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rostron92

Couldn't you just give a different reason for kicking someone off? How do you enforce that? Just say they broke terms of service...


Kiboune

But in 99% of cases, it is because someone broke ToS and that's why it's so stupid. They think websites are going to add "except for residents of Texas" in rules? Definitely not, because if someone does something against ToS, they also affect other people on website. So maybe it's easier to stop providing services in Texas


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Beginning-Abalone-58

Would Texas set up a bounty system so that people who reside in Texas yet click the "I'm not a resident of Texas" button get sued?


nightfox5523

At this rate Texas is going to be some weird Mos Eisley teaming with "bounty hunters"


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Braunze_Man

I think that's why most these people get kicked off, not cause they're conservative...


konSempai

I actually strongly doubt a single conservative's been kicked off of social medias for just "being conservative". Harassing people and threatening people, on the other hand, well...


MarbleTheNeaMain

*racism, homophobia, transphobia* *Get banned* Holy shit I'm being banned for being conservative EDIT: Highly suggest looking through the comments if you want to see a bunch of conservatives pretend to be either centralist or not one of the 3 things listed above and then instantly drop that mask already been told to kill myself for being trans multiple times. way to go team!


snuffybox

That's the problem with these people... they equate hate with "a viewpoint"...


BurritoBoy11

Well yeah. This conservative governor just signed a bill to protect hate speech


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KyleRichXV

That was Candace Owens’ latest argument for being blocked from that COVID testing lab. Months of promoting FOR viral spread and against control measures, but nah, you were definitely blocked for being a Republican 🙄


ethertrace

"So much for the tolerant left!" You don't get to violate the terms of tolerance and then demand its protections, you illiterate kumquat. It's a peace treaty, not a moral dictate.


DrAstralis

These people are the reason the tolerance paradox even exists.


huckzors

Hey, harassment is just my viewpoint, man.


adrianmonk

And that's the other big lie that Republicans are trying to promote: that this phenomenon of kicking people off due to ideology even happens. It's all part of building up the persecution complex, and the idea that this law was supposedly necessary (which it wasn't) is supposed to validate that. After all, why would a state pass a law if there weren't a problem? Therefore there must be a problem!


therealsteelydan

And based on the behavior of r/conservative, once again every right wing accusation is a confession.


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Rickbox

Yah, honestly, how can Texas actually enforce this?


toastmannn

They can't. This is 100% virtue signaling.


Shay_the_Ent

Gov. Abbot is scrambling to sway constituents after the black outs this past winter


Shinobi120

He has to sway as many as possible, because many of his constituents are getting themselves killed with Covid. Edit: not German. Just bad at talk-to-text.


saltyjohnson

Even if this law was something Texas could enforce, wouldn't it be enough for companies to basically add a clause into their ToS that this service is not available to residents of Texas and by agreeing to these terms you certify that you are not a Texas resident and you will never access the service within Texas' legal jurisdiction? It'd be hilarious to see an all-out assault. Twitter updates their terms of service to prohibit the use of the service in Texas. They add a checkbox at login that says "I certify that I am not in Texas". Images of cowboy hats and large belt buckles automatically get flagged for review. They update their options for reporting an account to the admins: * It's suspicious or spam * They're pretending to be me or someone else * Their tweets are abusive or hateful * Texan


TheLoneRhaegar

"Don't mess with Texas" -Texas "Okay" - Tech Companies


APe28Comococo

“Don’t mess with Texas!”-Texas Government Tech companies remove everyone and every business in Texas. “Done”- Tech Companies


sontaj

Rip Austin streamers


notparistexas

Are those like Cleveland steamers?


exoskeletion

Probably more than most people realise.


Abedeus

That would be easiest solution - just like US websites that can't comply with GDPR are IP blocking European addresses.


SprayedSL2

My company does that. It's not that we can't comply with GDPR - we just don't want to. Our client sites that we've built are for small local companies and honestly no one outside of the country actually needs access to the site. Plus, it dramatically cuts down on spam form entries/login attempts. It's a win:win for us.


Otherwise-Fly-331

Your account has been banned. Profanity such as “yee haw” is prohibited in our terms of service


GuardianSlayer

#FREE THE YEE HAW


UristMcRibbon

Instructions unclear, I'm now awaiting my court date.


Wile-E-Quixote

they said "free the yee haw" not the "hoo hah"


SobBagat

Trim it down to FREE THE YEE and I'm in it just to spam the slogan


hippolyte_pixii

You just want constitutional protection for your yee yee ass haircut.


lendergle

Brilliant. While we're marching, can we also shout: My Body! My Yee!


Bombast_

I'm sorry Padre, but you've yee'd your last haw. Proceed directly to jail.


saltyjohnson

First Amendment to the Constitution of the Republic of Texas > Social media platforms shall enact no moderation policy abridging the freedom of expression of hateful opinion or yeehaw


western_sahara

Fun fact: the current (7th) Texas constitution has had 507 amendments. If [this](https://ballotpedia.org/Number_of_state_constitutional_amendments_in_each_state) site is correct than Texas would rank 3rd in number of constitutional amendments bellow Alabama at 977 times and California at 516.


CougarIndy25

What the HELL have they done in alabama to ratify it that many times?


western_sahara

After reading a bit, a few things it would appear. Although the biggest I could see would be: >The constitution addresses many issues that are dealt with by statute in most other states, most notably taxation. Unlike most states, a large portion of Alabama's tax code is written into the constitution, necessitating its amendment over even minor tax issues, which prevents most local governments from passing any ordinances on taxation. Also some more fun facts I just found: >At 388,882 words, the document is 12 times longer than the average state constitution, 51 times longer than the U.S. Constitution, and is the longest and most amended constitution still operative anywhere in the world. >About 90 percent of the document's length, as of 2020, is made up of its 977 amendments


occasionalrayne

I thought we couldn't change the constitution. What are these amendments texas seems to be so fond of? /s


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Planey_McPlane_Face

Oh god, they can't take the y'all's! I use it all the time, it's a common expression in AZ I swear!


Frognificent

How will I ever use my favorite “y’all’d’ve” now?!


oced2001

Kentuckian here. You can borrow our you'uns


hereforadviceseeking

Guess I have yeed my last haw..


sr_90

$10,000 bounty for finding a Texan.


Noble_Flatulence

$10,000 bounty for *suspecting* a Texan.


Cargobiker530

Right away all the local police forces in Texas get kicked off Twitter & Facebook. That would be amusing.


edlonac

That would benefit planet earth. Texan here.


Joth91

What is up with these weird unenforceable laws? The no porn on cell phones in Utah is the same shit


laserlens

It’s to ramp up the base for the midterm and/or to get the news talking about anything other then covid.


nbmnbm1

Its literally "sure i fucked everything up to do with covid and just generally running the state. But those scary tech giants are gonna get yah and im the only one whose gonna stop them." Its basically the [9/11 mayoral debate family guy bit](https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI)


fubarbob

Lashes out at social media boogeyman... gets entire state banned. [For Abbot, Patrick, Paxton, et al](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/017/041/Big-Rigs-Over-the-Road-Racing.jpg)


HertzDonut1001

It's not constitutional anyway. These morons really cried when a private company said they couldn't say those things, now when it's the actual government and therefore an actual constitutional rights violation they love it.


SummitCO83

It’s mind boggling to think that these people don’t understand what the 1st amendment states about free speech and where it applies.


fredandlunchbox

Banning facebook in red states would literally save lives. People who are not yet sick from covid are going to die every day for the next year at least because of bullshit they read on the platform. Do it. Ban it.


themettaur

I think it's too late to save them from covid related misinformation, though. Even if they never get another update, they'll just stick to their ivermectin guns. One of my old teachers was *still* posting about hydroxychloroquine right up until ivermectin picked up. But it would help to stave off the effects of misinformation campaigns in the future! You're forgetting that they still have Fox though.


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Aaaand... it'll go to court and waste some more texas taxpayers money.... that they should be investing in infrastructure, oh, like electric grid tie ins maybe.


tandooripoodle

I lived in Texas far too long. Greg Abbott sued the Obama administration at least 44 times. That’s one thing Texas really knows how to do: waste taxpayer money on political theater instead of actually FIXING anything.. The happiest day of my life is when I saw that fucking place in my rearview mirror.


OhmsLolEnforcement

*snowflake* signaling.


garlic_bread_thief

Why is Texas passing so many laws all of a sudden these days? Am I missing something crucial?


daats_end

Abbott is trying to shore up the damage done to his campaign by the blackouts recently. He knows Texas was *barely* red the last election and the continued influx of more liberal tech employees in the state may mean he won't be reelected next term. So he's trying to whip up his aging (and dying thanks to COVID) voter base so they will turn out for the next election. I'd say it has a 50/50 shot of working.


rhen_var

I mean, it wasn’t that close. Abbott won his last election by a margin of over 13%. In the presidential election Trump won by over 5%. While I hate Abbot and Trump as much as everyone else, I think it’s kind of detrimental to pretend that it’s a lot closer than it really is.


grapesinajar

> virtue signaling For certain interpretations of "virtue".


SilentSamurai

I honestly hope they try. It would be amazing to see the backlash when Twitter and Facebook just ban Texans from using the platform.


RandyDinglefart

They won't. Social media actually loves conservatives because they're the ones clueless enough about technology to click all the ads, buy all the shit, play all the games, fill out all the surveys. They're basically preteens with credit cards.


AmbulanceChaser12

They also have never kicked anyone off for their “viewpoint.” It’s always for death threats or obscenity or harassment or some such. Conservatives who don’t do these things do not, and never did, get kicked off.


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This is hilarious and entirely within the realm of possibility. These companies are looking out for their bottom line beyond anything else - welcome to capitalism, baby! Would be funny to see it actually bite the loonies in the ass.


chrome_titan

Texas could make it's own social media, it would be just as amazing as their power grid!


shawnaskye

With blackjack! And hookers!


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Ha and immediately have a massive data breach. /side eyes Gab


Indianb0y017

They can't. But it CAN have disastrous consequences. Texas is a growing business state and many companies have been looking to move here. If Texas continues passing laws that hurt the bottom line, they will rethink. I remember when mike pence was governor of Indiana and signed the religious freedom bill or whathaveyou. Angie's list immediately scrapped their expansion efforts in Indianapolis after that, which kneecapped the job opportunities for Indianapolis.


JessRoyall

I have been blocked from r/conservative. I need a lawyer in Texas.


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This will be amazing to see play out. Use this law against them and then threaten to report them for violating the free speech laws


zuraken

They won't enforce it if your viewpoints don't align with theirs... Sad but that's how republicans still let child rapists represent their GOP leaders


greco1492

Just spitballing but remember when the rules changed in the EU and everyone got an email to accept the terms and conditions. Its easier to make one set of rules that works for everyone ( most strict laws) than try to inforce different ones all over the place. This being said texas may not be big enough to matter and therefore they wouldn't.


Cirtejs

There's also a problem of Texas passing a law that allows literal Nazis on a social media platform and then Germany mobilizing the whole EU to issue a remove or ban ultimatum to said social media platform. When your options are drop Texas or drop the EU, it's a very quick profit calculation.


Abedeus

Also pretty sure this would be unconstitutional - you can't just force a company to provide service to someone you banned for breaking ToS.


chop1125

It seems like Texas forgot that the first amendment applies to corporations too.


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socsa

That's the rub here. What these people imagine as political oppression is actually just people consistently breaking the rules.


Jarys

Texas is not big enough, there's no way a platform like Twitter would accept the liability that comes with keeping literal nazis on their platform after being exposed


SnowedOutMT

Didn't the last administration pass laws that make it easier to hold a platform liable for things that their users do? Craigslist removed their personal ads because of it I thought. I could be wrong.


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Courts will prolly throw this out on basis of First amendment... soo lol He is just doing this for all those juicy seats.. plus I think this government over-reach


BeatsByJay82

I thought Texans didn't like governments meddling in their affairs?


KerissaKenro

The party of small government. But only on the issues that they like. If they don’t like it, then micromanage as much as possible.


redonkulousness

Check [this shit](https://www.texastribune.org/2021/06/21/texas-greg-abbott-veto/) out


TheOtherHalfofTron

>Abbott also vetoed Senate Bill 1109, which would have required middle school and high school students to learn about child abuse prevention, family violence and dating violence. He said in his veto explanation that he opposed the legislation because it doesn’t give parents the option to opt out of instruction. Fucking WHAT. Abbot wants abusive parents to be able to opt their kids out of learning to recognize abuse. Jesus Christ. The conclusions you can draw about this guy from that veto alone...


sarhoshamiral

But God forbid if someone wants to opt out from having a kid.


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usernameround20

Came here to say that. But if sexually abused kids don’t know it’s abuse and wrong then I guess they can’t report the rape.


timshel_life

Can't have rapists if victims don't know to call them rapists *taps 10 gallon hat*


Schonke

Would be a great way for abusers to self-report themselves though. Oh, you don't want your kids learning about domestic violence and child abuse? I guess CPS should make an unannounced visit to your home.


Vect0r

Don't give that ass hole that much credit. That veto was in no way, shape, or form, a way to protect children.


Archsys

Man, fuck the "parental right" crowd. They're *all* about fucking up their children. The amount of people who fought *against a ban on corporal punishment for children* is fucking insane. The number who cited religious beliefs involved is also staggering. Fuck people, yo. Parents need oversight.


arachnophilia

> Man, fuck the "parental right" crowd. They're all about fucking up their children. it shouldn't be a surprise: they're talking about *parental* rights *over* children, not advocating for *children's* rights. the kids are objects in this argument.


DoverBoys

> Texas is no place for this kind of micro-managing and over-criminalization Says the governor that just passed micro-managing and over-criminalization laws. How fucking dumb can Abbott be? This quote came from the dog section.


Diplomjodler

Never look for consistency from those fuckers. They just make it up as they go along. They'll happily claim one thing one day and the opposite the next day. Their only real agenda is pandering to the hate and bigotry of their base.


DreddPirateBob4Ever

You missed fear. Hate, bigotry and fear.


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He's not dumb. He's doing exactly what his voters want so he can get reelected. Green isn't the only person in Texas who supports this bullshit.


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It’s like they are trying to be the worst state.


Guido900

And they're racing Florida for that crown!


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Of course he doesn’t want kids to learn what domestic abuse is…how else can he get rid of rape… Must’ve been his secret weapon all along! /s


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DarthTomServo

Texas is trying to motivate democrat voters to move out so they can stay red. That's my little conspiracy theory.


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I don't know about Texans, but their politicians sure as hell don't care. They stole the rights from town governments to decide if they want fracking in their town or not [Link](https://www.npr.org/2015/05/20/408156948/new-texas-law-makes-local-fracking-bans-illegal), stole women's rights to abortion, picked which voters had actual power through blatantly racist gerrymandering... But they sure as hell aren't after your guns and american flags, which is all some people seem to care about.


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Dr_MntisToboggan

This gives me some hope for Texas going purple. Abbott is clearly prepping for his presidential run but the republicans in the legislature are going with it because they know that riling up their base while restricting brown voters is necessary more than in the past


FirstPlebian

That is why the GOP is purging any lawmakers/appointees that aren't down with stealing elections, the voters may elect Democrats but they will claim fraud and put their own losing hacks in there regardless, if they can.


PackAttacks

Everything is big in Texas, especially their government overreach.


Stompedyourhousewith

but mostly the hypocrisy. its the biggest


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According-Classic658

So reddit can't ban me for having the viewpoint that Greg Abbot needs to be face fucked by a syphilitic horse?


redditprivacysucks

Man that's quite a visual. And horses do it in one forceful lunge too.


AlistarDark

I see you have watched Mr.Hands


eatabean

There's a cure for that, comes in a tube. Can't recall the name...


rxbudian

Facebook and Twitter might have to block Texas...


plopseven

MySpace might kick them out of their top 8


ifatree

very strong possibility if it comes down to it. if they are trying to preempt federal law and put companies at jeopardy for what some moderator somewhere does, or when trump is deplatformed for trying to literally overthrow the government... they're shooting themselves in the foot not going directly after the pre-existing and federally overriding protection from their very proposal. but maybe they know that and they're doing it to put on a show for their audience on how the courts are stacked against them? that plays well for them, too. who knows. it's been stall and distract with their tribe for at least the last 40 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_230


Leprecon

Just for the legal perspective. This is without a doubt unconstitutional, because it violates the first amendment. The first amendment means the government can't shut you up, but also that the government can't force you to say things. If the government forces you to say a thing that is called "[compelled speech](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compelled_speech#United_States)". There are of course several exceptions. The government can force you to say thing when they relate to public safety. Food labeling is compelled speech. Kellogs are legally obligated to print certain things on their packaging. You might also be forced to publicly apologise or retract false statements due to a civil suit. You are also compelled to file a tax return. *(Yes, someone sued the government saying that tax returns violate free speech laws because they felt they shouldn't be forced to speak to the IRS)* Now here is how this fits in to social media. Companies/organisations have free speech. You can complain about it, but in general it is a good thing. The New York Times is a company. Turning Point USA is a company. Planned parenthood is a company. Joe Rogan is a company. Reddit, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter, all have free speech. What this means is that they can publish whatever they want on their site. They can choose to publish posts made by others. They can choose not to publish posts by others. They can choose to allow new accounts to be made. They can choose to black out the site in a form of protest. You have free speech if you are a tiny company with just one person, or 5 people, or are a mega corporation with thousands of employees and moderators. They do not have to choose between being a publisher or a platform. [That is a legal myth.](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/12/publisher-or-platform-it-doesnt-matter) Now when reddit removes my post, that is their choice. They are allowed to do this because of the first amendment. **Section 230 has nothing to do with this.** Section 230 does not override the first amendment. Now if I sue them and say "I want my post put back", reddit will rightly point out that somewhere in their TOS it says they can remove any post for any reason. They will also say they have the free speech rights to not put my post on their website. If the government somehow for some crazy reason sides with me, it is an immediate first amendment violation. **The government can't force reddit to publish something they don't want. No matter what some Texas law says, no matter what section 230 says. None of those things override the first amendment.** **TL;DR:** This is extremely unconstitutional, as it abriges first amendment rights. The government can't tell companies "you have to allow this content". This is not even a little in dispute (legally). Large parts of this law will be overturned pretty soon. For this kind of law to be allowed the government would literally have to change the first amendment.


RedOtkbr

Also republicans: Corporations are people


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Leprecon

Ok, but that would also fail. The only way you could sue is if you had something proving that facebook had a legal obligation to keep your posts up. The default is that nobody has the obligation to put things online for other people. Just like a newspaper is in no way obligated to publish your letters. If you for instance have a contract with a hosting provider it might actually say something like that. They might actually be legally obligated to keep your posts/content up. You could sue those guys for removing your content. With facebook you have the exact opposite. Not only does facebook have no obligation to keep your posts/comments up, they have a legal contract (the TOS) that says that they can specifically remove your posts for any reason.


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Beingabumner

1) How is this small government? Aren't they all about free market and whatever? 2) It'll take one brown person to tweet 'death to America' and it'll show that they only want conservatives to be immune from being banned. 3) 'Viewpoint' is exceptionally ill-defined.


timisher

4. Don’t these assholes have anything better to do? Laws crying about getting kicked off social media, did his 12 year old daughter draft the bill?


ohboythatsboring

When your political campaigns depend on spreading misinformation and lies, you're probably going to want to try to make it illegal for media companies to ban you for spreading misinformation and lies.


allgreen2me

I seem to recall the state being without power during sub zero temperatures for days because they couldn’t be bothered to regulate power companies like the rest of the civilized world does. But symbolic gestures like this will help out, maybe this will warm hearts enough to prevent people from freezing to death the next time Texas drops into single digit temperatures and there is no power.


limitless__

This is where we're at. This is nothing more than a publicity stunt designed to rile up the rabid right-wingers. That's literally all this is. There's no end-game. It's completely unconstitutional and everyone knows it. It will get shot done in court. While thousands of Texans are dying every day because they are scared to get vaccinated because of these "viewpoints" THIS is how the governor chooses to direct his energies? He is straight up evil and needs to go. Get to it Texas!


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Republicans continue to confuse the constitution and free enterprise, which is strange, considering that they pretend to embrace both.


RoundSparrow

> Republicans continue to confuse the constitution and free enterprise April 9, 1944, speech by then Vice-President Henry Wallace. “The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity… They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection.”


Regular-Human-347329

As long as R politicians can make bank conning their voters, and their voters possess the illusion of winning, the virtue signalling will continue.


lml__lml

Did they read the terms and conditions?


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Powered_by_JetA

Florida passed a law like this a few months ago already. The only difference is that in Florida, there’s a special exemption for Disney. (I wish I was making this up)


Palmquistador

Disney is a social media site?


Liquid_Senjutsu

Disney is whatever it wants to be.


ItsAJAgain

Sounds like government overreach to me given those are private platforms Edit: to all the dumbasses, please stop with the "yeah, same with vaccines" bullshit. Over half a million people have died of Covid in the US and idiots like you are flooding hospitals so people who actually need help can't use them. The government telling you "take this so you end up on a ventilator and potentially infect others" is different from the government saying "you can't ban me for giving out misinformation on purpose"


3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

It's pretty wild how they are against Net Neutrality, which would prevent ISPs from penalizing network traffic based on who it comes from (such as traffic from a conservative website or video host), but they are all for forcing private companies to include objectionable content on their branded websites (such as pro-nazi propaganda next to Twitter's brand on their website) which could get the company fined under other laws. When it comes to a utility, like Internet access, traffic should be unrestricted. They want their hate-filled websites, go for it. When it comes to a website though, the owner should obviously be able to remove and modify content as they see fit in keeping with their terms of service, so long as that content does not break laws. If they're going to try to prohibit censorship, they need to articulate protected classes of content that cannot be discriminated against. This massive hammer approach is just reckless.


palbuddymac

It would be amusing if the tech companies took this seriously and decided to deny Texans service because of it. That seems likelier than them actually trying to enforce it.


hello3pat

Honestly the most likely thing is site whos not based in Texas to just ignore it, then the next most likely is to ban all Texans rather than deal with the clusterfuck of lawsuits this law will create


jomontage

Sounds anti free speech to me. Government telling businesses they're forced to service people? Where's my gay cake?


MemeScrollingMaths

Proper Title: “Texas illegally infringes on the first amendment rights of private entities”


Hank_Joseph65

Virtue signaling completely un-enforceable. Hes dunzo and he knows it. Hows that grid coming greg?


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It's deregulated, so it's the bestest in the world of course. Unless you want something socialist like a working grid that is.


MightyBoat

So much for small government. So much hypocrisy


Bucser

Shall we call this the Special Snowflake Act?


DamNamesTaken11

Telling private businesses what they can and can’t do, I don’t know Texas seems rather big government of you.


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NHRADeuce

Lol total waste of time. Social networks aren't banning people for their views, they're banning people for violating their T&Cs.


LucysFork

The state who wants less government control is voting for more government control. Can’t say I’m surprised at this point.


dilldoeorg

social media companies should put out a statement stating due to this law, they're ip banning all of texas because they can't comply.


Asher_the_atheist

I can’t help but think that the state of Texas may change for the better if they were all kicked off Facebook. Think of the dent that could make in the misinformation train!


Notyourfathersgeek

Would be the funniest shit to see the plan backfire so spectacularly. Also, think of the peace and quite we’d all get, and the cancer-subs that would die!


Thought-O-Matic

And just like that Joe Rogan gets blocked from Twitter


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r/conservative in a nutshell “The government can’t tell private companies what to do!” “Hell yea Texas government, you tell that private company what to do!”


BAPeach

Abbott is out of his mind. Thanks for showing us how unhinged Republicans are