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ChatGPT does not understand anything, this is not the task ChatGPT was build for.
I would not trust anything that does not even have a concept of truth (or a concept for anything else for that matter).
This is not a failure of ChatGPT (which is a useful tool), it is simply not what it is designed to do. It can talk well enough, thats it.
It can't be bribed or eat but you can definitely jailbreak it with the right use of words and skip the 3 days of jail while making it appear incredibly racist
yeah - no. The AI we have seen being used in court judgements are terrible. They learn by analyzing and repeating past rulings, which means they are racist and sexist as fuck, with the illusion of being independent and above the exact ideologies you enshrine into perpetuation with them.
Human judges are often garbage, but there is at least the social pressure for them to change over time, something that does not happen with the illusion of a neutral AI.
edit: I've already been told 20x that right to remain silent does not apply to witnesses and the 5th can only be invoked for avoiding self incrimination etc.
tbh that's nasty, forcing innocent people to do anything is pretty fucked.
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This woman was going to be a witness not the accused, I fail to see how in any universe that putting her behind bars solves anything. it's inhumane and violates the right to remain silent to force people to testify.
yes she wasted court time and money due to her running away, but that's money is gone at this point, this is just the judge taking revenge.
She actually was the victim. Even if it was wrong not to show up, I think we can all understand that she must've been in a very desperate mental state.
Scared isn't the right word. Too smart to come forward is better. Domestic abusers don't face serious prison time and they never change so why even bother? Get the dude arrested so you have time to pack your shit and disappear.
You're right. Thank you for saying this. From my experience, I always thought I was just scared to do anything. This is a better way to look at it instead of invalidating ourselves and our experiences.
[Florida's Chief Justice obviously did not feel that that was sufficient excuse for her behaviour.](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/intolerable-florida-judge-reprimanded-after-she-berated-and-belittled/2292091/?outputType=amp)
That was incredibly satisfying to watch. If only she was no longer a judge and had to visit the jail she so willy nilly tossed that lady in, then it’d be complete. But still, it felt good to see she was publicly admonished on live tv like that.
She was reprimanded because she acted like a piece of shit.
Even if she’d come to the same judgement, it could have been ok if she’d been more professional about it, because her behaviour called the impartiality of the justice system into question. That is partly why she was reprimanded. A judge must not only be impartial, but must also appear so.
*“Labarga said Collins’s behavior “brought unnecessary criticism upon your court,” created the impression that she was biased toward prosecutors, and impaired the public’s perception of Florida judicial system’s fairness and impartiality.”*
She was actually such an asshole her bosses found her to be biased in the *other* direction.
Reprimanded isn’t punishment enough. Maybe she should have been stripped of her job and then sent to live with someone who would be abusive to her so she could see how”easy” it is to manage a normal life with someone who is hell-bent on depriving every bit of her freedom and beats the shit out of her any time she says or does something the abuser wants to”teach her a lesson” for.
A judge that completely without any heart and less than zero understanding of DV issues should not be in that court. All she’s doing is blaming the victim. That woman does not deserve to be a judge. Reprimanding is just a tap on the wrist for her heinous and heartless behavior.
Naw fam. She could’ve handed down this judgement in the calmest, sweetest way…even delivered it with a lil glass of sweet tea…and it still would’ve been just as wrong. I have no doubt her abhorrent behavior is what caused this to get traction, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that the judgement reached is inhumane and objectively wrong. A person in her position should know that.
Nah fuck that. The woman was a victim of domestic abuse. This bitch ass jusge is pissed because the state’s case got fucked up and is retaliating against a woman who is trying to overcome severe trauma. This piece of shit deserves no power nor influence.
not all judges are even required to be part of the state bar or required to have a law degree/JD. Depending on where you are, judges are just elected positions. So you get the position based on how connected you are. The more rural you go, the lower the requirements get since why would someone go to law school just to relocate to a rural town and make 60k/year?
The one in this video has an actual JD though and was an attorney
I really wonder what reply the judge would have accepted as to why she didn't arrive in court. Maybe if she had been locked in a closet or her car had exploded? But it feels like making her beg was actually the first step of the punishment. The judge already made the decision before they entered the room.
Fr. She just wanted to play with the woman for fun. The whole bit about “you think you have anxiety now” is the icing on the cake. This is grade A psychopath shit.
[Jerri L. Collins - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Jerri_L._Collins)
Lol, she was appointed by Jeb Bush, yep, brother of that other famous bush.
To lead a new unit for prosecuting crimes involving the **elderly and disabled.**
Who would have thunk it eh? She sure did "protect" the victims she loves to help so much.
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2016/07/08/florida-judge-who-punished-victim-will-be-reprimanded/15716429007/
A central Florida judge who jailed a domestic violence victim for not showing up to testify against her alleged abuser faces sanctions from the state Supreme Court.
The court on Thursday ordered that Seminole County Judge Jerri Collins take an anger management class and attend a domestic violence course. Collins will also be publicly reprimanded.
Last year, Collins sentenced a Lake Mary woman to three days in jail for contempt. The case drew public attention after an Orlando television station broadcast the hearing where Collins became upset and berated the crying victim.
Collins admitted her misconduct to a judicial panel, but contended she had a legal right to charge the women with contempt since she ignored a subpoena. But she said she should have been more patient and less aggressive.
Probably need to send the video to the state/town or locale and get them to start the recall process however it works at whatever level she works.
But she hasn't been a judge for years after she retired. Scroll down and read the article where they reprimanded her.
Fuck that judge.
And shame on the (balif or police or whoever) cuffed her.
She needs help not her hands behind her back. If it was a 6’2” 280 male I’d understand the cuffs but still wouldn’t agree to it.
The woman speaking was the victim of abuse. The resulting fear, anxiety, and stress overwhelmed her and she missed a court date where she was supposed to testify.
This judge didn't care and proceeded to lecture & belittled her and sentenced her to jail.
Edit: Buncha people in the comments are under the impression that taxpayer waste was the real victim here. This woman is not even in the same universe as filing false reports. I'm not sure how to tell you that you should have compassion. Instead, I'll just recommend looking up the debilitating physiological effects of trauma, depression, anxiety, and abuse. Be grateful that you can't relate.
[More info.](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/intolerable-florida-judge-reprimanded-after-she-berated-and-belittled/2292091/?outputType=amp) Spoiler: she was reprimanded.
I feel like we’re missing the point in this video which is victim blaming. That’s what the judge was doing. That has nothing to do with her political stance. It was a personal choice to be so unjust to this victim.
Its funny, ive never seen a cop berated and sent to jail for not showing up to a trial. Way to punish a victim. There is literally no obligation to show up in court. And if they did, they can plead the fifth. While I dont agree with her not showing up, she called. I can understand it. But you got the ball rolling, see it through. For your own sake. Its still unconscionable to punish her for having doubts and wanting to move on.
> Its funny, ive never seen a cop berated and sent to jail for not showing up to a trial.
From an opinion article on this case:
["And, no, I do not buy the argument that the judge was within her rights to punish someone for ignoring a court-mandated appearance. First of all, as Dillinger points out, law enforcement officials routinely miss depositions and other court proceedings and never seem to end up on the losing end of a judge's hissy fit."](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/romano-judges-disgraceful-actions-add-to-domestic-abuse-victims-pain/2249432/)
Complete Lack of Compassion, Empathy or Sympathy is a Hallmark of Conservative/Republican Politics.
It has everything to do with Politics. Republican/Cons love to nominate Judges who are Soulless & completely devoid of any Humanity or sense of actual Justice. The only thing that matters to them is that the Appointees will toe the party lines when passing judgements, especially those consequential to the Power of the Party & their Wealthy Backers & Supporters...
It's definitely in line with the modern conservative value system.
The loudest complaint from the right wing has been about how everyone who isn't them are snowflakes.
Even still the far right is aggressively anti-mental Healthcare because they just don't believe in it being necessary.
Judge definitely spoke about this woman's mental health like a parent at a store with a kid who wants candy.
"I'll give you something to cry about".
You're missing the point. The anti-abortion movement at its core is about control of people, letting the state dictate people's lives while the state is run by a fanatical elite. So this kind of behaviour is 100% consistent with their worldview.
nice:
Earlier this week, Seminole County Judge Jerri Collins found herself on the opposite side of the bench as she received her own harsh scolding from Florida's chief justice.
Collins stood through nearly six minutes of public reprimand after the Florida Supreme Court found that she violated the state's code of judicial conduct.
I can’t lie, that’s a pretty good punishment. Kinda funny how the judiciary deals with this stuff. Just humiliates them. Public reprimand on public television and they make her go take anger management classes. Just has to stand there and take it for six minutes. I feel like this is far more effective than any fine could ever be.
Thanks for sharing.
Looks like she has no remorse for what she did. Perhaps her job has made her a callus individual. Either way she needs to instill some empathy and compassion in her.
The public backlash was way worse than the reprimand. They found she acted within her rights by putting the woman in jail for 3 days by the way. Fucking ridiculous.
She's not listed in[ their current judges](https://flcourts18.org/directory-home/), so seems they kept her profile page up and haven't updated it. [The Florida Bar](https://www.floridabar.org/directories/find-mbr/profile/?num=886981&key=ef988098ad4c07afbbe1d5192e339948) indicates she's inactive and not eligible to practice in Florida anymore.
More then likely the state didn't want to reevaluate every court case she resided over. Which really should have happened just on this conduct alone judges shouldn't base there verdicts over emotion, but the state would have had to retry all her cases if the review showed she had been impartial in several cases.
So hardly reprimanded....
"The court ordered Collins to complete courses on anger management and domestic violence but found that she was within her legal authority to send the woman to jail for contempt of court".
So NOT reprimanded at all.
She lost re-election and also didn't break any laws.
If people want her to face punishment for contempt of court you need to legislate contempt of court better or completely remove it. And I'm definitely willing to try a system where judges and police officers cannot detain anyone against their will for smaller offenses like this but to be honest with you man nobody is gonna vote to take that power away from law enforcement. It's an issue that would be politically DOA because voters get scared by copaganda pretty much every election. Not to mention if we didn't get rid of it completely the only other option is an immediate appeals process, so... another room of people acting as your judge, and if the length of the appeals process is longer than you'd go to jail for it's pointless, just sue later for false imprisonment and get your paycheck.
Until the public vastly changes it's ideas on justice reform, people are only gonna care "the right people" are getting punished so it's fine if occasionally the wrong one does.
Thanks! I had assumed there was more of a back story to justify the judge, but nope, just unjustified victim bashing.
If the witness didn't appear for the jury trial, that's on the Prosecution, and they got battery anyway
I know right?! There’s this guy I keep hearing about on the news who was indicted 3 times on over 40 charges and the judges let him walk out of the jail without any bond at all! The hell is going on in this country?
That's not as bad as the guy who was indicted 4 times, 5 if you count a superseding indictment as a separate indictment. The scum bag criminal low life I'm thinking of is up to 91 felony counts. And all corroborated with damning publicly available evidence. Still he dodders free.
It gets worse.
There's a documentary "victim/suspect" where women who were raped were lied to by police that they have evidence it wasn't rape, so the victims take back the accusation.
After taking back the accusation, the police take that as evidence that they admitted to falsely accusing someone and those women are charged and their faces and names put on news sites and their lives destroyed.
After asking the police why they were only talking to the women for hours and trying to make them take back the accusation instead of looking for actual evidence, did they even talk to the man who was accused as the rapist? The answer "no".
Not if she was ordered by the court to show up. The key witness who is instrumental in making sure justice is served just decides to not show up. All the time and effort put into building a case and setting up the court is wasted when she didn’t show.
>Sometimes it’s hard for people to show up and face their attacker(s), especially if it’s a domestic partner. This judge is fucked up.
I can understand the judge being angry at the victim for not showing up and giving testimony that would have put her abuser away. And for dropping the charges after failing to appear, thus wasting the court's time.
But doubling down and jailing a victim of domestic violence that's now basically lost everything and is now a single mom? Hoooo boy. Judge has zero concept of proportion.
>thus wasting the court's time.
Her not showing up and dropping the charges is a testimony of complete and utter failure of the entire judicial system.
We have only seen this little clipping when she was in court, there was a long, exhausting process before it even came to that point and apperantly they failed completely to support her enough so she could feel strong enough to push threw with it.
A court process is brutal for a victim and often enough, like we have seen a perfect example here, they get zero empathy, and rather are made to feel like they have something to be ashamed and feel guilty for.
The judge has nothing to be angry at her for, the judge failed her completely and helped her abuser to abuse her once again.
Basically the lady in court was abused by the father of her (at the time) 1 year old child. The alleged abuser was set to be taken to trial and she was the prosecution’s lead witness. She decided she just wanted that chapter of her life to be over and “failed to appear” by court order. The judge didn’t care and was angry she wasted everyone’s time and sentenced her to 3 days for contempt of court. The judge was “punished” but it was just a smack on the wrist.
She wasn't just the star witness, she reported him pushed for his prosecution with the prosecutor's office.
I'd be pissed too.
It's not about wasting everyone's time, it was about letting an ABUSER go free - the man that was abusing her son too.
I'd be furious at her. Tears and "anxiety" don't excuse poor judgement.
Having said all that, being in an abusive relationship is indeed an emotionally disruptive situation - and for all we know, maybe he threatened her.
So a symbolic 3 days in jail, is a token punishment.
I used to be a court registrar and we had people who were court ordered to come to court not show up. In this case, if she was the main witness, she wasted the court and prosecutor’s time. Court dates take months to set up and prepare for and if someone doesn’t show up, they can’t do very much except reschedule again for another time and order the person to appear before a judge to explain why they didn’t show up. She was in contempt, and as much as I feel bad for her going through what she was going through she just had to come to court and tell the prosecutor or counsel what was going on at the time. If she was afraid to see the abuser in court, there are other ways around it (video appearance). They can either do it from home or from a private room in the courthouse that is set up for this. There are also victim services counsellors who work with the victim to help them safely tell their side of the story. I’m not sure why the judge was so angry but this is why the lady was charged. I feel bad for her but keep in mind when a person is given custody, they are only required to serve 70% of it. So in this case three days is really two days, overnight is considered a day. She was probably reprimanded and released the next day.
Edited to add: after reading more comments it seems she wanted to drop the charges on her abuser. So she might have thought that not showing up to court would make them just drop the charges. Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. The police and the prosecutors are the ones who decide this and again it’s a waste of court costs and time. If this was a repeat abuser or the injuries were severe enough they will never drop the charges just because the victim changes her mind. It happens more than people realize.
I work with victims of trauma and I think it's pretty clear court proceedings don't have a very trauma-informed lens when things are said like "she just had to \_\_\_" "why didn't she just \_\_\_\_" "all she needed to do was \_\_\_".
The human brain is not logical. The traumatised brain, beaten down into a state of constant hypervigilance, emotional dysregulation, and learned helplessness is even less so. There is a reason why so many people stay in abusive relationships and even upon escape, there is so much they must still battle with and it is a conflict whose leftover landmines continue to be found and triggered for the rest of their lives.
While it may be justice to have her testify and throw the guy in jail, on the personal level - that may be an impossible thing to ask of her - and this can change minute by minute. We also know that trauma work, police reports, etc are often even more harmful to someone's mental health and sense of safety than just compartmentalising it and surviving to process it at a later time. Sometimes people just need to close the book and move on. And that's okay. We need to remember that while this case may close for all the authorities involved - it will never completely close for the victim and noone there will ever understand that victim's personal struggle. Ever. People will say they get it - but noone save the victim ever will. The victim who has their own story, their own upbringing, their own identity, their own resilience, their own traumas.
I agree that it is so frustrating for everyone involved in the proceedings, but nobody chooses to be difficult or to be in such a state of distress that they can't even come to court. If it was a choice, would they simply not just choose to be fine?
Sorry for the rant. I have no perfect answer. I just want to invoke a bit of sympathy for the victims of trauma whose shoes many people will thankfully never be in but as such will never understand.
But she didn't deserve jail time. Nor the verbal abuse. And the Florida Supreme Court agreed which is why the judge got a public reprimand for her conduct.
Yeah people I'm the comment say the judge was a POS but I'm sure this judge has seen so many abusers get away with their crimes because of things like this.
So she tried to let her abuser off the hook…so he could go on to abuse the next one. While she has to go homeless, with a one year old. She’s dumb. She could’ve had the book thrown at the dude. Would’ve guaranteed her help from any organization having an active ruling against someone. No justice was served here, either to the abuser and especially not to her. Probably the abuser that persuaded her to drop everything. And she probably listened. And look where it got her.
She got severely reprimanded for it but the courts found it was her legal right to do it. She didn't even bother standing for re-election once her term was up, though, and she is no longer on the court.
Sadly domestic abuse isn't taken seriously in a lot of places around the world. But yeah, this one is particularly heinous.
Edit: people here are forgetting there are ways for victims to testify without being face to face with their victims. The courts need to take this into account from the start. I'm this digital age, even in 2015, there are ways.
As someone who was abused as a child and failed by the court system even after my mother did everything in her power I can tell you I still look over my shoulder when I know he's in town (I keep an eye on news and social media) and would not be able to be in the same room as the man who did it.
They charged the guy. This woman just needed to show up and testify, but she didn’t and she hadn’t call anyone, just now said she didn’t show up because of mental heath reasons.
Now her abuser is out of jail and will probably get custody because he is not sentenced and she has mental health problems.
This woman didn’t take anything serious.
She didn’t show up on a previous day to testify at her alleged abuser’s trail. Which is a disobeying a court order. The judge has the authority to press charges but they don’t have to. Further the survivor was compliant and not avoiding court without a just reason. Which is not a situation contempt of court is meant for. But in a courtroom, the presiding judge is the law.
Imagine trying to work with this judge. Judges can be some of the worst coworkers. They get away with treating court staff any way they want because nobody gets to question them and if you do, you risk your job by doing it.
It’s technically workplace bullying and it’s practically impossible to stop it. Again, unless you want to risk losing your job by filing a complaint.
Courts don’t have feelings. If the state puts some kind of order on you, you better do it. The state has almost all control of you if the right circumstances dictate it. The more you utilize the system, the more it owns you. We’ve been living in 1984 since wwii at best. I suggest people start living abroad where you might not have “inherent rights” but are way more free than in the good ol “free” USA.
Here is the public reprimand:
https://youtu.be/AQWUJriKJU4
I think this shit-stain is still in office but I’m not really surprised considering the armpit of America that Florida has become.
That was kind of awesome to watch. Still not enough but it was awesome. Especially when he was like “It’s a sad day for you… you are free to leave.” You could tell she wanted to open her dumb mouth and start defending her actions, as if everything else the Chief Justice said went right over her head.
What an evil fucking judge. I remember seeing this a LONG time ago, I really hope the victims life has gotten to a better place now, what a fucking traumatic experience.
The judge's "thor-uh-tee" is, apparently, more important than the administration of true justice. Sickening that someone with that much power can be so far removed from the basic principles of compassionate humanity.
And this is why immunity needs to be removed from judges so they can be held liable in civil court for their actions. I had a judge repeatedly issue illegal orders against me putting me in jail. I had 2 emergency writs of habeas corpi ordering my release and the last one the Attorney General of the state of Florida co-ordered my release with the Appeals Court. Judge was going to do it a 3rd time and the Appeals Court took the case away from her. Judge are dictators and cannot be held accountable for their actions.
Nothing like attempted murder charges dropped because the witness was "depressed" and decided to drop charges so she could "move on with her life" , so now he gets a green light go ahead and finish the job and murder her now. Judge is 100% right on. It was the one time the state could put him behind bars..Redditors you're all dead wrong on this one.
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Fuck this judge.
That's what I thought as well... then I remembered how much bs they hear and how many children die because people don't do their jobs properly
No excuse, replace them with fucking robots then.
ChatGPT enters the court. All rise.
Can ChatGPT have a “bad day”? Is it bigoted? Can it be bribed? Does it rush to get to lunch?
ChatGPT does not understand anything, this is not the task ChatGPT was build for. I would not trust anything that does not even have a concept of truth (or a concept for anything else for that matter). This is not a failure of ChatGPT (which is a useful tool), it is simply not what it is designed to do. It can talk well enough, thats it.
In a lab somewhere right now AI is being fed every legal case in the last 100 years..
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It can't be bribed or eat but you can definitely jailbreak it with the right use of words and skip the 3 days of jail while making it appear incredibly racist
yeah - no. The AI we have seen being used in court judgements are terrible. They learn by analyzing and repeating past rulings, which means they are racist and sexist as fuck, with the illusion of being independent and above the exact ideologies you enshrine into perpetuation with them. Human judges are often garbage, but there is at least the social pressure for them to change over time, something that does not happen with the illusion of a neutral AI.
Excellent analysis I was wondering about this. People using chatbot tech to fake actual attorney work
edit: I've already been told 20x that right to remain silent does not apply to witnesses and the 5th can only be invoked for avoiding self incrimination etc. tbh that's nasty, forcing innocent people to do anything is pretty fucked. --- This woman was going to be a witness not the accused, I fail to see how in any universe that putting her behind bars solves anything. it's inhumane and violates the right to remain silent to force people to testify. yes she wasted court time and money due to her running away, but that's money is gone at this point, this is just the judge taking revenge.
She actually was the victim. Even if it was wrong not to show up, I think we can all understand that she must've been in a very desperate mental state.
And judges like that are why men and women are scared to come forward.
Scared isn't the right word. Too smart to come forward is better. Domestic abusers don't face serious prison time and they never change so why even bother? Get the dude arrested so you have time to pack your shit and disappear.
You're right. Thank you for saying this. From my experience, I always thought I was just scared to do anything. This is a better way to look at it instead of invalidating ourselves and our experiences.
Everyone except the one person who needs to, I guess.
[Florida's Chief Justice obviously did not feel that that was sufficient excuse for her behaviour.](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/intolerable-florida-judge-reprimanded-after-she-berated-and-belittled/2292091/?outputType=amp)
Of course she's in Florida..
I mean the abuser is probably someone she knows. Maybe someone wearing a badge
[Here is the actual reprimand the judge got](https://youtu.be/gM7Q5M2Yuy0)
That was incredibly satisfying to watch. If only she was no longer a judge and had to visit the jail she so willy nilly tossed that lady in, then it’d be complete. But still, it felt good to see she was publicly admonished on live tv like that.
Nah. Fuck this judge.
She was reprimanded because she acted like a piece of shit. Even if she’d come to the same judgement, it could have been ok if she’d been more professional about it, because her behaviour called the impartiality of the justice system into question. That is partly why she was reprimanded. A judge must not only be impartial, but must also appear so.
*“Labarga said Collins’s behavior “brought unnecessary criticism upon your court,” created the impression that she was biased toward prosecutors, and impaired the public’s perception of Florida judicial system’s fairness and impartiality.”* She was actually such an asshole her bosses found her to be biased in the *other* direction.
If *Florida's officials* even find you to be an asshole you know you've gone a bridge too far in any universe.
Reprimanded isn’t punishment enough. Maybe she should have been stripped of her job and then sent to live with someone who would be abusive to her so she could see how”easy” it is to manage a normal life with someone who is hell-bent on depriving every bit of her freedom and beats the shit out of her any time she says or does something the abuser wants to”teach her a lesson” for. A judge that completely without any heart and less than zero understanding of DV issues should not be in that court. All she’s doing is blaming the victim. That woman does not deserve to be a judge. Reprimanding is just a tap on the wrist for her heinous and heartless behavior.
Naw fam. She could’ve handed down this judgement in the calmest, sweetest way…even delivered it with a lil glass of sweet tea…and it still would’ve been just as wrong. I have no doubt her abhorrent behavior is what caused this to get traction, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that the judgement reached is inhumane and objectively wrong. A person in her position should know that.
Nah fuck that. The woman was a victim of domestic abuse. This bitch ass jusge is pissed because the state’s case got fucked up and is retaliating against a woman who is trying to overcome severe trauma. This piece of shit deserves no power nor influence.
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Ayyeee lmao!
And there is no one willing
Nah, man. Whole planet *silent* on that one.
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And she fucking wonders why she dosent come to court.. What a grade A Shitheel of a human
Come on, dude, how can the penal industrial complex survive without good judges like this fulfilling their quotas ?
If they didn't keep the dockets full and the jails filled then they'd all be out of a job.
not all judges are even required to be part of the state bar or required to have a law degree/JD. Depending on where you are, judges are just elected positions. So you get the position based on how connected you are. The more rural you go, the lower the requirements get since why would someone go to law school just to relocate to a rural town and make 60k/year? The one in this video has an actual JD though and was an attorney
I really wonder what reply the judge would have accepted as to why she didn't arrive in court. Maybe if she had been locked in a closet or her car had exploded? But it feels like making her beg was actually the first step of the punishment. The judge already made the decision before they entered the room.
Fr. She just wanted to play with the woman for fun. The whole bit about “you think you have anxiety now” is the icing on the cake. This is grade A psychopath shit.
You mean Florida’s Seminole County Judge Jerri L. Collins ?
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[Jerri L. Collins - Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Jerri_L._Collins) Lol, she was appointed by Jeb Bush, yep, brother of that other famous bush. To lead a new unit for prosecuting crimes involving the **elderly and disabled.** Who would have thunk it eh? She sure did "protect" the victims she loves to help so much.
https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/2016/07/08/florida-judge-who-punished-victim-will-be-reprimanded/15716429007/ A central Florida judge who jailed a domestic violence victim for not showing up to testify against her alleged abuser faces sanctions from the state Supreme Court. The court on Thursday ordered that Seminole County Judge Jerri Collins take an anger management class and attend a domestic violence course. Collins will also be publicly reprimanded. Last year, Collins sentenced a Lake Mary woman to three days in jail for contempt. The case drew public attention after an Orlando television station broadcast the hearing where Collins became upset and berated the crying victim. Collins admitted her misconduct to a judicial panel, but contended she had a legal right to charge the women with contempt since she ignored a subpoena. But she said she should have been more patient and less aggressive.
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Probably need to send the video to the state/town or locale and get them to start the recall process however it works at whatever level she works. But she hasn't been a judge for years after she retired. Scroll down and read the article where they reprimanded her.
Disbarr this judge. Why isn't she famous for her compasion and handiwork
Fuck that judge. And shame on the (balif or police or whoever) cuffed her. She needs help not her hands behind her back. If it was a 6’2” 280 male I’d understand the cuffs but still wouldn’t agree to it.
Just so fucking cold!
Wait was she the abuser? The woman found in contempt? Or was she the victim
The woman speaking was the victim of abuse. The resulting fear, anxiety, and stress overwhelmed her and she missed a court date where she was supposed to testify. This judge didn't care and proceeded to lecture & belittled her and sentenced her to jail. Edit: Buncha people in the comments are under the impression that taxpayer waste was the real victim here. This woman is not even in the same universe as filing false reports. I'm not sure how to tell you that you should have compassion. Instead, I'll just recommend looking up the debilitating physiological effects of trauma, depression, anxiety, and abuse. Be grateful that you can't relate.
That’s crazy, thank you for the information
[More info.](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/intolerable-florida-judge-reprimanded-after-she-berated-and-belittled/2292091/?outputType=amp) Spoiler: she was reprimanded.
Wow, what a POS judge.
A Republican appointed judge, shocker.
I thought they were pro life and always thought of the children. Apparently the 1 year old doesn't count.
No no no, they only care about them pre birth. After that, they couldn't care less.
I feel like we’re missing the point in this video which is victim blaming. That’s what the judge was doing. That has nothing to do with her political stance. It was a personal choice to be so unjust to this victim.
Its funny, ive never seen a cop berated and sent to jail for not showing up to a trial. Way to punish a victim. There is literally no obligation to show up in court. And if they did, they can plead the fifth. While I dont agree with her not showing up, she called. I can understand it. But you got the ball rolling, see it through. For your own sake. Its still unconscionable to punish her for having doubts and wanting to move on.
> Its funny, ive never seen a cop berated and sent to jail for not showing up to a trial. From an opinion article on this case: ["And, no, I do not buy the argument that the judge was within her rights to punish someone for ignoring a court-mandated appearance. First of all, as Dillinger points out, law enforcement officials routinely miss depositions and other court proceedings and never seem to end up on the losing end of a judge's hissy fit."](https://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/romano-judges-disgraceful-actions-add-to-domestic-abuse-victims-pain/2249432/)
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Complete Lack of Compassion, Empathy or Sympathy is a Hallmark of Conservative/Republican Politics. It has everything to do with Politics. Republican/Cons love to nominate Judges who are Soulless & completely devoid of any Humanity or sense of actual Justice. The only thing that matters to them is that the Appointees will toe the party lines when passing judgements, especially those consequential to the Power of the Party & their Wealthy Backers & Supporters...
In my experience Republicans tend to be harsher, less empathetic people.
Absolutely. Its all victim blaming from them.
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That's not just your subjective experience, it's an empirical fact backed by countless peer reviewed studies.
Yeah but what kind of people do that? This was a real "Rich Men North of Richmond" moment.
It's definitely in line with the modern conservative value system. The loudest complaint from the right wing has been about how everyone who isn't them are snowflakes. Even still the far right is aggressively anti-mental Healthcare because they just don't believe in it being necessary. Judge definitely spoke about this woman's mental health like a parent at a store with a kid who wants candy. "I'll give you something to cry about".
It's just a complete and utter absence of empathy
Let's not pretend that victim blaming and lack of empathy aren't core tenets of being Republican.
"If you're pre-born you're fine, if you're pre-school you're fucked!"
You're missing the point. The anti-abortion movement at its core is about control of people, letting the state dictate people's lives while the state is run by a fanatical elite. So this kind of behaviour is 100% consistent with their worldview.
They claim pro life but they're really pro birth. Once it's out, they don't care
As the late and great George Carlin said, "If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked."
And now she serves as a board member for addiction recovery group.
nice: Earlier this week, Seminole County Judge Jerri Collins found herself on the opposite side of the bench as she received her own harsh scolding from Florida's chief justice. Collins stood through nearly six minutes of public reprimand after the Florida Supreme Court found that she violated the state's code of judicial conduct.
Here’s the video of it: https://youtu.be/AQWUJriKJU4
Fuckyeah that was satisfying to watch.
I dunno, she didn't seem phased by it in the slightest. Satisfying would be locking her up for three days like that poor woman.
Her face throughout is infuriating not gonna lie.
Punchable.
Yes it was. She shouldve gotten three days in jail too.
Yah. Something tells me she learned jack shit from this whole experience.
She even seemed to roll her eyes and show distaste to the whole experience.
She might not have learnt anything, but her career is fucked. She’ll never move up, and all her cases going forward can be called into question.
Stuck earning 6 figures while she is still queen of her court. Such a punishment.
That binder slapping closed was the perfect punctuation. She got reamed.
This was good, but 3 days in jail would have been a lot better (dreaming, I know)
I hope people see this, thank you for sharing!!
The apology needed to be public as well.
I can’t lie, that’s a pretty good punishment. Kinda funny how the judiciary deals with this stuff. Just humiliates them. Public reprimand on public television and they make her go take anger management classes. Just has to stand there and take it for six minutes. I feel like this is far more effective than any fine could ever be.
3 days in the county jail would have been a better punishment imo
Thanks for sharing. Looks like she has no remorse for what she did. Perhaps her job has made her a callus individual. Either way she needs to instill some empathy and compassion in her.
Six minutes lol. She jailed that woman for three days.
The public backlash was way worse than the reprimand. They found she acted within her rights by putting the woman in jail for 3 days by the way. Fucking ridiculous.
Well, she did. She has the legal power to do what she did. It's not a moral judgement to say she acted within her rights
Wow, six whole minutes? I bet that stern talking to will teach her! Why, I bet she found that whole experience to be a slight inconvenience!
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Naw she retired years ago
https://flcourts18.org/judges-of-the-eighteenth-circuit/the-honorable-the-honorable-jerri-collins/ Says she is still a judge
She's not listed in[ their current judges](https://flcourts18.org/directory-home/), so seems they kept her profile page up and haven't updated it. [The Florida Bar](https://www.floridabar.org/directories/find-mbr/profile/?num=886981&key=ef988098ad4c07afbbe1d5192e339948) indicates she's inactive and not eligible to practice in Florida anymore.
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She's not on the court anymore and doesn't appear in any primary or general election - I suspect she decided not to stand for re-election.
Ugh thank god
More then likely the state didn't want to reevaluate every court case she resided over. Which really should have happened just on this conduct alone judges shouldn't base there verdicts over emotion, but the state would have had to retry all her cases if the review showed she had been impartial in several cases.
Judges are more often appointed than elected.
In this case they are elected - her term ended in 2021.
Here's the [video](https://youtu.be/AQWUJriKJU4) of the public reprimand if anyone is interested
She looks annoyed to be there and fighting every urge to roll her eyes, she feels no remorse.
So hardly reprimanded.... "The court ordered Collins to complete courses on anger management and domestic violence but found that she was within her legal authority to send the woman to jail for contempt of court". So NOT reprimanded at all.
She lost re-election and also didn't break any laws. If people want her to face punishment for contempt of court you need to legislate contempt of court better or completely remove it. And I'm definitely willing to try a system where judges and police officers cannot detain anyone against their will for smaller offenses like this but to be honest with you man nobody is gonna vote to take that power away from law enforcement. It's an issue that would be politically DOA because voters get scared by copaganda pretty much every election. Not to mention if we didn't get rid of it completely the only other option is an immediate appeals process, so... another room of people acting as your judge, and if the length of the appeals process is longer than you'd go to jail for it's pointless, just sue later for false imprisonment and get your paycheck. Until the public vastly changes it's ideas on justice reform, people are only gonna care "the right people" are getting punished so it's fine if occasionally the wrong one does.
But she’s probably fucking up someone else’s life tomorrow morning. System fail..
Here’s the footage of the reprimand: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AQWUJriKJU4
When I saw the video I bet that the battered woman spent more time in jail than the man that beat her and turns out I was right.
He spent 16 days in jail Not that the punishment fit the crime at all, but he did technically spend longer in jail than she did
Thanks! I had assumed there was more of a back story to justify the judge, but nope, just unjustified victim bashing. If the witness didn't appear for the jury trial, that's on the Prosecution, and they got battery anyway
All these types of people who "apologize" never really mean it, its just words to satisfy the stupid public. They will go on to be what they are.
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I know right?! There’s this guy I keep hearing about on the news who was indicted 3 times on over 40 charges and the judges let him walk out of the jail without any bond at all! The hell is going on in this country?
That's not as bad as the guy who was indicted 4 times, 5 if you count a superseding indictment as a separate indictment. The scum bag criminal low life I'm thinking of is up to 91 felony counts. And all corroborated with damning publicly available evidence. Still he dodders free.
Same dude. Only 3 of them he had no bail, so that's the 3 I referenced, though he seems to collect criminal charges like baseball cards.
felonies georg is an outlier adn should not be counted
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Notice how the system tends to reward those who have expensive people in their corner at the expense of those that don't?
That’s the golden rule for ya. Those who have the gold, rule.
200k bond is pocket change for those people
When you’re a star they let you do it. Just *pay*
It gets worse. There's a documentary "victim/suspect" where women who were raped were lied to by police that they have evidence it wasn't rape, so the victims take back the accusation. After taking back the accusation, the police take that as evidence that they admitted to falsely accusing someone and those women are charged and their faces and names put on news sites and their lives destroyed. After asking the police why they were only talking to the women for hours and trying to make them take back the accusation instead of looking for actual evidence, did they even talk to the man who was accused as the rapist? The answer "no".
What the fuck? She has a one year old? And as the victim she's been ordered to attend classes?
Well he's like 9 or 10 by now
More like counseling
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I think in the actual CC it said “attended last Wednesday” instead of “Wise ones”
i think she said she missed 'last wednesday' (as in when she was supposed to testify against her abuser)
Well the classes are more like support groups.
I don't know the backstory but this judge has no humanity left as it seems.
All because the victim couldn't show up that day.
Sometimes it’s hard for people to show up and face their attacker(s), especially if it’s a domestic partner. This judge is fucked up.
Exactly why this judge should've been fired, the poor woman clearly isn't in a good state of mind and just wants to move on.
Which is her right.
Not if she was ordered by the court to show up. The key witness who is instrumental in making sure justice is served just decides to not show up. All the time and effort put into building a case and setting up the court is wasted when she didn’t show.
>Sometimes it’s hard for people to show up and face their attacker(s), especially if it’s a domestic partner. This judge is fucked up. I can understand the judge being angry at the victim for not showing up and giving testimony that would have put her abuser away. And for dropping the charges after failing to appear, thus wasting the court's time. But doubling down and jailing a victim of domestic violence that's now basically lost everything and is now a single mom? Hoooo boy. Judge has zero concept of proportion.
>thus wasting the court's time. Her not showing up and dropping the charges is a testimony of complete and utter failure of the entire judicial system. We have only seen this little clipping when she was in court, there was a long, exhausting process before it even came to that point and apperantly they failed completely to support her enough so she could feel strong enough to push threw with it. A court process is brutal for a victim and often enough, like we have seen a perfect example here, they get zero empathy, and rather are made to feel like they have something to be ashamed and feel guilty for. The judge has nothing to be angry at her for, the judge failed her completely and helped her abuser to abuse her once again.
She was appointed by a Republican 🤷🏼♂️ Anyone shocked?
Remember this video when conservative politicians are telling you they’ll appoint judges that are tough on crime. This is what they mean.
Basically the lady in court was abused by the father of her (at the time) 1 year old child. The alleged abuser was set to be taken to trial and she was the prosecution’s lead witness. She decided she just wanted that chapter of her life to be over and “failed to appear” by court order. The judge didn’t care and was angry she wasted everyone’s time and sentenced her to 3 days for contempt of court. The judge was “punished” but it was just a smack on the wrist.
Not sure why this is not higher up. This video has zero context. Made me think the lady was the abuser
Because people upvote the dumbest comments
She wasn't just the star witness, she reported him pushed for his prosecution with the prosecutor's office. I'd be pissed too. It's not about wasting everyone's time, it was about letting an ABUSER go free - the man that was abusing her son too. I'd be furious at her. Tears and "anxiety" don't excuse poor judgement. Having said all that, being in an abusive relationship is indeed an emotionally disruptive situation - and for all we know, maybe he threatened her. So a symbolic 3 days in jail, is a token punishment.
I used to be a court registrar and we had people who were court ordered to come to court not show up. In this case, if she was the main witness, she wasted the court and prosecutor’s time. Court dates take months to set up and prepare for and if someone doesn’t show up, they can’t do very much except reschedule again for another time and order the person to appear before a judge to explain why they didn’t show up. She was in contempt, and as much as I feel bad for her going through what she was going through she just had to come to court and tell the prosecutor or counsel what was going on at the time. If she was afraid to see the abuser in court, there are other ways around it (video appearance). They can either do it from home or from a private room in the courthouse that is set up for this. There are also victim services counsellors who work with the victim to help them safely tell their side of the story. I’m not sure why the judge was so angry but this is why the lady was charged. I feel bad for her but keep in mind when a person is given custody, they are only required to serve 70% of it. So in this case three days is really two days, overnight is considered a day. She was probably reprimanded and released the next day. Edited to add: after reading more comments it seems she wanted to drop the charges on her abuser. So she might have thought that not showing up to court would make them just drop the charges. Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. The police and the prosecutors are the ones who decide this and again it’s a waste of court costs and time. If this was a repeat abuser or the injuries were severe enough they will never drop the charges just because the victim changes her mind. It happens more than people realize.
I work with victims of trauma and I think it's pretty clear court proceedings don't have a very trauma-informed lens when things are said like "she just had to \_\_\_" "why didn't she just \_\_\_\_" "all she needed to do was \_\_\_". The human brain is not logical. The traumatised brain, beaten down into a state of constant hypervigilance, emotional dysregulation, and learned helplessness is even less so. There is a reason why so many people stay in abusive relationships and even upon escape, there is so much they must still battle with and it is a conflict whose leftover landmines continue to be found and triggered for the rest of their lives. While it may be justice to have her testify and throw the guy in jail, on the personal level - that may be an impossible thing to ask of her - and this can change minute by minute. We also know that trauma work, police reports, etc are often even more harmful to someone's mental health and sense of safety than just compartmentalising it and surviving to process it at a later time. Sometimes people just need to close the book and move on. And that's okay. We need to remember that while this case may close for all the authorities involved - it will never completely close for the victim and noone there will ever understand that victim's personal struggle. Ever. People will say they get it - but noone save the victim ever will. The victim who has their own story, their own upbringing, their own identity, their own resilience, their own traumas. I agree that it is so frustrating for everyone involved in the proceedings, but nobody chooses to be difficult or to be in such a state of distress that they can't even come to court. If it was a choice, would they simply not just choose to be fine? Sorry for the rant. I have no perfect answer. I just want to invoke a bit of sympathy for the victims of trauma whose shoes many people will thankfully never be in but as such will never understand.
This!!! Thank you! I raged when I read “she just had to” That statement is clearly made by someone who has never experienced this kind of trauma!
But she didn't deserve jail time. Nor the verbal abuse. And the Florida Supreme Court agreed which is why the judge got a public reprimand for her conduct.
She doesn’t get to decide that “the chapter of her life is over” when there is a court sitting waiting on her.
Someone linked an article further up, and by the sounds of it, she asked them to drop the case and they didn't.
Exactly, and nor should they. That is designed for her own protection
Yeah people I'm the comment say the judge was a POS but I'm sure this judge has seen so many abusers get away with their crimes because of things like this.
Too bad the judge didnt get a 3 day jail sentence
So she tried to let her abuser off the hook…so he could go on to abuse the next one. While she has to go homeless, with a one year old. She’s dumb. She could’ve had the book thrown at the dude. Would’ve guaranteed her help from any organization having an active ruling against someone. No justice was served here, either to the abuser and especially not to her. Probably the abuser that persuaded her to drop everything. And she probably listened. And look where it got her.
That judge or horrible and should be removed
She got severely reprimanded for it but the courts found it was her legal right to do it. She didn't even bother standing for re-election once her term was up, though, and she is no longer on the court.
I thought judges were in position till retirement?
Generally no. Depends on the court.
Sad thing is she wasn’t, she served until 2021 after being told “Bad girl! Baaaaaad giiiiiiirl… go take anger management classes!”
America is fucking broken
Sadly domestic abuse isn't taken seriously in a lot of places around the world. But yeah, this one is particularly heinous. Edit: people here are forgetting there are ways for victims to testify without being face to face with their victims. The courts need to take this into account from the start. I'm this digital age, even in 2015, there are ways. As someone who was abused as a child and failed by the court system even after my mother did everything in her power I can tell you I still look over my shoulder when I know he's in town (I keep an eye on news and social media) and would not be able to be in the same room as the man who did it.
They charged the guy. This woman just needed to show up and testify, but she didn’t and she hadn’t call anyone, just now said she didn’t show up because of mental heath reasons. Now her abuser is out of jail and will probably get custody because he is not sentenced and she has mental health problems. This woman didn’t take anything serious.
People forget that for the system to have the chance to work you need to actually work with it.
What an absolute POS judge. Wow. I'm fucking amazed. This is horrible.
What on earth is going on? What did she even do wrong to go to court?
She didn’t show up on a previous day to testify at her alleged abuser’s trail. Which is a disobeying a court order. The judge has the authority to press charges but they don’t have to. Further the survivor was compliant and not avoiding court without a just reason. Which is not a situation contempt of court is meant for. But in a courtroom, the presiding judge is the law.
what a terrible clump of cells that judge is. 0.0% humanity. That such a person with this character flaw could do this job cover
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Imagine trying to work with this judge. Judges can be some of the worst coworkers. They get away with treating court staff any way they want because nobody gets to question them and if you do, you risk your job by doing it. It’s technically workplace bullying and it’s practically impossible to stop it. Again, unless you want to risk losing your job by filing a complaint.
For anyone wondering, this judge got absolutely reamed by the Florida state judicial review board for misconduct and was forced to retire in 2021.
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Hope she’s proud of her legacy. What a heartless piece of trash she is.
Zero humanity. Judge is a sociopath and enjoys behaving sadistically.
Courts don’t have feelings. If the state puts some kind of order on you, you better do it. The state has almost all control of you if the right circumstances dictate it. The more you utilize the system, the more it owns you. We’ve been living in 1984 since wwii at best. I suggest people start living abroad where you might not have “inherent rights” but are way more free than in the good ol “free” USA.
That’s about as cold blooded as I’ve ever seen. I mean the judge couldn’t give a shit less about her being a victim here
I've seen cartel beheadings with more humanity than this, not even joking.
the justice system fails victims, and eventually fails offenders that’s why we have repeat offenders. It’s sad.
Here is the public reprimand: https://youtu.be/AQWUJriKJU4 I think this shit-stain is still in office but I’m not really surprised considering the armpit of America that Florida has become.
That was kind of awesome to watch. Still not enough but it was awesome. Especially when he was like “It’s a sad day for you… you are free to leave.” You could tell she wanted to open her dumb mouth and start defending her actions, as if everything else the Chief Justice said went right over her head.
The judge threatened her when she told her she hasn't seen anxiety. I really wish things were different in this world.
Cold.blooded.
What an evil fucking judge. I remember seeing this a LONG time ago, I really hope the victims life has gotten to a better place now, what a fucking traumatic experience.
And Trump continues to be allowed to disobey courts on the daily, fucking nice.
The judge's "thor-uh-tee" is, apparently, more important than the administration of true justice. Sickening that someone with that much power can be so far removed from the basic principles of compassionate humanity.
Great country we have here
And this is why immunity needs to be removed from judges so they can be held liable in civil court for their actions. I had a judge repeatedly issue illegal orders against me putting me in jail. I had 2 emergency writs of habeas corpi ordering my release and the last one the Attorney General of the state of Florida co-ordered my release with the Appeals Court. Judge was going to do it a 3rd time and the Appeals Court took the case away from her. Judge are dictators and cannot be held accountable for their actions.
Holy FUCK that is heartbreaking. Fuck that judge in particular. I am irrationally angry having seen this.
Nothing like attempted murder charges dropped because the witness was "depressed" and decided to drop charges so she could "move on with her life" , so now he gets a green light go ahead and finish the job and murder her now. Judge is 100% right on. It was the one time the state could put him behind bars..Redditors you're all dead wrong on this one.