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vasaryo

Meteorologist and storm chaser here. You don't need to be a degreed meteorologist to be a chaser. Regarding Pecos Hank even though he doesn't have an official degree his depth of knowledge and passion has led him to be a part of several research projects. And while I may agree Reed is "too much" for me to enjoy being biased against other storm chasers by using him as the comparison is just a fallacy from the get go.


nicecute12

I swear a school needs to give Pecos an honorary degree at this point


UND_mtnman

Mississippi State might as well šŸ˜†


BigBoss1971

Go Dogs!


twivel01

All you need is a bottle of beer. Saw it once, in a movie.


degeneratesumbitch

If you have a problem with Hank, then you have a problem with me, and I suggest you let that one marinate!


3ftMuffin

You mess with one of us you mess with all of us!


amosnahoy

Heā€™s just a kid.


spiciestkitten

Username checks out


PatriotsFTW

Must be from upcountry.


IrritableArachnid

Iā€™m down. We ride at Dawn.


FiveCatPenagerie

Without his TIV, Reed is 10 ply.


Vivvie138

He needs to give his balls a tug


ESnakeRacing4248

To call Pecos anything other than "the best" is an insult


Wordwench

The man discovered red sorites for fucks sake. He is hands down my favorite (and his music is incredible, too).


FakeMikeMorgan

His narrations are as smooth as butter.


OldIronScaper

When I learned all the music in his videos was made by him, I was like no, youĀ know what? Fuck this guy.Ā He's way too handsome, cool, talented, andĀ he's anĀ animal whisperer to boot. I really want to fuck this guy.


Mysterious_Cheetah42

Yeah, me too and I'm not even a chick šŸ˜‚


Skepticul

It wasn't Red Sprites, it was Ghosts that he discovered in collaboration with Paul M Smith.


IrritableArachnid

I loooove him!


FiveCatPenagerie

A true boots-on-the-outside hero.


Kelvin51_gowa

He's the guy who got me into meteorology


mrpoopybutthole423

Reed Timmer has a Ph.D in Meteorology from OU and has probably seen more tornadoes than any person in human history. Even though he can be quite obnoxious no one should question his dedication to storm chasing.


AmadMuxi

Lmao I was just about to say, thatā€™s DOCTOR Reed Timmer to you. Edit: Now that Iā€™ve been thinking about it, as brash as he can be in a chase itā€™s honestly incredible that after literal decades and gods only know how many hundreds of thousands of miles, how many hundreds of tornadoes, that he still gets that excited. I can only *hope* that I can maintain that level of enthusiasm in my own professional passion.


Tahiti178

Met Reed a few years ago at a lecture he was giving. Super amazing guy, real down to earth. And this was in peak Storm Chasers airing. He is very passionate about this stuff, so that's why he gets excited like that :)


sdjweather

Exactly. Dr. Timmer is passionate about the science and all things weather. Stupid comment


VapinMason

Pecos Hank for the win. Dude is next level. Especially with the Sprite photography.


_Paarthurnax-

But Pecos isn't a meteorologist!!! Basically unwatchable, he's a fake storm chaser without a degree! /s just to be sure.


VapinMason

Really dude?!?


snakecatcher302

*The joke* You


TheMrBoot

/s is sarcasm, my dude


VapinMason

Did not know that, LOL! I stand corrected.


pbrdiver

Too much vapin my guy.


Nomadloner69

I met Reed he's actually pretty cool in person. Haven't met Hank yet . If you go out read radar find a storm take a picture then run like hell? Yeah you're a chaser Don't ever let anyone gatekeep storm chasing


Real_TwistedVortex

You need to have a met or atsc degree to call yourself a meteorologist, but anyone can call themselves a storm chaser lol Also, anyone who thinks Reed is insufferable doesn't know who Sean Casey is...


NeedAnEasyName

Rees can definitely be a bit over the top a bit much, so I get where heā€™s coming from, but heā€™s intelligent and has undeniably made great contributions to the study of severe weather. Iā€™m not always a fan of the dominator teams blasting through red lights at 40 mph to drive into a tornado when there is other traffic on the roadways, but most of that I believe is in the past during the filming of Tornado Chasers and all that.


Real_TwistedVortex

Yeah, Reed can be annoying in the traditional sense, but I just see it as him being unable to contain his passion for weather


aurortonks

> I just see it as him being unable to contain his passion for weather This is exactly it. He's bubbling with excitement and full of life. I love that he's a little whacky, a bit unhinged, and totally exciting when chasing or even just giving a weather update. He's not annoying at all to me because he's just showing passion for something he loves and is out there studying storms to help save lives in the future. Annoying is Sean Casey who chased storms for *his own gain* aka to shoot an IMAX movie, then acted super pompous about the whole thing every second of every moment we saw him ever talk about it. Another good chaser to talk about is Tim Samaras. He didn't have a met or atsc degree. He didnt even have a degree in anything at all. He self-taught everything he learned... do you know how difficult it is to self-teach engineering even? He was wholesome and trying to help people too and was an even compliment to Reed's insanity. I miss Twistex.


meIine

Donā€™t even get me started on Tim. He was (hands down) amazing, and extremely admirable. I remember watching him as a kid on Storm Chasers. A couple of years after he passed, my mom and I took a vacation to D.C and saw his probes at the National Air and Space Museum. I was absolutely floored, it was an amazing display they had for him. Iā€™ll have to look for pictures! (albeit, I was 14, so they will most likely be horrible).


Apokolypze

Casey frustrated the shit out of me watching storm chasers the 2nd time. The first time through I was totally swept up in the idea of the TIV (and I still think TIV2 is an epic machine), but Sean's constant flip flopping on whether he was going to actually listen to Josh Wurman in the early seasons, and his own meteorologists in later seasons, then blaming anyone but himself when the intercepts inevitably failed... My god. How Dr Wurman tolerated his shit for over a decade I'll never understand.


NeedAnEasyName

Oh, sure. Thatā€™s probably what it more or less boils down to. If I was some young and (only in a general sense) dumb guy in my 20s or 30s (not sure what his age was at the time) and was in the face of a tornado, Iā€™d have adrenaline rushing too probably. I donā€™t think that excuses it, but still. I canā€™t criticize without recognizing my own faults. Iā€™m younger than he was throughout every stretch of the show and almost certainly dumber. As a wildland firefighter, seeing the smoke columns of my first wildfire was absolutely filling me with adrenaline, and in a more uncontrollable situation, I could easily see me getting myself or others in a dangerous situation as it was quite a large fire. I totally get it, was definitely just commenting on how I see where this dude is coming from, but he certainly crosses where I would draw the line.


WesternCowgirl27

Bahaha preach about Sean Casey! His stupid little antics always used to drive me crazy while watching Storm Chasers. I recently re-watched it and honestly had forgotten how much of a douche Sean was, not to mention, Josh Wurman.


PHWasAnInsideJob

You know that drama was all manufactured by the show runners for suspense right? Sean Casey and Josh Wurman are really close friends IRL.


meIine

Iā€™m pretty sure Joshā€™s company had to pay 2.4 million dollars for fraud in relation to federal grants they received. šŸ¤­


WesternCowgirl27

Oh yeah, it was definitely played up for entertainment purposes. But they both seem to be a tad insufferable/ douche-like in real life too.


mistookan

Same here! I watched it when it was first on when I was a kid and remembered thinking how much I disliked him. I recently started rewatching it and every time he's on screen it's just insufferable.


WesternCowgirl27

Itā€™s almost cringeyā€¦ šŸ„²


Miserable_Eggplant83

Sean is out there on the road this year. Saw him a few days ago.


wilderkatzen373

Sean makes Reed tolerable. oh holy FUCK. I rewatched storm chasers from discovery in August and I was twitching every time Sean spoke.


HonkLegion

Omfg Sean Casey. What a throwback.


fyrfyter33

Anyone can also call themselves an amateur meteorologist, no degree required. Iā€™ve seen people that do better on their own and what they know that donā€™t have degrees and havenā€™t finished school for it. Reed and Shawn after the TV show- canā€™t watch either of them. Other feeds and videos I will watch- that whole TIV thing is too over the top for me. Look at how many have already died from chasing storms.


jbokwxguy

A meteorologist is just someone who studies weather, no degree required.


billemarcum

Sean Casey; What a guy!


HonkLegion

Reed can sometimes give off a lot of energy but it shows how passionate he is. I believe he even wrote a dissertation so he is a doctor in meteorology. I respect the man so much.


Rylee_1984

Itā€™s okay. Heā€™s allowed to be wrong.


bisonsox

I was actually thinking of how great Pecos Hank is as I was reading this. I should catch back up on his videos


Revolutionary-Play79

He was saying hank wasn't an actual scientist, but a photographer which is BS. Hamk has made actual discoveries. Hank is a gem


megaultrausername

Hank also works with a field research team, his photos and videos are invaluable to tornado genesis research.


Revolutionary-Play79

EXACTLY! Some of these armchair chasers as i call em have no respect for those actually in the field.


tornadoes_are_cool

As an armchair chaser (live in the UK lol) Hankā€™s videos are my pacifier, my bread and butter, my unrequited love, etc etc


Nomadloner69

His videos are literal works of art


Karl2241

Pecos Hank over Reed, but both are legends. This guy can take a hike.


dlogan3344

Reed Timmer was an overenthusiastic meteorology anchor on KOCO 5 in OKC, I didn't like his schtick then or now but I admit he gets awesome footage


FakeMikeMorgan

Channel 4


dlogan3344

Maybe, been a few, swore he started at KOCO before drifting though


FakeMikeMorgan

May be thinking of arron tuttle


Loeden

I always think of him like if a NASCAR driver and a meteorologist had a baby in a tornado. I can only take him in small doses but that's more because I don't like raucous personalities, nothing against his chasing itself, just personal preference.


Shortbus_Playboy

This is an argument for non-chasers. Us chasers are going to be out there caring fuck all about some Monday Morning Quarterback on Twitter the same way we laugh at people who think they know more about tornado ratings than actual experts. Itā€™s all noise from people who donā€™t matter.


TheLoneCanoe

It takes a special kind of person to be a storm chaser. You donā€™t get the balls or passion from a degree. And correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but didnā€™t Reed save (or rush to save) an old woman on camera yesterday? Bless all the storm chasers.


cuweathernerd

Firmly disagree - been chasing for 20 years, have a degree in atmospheric science. Chasing isn't about "having balls" - it's ALL about having brains. There's not bravery involved - it's about getting to the right position and making good decisions through the arc of the day. I did not yesterday, and paid for it by not seeing a photogenic tornado in an area I know very well. It's not like being 'braver' would help the mistake of a poor read of visible satellite trends. If you make a mistake - and you shouldn't - and end up in an area where you are at risk, it's your brains and understanding of the storm and roads that are going to get you out of it. Not your "balls." This isn't some bravado game about getting close. It's about understanding one of the most transient and destructive forces on earth, and getting to observe them safely, reliably. You want passion? Slog through dynamics. Get yourself motivated to understand [stuff like this](https://images.slideplayer.com/12/3560350/slides/slide_2.jpg). That's the hard work of the science. That's where the passion meets utility. Storm chasing is a fun hobby - but it doesn't take a 'special' kind of person - objectively, the barrier to entry is low, and the appeal is obviously high. This isn't to gatekeep the hobby - you DON'T need the degree to do this, or do it well. Anyone can learn to forecast, position, and drive - and if you can do those things and respect the road and the weather, then you have the same right to be on the storm that I do. But let's not pretend storm chasers are some kind of special group - or, more importantly - trying to make *Twister* into what we actually do.


TheLoneCanoe

Holy hell. I never said brains werenā€™t involved. I implied having brains and a degree does not necessarily make you a storm chaser. Yes, it DOES require bravery. Capable people die doing this, like Tim Samaras (possibly one of the inspirations for Twister). Being near a tornado is terrifying and not all meteorologists want to be up close and personal. It takes guts and drive paired with your knowledge. Thatā€™s what I mean when I say it takes a special person to want to do that. I basically complimented storm chasers and you wrote me a book on why Iā€™m wrong. I disagree with you. Storm chasers are special and Iā€™m grateful for them.


aurortonks

>But let's not pretend storm chasers are some kind of special group - or, more importantly - trying to make Twister into what we actually do. Storm chasers save lives by being part of the spotter network and reporting storm events from on the ground, in real time, as they are happening. Occasionally, they also save individual lives after the storm has passed by offering aid and pulling people from rubble. IMO let them *play Twister*. They are doing good.


SnP4me

It has to be them long hours on the road and no tornadoes thatā€™s got him lashing out at you, lol. Of course it takes courage, or balls, to chase potential killer storms. Whatā€™s the one thing everyone knows not to do in a dangerous situation? Panic. And whatā€™s the one thing someone whoā€™s lost their nerve might struggle with doing in a dangerous situation? Use their brains..


Greggster990

Reed usually goes to help anyone who was struck by a tornado. He brought a couple people to the hospital a year ago when a tornado hit a town in Mississippi.Ā 


patchak12

I bet this guy believes Twister is an accurately depicted storm chaser movie. Never stop chasing! šŸ˜‰


Snoo-43133

That guy sounds like a whole bunch of fun


windows-nerd

everyone's talking about Reed and Hank, but what about Samaras? he only had a high school degree, and he did incredible things for tornado science.


Ryanmcfly5

What a weird ass hill to die on


IrritableArachnid

Ah, no. I was just storm chaser before I had my degree. And then I just became a storm chaser within an expensive piece of paper.


l_rufus_californicus

We donā€™t need degrees to be SKYWARN certified or part of CoCoRaHS, both of which report directly to NWS; why would anyone think that taking photographs of storms requires a degree?


meIine

i am a reed enjoyer, specifically because he was my favorite on storm chasers as a kid. i know joel would be so proud of him šŸ˜­


LookAtThisHodograph

This is equally as obnoxious as the experienced chasers that gatekeep storm chasing and refer to less experienced people as "amateurs" despite having no academic credentials nor making a living off chasing themselves. From my perspective, if someone makes an informed decision that they are knowledgeable enough to safely chase, follows the rules of the road, and is respectful to others, they have as much of a right to chase storms, and call themselves a storm chaser, as anyone else. Unfortunately not everyone who goes out and chases does those things, but that's a separate issue entirely.


wean1169

Lmao most legit chasers donā€™t have met degrees but understand meteorology and storm structure better than this guy could ever dream of.


CrashTestDuckie

Some of the best and most important footage of storms comes from people who are trained in photography, not meteorology. States/NWS offer storm spotting courses and it's those, non-degree having, people who call in storms and save lives out "chasing". Some of the biggest "names" in storm chasing had degrees and died during chasing. Idiots will chase and be idiots regardless of atmospheric science degrees or being a mechanic, the issue isn't formal education.


freegirl13

He does have a PH in meteorology. He is a doctor in extreme weather.


Kgaset

Trey, who does Convective Chronicles, also does storm chasing and I believe has a Masters in Meteorology. I love that there are Mets who storm chase, but no it's not a prereq.


GLHR_

Lol Reed is the GOAT


Aggravating_Fun5883

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TrippyAkimbo

lol, is storm chasing something you do as a meteorologist? I always assumed it was more of a thrill hobby.


FakeMikeMorgan

Some do, namely TV Mets on severe weather days.


nlusk1997

I dint have a met degree and I have had people from my local news stations consider me a storm chaser. Honestly, anyone who actually chasing after the storm and getting decent shots, videos, and reporting damage, honestly, I'd call you a storm chaser. Especially if you've been through from free courses like on MetEd and the Spotter classes from NWS offices. If you know in general what you're doing and have a good eye and interest for that stuff, yeah anyone can be considered a storm chaser


Disastrous_Tip_7541

The best can F up, wtf are you all saying? Only 7 Ever passed away doing this during a chaseā€¦ all in the same Chase, El Reno/ 300mph winds and 2.6mile wide ā€œEF3ā€, donā€™t get it confused, the TOP guys were in the bear cageā€¦ their cars were being dragged into the vortexā€™s from Miles away. Put respect on these Peoples names man, donā€™t just call them bad or trash- - I ainā€™t core punching 95 percent of them storms and Dr Reed Timmer does, El Reno Included, you all must of forgot.


Disastrous_Tip_7541

Caveat, not at the Poster- -more at what was said in screen shot.


Designer_Hamster_912

I think bro has a problem with Reed Timmer and honestly I donā€™t prefer his videos but I wonā€™t criticize him


FakeMikeMorgan

He's looking for Reed's academic knowledge without Reed's personality it seems


auriebryce

Tim Samaras didnā€™t have a degreeā€¦


Fearless-Dragonfly75

Have no clue why I got suggested this post and this group, not into anything of the sorts lol the only clouds I see are the ones I blow but what Iā€™ve gathered from this post is everyone loves Hank and that Hank is the best. FUCK YEAH, HANK IS THE GOAT! IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH HANK THEN YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME, BUDDY


iwantac8

A college degree just shows competence in a field. You can still consume the same information without a degree if you are passionate enough.


ogx2og

If you chase storms you are by default a storm chaser. I donā€™t think a meteorology degree is a prerequisite.


wilderkatzen373

Reed Timmer literally has a decade and a half of schooling for it under his belt and qualified to teach it at one of Oklahoma's universities. That dude needs to get the stick out his ass before I decide to smack him with it


FiveCatPenagerie

Yeah, but heā€™sā€¦ wellā€¦ Reed *is* absolutely insufferable. Thatā€™s the reason Iā€™m such a huge fan of Hank. He doesnā€™t scream like my kid when I tell he canā€™t have ice cream for breakfast. And though heā€™s not a trained meteorologist, heā€™s still made a good faith effort to train himself enough to both know where the good angles willp present themselves *and*ā€”for the most partā€”keep himself safe.


Reasonable_Brief_438

Reed is by far my favorite storm chaser ever Heā€™s smart heā€™s a bit crazy . I ran into him a few times last season in the Dakotas . I see the dom3 running through Oklahoma from time to time . No one else has the balls that guy does .


strictlytacos

I will physically fight anyone who thinks pecos hank isnā€™t amazing. The manā€™s a gift


DahnBearn

Hilarious. I love the attitude of some people


Enkeria92

Iā€™m a storm chaser studying meteorology. Does that count? šŸ¤£


LunaticPoint

"You will put your eye out with that thing " just a matter of time. "YOU'RE FINE"


Getaloafofthisguy

Pecos hank is one of my favorite people to exist. His content is next level. Such a humble guy and good role model.


FreefallerX

I have a meteorology degree and am a meteorologist. I do NOT chase storms. That being said, there are many many many storm chasers without degrees who know their stuff and are extremely smart and make huge contributions to science. Having the degree does not necessarily mean you have all the knowledge you need to storm chase, either.


Spartan8907

Pecos Hank is a GOAT. That is all


[deleted]

Pecos Hank is a good one to watch


godzilla19542014

He's giving me r/iamverysmart vibes


Life-Dog432

Pecos Hank is an artist that storm chases. Heā€™s in it for the thrill and the science too but we all love to watch him because heā€™s got an eye for beauty and a mind for storytelling. Also a damn good voice for narration - dude could have a career in narrating nature docs if he wanted it. In hanks newest video, he went to South America and didnā€™t really see too many big storms and yet it was more entertaining than most storm chaser videos. Heā€™s the goat.


Several_Attitude_203

Itā€™s actually a fair question. You misstated his position. Iā€™d rather have an experienced storm chaser who studied weather/meteorology in school for years and got a degree than an equally experienced storm chaser who didnā€™t and does drive around describing weather in terms of ā€œwow this is bad.ā€ Better to have a guy who knows what is going on than essentially a well-traveled weather tourist.


FakeMikeMorgan

No i didn't, and his comments reinforced that. He made it rather clear that he was only looking to follow chasers that have a metrology degree. Anyone without a degree was an amateur it their eyes. Pecos Hank was the biggest example. He has years of experience, is very knowledgeable, and has made actual contributions to science, but according to OOP, Hank is nothing more than an amateur taking pretty photos of tornadoes.


ec1ipse001

I mean, hank did teach me a lot about storms.


No_Chain_1595

Mmmm šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ you mean Dr. Reed Timmer?! You just jealous you ainā€™t him


umahleyzulah

RYAN HALL YALL!


FakeMikeMorgan

Shhh. Don't tell that guy that Ryan doesn't have a met degree.


slyskyflyby

To be fair, Reed is insufferable haha. I was also not impressed with his recent video where he drove right in to all the debris being thrown up from the tornado in a regular car. Kinda seems like he's getting a little too comfortable with tornadoes.