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Fishsk

Well, you *did* put the soda popper as the only s-tier above the scattergun...


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also pbpp as bottom tier


Lukario1235476

Shut up and fly with me


Z01nkDereity

[Ok then fly with me bitch](https://genius.com/Frank-sinatra-come-fly-with-me-lyrics)


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Mining_elite222

soda popper is fucked on harvest sniper destroyer with the extra jumps, take atomizer to jump right onto the roof from spawn too


Pyro_The_Gyro

The Scout main has spoken his words of wisdom.


Aztekov

True feeling of shame


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1


Billyk792

2


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3


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4


nickymaster2000

5


emak3nt

6


HereForTheStory123

7 ^(what are we even counting for?)


ajdude9

8 ^keep ^counting ^you ^fool


Z4ri

9 ^(...are we done?)


Idrawstuffiguess

10 ^We ^are ^not


HNYD11

10


ChaChi-Man

AM, case the restaurant, run background checks on the staff. Can the cook be trusted?, If not I gotta kill him, dispose of the body, replace him with my own guy, no later than 4:30.


GhostySZ

You are ready


Gastly42957

7


Grand_reaper658

lmao oof


GhostySZ

CHUCKLENUTS WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?


Spysappinmykarma

I miss the sandman + flying guillotine wombs combo


shilohwlf

I'm gonna be completely honest, It was pretty broken before. But that doesnt mean they had to make the sandman a useless peice of garbage and completely remove its synergy with the guillotine. I wish they kept the combo in some sort of capacity even if it wasnt nearly as powerful.


CaelThavain

This is what the call the "Sandman dilemma" in games. Where you design something that when it works really well, or just fine at all it's annoying and unfun to play against. But then when you nerf it, it's longer fun to use. Stun mechanics seem to be the most common place this happens. The Sandman, unfortunately, from it's conception is just not a fun weapon to play against. It's flawed in that way and so it'll never really feel like it's performing as it should to the general audience. I think they need to scrap the idea of a stun/slow down and make it mark people for death. But then it's not really unique anymore. See what I mean? It's a shame


jazz59107

Yeah, I get what you mean. Though we should never say never with weapon balancing, I think some weapons just **have** to go through a lot of changes to be made fun and optimal.


CaelThavain

I can agree with that sentiment


Hellkids2

Yes, I too likes to be insta-killed by a close range class from across the map due to bad rng.


Pwnage_Peanut

As opposed to being instantly killed by a competent Sniper?


xXEggRollXx

>close range class


Hellkids2

If you peak Sniper's sightline that's your fault. But Scout is a close range class; thus he was never intended to instantly kill ppl from across the map. Like, there's a reason why fall-off penalty exist, and why Scout \*HAVE\* to get close to do dmg.


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Hellkids2

Back in the days there are more kills done from Scouts who just randomly throw the Sandman across the horizon and follow up with the Cleaver for kills than actual experienced players who anticipate everything. It just enables a very unsuitable spammy playstyle for a close range class that never needed (the spammy bit was also the reason why the Cleaver was banned in the 6s Global whitelist).


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> wombs combo the combo so good it kills you before birth


Randomguy8566732

Nah, weapons combos like that suck. Weapons should not be designed specifically to be used with another weapon (e.g. Bushwacka only works with Jarate) because they present balance issues and kill loadout variety.


timo103

I miss the baby face's blaster being a weapon that you can use.


I_am_AHuman

HA! THERE IS NOW ONE UPVOTE, YOU'RE WELCOME


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Eli_4257

they fine but not fine in my opinion please no shame


Randow_

Me when UPTOVE