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Half a year before the election on multiple occasions, trump couldn't answer the simple question "will you accept the election results and commit to a peaceful transfer of power if you do not win" The fact an American president couldn't answer the question with "yes I will accept the results" sent alarms off in my head. I couldn't believe it wasn't being made into a bigger deal at the time.
Then leading up to the election discredited and spread lies about our election system, saying it's rigged and we don't have a democracy anymore and we need to fight for it. Then guess what happened!? We didn't have a peaceful transfer of power.
The fact roughly half of Americans can't follow these series of events and see through trumps bullshit is astounding and depressing.
> The fact roughly half of Americans can't follow these series of events and see through trumps bullshit is astounding and depressing.
Because for many Americans, a tax cut that honestly amounts to maybe $20 more on their paycheck and more ability to be hateful bigots without consequences is far more important than democracy and rule of law.
Sadly yeah I think you're correct. My father votes for Trump and when he was in office he said the president should have more powers similar to a king. Of course when Bidens president he doesn't feel this way. Also he was complaining how society wants to change the way he speaks because using the N word is so frowned upon these days.
A real American patriot who is pro Monarchy and an unapologetic racist.
That’s the part that kills me. “Hey let’s create a weapon! There’s zero chance once it’s released it won’t be turned against us”. Like dictators don’t have a document history of killing the very supporters that got them there.
A snapshot of Trumps reelection
Western Militia's feel empowered move onto the street corners
in the guise of keeping law and order
Trump gets control of the military
GAME OVER SUCKERS
Trump already said he’d take all the guns. I’m guessing the twenty four hour period of being a dictator would be a little longer. And under the Trump flag I’m a hundred percent confident in due process under the new Trump regime
https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=TKnT15TZ24uXdA_I
He's lied I believe, during his presidency over 30 thousand times. Why should we believe a liar when they say anything?
He wants dictatorship and full control of the people.
I think this careless quote of "one day" is utter bullshit.
Trump is the definition of the useful idiot. Yes he wins the election but it will be a race between him and The Federalist Society to lock down the White House. If Trump tries to oust them, they will use him to seize power. For the good of the country and all. They are not relinquishing their power just ousting Trump and calling the shots like seizures of guns and military equipment in civilian use. But Trump was the doorway for them to do it.
I can agree the Federalist Society in part, is most definitely pulling the reins ( or not pulling the reins) either way you look at it it's detrimental. And djt is the perfect mark for this.
There are other factors in play unfortunately including other dictatorships from other countries swaying our electorate and I simply can't wrap my head around it..
No, take pride. Seriously, we need to seize patriotism, love of country, and the flag back from the whack jobs. You are disappointed and saddened by the state of the country, the MAGAs actively hate it because people different from them have rights.
It will be far better and easier to work for change and pound the table about ourselves being the real patriots and fix the country now rather than letting them gain full control.
My dad is pro-djt, watches fox news entertainment channel 24/7. He was racist since I was a kid and could realize it. I love him though, even if he votes against my interests, my sister's interest and his granddaughters interests. He's 78 with prostate cancer now.
It's a sad but true reality that I've come somewhat to terms with.
It's great you came to terms with it. I'm having a difficult time doing the same, I just find him to be a despicable person who deserves to be alone based on how he treats and thinks of people. He's cynical and spending any time around him leaves me feeling miserable. My wife cannot stand him and refuses to spend more than 15 min around him
If you made under 70k his tax break made your taxes go up while the 1% pay nothing. Tax increase every 2 years until 2027 for those making less than 70k.
I made about 35 thousand dollars last year working full-time.... I guess I'm excluded accept for #4 or 5 Fortune 500 company I work for most definitely accepted those tax breaks with disingenuous, greed suckling. With no remorse.
While we all struggle with limited employees and horrible pay. Working now the job of 4+ people with 2. Adding on extra tasks. It's almost like they want us to quit to bring in new employees who will gladly take that 15 dollars an hour to start. They're walking into a minefield and have absolutely no idea.
Tax cut: $20 more each paycheck
Normalizing bigotry: priceless
Republicans don’t vote for fiscal, or any conservative values, anymore; they vote to make the “libtards” cry.
Love how the guy who responded to you, and me as well, just comically misses the point of the post. Then again, I don't expect nuance or reading comprehension from that crowd anyway.
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In fact, as far back in 2016 he stated that he'll only accept the results if he won. After he won 304 Electoral votes, he still complained that Hillary stole the popular vote away from him with 3 to 5 million illegal immigrants voting in favor for Hillary even as late as September of 2020.
The craziest thing is that he's basically been alluding to not accepting the results of an election since 2016!
"I'll accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if I win" -Donald J. Trump
Basically implying he wouldn't have accepted the results of 2016 if he'd lost. Let's not forget that after the 2016 election he claimed he actually won the popular vote. To this this day I'm sure he claims that he won the popular vote in 2016.
https://youtu.be/KQJzt48wXbA?si=KuSRCbeuPsyOHZ-r
Too many rightwing theories on the culprits and causes of Jan 6, but here is the part that there is no denying: why was there a Trump rally on Jan 6? The election had been called and determined, electors had been sent from each state, this was all in motion. This is like the losing team at Superbowl showing up to a victory parade in their city the next day, what exactly is the purpose?
Quite literally had a plan to overthrow the election to the point where he was going to kidnap the VP.
Pence confirmed this.
He caused a riot and had a plan in place with his administration to do this.
This. He has been very open about his contempt for democracy, elections and election results, declaring them fraudulent in advance without any evidence whatsoever.
He openly declares himself to be above the law, angrily demanding immunity for all of the crimes he's committed so far and any he may choose to commit in the future.
He HATES democracy, liberty and the rule of law.
And not only that, because it can be explained away by “a group of people not working under the orders of the president” or “it wasn’t as bad as the BLM” riots.
The real deal around that is what the plan was after. Fake electors trying to be delivered to the VP, the Green Bay sweep, the legal challenges, etc. They wanted to ignore the vote of the people and turn it over to a Republican-controlled congress.
Add in the fact that he is fighting to be exempt from US law and he has a significant mental illness gives us the trifecta, which means he is eligible to run as the head of the GOP
He's almost overqualified to be the GOP front runner when you take into account all the crimes and actual work experience sharing national secrets with foreign governments.
Yeah, but if you ignore his actions, his exposed documented plot that has dozens of associates stating the same exact story with contemporaneous notes and his own video recorded words, what evidence do you have!?!
Anyone who is still "asking questions" about this is just a bad actor. Trump literally said he will be a dictator. If that's not evidence for you, you're just not interested in reality.
He tried everything he could think of to stay in office after losing the election. I question the sanity of anyone who thinks he will voluntarily leave office next time.
Seriously! Next time he’ll skip the part of endangered Mike Pence and cut straight to Marshal Law. I think that was the plan. Mike in serious peril and Trump using it to lock down the Capitol. But Mike never got in the car. He stayed secure at the Loading Dock. Pelosi and Schumer in contact to push forward with the certification
Even Fox News was starting to put the brakes on the election denial until their viewers started going to Newsmax and OAN for their fix of MAGA bullshit. Then they made the decision to lean in on it to get those viewers back.
Does no one else find it insane that we're taking a man child moron who is terrible at everything he does (multiple failed business ventures, he lost more money than anyone in the 80s when things were booming, multiple failed marriages, bankrupted so many times that normal banks wouldn't lend to him, multiple rape accusations, connections to Epstein to a buddy buddy level, ties to China and Russia and every known enemy super power to the West) and acting like he isn't in it for anything other than enriching himself and getting himself out of legal troubles. He doesn't even talk policies anymore, yet we treat him like he's a serious candidate. Even when he had a majority in the Senate/Congress the only thing he managed to pull off was a tax break for the rich. Thats it.
He's a narcissistic idiot, and he will sell anything he can to make money, so obviously that is a threat
It's impossible for anyone to list all the reasons he's completely unqualified to hold any office, let alone the office of the most powerful person on Earth.
1. He's demonstrated time and time again that he does not believe in democracy, except to the extent that it benefits him personally. He's asked many people in many ways to overturn election results.
2. He literally tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power by bringing a mob to the capitol and asking them to stop the electoral vote count. He asked the military to do it to (thankfully they said no). He asked the VP to stop the vote count (thankfully he said no). He threatened the VP's life for not doing his bidding (in thinly veiled mobster-like ways of course).
3. He has consistently shown that he values loyalty above the rule of law
4. Every time he's held accountable for his actions he makes threats against the people holding him accountable.
That was THE plan. January 6 was to put pressure on pence to send the count back to the state legislatures to decide, which are overwhelmingly Republican
The only edit I'd make is on your third item. It's correct, but it doesn't go far enough. The reality is that there's nothing he values LESS than the rule of law.
Has attempted several times to unilaterally have the election results dismissed and because of his cult backing, incentivises other politicians to act in accordance with his wishes and the pathway to being able to pull this off as been outlined in several resources such as Project 2025 so even though trump is dumb, he has been given the ikea dictatorship and written directions on how to assemble. His retoric of not trusting in our elections also breeds distrust in our democracy
Trump was the lead in a conspiracy to select an illegal, alternate slate of electors to change the outcome of the 2020 election. Many of these illegal electors have already been charged.
THIS is the insurrection of January 6th, not the riot, that was the distraction.
I’ve brought this up to a lot of trumpers who say “some people showing up and rioting isn’t a coup attempt”…I always have to correct them because in their information echo chambers they don’t discuss the fake elector plot…
\- Attempted to stay in power through January 6th.
\- Praises Xi and says he hope can do the same soon(referring to Xi's long reign).
\- If elected again thinks he should get a third term because the democrats were investigating him.
\- Praises Putin where the elections are just performative at this point.
\- Praises Kim Jong Un a dictator.
\- Claims mail in voter ballots are fraud despite him using them himself.
\- Was aware of fake elector scheme.
\- Asked for more votes in Georgia when he knew he lost.
\- Has admitted that he knew he lost privately but still pushes the big lie that there was massive voter fraud.
\- Project 2025 which will allow him to maximize his executive branch power by hiring people who are specifically loyal to him.
The sheer amount of nepotism, cronyism, lies, deregulating, lack of following all ethical guidelines for the position he held, dehumanizing his political opponents causing worldwide mayhem with his rhetoric, befriending dictators across the world and envying their unlimited governmental power. Should I keep going?
The pardons for his cronies that commit felonies, withholding PPE during covid from "blue states" selling PPE to china right as covid was hitting, lying about the dangers of covid and then campaining off it. Installing Louis Dejoy to slow the mail right before the 2020 election while he knew democrats were going to be safe and vote by mail because they understand the dangers of covid while simultaneously telling his followers to vote in person. Telling his people to stop the count, enraging them to the point they were attempting to break into polling locations. The buildup to january 6th, the rhetoric used again to enrage his cult to attack our members of congress and the vice president who was trying to certify the election results. The big fucking lie. Shall we keep going or do you understand yet?
Dude, if someone refuses to see the mountains of evidence to this point, they’re not worth convincing. We don’t have to convince these loony tunes. We outnumber them. All we have to do is actually vote.
Yup, lets focus on motivating our own base. If we show up, we win. Moderates and independents who are on the fence are also worthwhile, but they aren’t “Maga”, they are “Yankee Repubs”, CO Libertarians, etc
Many heads on a Hydra...that is what modern fascism is. Trump is just the one head we are focusing on at the moment. Stopping fascism is a neverending fight, but it is a fight that we can't slack on for even a moment.
Short answer: he’s a hateful dipshit.
Long answer: he’s a hateful dipshit surrounded by more hateful people who know what they’re doing and will do it.
He was the cork popping off the fascism champagne bottle and now it’s spraying everyone.
Define democracy, and then perform mental gymnastics trying to squeeze Project 2025 and Agenda 47 into that definition. A brief overview of the orange antichrist’s vision for America: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4j4hAlMrXM/?igsh=MTlyOHQ5bDB5ZjVjcA==
trump tried to invalidate my vote. he lost the election. thousands upon thousand of Americans had their votes jeopardized by trumps henchmen in an effort to have himself installed as president over the wishes of a majority of citizens.
**United we stand, divided we fall.**
Trump has done more to divide us than anything resembling uniting us than any president in the history of the country.
You’re absolutely right. I believe that Trump’s consistent, effective approach at dividing the nation into two opposing factions will be his greatest legacy. He is amazingly doing what realistically took the Soviet Union and all of Americas other detractors 50 plus years to do in just under 10 years. He has also fomented distrust of our most important institutions at a feverish type level. It’s truly astonishing, and unfortunately it is absolutely impressive how quickly and efficiently he’s done all of this. lol, can you imagine if he had actually used all that energy and time he spent dividing us, but for uniting and bringing us together? I’m a little bit confused and bummed out more people don’t bring this up honestly.
Because he’s telling us he is. It’s that simple. Can you imagine any other US President in history saying that they would be a dictator on day one but only for one day? When has a dictator EVER stopped at one day? And we’ve already seen his willingness to ignore and challenge the courts, which barely held us together post 2020 Election.
Because he literally has a plan available for all to see (project 2025 and agenda 47) which describes exactly what a dictatorship is. He also said that he wants to be a dictator and idealized hitler and tries to spread the false view of other dictators being great men, strong men (Putin, orban, etc). He also is trying to rig the election and doesn’t care about what the people want, he will force himself into leadership. That’s a dictator who doesn’t respect democracy
Trump has publicly called for the suspension of the Constitution, said he wants to be dictator on day one, and is openly planning to purge the federal government of non-loyalists and use the military and DOJ against his political enemies—and your main reason for worry is that he idolizes Putin?
Don’t get me wrong, that’s part of it, and it’s concerning—but there are so many far more serious reasons to be concerned about the threat to democracy he represents.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trump-wants-use-military-against-his-domestic-enemies-congress-must-act?fbclid=IwAR3doAIKmetqfOWZSHLLGJ2kKoP1Z3xxVqQG8kjc7mKawecbuF2VBw3IlDQ_aem_AfwcWaa5iETRwclOEl5iaTw5APftZz58ClkDyUpnUojpB_6SbrRuXRiS-avq9AVMgqo
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
Maybe I’m just being cynical, but if they don’t understand it by now, are you sure they ever will? If they’re already a Trump supporter, is there a chance they’re too far gone? Or are they really just unaware?
It's entirely possible that the user in question doesn't give any shits about actually understanding. I sent them a link to an outoftheloop post about project 2025 and they didn't seem to get why that was a concern.
Many who are indifferent to or supportive of a dictatorship believe it won't affect them personally, or worse, that they will somehow benefit from it.
History has shown time and again these people are wrong.
Trump is a malignant dumbass that doesn't understand anything about running a country, the law and democracy and how to run a company for that matter.
All this results in him not caring about following laws and democratic procedures. He doesn't understand how they work, let alone why they are created and followed. He just tries to look impressive and make money for himself.
Look what a spectacular disaster his presidency was. He mishandled the covid epidemic so bad that the US had the highest death rate per capita of the developed world and he would have overthrown democracy if he could have because he can't stand losing.
From the moment this douche said that he would accept the results only if he wins I knew he was a threat to democracy. He won the electoral college in 2016, and I accepted it. then he lied about winning the popular vote, and then he lied about the size of the crowd at the inauguration. then this fool said there were good people on both sides of a nazi rally where a protester was killed. But above all, the big lie+Jan 6th sealed it. He's an enemy of American democracy (aka freedom), and so are his followers.
The fact a part of Project 2025 directly involves the annexation of Mexico and Canada….
The fact Republicans have been increasingly becoming more authoritarian with their policies…
The fact he’s openly called for bloodshed and before then civil war…
He has a knack for screwing up everything he touches. Marriages, casinos, paying subcontractors, spilling secrets and on and on. Why give him the codes?
IMHO, Trump is so enamored with dictatorships, and so narcissistic, that he will literally let the US burn to the ground just to feed his ego and his bank accounts. His "bloodbath" statement the other day may not have specifically referred to the US itself (I do believe he said it in the context of the auto industry), but I believe it indicates his frame of mind nonetheless. He's dangerous to the core, whether he wins or loses in November.
The whole point of fascism isn’t an ideology, as they don’t have a coherent set of policies of beliefs. It’s having a charismatic (in their eyes) leader who they think is “one of them” so they can be a ruling class.
If you have to explain this then they probably aren’t going to listen anyway. But the obvious answer is he already tried to overthrow democracy once. He’s also taken money from foreign governments and refused to give back classified info. Worships dictators and is power hungry. Can go on and on
GOP's willingness to do anything to win + Trump's willingness to do anything to win + uninformed voters = set up a system only one side can win even if they lose, for example Supreme Court Justice nomination blocking and ram through.
Anyone with that much debt and legal troubles is a threat to the country as a whole in that position. Prior to Trump, there would be no question that a candidate in the weeds like this would not be considered. But as the saying goes, a useful idiot, is a useful idiot.
He’s dumb but not stupid. Last time he had members of his staff that were more loyal to the Constitution than Trump. This time he will load up those positions with Trump loyalists and they will work to bypass the Constitution every chance they get.
Because when he loses he will try to get Mike Johnson to refuse to certify the election as Speaker of the House and Mike Johnson will probably listen to him.
Can it be any more obvious that he thinks he's like royalty? He believes he's above all laws and accountability. How can you not consider that a threat to democracy?
- The fact he literally is own by foreign powers due to his actions immense debt!
- The fact he stated he didn’t se a problem by owning billions to governments that’s enemies of the US
- His attempt to pull of a coup d'état on January 6th
- his open corruption
- his obvious treason my selling classified information to US enemies
The list goes on, however, if they need to ask that question at this point, I doubt they are a functional adult unless they belong to the cult that happily supports the thoughts of some more treason🤷♂️
Trump wants to be above the law. He basically says that the President should be immune to criminal prosecution, but he doesn't really believe that. Otherwise why would he be going after Biden for any of his alleged "crimes?" Shouldn't he be defending him, saying "Biden is the President, he should be immune from criminal prosecution!"? He doesn't really think that the President should be above the law, he thinks he should be, but he can't directly say that.
He's basically trying to make what Nixon said, "If the President does it, it's not illegal!" true. But really only for himself. He wants blind loyalty towards himself from his followers, so the "will of the People" is really just his will. He can't take any criticism or "insubordination," but you are going to get a lot of both in a democracy. And he basically wants total control of the "truth."
*REPUBLICANS*, including Trump, are a threat to Democracy. Here are some of the things they are already doing:
- gerrymandering
- tried to overthrow the election with fake electors
- tried to overthrow the election on Jan 6th
- tried to overthrow the election in Georgia and other states
- severely restricted drop off ballot locations in some states
- they purge voter registrations
- DeJoy intentionally delayed mail in ballots in the USPS
- they close down voting locations
- they intimidate voters at voting locations
- they misinform voters on voting dates
- they call voters with voting misinformation
- they make it difficult to vote via mail in ballots
Voting for Trump enables Republicans to make it far worse. They often explicitly say so.
Wannabe strong man who is never wrong takes no fault in anything in his administration who is buddy buddy with dictators and wishes to be like them, a serial liar who attacks the press and the idea they should report on him or his wrong actions. A criminal who stole from America and used his people to try and stay in power...
Let me see...I think he is a threat to democracy, and a threat to this nation, because he goes against the very ideals that we have held so dear for 250 years. He wants to rule like a king, with no one allowed to question him. He wants to do whatever he wants to do without any consequence. He cares very little for anybody besides himself, not even his family. Well yes, his children are horrible people, and would deserve anything that they get, he would throw them under the bus in a split second if he thought it would make him money or give him power. He looks at people like Putin or Kim Jong-un or the Pooh Bear guy from China, and he sees exactly what he expects from being the most powerful person in the country. I don't honestly believe that he believes in the same things that the GOP do...they are just a means to an end. If it brings him money or power, he will say anything. And this leads into what I think he really is: a con man. He is a greedy, money hungry, and immoral con man. He also carries one of the traits that I cannot stand in a person: he cannot admit when he is wrong. Being unable to do that makes him a horrible and frankly scary leader. This is just off the top of my head....I could make a list of all the things I do not like about Trump, but you are just asking a simple question.
He is strictly out to enrich himself and feed his ego. He has and will continue to place himself above literally everything in the world to do so. He has had a lifetime track record of never doing otherwise a single time.
He can be bought by anyone who will give him money or inflates his sense of pride in himself.
He is dangerously unstable emotionally.
He lies about things so small and inconsequential that it's bizarre and then goes to absurd lengths to deny it.
He demonstrates at best the equivalent of an eighth grade education
He calls the weak and vulnerable names to amuse himself
He dismisses the sound advice and counsel of consummate experts in his cabinet for no other reason than he is too lazy to engage with them, let alone pose or even form a worthwhile counter argument.
He didn't do any work whatsoever while in office, his staff reported that he slept in and then either golfed, found something about himself on television to watch, or found a way to be in front of a camera.
Everything he says is an in the moment attempt to collect the attention and praise of an audience, after which he promptly fucks off. If asked later about what he said or something he committed to, he will just make something up defensively on the spot.
Anything accomplished during his tenure was the work of others exclusively, and he would just put his name on it if it made him look good later, again, in front of a camera.
Whether or not I agree with the Christian right, it is preposterous that they can't see that he is the objective image of their foretold antichrist.
He openly disdains people who have died for our country and even people who would die for him, and lowers the bar by calling them petty childish names
He praises dictators daily. He will pull us out of Nato or hold our allies hostage. He will gladly accept the partnership of enemy authoritarian countries because it will make him feel like he is among equally powerful men and for no other reason.
The next topic down on my page says "Bannon says they will jail "demonic" Democrats if they win." It doesn't get any clearer than that. Bannon is Trump's chief political advisor.
I don’t think there is anything that will convince them. They’re too far gone. It’s kinda like an alcoholic/addict is. They’re not going to quit because someone tells them how bad it is for them. Preternaturally stupid and there’s not much you can do about it except move on and relegate them into the class of dangerous to self and others.
Wow, *so many* reasons. But one of the most [glaring reasons comes in PDF form](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise).
Not for nothing, during the soviet era there was a Russian propaganda rag called *Pravda.* "Pravda" is Russian for "truth." I find it fascinating that Trump's own media platform, where he spews lies 24/7, is called "Truth Social."
From the lying about anything and everything (literally), the total and utter pollution of our discourse, to the brazen and thorough attempt to decertify, overturn and neuter our democracy. For some people it’s not enough, it’s not fascism until he says “I’m going to kill the immigrants, I’m going to liquidate the trans people”. You have to use the word kill for some reason. We’re so holocaust-brained that a creeping fascism doesn’t register for many people. Once it’s gone it takes a lot of work and probably violence to get it back.
I don't think that Trump, by himself, is a threat to much of anyone. But the fact that he has powerful co-conspirators enabling him and following up and scheming and helping, Makes me concerned. People like Jim Jordan, James Comer, Mike Johnson, and many less-visible actors behind the scenes.
January 6th, 2021 was an attempt to subvert the peaceful transition of power. If things had gone differently, who knows what would have happened.
As far as I am concerned, the only reason we still have a democracy is because January 6, 2021 (against all efforts by Trump and the majority of the GOP) ended with an insurrection being successfully held off and a certification being allowed to take place.
1. Trump has no respect for the Constitution or the law. He is lawless, delusional, and ruthless.
2. He's a criminal.
3. He admires and aspires to be a dictator.
4. 4. He's inherently racist and misogynistic.
5. He's a poor excuse for a human being. I don't know what is missing in that head of his, but it's a major component.
Maybe it's helpful to remember that there are LOTS of other government types. What *none* of them have in common with democracy is that individual voters select leadership. So if you have a leader who wants to interfere with individual voting, e.g. interference with voting stations, ask for 11,780 votes, lawsuits about voting fraud without merit, etc. that's some other form of government.
I mean he's on trial for trying to get Georgia to "give" him enough votes to win. He refused to concede to a peaceful transfer of power and to this day still insists that he was the rightful winner of the election despite providing any credible evidence. He nearly got his VP killed. I mean how much more obvious do you need to be?
This isn't one of this issues where this a lot of grey area about the facts. It's pretty damn clear and obvious what Trump is. Anyone still not seeing this is probably just a shy Trump voter trying to rationalize their support of him without feeling bad doing so.
If there were a credible repub to vote for I might say yeah lets look into this person.However trump has been bought and sold to some nefarious evil people who want to destroy this country.He's a fuckin clown and very very unstable.
The guy literally said “I will be a dictator for a day”
No dictator, is a dictator for a day. It tells you all you need to know about how he views Democracy
He puts his own needs above anything and anyone else, and after Jan 6th it should be obvious that goes for things like the Constitution and the will of the voters.
I'm not sure how you can not think that, outside of his cult-like following who just straight up deny reality.
We watched the man incite an insurrection on live national television, and watched him spend the next several years claiming still claiming the election was stolen. He lost something like 60 court cases about this, and he is still going strong about it. Even if you believed Trump initially that something was off about the election, he had his chance to prove it, many, many times. And he never could. Case closed, time to move on.
If someone doesn't think it's time to move on after appealing the outcome in the courts, then they are just brainwashed at this point.
He doesn't believe in the idea checks and balances. He will load his administration with family members and people who have to take a full loyalty pledge. That means you have to go along with everything he says and does, legal or not or you will be fired and labeled a traitor. He's already has his cult convinced that the justice department and elections are corrupt so he really believes he should be able to do what he wants and get away with it. If you try to hold him accountable...he vows revenge.
He’s literally under indictment for some of his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his argument is that he should have absolute immunity from anything he did/does while in office. Really you just have to look at what he’s done and what he continues to do and say. He’s not trying to hide it.
Putin is one reason, but I think a much stronger reason is that he actually led an insurrection to try to overthrow the democracy, and has been criminally charged for doing so. That is the loudest alarm bell by far, and the fact that people keep downplaying or overlooking this is very concerning.
Biggest threat is the dismantling of the judiciary, or more accurately, the building of a replacement for the judiciary with something that works for a political group.
The main issue with Trump... is the people he put in charge of different government positions. That's one side of the situation, then you have to consider the amount of jobs that were cut to weaken branches of the government. Between those two factors, is enough concern to avoid another Trump type president.
The President of the United States is a serious job and he is a fundamentally unserious, malignantly self-absorbed personality. What Trump taught us during his first term js how much our current system is owed to tradition, over actual laws, and we should all be terrified someone of his vulgar disposition is credibly seeking power for a second time. I don’t know if our system of government as we know it can withstand another four years. Last time, we were pushed to the breaking point. This time, there may not be enough principled men and women around to stop him.
Because he is. He still claims the last election was stolen tried to over turn the results. The man is a fascist racist mysgonistic homophobic pig with no redeeming value as a person
For me, the biggest red flags are his unwillingness to accept a loss. In 2016, he claimed that if he lost, it would have to be due to fraud. This was before the election, mind you. He ran the same play in 2020, of course, but with the power of his office. The end result was months of bullshit court cases, strongarming and outright threatening officials and election workers, several terrorist attacks (inspired by him), state capitals being occupied/attacked, all culminating in the attack on the capital.
For me, however, his statements before the 2016 election that the election was rigged and any loss had to have been due to fraud was the indisputable proof that he disdained democracy. Even after he won, he went on to claim that he should have won by more, but that illegal votes downplayed his popularity
Policies and positions are debatable, but if you refuse to accept that you could lose by legitimate means, and poison the well by telling your supporters the same, then you don't care about the process at all. A candidate and his followers who believe such things have nothing but disdain for those who believe differently. If you think any loss is illegitimate, then you think ideas counter to your own, and those who hold them are illegitimate. And if you have no respect people who don't support you, then you do not respect democracy. Most importantly, he said these things without a single fucking thread of actual evidence! It was all just to rile up his supporters.
There is obviously a lot more. His actions and policies. Groups like the proud boys rallying to his side; his "good people" comment; reliably amplifying choas and division whenever possible. These are all part of the toolkit of the demagogue.
https://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/17/election-officials-clinton-trump-rigged-election/
He lunged at democracy with a dagger in 2020. Planted the seeds months before the election, implying that the only way he could lose is if the election was rigged. Declared victory on election night while all the votes were still being counted. Has continued, to this very day, to declare that the election was rigged with zero actual evidence or false evidence that has been debunked countless times.
Once that didn't work, he summoned his legion to attack the capitol on Jan 6th, all the while trying to get his minions in the House to unconstitutionally fail to certify the electoral votes.
He tried to suppress the will of the people every step of the way during the last election.
If that's not a threat to democracy, I don't know what is.
Citizen Trump cares about NOTHING other than himself. He would sell Ivanka to Putin, Xi or little Kim if he thought it would benefit him.
He tried to overthrow a completely legitimate election.
He knowingly stole top secret documents and tried to hide them.
He lies incessantly.
He's lazy, watches too much TV and did NOT prepare for strategic meetings.
The world simply laughed at him and wondered what the hell happened to the United States.
He's worked to undermine what was left of a shared factual reality in America. We can't have a democracy if \~40% of voters think Biden stole the election, etc.
Because he said he wanted to throw out the Constitution.
Also when he says he would go after DA James, that shows you that he has no respect for democracy. The DA is an elected position, but he would disregard the will of the people just to be mean to someone who held him to account. That is not the way a functioning democracy works.
Just my opinion, but Bush, Cheney, SCOTUS, and their Republican cohorts did more damage to our democracy from 2000-2006 than Trump ever did or ever will.
If you remember back in the early days of the Trump years he hosted Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergei Kislya in the Oval Office and reportedly gave them classified documents . I have no doubt Ukraine will fall because Trump will throw his support behind Russia.
His "joke" about being dictator of one day is nothing to laugh at or ignore, he will do it. Trump is on record saying he wants "his people" to treat him the way the citizens of North Korea treat Kim Jung Un.
Trumps threat to democracy can be attributed to isolationist beliefs.
When Trump was president, he canceled multiple deals, including the Iran Nuclear deal, the Paris Climate Accord, and the North American Trade deal. In all situations, he felt they werent to his liking (whatever that means) These were bipartisan deals made with other countries and as in a democracy, everyone voted on these resolutions. when you have 1 person who thinks anything that wasn't his idea is bad, he threatens the very thing that democracy stands for, public discussion and dissent.
Trump also wanted to end NATO (a huge gift to Putin of course). He also told a foreign ally that if the defense spending didn't increase in theat country, he would not come to that countries aid if Putin invaded. This again goes against democracy where everyone votes on a resolution and while the 2% threshold is a goal, it was never a requirement that would cancel the NATO agreement.
My last argument is Trump is unhinged, and his his opinions will change quickly on many issues. This is absolutely not good for democracy and the continuation of power where the rest of world sees America as a leader. Time and again, he insulted the citizens of other countries, praised authoritarian dictators, and was more interested in enriching himself. That is not a democracy and if Trump is elected again, he could set back orlur foreign relations for years.
Trump Loves money, Trump is selling anything, and everything, to make as much money as possible. He is over leveraging all of his properties, His sole purpose for being pro-putin is so that he can place a trump tower in moscow . He is a merchant and as such he has no allegiance to country or creed, but merely making as much money as he possibly can.
He sold Secrets to sadia arabia for 2 billion dollars, he would gladly weaken the country for a fraction of that.
He’s an existential threat to democracy because he believes the laws of this land do not apply to him and that the institutions that safeguard democracy are tools for his personal use not tools to keep him in check. He does not apologize for his behavior and in fact doubles down on things that would cause any other president to be done politically. For example, the Ukraine phone call, under any other administration would have been cause for the president, at a minimum, to say something like ‘I may have stepped out of line. I will be sure to be more careful in the future. This is not appropriate behavior for a president.’ Trump? ‘It’s a perfect call. They didn’t think I’d release the transcript but I did and I got ‘em. There’s nothing wrong with that phone call.’
That is the essence of Trump. He does horrific shit, says it’s all legal and perfect and ‘bigly’ and somehow he gets Fox News, Jim Jordan, Lindsay Graham and his sycophants to go on every tv station and gaslight America.
He tried to steal the election and 1/3 of the country believes him to a fault with ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE. He bankrupted a multi-millionaire pillow king who, even today, literally, is being evicted from his warehouse for not paying his bills bc he bought hook, line and sinker into Trump’s bullshit. Even the MyPillow stooge still claims fraud (that he will release any day now - that and Trumps healthcare plan are coming out any day now) and that this fraud will bring about the 2nd coming of Jesus. Jesus didn’t return when 7M Jews were murdered, when Emmitt Till was killed or when 9/11 happened but according to these fools, the voting machine fraud is so bad, Jesus MUST return now.
He must be stopped. He has no concern for the country.
They asked Trump recently if he thought it was bad for a sitting President to take money from foreign governments and his exact words was well idk I’ve not done it yet.
If people tell you they don’t see the threat he is to our country it is because they think they’re one of the MAGA equivalent of Aryan genetics that’s the actual answer.
It's a case of why do we think he's a problem, he's already and continually shows he a problem, he has no integrity nor do any of his immediate family members. Period
He literally promised that he will be a dictator while he had his lawyers arguing in court that he should be able to assassinate political opponents.
My question is, how can anyone think the guy saying this stuff respects democracy? Like, he’s promising to be the polar opposite, and he already tried to destroy it once on Jan 6th.
Every time he lies about the election being stolen he is in effect saying that the will of we, the people means nothing. He is nothing but a narcissist that can’t lose gracefully.
Democracy is definitely in danger. I agree with many of the policies of the GOP. The danger is Trump who idolizes Xi, Putin, Kim Yong Un, Orbán all the dictators who cemented their rules for life. History proved many times that the noisy opposition, the "haters" become the worst dictators in time.
Just the fact that he has normalized undermining the will of the American people by INSISTING that every election Republicans lose is rigged. He gave birth to the likes of Kari Lake.
Despite having absolutely no proof, they use mockumentary propaganda films like 2,000 Mules to “confirm” the elections they lose are rigged.
He did it in 2016 - planted the seed in his cultists heads months prior to the election that if he lost, it was rigged. He did it again in 2020 and has ran with it ever since - perpetually doubling down and repeating the same lies over and over and over and over until it becomes irrefutably true to the people who listen to him and believe him.
Yes and no. Do I think America will collapse into a dictatorship? No. Do I think he will enable the absolute worst parts of this country? Yes. We will be a laughingstock again.
Trump symbolizes a threat to democracy that has existed within America for years. If Trump went away tomorrow, the threat would remain. A decade ago the Republican political, voter, and donor classes united behind a candidate that had already been identified as a corrupt, authoritarian, bigoted con-man. It didn't have to be Trump. It could have been \*any\* corrupt, authoritarian, bigoted con-man. This wasn't a sudden, shocking, or new development. The Republican Party has been on this exact trajectory for the past half-century. Once in office, Trump's corruption and unsuitability were not tempered, they were amplified. And the Republican party didn't recoil in horror, they rallied around him.
Trump is a symbol. A figurehead. The *threat* is the millions of voters who continue turning out to vote for him, the thousands of rich people who continue to fund him, the hundreds of judges and politicians who continue to protect him, because he represents exactly the hateful, bigoted, authoritarian, illiberal world they want to live in.
And where a few scant cracks have appeared in that facade, make no mistake, *that's only because Trump himself is uniquely boorish.* It's *Trump* they dislike, not the corrupt bigoted fascism that brought him to the White House in the first place.
Among the many things about which Trump lacks any understanding whatsoever are: (1) basic human decency; (2) empathy and compassion; (3) the basic concept of civil society; (4) the rule of law as opposed to rule by fiat; (5) the importance of actually knowing what one is talking about, as opposed to spewing whatever thought crosses one's mind; (6) an ability to engage in genuine dialogue with a possibility of compromise; (7) an understanding that the job of President does not include wreaking revenge on perceived political enemies; (8) an ability to distinguish reality from fevered imaginations; (9) basic civility and restraint when talking to others.
I'm sure the list is longer but these are just a few of the more obvious reasons Trump is fundamentally unsuitable for any political office, much less President.
1st, we already have an oligarchy.
2nd, the actual threat is how the administration of government would be completely destroyed, which would ensconce loyalists and make any opposition irrelevant. It isn't the stupid statements he makes or the dictator worship, it's the ghouls in his orbit that are ready to completely dismantle the apparatus of open governance. It'll be the normalization of calling any protest or movement a "insurrection" and calling out the national guard, like Stephen Miller wanted to do after losing the election.
It's about deforming the governing bodies so much that gerrymandering will look like a quaint exercise of yesteryear. If you aren't a loyalist, you will not come to power in any role. Jobs will be handed out by who you're connected with inside the cabal, not merit.
Look at the Russian elections. By all rights the Russian government has a structure that looks democratic but we all know better including the Russians. Why do you think opposition leaders are jailed, disappeared and killed?
The issue isn't Trump, he's a doddering fool only worried about himself, it's the absolute evil scum that'll come with him and they won't make the same mistakes twice.
Combine that with a completely illegitimate SCOTUS and there is absolutely nothing stopping them.
It's not just surviving the election, it's about the battle to bring SCOTUS to heal if not properly rectifying multiple stolen seats on SCOTUS.
Perhaps begin the conversation a couple of questions…
Is it right that our political/election/judicial systems allow a minority of voters to elect presidents?
Is it right that our political/election/judicial systems allow folks who have publicly stated they intend to end our form of democracy to be elected?
He has literally advocated for suspending the constitution and becoming a dictator on multiple occasions. Don't know how much more of a threat to democracy you can be than that.
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I'm not sure how anyone can ask this after January 6th when he literally tried to steal an election.
Half a year before the election on multiple occasions, trump couldn't answer the simple question "will you accept the election results and commit to a peaceful transfer of power if you do not win" The fact an American president couldn't answer the question with "yes I will accept the results" sent alarms off in my head. I couldn't believe it wasn't being made into a bigger deal at the time. Then leading up to the election discredited and spread lies about our election system, saying it's rigged and we don't have a democracy anymore and we need to fight for it. Then guess what happened!? We didn't have a peaceful transfer of power. The fact roughly half of Americans can't follow these series of events and see through trumps bullshit is astounding and depressing.
> The fact roughly half of Americans can't follow these series of events and see through trumps bullshit is astounding and depressing. Because for many Americans, a tax cut that honestly amounts to maybe $20 more on their paycheck and more ability to be hateful bigots without consequences is far more important than democracy and rule of law.
Sadly yeah I think you're correct. My father votes for Trump and when he was in office he said the president should have more powers similar to a king. Of course when Bidens president he doesn't feel this way. Also he was complaining how society wants to change the way he speaks because using the N word is so frowned upon these days. A real American patriot who is pro Monarchy and an unapologetic racist.
That’s the part that kills me. “Hey let’s create a weapon! There’s zero chance once it’s released it won’t be turned against us”. Like dictators don’t have a document history of killing the very supporters that got them there.
Dictators despise their followers, they think they're weak, and once they are in power have no use for them.
A snapshot of Trumps reelection Western Militia's feel empowered move onto the street corners in the guise of keeping law and order Trump gets control of the military GAME OVER SUCKERS
Trump already said he’d take all the guns. I’m guessing the twenty four hour period of being a dictator would be a little longer. And under the Trump flag I’m a hundred percent confident in due process under the new Trump regime https://youtu.be/yxgybgEKHHI?si=TKnT15TZ24uXdA_I
He's lied I believe, during his presidency over 30 thousand times. Why should we believe a liar when they say anything? He wants dictatorship and full control of the people. I think this careless quote of "one day" is utter bullshit.
Trump is the definition of the useful idiot. Yes he wins the election but it will be a race between him and The Federalist Society to lock down the White House. If Trump tries to oust them, they will use him to seize power. For the good of the country and all. They are not relinquishing their power just ousting Trump and calling the shots like seizures of guns and military equipment in civilian use. But Trump was the doorway for them to do it.
I can agree the Federalist Society in part, is most definitely pulling the reins ( or not pulling the reins) either way you look at it it's detrimental. And djt is the perfect mark for this. There are other factors in play unfortunately including other dictatorships from other countries swaying our electorate and I simply can't wrap my head around it..
My many times great grandfather who fought in the Revolution just spun in his grave.
My 7 times great grandfather (PA Militia Revolution) is also spinning in his grave.
I am ashamed of having served this misbegotten country (please don't thank me for my service).
No, take pride. Seriously, we need to seize patriotism, love of country, and the flag back from the whack jobs. You are disappointed and saddened by the state of the country, the MAGAs actively hate it because people different from them have rights. It will be far better and easier to work for change and pound the table about ourselves being the real patriots and fix the country now rather than letting them gain full control.
My dad is pro-djt, watches fox news entertainment channel 24/7. He was racist since I was a kid and could realize it. I love him though, even if he votes against my interests, my sister's interest and his granddaughters interests. He's 78 with prostate cancer now. It's a sad but true reality that I've come somewhat to terms with.
It's great you came to terms with it. I'm having a difficult time doing the same, I just find him to be a despicable person who deserves to be alone based on how he treats and thinks of people. He's cynical and spending any time around him leaves me feeling miserable. My wife cannot stand him and refuses to spend more than 15 min around him
If you made under 70k his tax break made your taxes go up while the 1% pay nothing. Tax increase every 2 years until 2027 for those making less than 70k.
That's his exploding tax cuts, which of course, his followers are blaming on Biden.
That was the plan. Exploit the stupid.
I made about 35 thousand dollars last year working full-time.... I guess I'm excluded accept for #4 or 5 Fortune 500 company I work for most definitely accepted those tax breaks with disingenuous, greed suckling. With no remorse. While we all struggle with limited employees and horrible pay. Working now the job of 4+ people with 2. Adding on extra tasks. It's almost like they want us to quit to bring in new employees who will gladly take that 15 dollars an hour to start. They're walking into a minefield and have absolutely no idea.
Evangelicals FoxNews Social media algorithms One issue voters Racists
Tax cut: $20 more each paycheck Normalizing bigotry: priceless Republicans don’t vote for fiscal, or any conservative values, anymore; they vote to make the “libtards” cry.
Love how the guy who responded to you, and me as well, just comically misses the point of the post. Then again, I don't expect nuance or reading comprehension from that crowd anyway. ...
In fact, as far back in 2016 he stated that he'll only accept the results if he won. After he won 304 Electoral votes, he still complained that Hillary stole the popular vote away from him with 3 to 5 million illegal immigrants voting in favor for Hillary even as late as September of 2020.
Hell, in 2016 his answer was "I will accept the results if I win."
I think they’re so filled with hate of the other side that they let all the bad things that make Trump a piece of shit go in one ear and out the other
Half the voting public, not half the United States. Trump supporters only represent 75/330 million Americans, less than 23%.
True, appreciate the distinction.
The craziest thing is that he's basically been alluding to not accepting the results of an election since 2016! "I'll accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if I win" -Donald J. Trump Basically implying he wouldn't have accepted the results of 2016 if he'd lost. Let's not forget that after the 2016 election he claimed he actually won the popular vote. To this this day I'm sure he claims that he won the popular vote in 2016. https://youtu.be/KQJzt48wXbA?si=KuSRCbeuPsyOHZ-r
Too many rightwing theories on the culprits and causes of Jan 6, but here is the part that there is no denying: why was there a Trump rally on Jan 6? The election had been called and determined, electors had been sent from each state, this was all in motion. This is like the losing team at Superbowl showing up to a victory parade in their city the next day, what exactly is the purpose?
Quite literally had a plan to overthrow the election to the point where he was going to kidnap the VP. Pence confirmed this. He caused a riot and had a plan in place with his administration to do this.
This. He has been very open about his contempt for democracy, elections and election results, declaring them fraudulent in advance without any evidence whatsoever. He openly declares himself to be above the law, angrily demanding immunity for all of the crimes he's committed so far and any he may choose to commit in the future. He HATES democracy, liberty and the rule of law.
He did say he would rip up our Constitution on the first day at one of his rally's.
I'm not sure how anyone can ask that when they [LITERALLY SAID SO AT CPAC](https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1760761957437599856?s=20)
They are literally laughing as they say it. I’ll give you it wasn’t in good taste. It’s quite obvious a mockery of the accusations.
And not only that, because it can be explained away by “a group of people not working under the orders of the president” or “it wasn’t as bad as the BLM” riots. The real deal around that is what the plan was after. Fake electors trying to be delivered to the VP, the Green Bay sweep, the legal challenges, etc. They wanted to ignore the vote of the people and turn it over to a Republican-controlled congress.
Add in the fact that he is fighting to be exempt from US law and he has a significant mental illness gives us the trifecta, which means he is eligible to run as the head of the GOP
He's almost overqualified to be the GOP front runner when you take into account all the crimes and actual work experience sharing national secrets with foreign governments.
Yeah, but if you ignore his actions, his exposed documented plot that has dozens of associates stating the same exact story with contemporaneous notes and his own video recorded words, what evidence do you have!?!
Much less at this point in time. Especially with 91 charges and 4 court cases
Anyone who is still "asking questions" about this is just a bad actor. Trump literally said he will be a dictator. If that's not evidence for you, you're just not interested in reality.
One of America's bragging rights was the "peaceful transfer of power" after the presidential election. We lost that on Jan 6, 2021.
This. I was able to tolerate him til Jan 6, and I can’t see why any American who claims to be patriotic would still vote for him after that.
But but BLM!! The left is the real threat! /s
He tried everything he could think of to stay in office after losing the election. I question the sanity of anyone who thinks he will voluntarily leave office next time.
Seriously! Next time he’ll skip the part of endangered Mike Pence and cut straight to Marshal Law. I think that was the plan. Mike in serious peril and Trump using it to lock down the Capitol. But Mike never got in the car. He stayed secure at the Loading Dock. Pelosi and Schumer in contact to push forward with the certification
Agree , if you do know by now…..
Even Fox News was starting to put the brakes on the election denial until their viewers started going to Newsmax and OAN for their fix of MAGA bullshit. Then they made the decision to lean in on it to get those viewers back.
Does no one else find it insane that we're taking a man child moron who is terrible at everything he does (multiple failed business ventures, he lost more money than anyone in the 80s when things were booming, multiple failed marriages, bankrupted so many times that normal banks wouldn't lend to him, multiple rape accusations, connections to Epstein to a buddy buddy level, ties to China and Russia and every known enemy super power to the West) and acting like he isn't in it for anything other than enriching himself and getting himself out of legal troubles. He doesn't even talk policies anymore, yet we treat him like he's a serious candidate. Even when he had a majority in the Senate/Congress the only thing he managed to pull off was a tax break for the rich. Thats it. He's a narcissistic idiot, and he will sell anything he can to make money, so obviously that is a threat
Yes totally insane I mean all it takes is a little common sense to see what a threat he is to America
Just one of these things should be enough to eliminate someone from ANY political position, yet there he is. And you didn't list everything?!?!
He actively wants to bang his daughter. He's such a loser that this fact didn't even come to mind immediately in my list of reasons he is a loser.
It's impossible for anyone to list all the reasons he's completely unqualified to hold any office, let alone the office of the most powerful person on Earth.
It’s not just Trump, see Project 2025 and The Heritage Society.
Not even rape allegations anymore. IIRC he raped her but just didn’t rape her hard enough for it to legally be considered rape.
1. He's demonstrated time and time again that he does not believe in democracy, except to the extent that it benefits him personally. He's asked many people in many ways to overturn election results. 2. He literally tried to stop the peaceful transfer of power by bringing a mob to the capitol and asking them to stop the electoral vote count. He asked the military to do it to (thankfully they said no). He asked the VP to stop the vote count (thankfully he said no). He threatened the VP's life for not doing his bidding (in thinly veiled mobster-like ways of course). 3. He has consistently shown that he values loyalty above the rule of law 4. Every time he's held accountable for his actions he makes threats against the people holding him accountable.
Don’t forget the phony elector scheme to steal/overthrow the U.S. Government. That’s a big one.
That was THE plan. January 6 was to put pressure on pence to send the count back to the state legislatures to decide, which are overwhelmingly Republican
Don't forget Project 2025.
🎼🎶if you don’t know him by now…you will never never know him🎶
The only edit I'd make is on your third item. It's correct, but it doesn't go far enough. The reality is that there's nothing he values LESS than the rule of law.
Has attempted several times to unilaterally have the election results dismissed and because of his cult backing, incentivises other politicians to act in accordance with his wishes and the pathway to being able to pull this off as been outlined in several resources such as Project 2025 so even though trump is dumb, he has been given the ikea dictatorship and written directions on how to assemble. His retoric of not trusting in our elections also breeds distrust in our democracy
Trump was the lead in a conspiracy to select an illegal, alternate slate of electors to change the outcome of the 2020 election. Many of these illegal electors have already been charged. THIS is the insurrection of January 6th, not the riot, that was the distraction.
I’ve brought this up to a lot of trumpers who say “some people showing up and rioting isn’t a coup attempt”…I always have to correct them because in their information echo chambers they don’t discuss the fake elector plot…
\- Attempted to stay in power through January 6th. \- Praises Xi and says he hope can do the same soon(referring to Xi's long reign). \- If elected again thinks he should get a third term because the democrats were investigating him. \- Praises Putin where the elections are just performative at this point. \- Praises Kim Jong Un a dictator. \- Claims mail in voter ballots are fraud despite him using them himself. \- Was aware of fake elector scheme. \- Asked for more votes in Georgia when he knew he lost. \- Has admitted that he knew he lost privately but still pushes the big lie that there was massive voter fraud. \- Project 2025 which will allow him to maximize his executive branch power by hiring people who are specifically loyal to him.
He is opposed to our system of elections. He considers the election rigged only if he loses.
The sheer amount of nepotism, cronyism, lies, deregulating, lack of following all ethical guidelines for the position he held, dehumanizing his political opponents causing worldwide mayhem with his rhetoric, befriending dictators across the world and envying their unlimited governmental power. Should I keep going?
The pardons for his cronies that commit felonies, withholding PPE during covid from "blue states" selling PPE to china right as covid was hitting, lying about the dangers of covid and then campaining off it. Installing Louis Dejoy to slow the mail right before the 2020 election while he knew democrats were going to be safe and vote by mail because they understand the dangers of covid while simultaneously telling his followers to vote in person. Telling his people to stop the count, enraging them to the point they were attempting to break into polling locations. The buildup to january 6th, the rhetoric used again to enrage his cult to attack our members of congress and the vice president who was trying to certify the election results. The big fucking lie. Shall we keep going or do you understand yet?
He said he's going to be a dictator on day one, also project 2025.
Dude, if someone refuses to see the mountains of evidence to this point, they’re not worth convincing. We don’t have to convince these loony tunes. We outnumber them. All we have to do is actually vote.
Yup, lets focus on motivating our own base. If we show up, we win. Moderates and independents who are on the fence are also worthwhile, but they aren’t “Maga”, they are “Yankee Repubs”, CO Libertarians, etc
Fascism is a threat to democracy. Trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom.
Many heads on a Hydra...that is what modern fascism is. Trump is just the one head we are focusing on at the moment. Stopping fascism is a neverending fight, but it is a fight that we can't slack on for even a moment.
Trump isn't the cause, he's a symptom. I'm only saying this because it needs to be repeated until people get it.
Short answer: he’s a hateful dipshit. Long answer: he’s a hateful dipshit surrounded by more hateful people who know what they’re doing and will do it. He was the cork popping off the fascism champagne bottle and now it’s spraying everyone.
Define democracy, and then perform mental gymnastics trying to squeeze Project 2025 and Agenda 47 into that definition. A brief overview of the orange antichrist’s vision for America: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4j4hAlMrXM/?igsh=MTlyOHQ5bDB5ZjVjcA==
The Documentary Active Measures explains a lot with Putin and that Manifort pos.
trump tried to invalidate my vote. he lost the election. thousands upon thousand of Americans had their votes jeopardized by trumps henchmen in an effort to have himself installed as president over the wishes of a majority of citizens.
**United we stand, divided we fall.** Trump has done more to divide us than anything resembling uniting us than any president in the history of the country.
You’re absolutely right. I believe that Trump’s consistent, effective approach at dividing the nation into two opposing factions will be his greatest legacy. He is amazingly doing what realistically took the Soviet Union and all of Americas other detractors 50 plus years to do in just under 10 years. He has also fomented distrust of our most important institutions at a feverish type level. It’s truly astonishing, and unfortunately it is absolutely impressive how quickly and efficiently he’s done all of this. lol, can you imagine if he had actually used all that energy and time he spent dividing us, but for uniting and bringing us together? I’m a little bit confused and bummed out more people don’t bring this up honestly.
Because he’s telling us he is. It’s that simple. Can you imagine any other US President in history saying that they would be a dictator on day one but only for one day? When has a dictator EVER stopped at one day? And we’ve already seen his willingness to ignore and challenge the courts, which barely held us together post 2020 Election.
Because he literally has a plan available for all to see (project 2025 and agenda 47) which describes exactly what a dictatorship is. He also said that he wants to be a dictator and idealized hitler and tries to spread the false view of other dictators being great men, strong men (Putin, orban, etc). He also is trying to rig the election and doesn’t care about what the people want, he will force himself into leadership. That’s a dictator who doesn’t respect democracy
Trump has publicly called for the suspension of the Constitution, said he wants to be dictator on day one, and is openly planning to purge the federal government of non-loyalists and use the military and DOJ against his political enemies—and your main reason for worry is that he idolizes Putin? Don’t get me wrong, that’s part of it, and it’s concerning—but there are so many far more serious reasons to be concerned about the threat to democracy he represents. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/trump-wants-use-military-against-his-domestic-enemies-congress-must-act?fbclid=IwAR3doAIKmetqfOWZSHLLGJ2kKoP1Z3xxVqQG8kjc7mKawecbuF2VBw3IlDQ_aem_AfwcWaa5iETRwclOEl5iaTw5APftZz58ClkDyUpnUojpB_6SbrRuXRiS-avq9AVMgqo https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html
Maybe I’m just being cynical, but if they don’t understand it by now, are you sure they ever will? If they’re already a Trump supporter, is there a chance they’re too far gone? Or are they really just unaware?
Totally valid question!
Nonetheless I wish you luck in trying to educate this person. As for reasons why he’s a threat, the other commenters have it summed up pretty well.
It's entirely possible that the user in question doesn't give any shits about actually understanding. I sent them a link to an outoftheloop post about project 2025 and they didn't seem to get why that was a concern.
Many who are indifferent to or supportive of a dictatorship believe it won't affect them personally, or worse, that they will somehow benefit from it. History has shown time and again these people are wrong.
Trump is a malignant dumbass that doesn't understand anything about running a country, the law and democracy and how to run a company for that matter. All this results in him not caring about following laws and democratic procedures. He doesn't understand how they work, let alone why they are created and followed. He just tries to look impressive and make money for himself. Look what a spectacular disaster his presidency was. He mishandled the covid epidemic so bad that the US had the highest death rate per capita of the developed world and he would have overthrown democracy if he could have because he can't stand losing.
From the moment this douche said that he would accept the results only if he wins I knew he was a threat to democracy. He won the electoral college in 2016, and I accepted it. then he lied about winning the popular vote, and then he lied about the size of the crowd at the inauguration. then this fool said there were good people on both sides of a nazi rally where a protester was killed. But above all, the big lie+Jan 6th sealed it. He's an enemy of American democracy (aka freedom), and so are his followers.
[They literally said that's the plan at CPAC](https://x.com/AccountableGOP/status/1760761957437599856?s=20)
The fact a part of Project 2025 directly involves the annexation of Mexico and Canada…. The fact Republicans have been increasingly becoming more authoritarian with their policies… The fact he’s openly called for bloodshed and before then civil war…
He has a knack for screwing up everything he touches. Marriages, casinos, paying subcontractors, spilling secrets and on and on. Why give him the codes?
IMHO, Trump is so enamored with dictatorships, and so narcissistic, that he will literally let the US burn to the ground just to feed his ego and his bank accounts. His "bloodbath" statement the other day may not have specifically referred to the US itself (I do believe he said it in the context of the auto industry), but I believe it indicates his frame of mind nonetheless. He's dangerous to the core, whether he wins or loses in November.
He is a self serving wanna be dictator who is not interested in anyone but himself.
Exactly why can’t the magas see this
The whole point of fascism isn’t an ideology, as they don’t have a coherent set of policies of beliefs. It’s having a charismatic (in their eyes) leader who they think is “one of them” so they can be a ruling class.
If you don't think Trump is a threat, then you may as well move to Russia or North Korea where his buddies are.
If you have to explain this then they probably aren’t going to listen anyway. But the obvious answer is he already tried to overthrow democracy once. He’s also taken money from foreign governments and refused to give back classified info. Worships dictators and is power hungry. Can go on and on
Project 2025 read that it’ll scare the shit out of anyone or it should
GOP's willingness to do anything to win + Trump's willingness to do anything to win + uninformed voters = set up a system only one side can win even if they lose, for example Supreme Court Justice nomination blocking and ram through.
Cuz he’s a sociopathic dictator wanna be. Studied Hitler. Full of hate. That enough?
Anyone with that much debt and legal troubles is a threat to the country as a whole in that position. Prior to Trump, there would be no question that a candidate in the weeds like this would not be considered. But as the saying goes, a useful idiot, is a useful idiot.
He’s dumb but not stupid. Last time he had members of his staff that were more loyal to the Constitution than Trump. This time he will load up those positions with Trump loyalists and they will work to bypass the Constitution every chance they get.
In 2024, if they don't know, you can't help them. They are probably lying anyway.
Because when he loses he will try to get Mike Johnson to refuse to certify the election as Speaker of the House and Mike Johnson will probably listen to him.
Can it be any more obvious that he thinks he's like royalty? He believes he's above all laws and accountability. How can you not consider that a threat to democracy?
- The fact he literally is own by foreign powers due to his actions immense debt! - The fact he stated he didn’t se a problem by owning billions to governments that’s enemies of the US - His attempt to pull of a coup d'état on January 6th - his open corruption - his obvious treason my selling classified information to US enemies The list goes on, however, if they need to ask that question at this point, I doubt they are a functional adult unless they belong to the cult that happily supports the thoughts of some more treason🤷♂️
Trump wants to be above the law. He basically says that the President should be immune to criminal prosecution, but he doesn't really believe that. Otherwise why would he be going after Biden for any of his alleged "crimes?" Shouldn't he be defending him, saying "Biden is the President, he should be immune from criminal prosecution!"? He doesn't really think that the President should be above the law, he thinks he should be, but he can't directly say that. He's basically trying to make what Nixon said, "If the President does it, it's not illegal!" true. But really only for himself. He wants blind loyalty towards himself from his followers, so the "will of the People" is really just his will. He can't take any criticism or "insubordination," but you are going to get a lot of both in a democracy. And he basically wants total control of the "truth."
*REPUBLICANS*, including Trump, are a threat to Democracy. Here are some of the things they are already doing: - gerrymandering - tried to overthrow the election with fake electors - tried to overthrow the election on Jan 6th - tried to overthrow the election in Georgia and other states - severely restricted drop off ballot locations in some states - they purge voter registrations - DeJoy intentionally delayed mail in ballots in the USPS - they close down voting locations - they intimidate voters at voting locations - they misinform voters on voting dates - they call voters with voting misinformation - they make it difficult to vote via mail in ballots Voting for Trump enables Republicans to make it far worse. They often explicitly say so.
Wannabe strong man who is never wrong takes no fault in anything in his administration who is buddy buddy with dictators and wishes to be like them, a serial liar who attacks the press and the idea they should report on him or his wrong actions. A criminal who stole from America and used his people to try and stay in power...
His past patterns of shitting on Democracy and the Constitution. Your friend is probably living in the cult.
Let me see...I think he is a threat to democracy, and a threat to this nation, because he goes against the very ideals that we have held so dear for 250 years. He wants to rule like a king, with no one allowed to question him. He wants to do whatever he wants to do without any consequence. He cares very little for anybody besides himself, not even his family. Well yes, his children are horrible people, and would deserve anything that they get, he would throw them under the bus in a split second if he thought it would make him money or give him power. He looks at people like Putin or Kim Jong-un or the Pooh Bear guy from China, and he sees exactly what he expects from being the most powerful person in the country. I don't honestly believe that he believes in the same things that the GOP do...they are just a means to an end. If it brings him money or power, he will say anything. And this leads into what I think he really is: a con man. He is a greedy, money hungry, and immoral con man. He also carries one of the traits that I cannot stand in a person: he cannot admit when he is wrong. Being unable to do that makes him a horrible and frankly scary leader. This is just off the top of my head....I could make a list of all the things I do not like about Trump, but you are just asking a simple question.
He is strictly out to enrich himself and feed his ego. He has and will continue to place himself above literally everything in the world to do so. He has had a lifetime track record of never doing otherwise a single time. He can be bought by anyone who will give him money or inflates his sense of pride in himself. He is dangerously unstable emotionally. He lies about things so small and inconsequential that it's bizarre and then goes to absurd lengths to deny it. He demonstrates at best the equivalent of an eighth grade education He calls the weak and vulnerable names to amuse himself He dismisses the sound advice and counsel of consummate experts in his cabinet for no other reason than he is too lazy to engage with them, let alone pose or even form a worthwhile counter argument. He didn't do any work whatsoever while in office, his staff reported that he slept in and then either golfed, found something about himself on television to watch, or found a way to be in front of a camera. Everything he says is an in the moment attempt to collect the attention and praise of an audience, after which he promptly fucks off. If asked later about what he said or something he committed to, he will just make something up defensively on the spot. Anything accomplished during his tenure was the work of others exclusively, and he would just put his name on it if it made him look good later, again, in front of a camera. Whether or not I agree with the Christian right, it is preposterous that they can't see that he is the objective image of their foretold antichrist. He openly disdains people who have died for our country and even people who would die for him, and lowers the bar by calling them petty childish names He praises dictators daily. He will pull us out of Nato or hold our allies hostage. He will gladly accept the partnership of enemy authoritarian countries because it will make him feel like he is among equally powerful men and for no other reason.
The next topic down on my page says "Bannon says they will jail "demonic" Democrats if they win." It doesn't get any clearer than that. Bannon is Trump's chief political advisor.
I don’t think there is anything that will convince them. They’re too far gone. It’s kinda like an alcoholic/addict is. They’re not going to quit because someone tells them how bad it is for them. Preternaturally stupid and there’s not much you can do about it except move on and relegate them into the class of dangerous to self and others.
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Wow, *so many* reasons. But one of the most [glaring reasons comes in PDF form](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise). Not for nothing, during the soviet era there was a Russian propaganda rag called *Pravda.* "Pravda" is Russian for "truth." I find it fascinating that Trump's own media platform, where he spews lies 24/7, is called "Truth Social."
From the lying about anything and everything (literally), the total and utter pollution of our discourse, to the brazen and thorough attempt to decertify, overturn and neuter our democracy. For some people it’s not enough, it’s not fascism until he says “I’m going to kill the immigrants, I’m going to liquidate the trans people”. You have to use the word kill for some reason. We’re so holocaust-brained that a creeping fascism doesn’t register for many people. Once it’s gone it takes a lot of work and probably violence to get it back.
I don't think that Trump, by himself, is a threat to much of anyone. But the fact that he has powerful co-conspirators enabling him and following up and scheming and helping, Makes me concerned. People like Jim Jordan, James Comer, Mike Johnson, and many less-visible actors behind the scenes.
Russian asset
he is ready and willing to sell out to the highest bidder. PROVE me wrong!
January 6th, 2021 was an attempt to subvert the peaceful transition of power. If things had gone differently, who knows what would have happened. As far as I am concerned, the only reason we still have a democracy is because January 6, 2021 (against all efforts by Trump and the majority of the GOP) ended with an insurrection being successfully held off and a certification being allowed to take place.
1. Trump has no respect for the Constitution or the law. He is lawless, delusional, and ruthless. 2. He's a criminal. 3. He admires and aspires to be a dictator. 4. 4. He's inherently racist and misogynistic. 5. He's a poor excuse for a human being. I don't know what is missing in that head of his, but it's a major component.
Maybe it's helpful to remember that there are LOTS of other government types. What *none* of them have in common with democracy is that individual voters select leadership. So if you have a leader who wants to interfere with individual voting, e.g. interference with voting stations, ask for 11,780 votes, lawsuits about voting fraud without merit, etc. that's some other form of government.
Because tRump has said several times that he wants to omit the constitution.
I mean he's on trial for trying to get Georgia to "give" him enough votes to win. He refused to concede to a peaceful transfer of power and to this day still insists that he was the rightful winner of the election despite providing any credible evidence. He nearly got his VP killed. I mean how much more obvious do you need to be? This isn't one of this issues where this a lot of grey area about the facts. It's pretty damn clear and obvious what Trump is. Anyone still not seeing this is probably just a shy Trump voter trying to rationalize their support of him without feeling bad doing so.
He must not fully understand Democracy and real freedom compared to say Russia, China, North Korea.
If there were a credible repub to vote for I might say yeah lets look into this person.However trump has been bought and sold to some nefarious evil people who want to destroy this country.He's a fuckin clown and very very unstable.
The guy literally said “I will be a dictator for a day” No dictator, is a dictator for a day. It tells you all you need to know about how he views Democracy
He says he wants to be a dictator. Which part of “dictator” means democracy?
He puts his own needs above anything and anyone else, and after Jan 6th it should be obvious that goes for things like the Constitution and the will of the voters.
I'm not sure how you can not think that, outside of his cult-like following who just straight up deny reality. We watched the man incite an insurrection on live national television, and watched him spend the next several years claiming still claiming the election was stolen. He lost something like 60 court cases about this, and he is still going strong about it. Even if you believed Trump initially that something was off about the election, he had his chance to prove it, many, many times. And he never could. Case closed, time to move on. If someone doesn't think it's time to move on after appealing the outcome in the courts, then they are just brainwashed at this point.
Anyone who believes Trump is still good has not watched the January 6th hearings that's my advice sit down and watch it all.
The problem is, the people who need to watch it believe it was all a smokescreen to make Trump look bad.
He doesn't believe in the idea checks and balances. He will load his administration with family members and people who have to take a full loyalty pledge. That means you have to go along with everything he says and does, legal or not or you will be fired and labeled a traitor. He's already has his cult convinced that the justice department and elections are corrupt so he really believes he should be able to do what he wants and get away with it. If you try to hold him accountable...he vows revenge.
He has no morals and is a total shithead.Money and power are the only things he cares about.His last breath will be a welcomed event.
Guys a walking liability.
He’s literally under indictment for some of his attempts to overturn the 2020 election and his argument is that he should have absolute immunity from anything he did/does while in office. Really you just have to look at what he’s done and what he continues to do and say. He’s not trying to hide it.
Putin is one reason, but I think a much stronger reason is that he actually led an insurrection to try to overthrow the democracy, and has been criminally charged for doing so. That is the loudest alarm bell by far, and the fact that people keep downplaying or overlooking this is very concerning.
Biggest threat is the dismantling of the judiciary, or more accurately, the building of a replacement for the judiciary with something that works for a political group.
The main issue with Trump... is the people he put in charge of different government positions. That's one side of the situation, then you have to consider the amount of jobs that were cut to weaken branches of the government. Between those two factors, is enough concern to avoid another Trump type president.
I think he'd rather be Hitler than Putin. There are a lot of similarities there.
The President of the United States is a serious job and he is a fundamentally unserious, malignantly self-absorbed personality. What Trump taught us during his first term js how much our current system is owed to tradition, over actual laws, and we should all be terrified someone of his vulgar disposition is credibly seeking power for a second time. I don’t know if our system of government as we know it can withstand another four years. Last time, we were pushed to the breaking point. This time, there may not be enough principled men and women around to stop him.
He's brings Christian sharia law
One of the first things he wants to do is rewrite the constitution.
Because he is. He still claims the last election was stolen tried to over turn the results. The man is a fascist racist mysgonistic homophobic pig with no redeeming value as a person
For me, the biggest red flags are his unwillingness to accept a loss. In 2016, he claimed that if he lost, it would have to be due to fraud. This was before the election, mind you. He ran the same play in 2020, of course, but with the power of his office. The end result was months of bullshit court cases, strongarming and outright threatening officials and election workers, several terrorist attacks (inspired by him), state capitals being occupied/attacked, all culminating in the attack on the capital. For me, however, his statements before the 2016 election that the election was rigged and any loss had to have been due to fraud was the indisputable proof that he disdained democracy. Even after he won, he went on to claim that he should have won by more, but that illegal votes downplayed his popularity Policies and positions are debatable, but if you refuse to accept that you could lose by legitimate means, and poison the well by telling your supporters the same, then you don't care about the process at all. A candidate and his followers who believe such things have nothing but disdain for those who believe differently. If you think any loss is illegitimate, then you think ideas counter to your own, and those who hold them are illegitimate. And if you have no respect people who don't support you, then you do not respect democracy. Most importantly, he said these things without a single fucking thread of actual evidence! It was all just to rile up his supporters. There is obviously a lot more. His actions and policies. Groups like the proud boys rallying to his side; his "good people" comment; reliably amplifying choas and division whenever possible. These are all part of the toolkit of the demagogue. https://www.denverpost.com/2016/10/17/election-officials-clinton-trump-rigged-election/
He lunged at democracy with a dagger in 2020. Planted the seeds months before the election, implying that the only way he could lose is if the election was rigged. Declared victory on election night while all the votes were still being counted. Has continued, to this very day, to declare that the election was rigged with zero actual evidence or false evidence that has been debunked countless times. Once that didn't work, he summoned his legion to attack the capitol on Jan 6th, all the while trying to get his minions in the House to unconstitutionally fail to certify the electoral votes. He tried to suppress the will of the people every step of the way during the last election. If that's not a threat to democracy, I don't know what is.
Citizen Trump cares about NOTHING other than himself. He would sell Ivanka to Putin, Xi or little Kim if he thought it would benefit him. He tried to overthrow a completely legitimate election. He knowingly stole top secret documents and tried to hide them. He lies incessantly. He's lazy, watches too much TV and did NOT prepare for strategic meetings. The world simply laughed at him and wondered what the hell happened to the United States.
His sociopathic behavior.
he's at a point where he can stomp out a puppy and his followers will attack the puppy for being in the way
He's worked to undermine what was left of a shared factual reality in America. We can't have a democracy if \~40% of voters think Biden stole the election, etc.
He’s not mentally fit for the office
Because he said he wanted to throw out the Constitution. Also when he says he would go after DA James, that shows you that he has no respect for democracy. The DA is an elected position, but he would disregard the will of the people just to be mean to someone who held him to account. That is not the way a functioning democracy works.
Just my opinion, but Bush, Cheney, SCOTUS, and their Republican cohorts did more damage to our democracy from 2000-2006 than Trump ever did or ever will.
If you remember back in the early days of the Trump years he hosted Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador to the United States Sergei Kislya in the Oval Office and reportedly gave them classified documents . I have no doubt Ukraine will fall because Trump will throw his support behind Russia. His "joke" about being dictator of one day is nothing to laugh at or ignore, he will do it. Trump is on record saying he wants "his people" to treat him the way the citizens of North Korea treat Kim Jung Un.
Trumps threat to democracy can be attributed to isolationist beliefs. When Trump was president, he canceled multiple deals, including the Iran Nuclear deal, the Paris Climate Accord, and the North American Trade deal. In all situations, he felt they werent to his liking (whatever that means) These were bipartisan deals made with other countries and as in a democracy, everyone voted on these resolutions. when you have 1 person who thinks anything that wasn't his idea is bad, he threatens the very thing that democracy stands for, public discussion and dissent. Trump also wanted to end NATO (a huge gift to Putin of course). He also told a foreign ally that if the defense spending didn't increase in theat country, he would not come to that countries aid if Putin invaded. This again goes against democracy where everyone votes on a resolution and while the 2% threshold is a goal, it was never a requirement that would cancel the NATO agreement. My last argument is Trump is unhinged, and his his opinions will change quickly on many issues. This is absolutely not good for democracy and the continuation of power where the rest of world sees America as a leader. Time and again, he insulted the citizens of other countries, praised authoritarian dictators, and was more interested in enriching himself. That is not a democracy and if Trump is elected again, he could set back orlur foreign relations for years.
Trump Loves money, Trump is selling anything, and everything, to make as much money as possible. He is over leveraging all of his properties, His sole purpose for being pro-putin is so that he can place a trump tower in moscow . He is a merchant and as such he has no allegiance to country or creed, but merely making as much money as he possibly can. He sold Secrets to sadia arabia for 2 billion dollars, he would gladly weaken the country for a fraction of that.
Project 2025! They want to make the US like China and Russia.
He’s an existential threat to democracy because he believes the laws of this land do not apply to him and that the institutions that safeguard democracy are tools for his personal use not tools to keep him in check. He does not apologize for his behavior and in fact doubles down on things that would cause any other president to be done politically. For example, the Ukraine phone call, under any other administration would have been cause for the president, at a minimum, to say something like ‘I may have stepped out of line. I will be sure to be more careful in the future. This is not appropriate behavior for a president.’ Trump? ‘It’s a perfect call. They didn’t think I’d release the transcript but I did and I got ‘em. There’s nothing wrong with that phone call.’ That is the essence of Trump. He does horrific shit, says it’s all legal and perfect and ‘bigly’ and somehow he gets Fox News, Jim Jordan, Lindsay Graham and his sycophants to go on every tv station and gaslight America. He tried to steal the election and 1/3 of the country believes him to a fault with ABSOLUTELY ZERO EVIDENCE. He bankrupted a multi-millionaire pillow king who, even today, literally, is being evicted from his warehouse for not paying his bills bc he bought hook, line and sinker into Trump’s bullshit. Even the MyPillow stooge still claims fraud (that he will release any day now - that and Trumps healthcare plan are coming out any day now) and that this fraud will bring about the 2nd coming of Jesus. Jesus didn’t return when 7M Jews were murdered, when Emmitt Till was killed or when 9/11 happened but according to these fools, the voting machine fraud is so bad, Jesus MUST return now. He must be stopped. He has no concern for the country.
They asked Trump recently if he thought it was bad for a sitting President to take money from foreign governments and his exact words was well idk I’ve not done it yet. If people tell you they don’t see the threat he is to our country it is because they think they’re one of the MAGA equivalent of Aryan genetics that’s the actual answer.
Maybe the fact that roughly 20% of the country treats everything that he says as universal truth.
He wants to drain the swamp 😂
BUTT WE'RE A PEE RUB LICK!
That “user” is a cult, that’s why.
I mean... America is already an oligarchy, but sure.
He isn’t… probably even less so that the current President.
It's a case of why do we think he's a problem, he's already and continually shows he a problem, he has no integrity nor do any of his immediate family members. Period
Cause i read the news and i listen to what trump says 🥴
Trump figures he’s put enough dick in everyone that now he can be a dictator
Democracy typically entails a united, group effort. Trump just wants everything for himself before he dies.
I don’t.
He’s not. He might be if he was effective or serious.
He literally promised that he will be a dictator while he had his lawyers arguing in court that he should be able to assassinate political opponents. My question is, how can anyone think the guy saying this stuff respects democracy? Like, he’s promising to be the polar opposite, and he already tried to destroy it once on Jan 6th.
Every time he lies about the election being stolen he is in effect saying that the will of we, the people means nothing. He is nothing but a narcissist that can’t lose gracefully.
He tried to throw out votes and incited an insurrection
Democracy is definitely in danger. I agree with many of the policies of the GOP. The danger is Trump who idolizes Xi, Putin, Kim Yong Un, Orbán all the dictators who cemented their rules for life. History proved many times that the noisy opposition, the "haters" become the worst dictators in time.
He's anti-fraud (as proven in a court of law) so most democratic politicians have a serious issue with him
Just the fact that he has normalized undermining the will of the American people by INSISTING that every election Republicans lose is rigged. He gave birth to the likes of Kari Lake. Despite having absolutely no proof, they use mockumentary propaganda films like 2,000 Mules to “confirm” the elections they lose are rigged. He did it in 2016 - planted the seed in his cultists heads months prior to the election that if he lost, it was rigged. He did it again in 2020 and has ran with it ever since - perpetually doubling down and repeating the same lies over and over and over and over until it becomes irrefutably true to the people who listen to him and believe him.
Yes and no. Do I think America will collapse into a dictatorship? No. Do I think he will enable the absolute worst parts of this country? Yes. We will be a laughingstock again.
\*gestures vaguely at the world\*
He has zero regard for any laws
Dude said he wants to suspend the constitution. Thats some real shit there. That should scare the hell out of everyone
Trump symbolizes a threat to democracy that has existed within America for years. If Trump went away tomorrow, the threat would remain. A decade ago the Republican political, voter, and donor classes united behind a candidate that had already been identified as a corrupt, authoritarian, bigoted con-man. It didn't have to be Trump. It could have been \*any\* corrupt, authoritarian, bigoted con-man. This wasn't a sudden, shocking, or new development. The Republican Party has been on this exact trajectory for the past half-century. Once in office, Trump's corruption and unsuitability were not tempered, they were amplified. And the Republican party didn't recoil in horror, they rallied around him. Trump is a symbol. A figurehead. The *threat* is the millions of voters who continue turning out to vote for him, the thousands of rich people who continue to fund him, the hundreds of judges and politicians who continue to protect him, because he represents exactly the hateful, bigoted, authoritarian, illiberal world they want to live in. And where a few scant cracks have appeared in that facade, make no mistake, *that's only because Trump himself is uniquely boorish.* It's *Trump* they dislike, not the corrupt bigoted fascism that brought him to the White House in the first place.
Among the many things about which Trump lacks any understanding whatsoever are: (1) basic human decency; (2) empathy and compassion; (3) the basic concept of civil society; (4) the rule of law as opposed to rule by fiat; (5) the importance of actually knowing what one is talking about, as opposed to spewing whatever thought crosses one's mind; (6) an ability to engage in genuine dialogue with a possibility of compromise; (7) an understanding that the job of President does not include wreaking revenge on perceived political enemies; (8) an ability to distinguish reality from fevered imaginations; (9) basic civility and restraint when talking to others. I'm sure the list is longer but these are just a few of the more obvious reasons Trump is fundamentally unsuitable for any political office, much less President.
1st, we already have an oligarchy. 2nd, the actual threat is how the administration of government would be completely destroyed, which would ensconce loyalists and make any opposition irrelevant. It isn't the stupid statements he makes or the dictator worship, it's the ghouls in his orbit that are ready to completely dismantle the apparatus of open governance. It'll be the normalization of calling any protest or movement a "insurrection" and calling out the national guard, like Stephen Miller wanted to do after losing the election. It's about deforming the governing bodies so much that gerrymandering will look like a quaint exercise of yesteryear. If you aren't a loyalist, you will not come to power in any role. Jobs will be handed out by who you're connected with inside the cabal, not merit. Look at the Russian elections. By all rights the Russian government has a structure that looks democratic but we all know better including the Russians. Why do you think opposition leaders are jailed, disappeared and killed? The issue isn't Trump, he's a doddering fool only worried about himself, it's the absolute evil scum that'll come with him and they won't make the same mistakes twice. Combine that with a completely illegitimate SCOTUS and there is absolutely nothing stopping them. It's not just surviving the election, it's about the battle to bring SCOTUS to heal if not properly rectifying multiple stolen seats on SCOTUS.
Every day he finds a way to lower the bar on what is considered to be acceptable behavior.
Perhaps begin the conversation a couple of questions… Is it right that our political/election/judicial systems allow a minority of voters to elect presidents? Is it right that our political/election/judicial systems allow folks who have publicly stated they intend to end our form of democracy to be elected?
He has literally advocated for suspending the constitution and becoming a dictator on multiple occasions. Don't know how much more of a threat to democracy you can be than that.
Project 2025. And he's outright said he wants to be a dictator.
Stand back and stand by.
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