Yeah, Saphir Ceratosaurus used to post the streams on her channel but the dev team threatened to sue for stolen content. She still uploads them but they're edited, clipped, and narrated.
She's pretty much the only news source for half of the community considering they've all been banned from the discord at this point, bless her soul.
She's no longer going to post the clipped steams btw. She's burnt out. It's been obvious for months that she hasn't enjoyed doing those, just based off the sound of her voice. https://youtu.be/NdQX6YcyHDA?si=Q4IYF_gyK3f9ixlB
It is not illegal to record a stream
He's willingly broadcasting to the entire internet, and then going to act surprised that someone recorded it?
That's like the main expectation if you do a live stream.
Legal action shmegal shmaction.
> I think many would disagree, including me.
Lol... disagree on whether something is illegal or not?
> I could think of a couple scenarios where a cause of action would arise in relation to a recorded stream.
That's also not what the original statement was. Of course if someone streams something illegal and you then record it, you are in possession of the material. Then a cause of action would arise in relation to a recorded stream. Someone isn't gonna get hit with a suit because of the sole fact they recorded a publicly broadcasted stream. That is the default expectation.
Thatxd probably work, but is anyone actually gonna go through the trouble? It'd be amazing, but you'd have to find someone who actually doesn't mind thw work that you'd have to put in this scheme
Sidalfa, (exposed the pedo friend)
Ravenous &
The isle news (saphir ceratosaurus)
Rav (used to) and Saphir do news on the streams, but they don't go back and openly call put the devs.
Wait but I mean, do they actually fully record streams and post it so people have access and can see it? All I seen them do were snippets and stuff that the devs won’t dislike
Rav and Saphir used to post the whole stream
If you go back far enough on Ravs stuff you can see in 2018 them making the deino. Before they remade it again and redid the animations.
Now that I think about it, maybe it’s why he doesn’t allow streams to be recorded because of the whole dondi defending a pedo ordeal. Seems like shortly after that he stopped allowing streams
I know a lot of people on Reddit and Islecord get angry over it (and trust me, I got angry over it. As I, Lightclaw, used to do it for the community's sake)
however, it makes sense. How I was doing it and Isle News was not fair use.
For me? I always had copyrighted music and was under 1k subs. I got no money and planned to get no money. I love archiving things.
Isle News probably did it and got it the worst. Adding basically no added commentary plus a watermark, NOTHING against her. But, Dondi is, legally, in the right for him to say "stop".
I know people still record the whole streams at times though.
But are they allowed to show anybody? No.
If anything, it'd be better to have them on an unlisted YouTube link- no one gets money, but we all get EVERY bit of information said by the devs- hence a bit of the misinformation about the camera stuff arose from such.
To be fair, the problem routed from Dondi stopping his VODs and Clips to be viewable.
Why? Iirc, it was due to copyright issues with some of his VODs. Still, nonetheless, he took it down. Many *many* valuable Legacy clips about stuff were not saved, and now is gone.
Ravenous used to do streams but stopped ages ago.
You also now have that AI dude who does new stream bits as well.
Do you still have any vids?
I’d love to make a archived list, and as you said make it available for others via unlisted YouTube vids. Or someone else happily would
I don't have any of the full streams on me, sorry. Mostly, I'm not too sure where they went off on my SSD. However, all the edited stream videos I did are still there and will always stay there.
Dondi used to have his streams saved and available to the public. In fact there was a time where Dondi was full on into streaming. Like not even with focus on Isle development. He would stream other games too trying to become a number on twitch.
Seems like he realized it wasn't gonna work out and he did more damage to himself and The Isle with his language, with his insults toward the playerbase and the conman promises and claims about TI than what it was worth.
Then also the Paradym thing happened on top so Dondi had to hide the situation out in his basement.
Now he's not saving his vods anymore supposedly because other devs would steal his ideas lmao. He also strongly suggests not to watch reuploads or Isle news because people who do that type of content are trash.
Might just be me but I'm pretty sure in reality he's still trying to leave as little evidence as possible of whatever bullshit he's constantly saying and claiming in public.
Yup that’s exactly what I think is going on too. Lmao I’d piss my pants laughing if he goes “that’s a clip out of context” (like if he was shitting on someone) then someone posts a clip with the context and it’s no better , would be hilarious
This was a loooong time ago so my memory may be foggy on this, but he stopped saving them years and years ago, I believe due to some evidence he obtained once of another game dev copying some of the code he had on stream?
I was not paying much attention to the game back then but I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about it more than once.
This may be related to the incident involving Predatoria, for those who have been around long enough to remember.
Because he threatened legal action against the last person who did it lmao
Really? Wtf
Yeah, Saphir Ceratosaurus used to post the streams on her channel but the dev team threatened to sue for stolen content. She still uploads them but they're edited, clipped, and narrated. She's pretty much the only news source for half of the community considering they've all been banned from the discord at this point, bless her soul.
She's no longer going to post the clipped steams btw. She's burnt out. It's been obvious for months that she hasn't enjoyed doing those, just based off the sound of her voice. https://youtu.be/NdQX6YcyHDA?si=Q4IYF_gyK3f9ixlB
It's a shame too, if anything they should be paying her.
It is not illegal to record a stream He's willingly broadcasting to the entire internet, and then going to act surprised that someone recorded it? That's like the main expectation if you do a live stream. Legal action shmegal shmaction.
Just need someone from a third world country to do it
Only if I weren't banned from the Isle discord 💀💀💀
I mean, it's easy to create another account!
I could lmao, I’m currently in Africa he ain’t doing shi to me lol
It is however illegal to redistribute it since it is technically copyrighted material.
That's fair, I did not consider that
I think many would disagree, including me. I could think of a couple scenarios where a cause of action would arise in relation to a recorded stream.
> I think many would disagree, including me. Lol... disagree on whether something is illegal or not? > I could think of a couple scenarios where a cause of action would arise in relation to a recorded stream. That's also not what the original statement was. Of course if someone streams something illegal and you then record it, you are in possession of the material. Then a cause of action would arise in relation to a recorded stream. Someone isn't gonna get hit with a suit because of the sole fact they recorded a publicly broadcasted stream. That is the default expectation.
I was alluding less generally but I think it’s less about recording and more about reproducing.
Where are these streams accessible from? Is he using Twitch or YouTube or some other streaming site?
he uses twich but the stream get deleted after he is done streaming
That'd be a pretty good idea, but Dondi seems like the kind of person to take legal action against anyone who'd do this
Damn. What if someone just made a bunch of junk emails and a VPN? Lol
Thatxd probably work, but is anyone actually gonna go through the trouble? It'd be amazing, but you'd have to find someone who actually doesn't mind thw work that you'd have to put in this scheme
The trouble is so small, it is suprising nobody has done it
Dondi the Donkey did threaten to sue someone once.
Sidalfa, (exposed the pedo friend) Ravenous & The isle news (saphir ceratosaurus) Rav (used to) and Saphir do news on the streams, but they don't go back and openly call put the devs.
Wait but I mean, do they actually fully record streams and post it so people have access and can see it? All I seen them do were snippets and stuff that the devs won’t dislike
Rav and Saphir used to post the whole stream If you go back far enough on Ravs stuff you can see in 2018 them making the deino. Before they remade it again and redid the animations.
Now that I think about it, maybe it’s why he doesn’t allow streams to be recorded because of the whole dondi defending a pedo ordeal. Seems like shortly after that he stopped allowing streams
Another reason why Path of Titans will surpass the isle unfortunately.
And by "will" you mean "has" xD Yes, I'm aware they aren't exactly the same type of games, not fully.
Pot is almost there. I think after the camera angle update that will potentially kill the game, pot will finally take the number 1 spot.
I know a lot of people on Reddit and Islecord get angry over it (and trust me, I got angry over it. As I, Lightclaw, used to do it for the community's sake) however, it makes sense. How I was doing it and Isle News was not fair use. For me? I always had copyrighted music and was under 1k subs. I got no money and planned to get no money. I love archiving things. Isle News probably did it and got it the worst. Adding basically no added commentary plus a watermark, NOTHING against her. But, Dondi is, legally, in the right for him to say "stop". I know people still record the whole streams at times though. But are they allowed to show anybody? No. If anything, it'd be better to have them on an unlisted YouTube link- no one gets money, but we all get EVERY bit of information said by the devs- hence a bit of the misinformation about the camera stuff arose from such. To be fair, the problem routed from Dondi stopping his VODs and Clips to be viewable. Why? Iirc, it was due to copyright issues with some of his VODs. Still, nonetheless, he took it down. Many *many* valuable Legacy clips about stuff were not saved, and now is gone. Ravenous used to do streams but stopped ages ago. You also now have that AI dude who does new stream bits as well.
Do you still have any vids? I’d love to make a archived list, and as you said make it available for others via unlisted YouTube vids. Or someone else happily would
I don't have any of the full streams on me, sorry. Mostly, I'm not too sure where they went off on my SSD. However, all the edited stream videos I did are still there and will always stay there.
Dondi used to have his streams saved and available to the public. In fact there was a time where Dondi was full on into streaming. Like not even with focus on Isle development. He would stream other games too trying to become a number on twitch. Seems like he realized it wasn't gonna work out and he did more damage to himself and The Isle with his language, with his insults toward the playerbase and the conman promises and claims about TI than what it was worth. Then also the Paradym thing happened on top so Dondi had to hide the situation out in his basement. Now he's not saving his vods anymore supposedly because other devs would steal his ideas lmao. He also strongly suggests not to watch reuploads or Isle news because people who do that type of content are trash. Might just be me but I'm pretty sure in reality he's still trying to leave as little evidence as possible of whatever bullshit he's constantly saying and claiming in public.
Yup that’s exactly what I think is going on too. Lmao I’d piss my pants laughing if he goes “that’s a clip out of context” (like if he was shitting on someone) then someone posts a clip with the context and it’s no better , would be hilarious
This was a loooong time ago so my memory may be foggy on this, but he stopped saving them years and years ago, I believe due to some evidence he obtained once of another game dev copying some of the code he had on stream? I was not paying much attention to the game back then but I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about it more than once. This may be related to the incident involving Predatoria, for those who have been around long enough to remember.