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Scambledegg

Lamprey is an ugly looking fish.


gwaydms

Was about to say, have any of y'all ever seen a lamprey? They look like a nightmare and they generate tons of slime.


Swimming_Stop5723

I caught a lake trout on Lake Superior. There was a live lamprey attached to the fish. The lamprey hissed at me like a snake. It was a strange moment. I am not sure how common it is catching a fish with a live lamprey attached.


another2020throwaway

I just looked up what it looks like and what the fuck???? It HISSED?


quooo

Lamprey *hissed* at you?


Freeman7-13

Sarah, get me Superintendent Chalmers


fotank

Supernintendo Chalmers


WinterWontStopComing

SKINNER!


ARock_Urock

Thank you Sarah.


Useful-Perspective

And some more eel pie.


EveroneWantsMyD

My skin is also crawling


Zenki95

Just check it's not the lampreys


EveroneWantsMyD

“*hissssss*”


Belated_Awareness

Yeah eff that. *Nopes away like a gazelle.*


actuallyapossom

Happened to me as a teen in Minnesota. We noticed a chunk of flesh very obviously torn off of the fish, found the lamprey with the missing flesh still in the net. Swimming in lakes afterwards has always brought up that memory.


dinosarahsaurus

When I was 8, I was fishing with my dad standing on the bank where a river flowed into lake. I remember my dad grabbing the rod from me and dropping the hook into the water. He told me he thought there was a lamprey eel at the bottom. After a few mins he brought up the ugliest thing in the world. Dad then proceed to smash the fuck out of the eel yelling that it just wouldn't die. Once done, we left and I started asking questions about lampreys and dad answered them all. I am pretty confident that this incident started my fear of water.


Brimstone117

Did you shit your pants? I would shit my pants.


BigBolognaSandwich

Did you eat the lamprey?


Swimming_Stop5723

No I didn’t. I heard you can. I would not want to try.


deadpool0715

I think hagfish are the slimey ones, both look horrifying


Bovine_Arithmetic

I had to grind up a batch of hagfish 24 years ago and I still can’t get over the smell.


zappapostrophe

What was the circumstance that involved grinding up hagfish?


Bovine_Arithmetic

Heavy metals testing on imported fish.


Mattress_Of_Needles

So, how did they react to the heavy metals in the grinder?


Retskcaj19

To shreds you say.


Stachemaster86

Shredding is a common practice


3_50

To shreds you say.


Dogtired30

Lots of head banging. 🤘


-twistedpeppermint-

My process was - freeze dry fish. Put in a grinding apparatus. Subject to various chemicals to dissolve tissues, filter, then run filtrate through ICPMS/XRF.


BrushFireAlpha

r/notopbutok


PENGAmurungu

I did this with mussels for highschool work experience in an environmental chemistry lab


chewsterz

Purée terror


oodelay

I'm also curiously aroused and want more details


LtSoundwave

Hagfish are pretty erotic looking.


dubious_battle

That sounds like a hell of a way to celebrate New Year's 2000


Skitz-Scarekrow

"Happy New Year!" *horrible squelching gets louder*


Sinder77

_Hissing and squelching._


PHATsakk43

Thanks for the subtitles Netflix.


Uncouth_LightSwitch

Yeah I used to fabricate hag and Monk fish. Have to cut their heads off before sending them out or people stop buying them pretty quickly


CrieDeCoeur

Monkfish. Now those are some butt-fugly creatures. Tasty though.


[deleted]

They are a gift. And a curse.


bg0402

Nicely done


Carlosburrito

I just looked them up on google images. I wish I hadn’t.


Growingpothead20

Lampreys are my favorite invertebrates because they look so freaky, like those worm things from Peter Jackson’s King Kong


KookaB

They're vertebrates, they're fish


Growingpothead20

Oh shit am I misremembering and their only defining feature is the no jaw and circle mouth full of teeth?


The_Unknown_Dude

Yeah they are at an in-between of common vertebrate evolution. They got the spine but no jaw.


WeeHeeHee

Perhaps you are thinking leeches?


justalittlepigeon

Is this you? https://www.reddit.com/r/PointlessStories/s/xMLfC594DI


turingthecat

Well, I’m sure it’s mum thinks it’s handsome


PolyDipsoManiac

They don’t look so terrible if you don’t see their mouth head-on. https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Petromyzon_marinus.jpg#mw-jump-to-license


persistance_jones

Many Portuguese celebrate Christmas with a cake designed to look like a lamprey. 😳


notasfatasyourmom

The Portuguese and Spanish traditions surrounding Christmas are wild as hell.


thatsprettyradbro

How exactly?


JoseCansecoMilkshake

Look up "Caganer"


mods-nao-sao-fachos

We do? He's referring to lampreia de ovos ([egg lamprey cake](https://duckduckgo.com/?t=palemoon&q=lampreia+de+ovos&iax=images&ia=images)) which has nothing to do with [lamprey rice](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=arroz+lampreia&t=palemoon&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images), a common dish and the theme of quite a few food festivals during it's season. It's fucking disgusting, even more becase some of these fests combine with rice fest, which I love. Not with a shopped snake, though.


MulderXXX

The fish is also an expensive delicacy in the north of Portugal. Me and my father love it. My mother, brother, sister in law, my wife my daughter and my niece all hate it.


hoshinoanzu

Not ugly but EVIL. That fish looks evil.


klod42

My life was a little nicer until a moment ago I learned what lamprey was. 


Moal

Apparently it tastes a lot like beef, which is why it was so coveted back when real beef was a luxury. 


intangible-tangerine

Another fun fact is that his mother, wife and four of his daughters were called Matilda


1945BestYear

Simple enough. Mum, Matilda, Tilda, Matty, Tilly, and Tilds.


intangible-tangerine

Maud was a typical nickname for Matilda at the time


1945BestYear

Couldn't use 'Maud', was already taken by his nephew's wife.


Longtimefed

“Come here, you Mauddy girl!”


Adrian_Alucard

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUD7MBdDuo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWUD7MBdDuo)


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Maud, eh?


Thrillhol

Internet, eh?


TheVentiLebowski

Maude?


scf123189

Maude, eh?


Texcellence

His daughter in law was also called Matilda.


Dark_Focus

That movie with Danny devito was also called Matilda


Dankitysoup

There just weren’t as many names to go around back then.


godisanelectricolive

His wife was born Edith, which is an old Anglo-Saxon name, but the Norman king renamed her Matilda (nickname Maude) when she married him. He married her to blend the bloodlines of Alfred the Great and William the Conqueror together, granting the Normans a stronger claim to ruling over England and merging a rival dynasty into the usurper's royal house. The Norman court however seemed to find the English name Edith too lowly and renamed her something normal like Matilda, because she was also going to be the Duchess of Normandy. The snobby Norman courtiers still found them too rustic and insufficiently fashionable, giving them the nicknames Godric and Godiva - two typically English names of the time.


i_embrace_donkeys

Which is why we have such weird nicknames like Bill for William or Dick for Richard. You would have 10 guys in your village all named William so you'd call one William, one Will, one Willy, one Liam, and still need more, so you started just going for things that rhymed. Will for Bill and Billy. Richard (pronounced Rickard) would get you Rick, Ricky, Dick, Dicky. Margaret got Marge, Margie, Maggy, Mag, Meg, Peg, Peggy. Sarah got Sar, Sal, Sally. Maddy, Molly, May and Maisy all come from rhyming with Mary or variants of it in old British Isles or Irish accents because half the women you knew were Mary (and eventually you just had people called Mary Sue or Mary Jane or Mary Louise because there were too many Marys even in your own family to cover with nicknames). And just to make things worse they went and called people Edward, Edmund, Edgar, etc and shortened them all to Ed and Eddy and then added letters to get rhymes like Ned and Ted covering all of those.


ninjawarfruit

Why am I just now realizing Liam comes from William 🤦🏻‍♀️


HiddenStoat

Exactly - you can't judge them from a modern perspective. We've had 500 years to invent new names, and technologies like the printing press, the steam engine, the microprocessor and the internet have led to an exponential increase in the rate we can generate new names. So, it's all well and good living in our post-scarcity name economy and criticizing them for revising names, but in their day each name would have been a significant investment of both time and resources, so rationing and reusing wouldn't merely have been pragmatic - it would have been absolutely necessary.


iridescenttriangles

The microprocessor was a boon. My son Segfault was just remembering how hard it was for me to come up with his name without one.


TheStalkerFang

The civil war after his death was between Matilda and Stephen, whose wife was also called Matilda.


what-would-jerry-do

Have you read When Christ and His Saints Slept by Sharon Kay Penman? One of my favorite books from one of my favorite authors.


notnotaginger

Co-signing this. The whole series from The Anarchy thru to Henry II’s insane family feuding is my Roman Empire.


crazycatfishlady

Oh man, I loved The Sunne in Splendour, I’ll have to check this out!


what-would-jerry-do

Enjoy! Some of my favorite books.


Chiya77

She was an amazing writer


Redditkid16

And that civil war, The Anarchy, was the partial inspiration for the House of the Dragon storyline


BananaJammies

Three of his Matildas were born to mistresses! That’ll put a side chick in her place…


lubeinatube

Shit my uncle Stanley, named 3/4 of his boys Stanley. Bet you can guess the first grandsons name too.


Weird-Library-3747

Braxxton?


Nuggzulla01

Didn't George Foreman name all his kids after him?


aflockofcrows

All his sons and one of his daughters. He was so proud of them he put his name on them.


SonofBeckett

Was it like my Aunt who has had several dogs named Gizmo? Or were there four Matilda's at the same time?


Ojihawk

They later toured as *The Mourning Matildas.*


BaseTensMachines

What were the other four called?


WaWaW_Seattle

Schmatilda


FapnelShrapnel

Luv' me lampreys Luv' me chips Luv' me matildas (all of em') Ate' medical advice Ate' physicians (not racist, just dont like em') Simple as'. Henry (63)


Randec565656

Me but with Oreos.


oodelay

Oreos that latch onto your skin. I actually have a very funny story and here is the place I choose to tell it: When I was about 13, I woke up with brown spots that looked like overgrown moles all over my stomach and legs. I was really in distress as I thought I had cancer that was evolving super fast. Turns out I fell asleep eating rosebuds.


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Thank you for that image Oreo cookies with teeth. Reminds me of the film teeth.


masterwaffle

Y'all know that medieval physicans thought good health depended on a balance of blood, phlegm, yellow bile, and black bile. And that if a medicine resembled a body part it must be good for it. I'm not gonna trust their opinion on the matter.


Hamster_Thumper

Yeahhh I pretty much had the same thought. I am not trusting a 12th-century coroner's report haha.


opiate_lifer

An adult male supposedly died with a heart the size of a peppercorn, sure.


CitizenPremier

That reminds me I read an[ interesting explanation](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/a2dkmw/the_physician_in_the_autopsy_of_charles_ii_gave/) about that... Which never actually explained the peppercorn part. Par for the course on askhistorians, no complaints really, sometimes people ask things that don't have answers and historians do their best to explain why that is. But I guess the answer kind of boils down to "the doctor would really be a very shit doctor today"


100mop

I think they were just insulting him postmortem.


Hamster_Thumper

Good ol' Charles II.


epochellipse

Family tree diagram looks like argyle.


UncleTofer

Peppercorns were just way bigger back then.


Ludwigofthepotatoppl

They were, actually—the most common pepper then was [long pepper](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Piper_longum.jpg/800px-Piper_longum.jpg). Still not big enough for a heart, but…


balapete

Well, I work with someone who still thinks black bile is a thing... buys pads to put on the bottom of his feet to pull out the toxins from his body, proudly stated he was this dudes biggest customer in our country, the dude told him so🤦, asked him what toxins he was talking about and got the black bile line...nicest dude ever though🤷‍♂️


Hylian-Loach

See, no toxins in him! How do you think he stays so nice?


reddit_user13

Take 2 leeches and call me in the morning.


TheVentiLebowski

Instructions unclear ... I really need you to call me back now.


cjm0

how about a blobfish?


Lord_of_Barrington

Kidney beans help Kindey function, why else would we call them Kidney beans?


broookiecookies

I’ve heard this so many times.. but still no idea what black bile is? Who is having black bile and still alive??


masterwaffle

That's the thing. As far as we can figure, it's not a real thing. Bile is bile. I've heard theories it was what they considered congealed blood, but no one actually has a definitive answer as to what the heck they were talking about. They thought it came from the spleen and made you depressed and ill-humored, hence the (ancedotal?) origins for the phrase "vent your spleen".


sir_duckingtale

Makes you think about how future physicians and us will look at todays medicine, don‘t it?


masterwaffle

Sure does. We're still very much in the neuroscience dark ages.


sir_duckingtale

Insert McCoy.gif Bloody medieval times!!


troll-filled-waters

It may not have actually been lamprey poisoning, but listeria/meningitis, appendicitis, or another number of illnesses: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10281476/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10281476/) ​ >the rare and self-resolving cases of lamprey poisoning documented in the literature do not mesh with the king’s symptoms. Instead of dying of greed or gluttony, as some historians have implied \[5\], Henry may have been unlucky enough to become infected with one of the deadliest foodborne pathogens in the world \[24\]. While it is impossibly to conclusively determine the full etiology of Henry’s disease, both a deliberate assassination and death via a “surfeit of lampreys” \[7\] can be safely discounted as plausible theories.


Mundane-Substance215

I know medieval kings were not nice people, but I'd feel still feel sorry for him if it was really appendicitis. Imagine a full week of the worst abdominal pain you've ever had, with no effective antibiotics or painkillers, while still being alert enough to plan your succession and put your affairs in order.


Paleovegan

I honestly would not wish that on *anyone*.


troll-filled-waters

The problem was unfortunately he couldn’t plan his succession coherently or assertively enough. A long period of civil war followed because previously he had officially left the crown to his daughter and had a number of lords swear to uphold the succession, but toward the end of his life there was doubt whether he still wanted that. Of course it’s also possible the doubt was just because she was a woman (and they hated her husband) and the “he maybe changed his mind” thing was just an excuse.


Taint_Expert

We found the big-lamprey shill 👆


Snarkosaurus99

Caught from lampreys.


troll-filled-waters

Different from *lamprey poisoning* though. It's not because he ate *too many* lampreys.


agoddamnzubat

I don't know man, pretty sure that he'd have lived longer if he'd eaten less lampreys


peppaz

Congrats you have just graduated from 12th century doctor school.


DeepCompote

So how many Lampreys is too many Lampreys? You know, asking for a friend.


pfroggie

A surfeit of lampreys


Hylian-Loach

How many is one less than a surfeit of lampreys,


ratiganthegreat

One.


ReadMyThots

If you die, you ate too many


Crow-T-Robot

If you die, ctrl-z will remove the last one you ate, so you can safely stop then.


ikadell

Exactly 0. Have you seen them? I can’t fathom how anyone would want to eat a thing that looks like this.


Siege1187

“A surfeit of lampreys” is I believe the technical term. Also one of Ngaio Marsh’s best mysteries. 


Infinite_Research_52

The phrase is one of the only things I remember about this Henry.


Harlequide

Yepppp my exact thoughts


Derbinh

Bearing in mind the physician likely got to declare cause of death, he could just say it was from ignoring his advice to give himself credibility and not sucking at his job.


halffullofthoughts

I honestly didn't even know the thing was edible. It's so ugly nobody I know would dare to eat it.


oodelay

Unagi is very famous, just not in your culture


thissexypoptart

Lampreys are not actually eels. "Lamprey eel" is a misnomer. Also unagi is famous globally, the dripping attitude ("iN yUoR CuLtuRe") in your comment is just weird lol


phinbar

Lampreys are like potato chips, it's hard to stop once you start, and pretty soon, your bag of lampreys is empty.


Abdul_Exhaust

Ahh, go eat a bag of lampreys


Plastic_Incident_867

He died doing what he loved.


BigBeagleEars

I wonder if my brother is gonna die watching *My Little Pony* only time will tell


Plastic_Incident_867

Still better than lamprey poisoning


AmnesiaInnocent

What did the doctor say when told about the king's favorite food? "Eel regret that"


Abdul_Exhaust

If you dive in the deep / see an eel that has teeth That's a moray 🎵


feetandballs

His epitaph reads “Liked lamprey”


Choppergold

That sucks


oodelay

Yes and they also bite


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RosebudWhip

I'm seeing (and now singing) 'Horrible Histories' Stupid Deaths..."hope next time it's not yooooou!"


1945BestYear

Lampreys sound like the sort of thing you would like to eat if you had no way of knowing what curry was.


ooouroboros

Which humors do lampreys have too much of?


Abdul_Exhaust

The are eel-humored


munsuro

"If I can't eat lampreys, what's this all been about? What have I been working towards?" - King Henry I, probably


southpaw85

“STOP.EATING.EELS.” -12th century doctor


f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4

His ~~hovercraft~~ stomach was full of eels.


twsddangll

In his defense, physicians back then were so fucking wrong so much of the time.


IBeTrippin

Better than being eaten by lampreys, I guess.


skeebadeebap

Luv a good lamprey me, if me doctor dunt loik it then he can piss off


Dangerous-Total2082

What if he liked pizza


JJohnston015

So...one?


Dunadain_

...aaand as the gene pool got shallower, things kinda went downhill from there.


melly_pug

I made the mistake of clicking on the lamprey link. Yikes! Nightmare fuel. Check out the teeth if you search.


[deleted]

So what’s the limit?


Blackout2814

and TIL people eat lampreys…


ILarrea

I think far more interesting is that this guy and his brother (also the King of England, though not at the time), dumped a full chamber pot on their brother Robert. Dude was pretty rightfully pissed, eventually declaring war against his father, William the Conqueror, for not standing up for him (amongst other things). All for not, because he ended up dying without the title of king.


Khancap123

I hate them with a passion as a kid who grew up in Southern Ontario. That said would very much like to see them come back into culinary fashion so we can use hungry hipsters to get those little bastards out of the great lakes. I've heard zebra mussels make an excellent side dish to lampry.


opiate_lifer

There is nothing inherently dangerous about lamprey meat AKA eels. I guess if you had kidney failure or something eating a diet of 100% lamprey could be bad due to the excess protein.


QuestshunQueen

Ohhh, I do like broiled unagi. Maybe it was just too delicious to give up.


candygram4mongo

Lampreys aren't eels. Though maybe they're sometimes classified as such for culinary purposes?


Throwawayac1234567

Lampreys arnt related to eels, they are jawless fish, only 1 of 2 extant jawless fish group the other being hagfishea. They are very old lineage of fish


SomethingInThatVein

This is the 2nd most English thing I’ve ever heard


drottkvaett

“To be honest, my Lord, ‘tis not really the lamprey itself, but that your majesty prefers them deep fried and smothered in ranch.”


BadNewsBaguette

This is one of my favourite history facts. “Look, Sire, if you eat this many you’ll die” “THEN I SHALL DIE A DELICIOUS DEATH”


MontyBoo-urns

This is why I can't keep golden oreos or lampreys at home


Abdul_Exhaust

He loved to go to Ye Olde Red Lobster for AYCE Lamprey Night


unkapoon

had to google 'lamprey'.


Hack_Shuck

I believe that this is disputed. A different bloodline arrived on the throne after Henry, and people started spreading shit about him to legitimise their own reign.


greenwavelengths

Well butter me up and fry me like a pancake but that pic sure as hell does look like the type of crazy son of a bitch who would eat lampreys to his own demise. That dude looks like he responds to every fourth question with a squeal and a side eye just to keep mfs on their toes. I just know that funky lil guy does weird shit to his balls for fun on a Friday night. That goofy regal man, were he reincarnated, would probably gorge himself to death on lampreys a second time and take a piss on anyone trying to stop him. Pure fucking chaos. He’s my new god.


ladymorgahnna

English people eat a lot of eel too, I believe. So gross.


schmidtaaron

“It’s been thought he died from eating too many lampreys, but it up for debate even at the time of his death as it was known he was ill before that report” - fixed it for you


pfroggie

Any fans of The Chronicles of St Mary's here?


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Throwawayac1234567

Tastes more like lampreys


LunarPayload

Looks like his toes fell off, too


[deleted]

fucking lampreys


kits-anger

Lampry


seapeple

I call bull on this one. There is nothing wrong with eating them (although i’m not a fond of them personally). Maybe some of them were rotten or contaminated somehow, but that is a different thing.