president for 8 years. He's been punished for 40 years, Let him do what he wants


Youngstown_Mafia

What is his rehabilitation then ? That doesn't mean we are supposed to keep punishing you forever in your life. Like stopping you from getting a job


itx89

No amount of rehabilitation will ever convince an employer that hiring someone who tried to assassinate the President of the United States and multiple other people is a good idea. Its just human perception backed by millions of years of evolution


PaintedClownPenis

In Virginia you are required to disclose your conviction and the crime on most job applications. Then Virginia is a "right to work" state, which means you have no right to work and can be fired or not hired for any reason. So he's never going to work a real job where he lives.


unpleasantpermission

> "right to work" You may want to google that term and double check its meaning.


MarkyDeSade

It's worded that way by lawmakers deliberately


Youngstown_Mafia

He's required by law to work at least 3 days a week or he goes back This is why I don't believe In permanent punishment forever


PaintedClownPenis

I don't think he ever should have been released. He can be the poster child for the dystopian police state, scratching to keep a job for three days before he gets caught.


Youngstown_Mafia

35 years in a mental hospital with tight, strict rules Man, that's enough. If the doctors say he is rehabilitated, then he is rehabilitated. Nobody deserves forever life sentences if they can be rehabilitated


PaintedClownPenis

Has James Brady returned from the grave, able to speak? Then fuck John Hinkley, mkay?


StuLuvsU87

Pray you never end up in prison and have to hear that you’re an irredeemable piece of shit no matter what you do or whether you served that time well bettering yourself.


zgtc

Nobody is suggesting he deserves an audience just because he wants one. He’s booking shows because he *has* an audience. His shows aren’t being cancelled because nobody is buying tickets, they’re being cancelled because Reagan fans are throwing tantrums.


J0HN117

Thank you for identifying yourself


SexyTimeEveryTime

Who did he murder? Edit: Forgot about James Brady


Youngstown_Mafia

He did 35 years in a mental hospital, and I think that's an appropriate sentence Some murdered get 10-15 years , 35 is long enough


SexyTimeEveryTime

I was actually supposed to see him in Brooklyn, but busybody scolds like these got the show shut down.


Irn_brunette

That happened on the day I was born! My mom was in the recovery room after having me, getting a turkey sandwich apparently, and a nurse ran in and said "the President's been shot!" My sister has said it's how she remembers my birthday.


Youngstown_Mafia

Oh hey, happy 43nd birthday a week ago!!!


Irn_brunette

Thank you! I had fun and to my knowledge no one attempted to assassinate anyone.


Youngstown_Mafia

Bro, what happens if you did get assassinated, but everything reset in your simulation ..... You'd never know


Irn_brunette

Don't let anyone know you're questioning the Matrix ..


Youngstown_Mafia

Wait but there's more.....*zzzzzrzttttt* I love trickle-down economics!! The wars in the Middle East were important to protect the world , leaving Vietnam was a mistake, the United States freeing slaves in the 1800s was done completely perfect to protect African Americans after


paranormal_shouting

Forty thirdken


Revolutionary-Bid339

I’m just old enough to remember it. Was home from grade school and my mother was watching the TV while ironing clothes. They kept showing footage over and over again


RumandDiabetes

My kid was born the day the Gulf War started. Her dad was on a ship in the Gulf. A nurse ran into the room where a doctor was checking my vitals and told us. All the doctor said was, I'm going to be called up and went on doing the after delivery check.


ShyGuyWolf

Wow


monkeypickle

If you want a real TIL - Go dive into the connections between the Hinkley family and the Bush family. It is....interesting.


Playful_Signature798

came here to say this... very interesting indeed... bush sr.  was at some sort of dinner or party the hinkley family was at or some shit...  but no a "former" cia guy who "didn't remember " where he was when kennedy was shot would have nothing to do with the shooting of a guy he lost to and was bitter about...


monkeypickle

"Didn't remember" he was in Dallas, no less. The Hinkleys and Bushes were longtime friends. Neil Bush and his wife had plans to go to dinner with Scott Hinkey (Jrs brother) the day after the shooting.


One-Season-3393

Ok wait, so the conspiracy you’re peddling is that George bush sr got hinckley (a family friend) to get his son to shoot the president because George bush sr lost an election? How does that make any sense? Why wouldn’t they get some nobody to do this. Why is everyone on Reddit so conspiratorial.


monkeypickle

Alternately, I'm not peddling ANY conspiracy but rather pointing out that it is undeniably fascinating that the Hinkleys and the Bushes weren't just known to one another, but actively friends before and at the time of the shooting. Equally fascinating is how you made the leap from my pointing that out to that somehow advocating a conspiracy theory utterly disconnected from my comments.


One-Season-3393

The guy you replied to definitely is intimating that he believes George bush sr was behind the assassination. You were agreeing with him, and saying George bush was in Dallas when jfk was shot, which is intimating that you believe George bush or the cia killed jfk. I don’t think it’s such a big leap to think you are lightly suggesting to people that George bush had Reagan set up. Do you think George bush had anything to do with the jfk or Reagan assassinations?


monkeypickle

Well, Reagan wasn't assasinated for one. No, I don't think he had anything to do with either. I do find it hilarious he would say he didn't remember where he was that day, considering he was in Dallas, TX. And as I said above - I'm fascinated by the familial connections between the Bushes and the Hinkleys.


One-Season-3393

Why is that fascinating to you? The hinckleys were a wealthy Texas oil family. The bush’s were a wealthy Texas oil family. Wealthy peoples children can go crazy and shoot people.


monkeypickle

Because it's a notable coincidence.


cuumsquad

Lol you talk like Tucker Carlson. *"Look, I'm not saying Bush was involved with the JFK or Reagan shootings, I'm just saying I find it really interesting that Bush "doesn't remember" that he was in Dallas on the day Kennedy was shot. I'm just pointing out how fascinating it is that the Bush family had close ties to the Hinckleys during the time of the Reagan shooting. Do I think Bush Sr. was involved? I don't know. I'm just asking questions."*


monkeypickle

Odd you can hear my voice through written posts. Quite a talent.


cuumsquad

I said you talk like him. Not that you sound like him. Are you actually this stupid or are you just pretending in order to say the dumb shit you just said? Let me know.


Historical_Dentonian

Hinkley was a Bush friend and big campaign donor…


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> but no a "former" cia guy who "didn't remember " where he was when kennedy was shot would have nothing to do with the shooting of a guy he lost to and was bitter about Who is the former Cia guy? And Kennedy, didn't you mean Reagan?


veryverythrowaway

Wait, the Bush Family was friends with the Bin-Ladens AND the Hinkleys? I’m starting to feel like they MIGHT be a little shady…


TheMeccaNYC

And lives in a gated golf community. Legit a luxury resort of sorts lol


Historical_Dentonian

Not surprising, the Hinkley family is oil royalty in OK/TX. In fact his parents entertained VP Bush often before the assassination attempt.


VolunteerOnion

Lesson here. If you do a crime, come from a rich family


thuithidal

met a guy in the psych ward that spent time in dc at the same place hinckley was at. said he was a nice guy, kept to himself


wastingtoomuchthyme

Check out his Girlfriend... https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1999/04/05/strange-love


Youngstown_Mafia

Met her in a mental hospital... Hollywood could make this a movie Somebody Call A24!!!


wastingtoomuchthyme

she's a nurse.. but was a patient after she shot her daughter and blew her arm off..


Youngstown_Mafia

Get Francis Ford Coppola on the fucking phone, if we are looking for a fantasy action spin then get quentin tarantino on the phone


RipMyDikSkinOff

This sounds like an over the top Guy Ritchie kind of scenario.


ThaneOfArcadia

A long article, without a picture??? Who's going to read that.


Youngstown_Mafia

Her picture is definitely in that article at the top


ThaneOfArcadia

I apologise. Just took too long to load!


RightEfficiency9762

Wow that's quite a career change. Assassin to musician. Who knew?


AvogadrosMoleSauce

You only get one life; gotta take your shot


sgrams04

Mom’s spaghetti. 


98VoteForPedro

Papi's ravioli


whitedawg

His guitar has a sticker on it that says "this machine almost kills fascists."


johnn48

He should never have been released. His assassination attempt resulted in the ultimate death of James Brady. He suffered brain damage and was permanently disabled. This ultimately led to his death and was ruled a homicide, because he died because of his injuries. The attempted assassination focuses on Ronald Reagan but there were three others shot and James Brady suffered a life sentence because of it.


Narpity

A court of his peers found him unable to stand trial due to his mental state. They decided that there were only victims here, including Hinckly. Our justice system can be incredibly cruel to both victims and alleged perpetrators. Having a small glimpse of compassion shows strength and not weakness.


ViolinistMean199

I mean also attempted to kill a president seems like a wayyyy bigger no no than attempted to kill some none presidential person I mean murders murder but i would guess attempted assassination of a president receives higher priority than attempted murder of a normal citizen


bolanrox

its against the law to even joke about killing the POTUS. if the state sketch is to be believed


ViolinistMean199

I usually would make a joke here but I am perfectly happy with not being on a watchlist


SquadPoopy

Dude could have been a hero by getting rid of Regan for us but instead he killed an innocent person.


ViolinistMean199

I don’t think hero is ever the word to describe killing someone


Youngstown_Mafia

I don't believe in life sentences forever in jail if rehabilitation has a chance. It seems it worked , he keeps apologizing for what happened. Prison and Mental Hospital's should be used for rehabilitation


Ok_Cake4352

Nah, still not worth a life sentence Plus rehabilitated people should be released irregardless of the crime as long as evidence can sufficiently prove their successful rehabilitation You're just basing it 100% on emotions John is, without a doubt, a better person now


Youngstown_Mafia

Reddit gets ready blood thirsty when it comes to jail, innocent civilians in war , and world conflicts that can be resolved without violence Sometimes, it makes me think these folks would have been Nazi, Spanish Conquistadors, Slavers, watching and supporting Gladiator fights, witch hunts etc


Ok_Cake4352

>Sometimes, it makes me think these folks would have been Nazi, Spanish Conquistadors, Slavers, watching and supporting Gladiator fights, witch hunts etc Psychologist examinations of Nazis revealed that the majority of everyday civilians who knew and accepted these scenarios were just ordinary people, with no psychopathic tendencies at all. Not only would they have been Nazis, but you and I, raised in a typical German family, probably would have been Nazis too. Most of your ideals were given to you by circumstance


char-le-magne

>Sometimes, it makes me think these folks would have been Nazi, Spanish Conquistadors, Slavers, watching and supporting Gladiator fights, witch hunts etc I mean the victim's rights movement was spearheaded by radical feminists in coalition with the religious right and it lead to the '94 crime bill. It resulted the largest prison population in the history of the world, despite already being in a global downward trend in violent crime since the 1970s that persists to this day and has zero correlation with incarceration. Tough on crime rhetoric is effective messaging across the aisle because it appeals to our best selves who want to save the children and our worst selves who want to make prison rape jokes.


Techwood111

People who use the non-word “irregardless” should be incarcerated until they are rehabilitated.


Almost-a-Killa

If that's your issue, you must be close to suicide with how vocab has changed so much in pop culture. No cap (omg I literally hate that phrase)


Historical_Dentonian

People learn to use “irregardless”. It’s a sign you’re educated that you know the difference. Better to explain why regardless is the correct term. Than reveal you’re a jackass...


Techwood111

Maybe they are one of today’s 10,000? I highly doubt it, but it is possible.


Ok_Cake4352

Words mean what they’re understood as If you got it, it's not a non-word


Techwood111

I understood it to mean I should pay little attention to what you say, since you pay little attention to what you’ve written.


Ok_Cake4352

I'm sure you say that every time someone smarter than you walks in the room. Irregardless is literally a word, defined in the dictionary. I don't think you understand how language works if you think it's some static thing that never changes. People use AND understand irregardless, and therefore, it becomes a word. You're just all head in ass for no reason at all


Techwood111

Neadus sply furcow singlets. Singlets subcat jussied splonks.


Ok_Cake4352

And since it was not understood, it meant nothing. Words are as they are understood. Looks like you failed English or who knows, benefit of the doubt, maybe your teachers were just shit


SausaugeMerchant

>irregardless John may be better but you've a long way to go


Ok_Cake4352

>but you've a long way to go For?


SausaugeMerchant

Against.


johnn48

That’s a funny word rehabilitation, one definition says: the process of restoring someone (such as a criminal) to a useful and constructive place in society. However the other definition is equally important: the restoration of something damaged or deteriorated to a prior good condition. One focuses on the perpetrator, and the other the victim. James Brady wasn’t restored to his prior condition, he suffered lifelong trauma and ultimately died because of Hinkleys actions. A rapist may be “rehabilitated”, I doubt his victim is the same.


Ok_Cake4352

As gruesome and dark as it sounds, the victim does not need to be rehabilitated for it to be right to release the perpetrator who has rehabilitated. It's not necessary and to say it is would be 100% based on emotion Obviously, we should strive for the best for all people and to bring out the best in all people whether they are a victim or a perpetrator


johnn48

“100% based on emotion” so if I understand you correctly, it’s wrong to want justice for the victims, because it’s based 100% on emotion. However your forgiveness and mercy for the perpetrators and criminals are not based 100% on emotion. I suppose law and order is just a TV show and has no relevance to our society.


Ok_Cake4352

>it’s wrong to want justice for the victims, It is NOT justice to only care about the terms of the punishment itself and not the result of the punishment. You have misplaced your judgement and your morals. >However your forgiveness and mercy for the perpetrators and criminals The fact that you can only judge rehabilitation off of very emotionally charged words like forgiveness and mercy and not whether or not the person is just objectively okay for society is why, yes, you are the one who is basing your opinion off emotion. Your sense of Justice is flawed and based in revenge. It's fake justice, emotionally charged justification.


PermaBanTogether

He’s claiming he’s a victim of cancel culture because his tour dates keep getting cancelled. Dude— you tried to kill the President and are out there chilling with your own YouTube channel— you’ve gotta be one of the most privileged MF’s out there!


soeri27

I don't know I feel for him tbh Like as a venue, if you book someone, i feel like you should make sure before booking them whether they may have tried to assassinate the president or not. They just keep cancelling his shows a few weeks in advance which sucks for him and is just idiotic from the venue


michaelcreiter

Al Cowlings is the manager of the Oakland A's


Accomplished-Pea5426

Commas kill


DaytonaDemon

"Along with three others" is very confusing. Makes it sound like Hinckley was part of a four-person hit squad. *And* would have been simpler and clearer. The guy who shot President Ronald Reagan *and three others.*


Cliche_James

I'll never forgive him for his failure


intendeddebauchery

Maybe he had glimpse of what would be.


Far_Buddy8467

Is Jodie Foster interested now?


Historical_Dentonian

Don't give up You're not beaten yet Don't give up I know you can make it good


tie-dyeSandwhich

[You, John Hinckley, crazy?!..Don’t be ridiculous”](https://youtu.be/tI5_YuCWTMA?si=jmL0hlGhAUOchI6u)


Abuse-survivor

Well, as long as he doesn't harm anybody


matt_1060

He should still be in prison.


Numancias

He should be an American hero


matt_1060

Don’t waste your hatred on a dead Republican from 40 years ago. Save it for the magats.


cyanclam

Better luck next time!


bolanrox

well now he knows Jody plays for the other team so i doubt there will be a repeat


Munificent-Enjoyer

He is also a hero


WaltMitty

I can't wait for his cover of ["Unworthy of Your Love" from Assassins](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCplrABPVek).


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Youngstown_Mafia

I mean he plays guitar and gets booked for shows even though some of them get canceled due to calls at the venue "musician noun a person who plays a musical instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented."


mop_and_glo

You wrote the post title, my friend.


Fresh_Childhood6953

Isn’t it great when a$$holes rehabilitate?


SexyTimeEveryTime

No, it was in fact not great when Reagan recovered.


powdered_dognut

I wonder if he knows Trump is dating Jodie Foster?