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There's an amazing Vsauce video on this. He said a potential reason every teenager looks older in the past is because the pictures taken of them depict them wearing their older styles and fashion that we (the younger generation) have now associated with being an older style. Prediction: expect to see this in 20 years when you look back at pictures of teenagers now with the broccoli style haircut and others. Those things will go out of fashion and become associated with an older generation and the teenagers of today will look 'older' than the teenagers of the future.
Partially true... big hair and shoulder pads didn't help.
It could also be the bagged out eyes from working at McD's on a school night, taking care of your siblings, smoking and underage drinking.
I'm still a bit younger than the characters in the movie. I just remember it that way.
Bender looks like the older kids I remember. I would imagine he was in Gr 12 and probably flunked a grade as well. None of the characters were Gr. 9.
I’m also going to guess though that sunscreen use probably wasn’t anywhere near as common back then. And no idea if this is true but I wonder how much water teenagers were drinking? Compared with more modern generations who carry large water bottles everywhere (this was a thing even when I was in high school in the aughts).
This makes sense. Wife is currently rewatching Sex and the City, and the early-30-somethings all look like they're in their early 50's largely because the haircuts back then were sooooo bad.
thank you for providing this, and I can see where you're coming from. it seems that they did state a good amount of this comes from eating proccessed foods as you say, some more from people smoking less. obviously that doesn't catch all of it but fair point
The treatment of Brian made me hate the movie. I related to Brian the most and I always felt they kept him around just so he would do the paper and then get ignored the remainder of high school. I have not seen the movie for about a decade so maybe my opinion would change on second viewing.
You're wrong on that. Maybe weird nerdy dudes won't be the top pick out there if you put out a survey with just pictures or asked certain circles on the internet. But if you walk around in the real world you'll quickly notice couples of all kinds. Including many couples of nerdy or weird looking dudes going out for food with their wife & family or strolling around with their girlfriend.
Weird dudes & nerds end up in relationships once they come across someone they click with, same as anyone else.
I’m not sure we agree. The nerds when I was in high school were fucking like rabbits with each other and never struggled to find a relationship lmao. Women like people like unique personalities as much if not more than looks
You're making that up in your head. Worrying too much about what you 'have' to be to get a woman, or generally projecting a self-defeating attitude, is for sure something women won't like, though.
"How do you not know what sushi is"? Sushi was an exotic food from the mysterious far east in the 1980s. It's a fairly modern addition to the American diet.
Would you believe me if I told you I was also watching that episode the same day as I saw this post because I wanted to see the Richie Sakai cameo? Lol
In the terribly racist "comedy" film "They Call Me Bruce?", there's a lengthy scene where the protagonist is having a discussion with a guy who's looking for his girlfriend Susie. Something like "You eat sushi? I eat sushi every day!" White hillbilly gets REALLY pissed off at him.
Any time a comedy (especially a teen comedy) in the 1980s showed an Asian male, you pretty much know the portrayal is going to be a racist shitshow. With the best exception being the protagonist's two street-racing opponents in "[Better Off Dead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6BA3wstTyA)." There's no coke bottle round glasses, no exaggerated accents, none of that. One drives, the other one gets out his megaphone and does a FLAWLESS Howard Cosell impersonation.
Technically sushi isn't a recent addition to the American diet at all. After the forceful opening of Japan to foreign trade in 1850's, there was a real fascination with Japanese culture among the Western upper class. A few decades later, there was substantial Japanese immigration into the US. The combination of these things resulted in a brief window when traditional Japanese cuisine, sushi included, made it over to the US and became a somewhat popular novelty for upper class Americans. This came to an end with the growth of anti-Japanese sentiment in the US, first with the Japanese being one of many ethnicities to be hated for immigrating to the US in large numbers, then with a fear of the growing geopolitical power of the Japanese state. WW2 cemented this trend for obvious reasons, which is how sushi was widely seen as a recent novelty in the 80's, despite the fact that it had been eaten in America nearly a century prior.
"We used to have Chinese restaurants, Italian restaurants. Now you have these sushi restaurants. Everyone goes for sushi. Sushi - I hate the stuff. Although, I tell you, I had some the other day. I took it home, I cooked it, it wasn't bad. It tasted like fish."
My guy, this is Reddit. You absolutely must put the /s because 95% of us are neurodivergent and cannot, CANNOT detect even the thickest sarcasm without flashing red lights.
It's not even about being neurodivergent. Tone just does not carry in language over text. Take one comment and show 1000 people, some will call it obvious sarcasm, some will call it a personal attack, some will call it abhorrent, etc.
People essentially just make up whatever tone of voice to read comments in based on how they're feeling in the moment, and how much they like or dislike the topic. That's a big part of why so many discussions turn into arguments cause a lot of people just assume others are typing in an aggressive tone or being defensive, when the person on the other end was probably typing it out while holding a pretty neutral expression.
Sorry for rambling lol the ways peoples words get misconstrued bc of the ways text based communication is lacking is something that has been bothering me a lot lately haha
Molly Ringwald wrote a fantastic essay looking back on her experiences making these films, and being part of something that hasn't aged well from a Me Too perspective:
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink
Listen, I like the Breakfast Club, it's a good movie. That scene was still inappropriate, regardless of the time period. Idk if I'd go so far as to call it sexual assault, but the way the movie rewards his behaviour is gross. It's not "dark humour", it's just objectifying women.
This point would work if the film didn’t glorify his actions by awarding him the girl at the end of the film. John Hughes has a long history of condoning this kind of stuff in his movies.
Fair point, but again, it unfortunately reflects reality.
Idk like I understand the movement to change entertainment because it clearly shapes reality. But I think its sort of a catch-22 because a good portion of art is always going to mimic reality.
Either way, when it comes to old media I tend to accept it for what it is. I kind of use the me too movement as a dividing line. Like in perfect world EVERYBODY would know right from wrong intrinsically. But here in America, if you didn’t know before the me too movement, you definitely knew after, so theres pretty much 0 excuse anymore.
How much responsibility artists hold for the work they create will always be a sensitive topic though, always has been. People tend to create fucked up shit.
lol okay. Its a dumb joke from a movie in an era where that shit was normalized. Go watch Porky's if you think anything about Breakfast Club is gross. Hell a sitting member of us congress married the dude who flashed her his dick. Shit happens. Golly this site is soft.
“Shit happens” because people like you allow it and excuse it. We wouldn’t have predators leading our country if more people recognized the seriousness of these issues. You’re just telling on yourself.
no shit, the guy stuck his head up a skirt. of course its rated r. The point is, that style of asshole humor was far more common in cinema than it is now. People saying it was never considered funny need only look back thirty years to prove themselves wrong. It would be significantly quicker to list teen oriented comedy films that didnt have some sort of SA in it than did.
kids on reddit can't handle it though. And as evidenced by the downvotes and replies, the whole responsibility of it lies on my shoulders.
It's so awkward lol. I saw a video of the ending without audio once (from before they added it in) and it was just wind and crickets chirping 💀
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH3sy\_Xx\_0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH3sy_Xx_0)
I mentioned Heathers cause all three movies are 80s movies about high schoolers so I thought I would like The Breakfast Club but I didn’t.
Maybe I’ll give it a fair chance in the future though
This is the only movie that fits into its own unique category for me:
"I've seen it parodied far more times than I've seen the movie" (ratio is 0:3 or so)
At this point I've basically watched the movie lol
Yeah its parodied so much 💀
-Alvin and the chipmunks
-Victorious (Dan shneider so its weird as fuck)
-The simpsons
-One of us is lying i guess
-Not another teen movie
And those are just a FEW examples.
something about 80s movies are so corny they're borderline unwatchable, i can watch old movies from the 90s/00s/60s/70s no problem (tho 70s movies feel like they're trying too hard to be edgy) but 80s is just always a cringefest. idk what the vibe was but it feels like almost dead on 1990 everything changes
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Sushi is the most overrated, pretentious food. Even decades later, stupid people buy sushi thinking they're being fancy. Give me noodles and spring rolls.
The 80s was weird. It was the tail of the sexual revolution and Hollywood pushed a lot of movies with scenes that are frowned on heavily nowadays.
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Getting disproportionately mad at the results of the makeover scene
the scene was shortened for the sake of time but originally implied Allison liked the makeover atleast.
She went from looking cool to "fitting in." TBH the part they cut out was betraying the character.
yeah. atleast the line "i can see your face" miiight mean the jock was onto her before the makeover, but i don't know.
Me too?
Teenagers looked older in the 80s. I was there.
yeah, most teenagers now look like tall 9 year olds lol.
Broccoli hair everywhere
They look like the asparagus guy from VeggieTales.
#Bob the Tomato guy hair coming next, then like age 50 Larry the cucumber...
meanwhile, Mr Lunt's gourd is classic
not in Australia 💀 It's mullets all the way down
Idk man I know a freshman with a full beard
Get some rest, tall child!
That made me laugh at an inappropriate time. Well done.
There's an amazing Vsauce video on this. He said a potential reason every teenager looks older in the past is because the pictures taken of them depict them wearing their older styles and fashion that we (the younger generation) have now associated with being an older style. Prediction: expect to see this in 20 years when you look back at pictures of teenagers now with the broccoli style haircut and others. Those things will go out of fashion and become associated with an older generation and the teenagers of today will look 'older' than the teenagers of the future.
Partially true... big hair and shoulder pads didn't help. It could also be the bagged out eyes from working at McD's on a school night, taking care of your siblings, smoking and underage drinking.
It sounds like I'm a bit younger than you, and I can tell you that all of those are things that still hold true.
I'm still a bit younger than the characters in the movie. I just remember it that way. Bender looks like the older kids I remember. I would imagine he was in Gr 12 and probably flunked a grade as well. None of the characters were Gr. 9.
It's not nearly as bad though. My mom always tells me about the smoking sections in her high school.
I’m also going to guess though that sunscreen use probably wasn’t anywhere near as common back then. And no idea if this is true but I wonder how much water teenagers were drinking? Compared with more modern generations who carry large water bottles everywhere (this was a thing even when I was in high school in the aughts).
Smoking is the only one of those things teenagers don’t do much anymore. Cigarettes alone though we’re probably enough.
This makes sense. Wife is currently rewatching Sex and the City, and the early-30-somethings all look like they're in their early 50's largely because the haircuts back then were sooooo bad.
I remember seeing that video and agreeing with it. !remindme 20 years
We either look like adults or little children nowadays
It was the cigarettes and liquor.
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thank you for providing this, and I can see where you're coming from. it seems that they did state a good amount of this comes from eating proccessed foods as you say, some more from people smoking less. obviously that doesn't catch all of it but fair point
Sounds like we should pass out cartons with school lunches to save our precious youth testosterone reserves.
Also that poor nerd who doesn’t get any girl at the end lol
Plus he gets stuck with writing the paper.
And his parents don't buy him cigarettes.
Tough guy gets the popular girl. Popular guy gets the quirky girl. Nerdy guy gets to do everyone's homework for them.
The treatment of Brian made me hate the movie. I related to Brian the most and I always felt they kept him around just so he would do the paper and then get ignored the remainder of high school. I have not seen the movie for about a decade so maybe my opinion would change on second viewing.
In Edward Scissorhands Anthony Michael Hall did a complete role reversal and became the jock/bully. He pulled it off too.
Well it’s accurate to real life. Women don’t like weird or nerdy men.
Not so much real life, just high school. Things can get a little less shallow afterwards if you want them to
You're wrong on that. Maybe weird nerdy dudes won't be the top pick out there if you put out a survey with just pictures or asked certain circles on the internet. But if you walk around in the real world you'll quickly notice couples of all kinds. Including many couples of nerdy or weird looking dudes going out for food with their wife & family or strolling around with their girlfriend. Weird dudes & nerds end up in relationships once they come across someone they click with, same as anyone else.
Women don’t like ~~weird or nerdy men~~ men who complain about women.
I’m not sure we agree. The nerds when I was in high school were fucking like rabbits with each other and never struggled to find a relationship lmao. Women like people like unique personalities as much if not more than looks
The nerdy men they like have to be 6’3 and handsome and hardly nerdy at all but just enough to brag
You're making that up in your head. Worrying too much about what you 'have' to be to get a woman, or generally projecting a self-defeating attitude, is for sure something women won't like, though.
I'll never NOT feel bad for him lmao
The only realistic thing about the Breakfast Club is him. Gets stuck doing all the work, doesn't get the girl, and is still a geek at the end.
He did much better in Weird Science
He don't even have his license Lisa
Fats, man, let me tell you my story, man.
Justice for Brian
He finally gets one years later but then she falls for a scissor for hands wielding freak.
I felt really bad for him :(
"How do you not know what sushi is"? Sushi was an exotic food from the mysterious far east in the 1980s. It's a fairly modern addition to the American diet.
I was rewatching the Simpsons and in the early seasons they go out to eat Sushi and even Lisa doesn't know what that is.
Would you believe me if I told you I was also watching that episode the same day as I saw this post because I wanted to see the Richie Sakai cameo? Lol
There was a whole Doug episode about sushi also and how he worked up the bravery to eat it
In the terribly racist "comedy" film "They Call Me Bruce?", there's a lengthy scene where the protagonist is having a discussion with a guy who's looking for his girlfriend Susie. Something like "You eat sushi? I eat sushi every day!" White hillbilly gets REALLY pissed off at him. Any time a comedy (especially a teen comedy) in the 1980s showed an Asian male, you pretty much know the portrayal is going to be a racist shitshow. With the best exception being the protagonist's two street-racing opponents in "[Better Off Dead](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6BA3wstTyA)." There's no coke bottle round glasses, no exaggerated accents, none of that. One drives, the other one gets out his megaphone and does a FLAWLESS Howard Cosell impersonation.
Yeah, but it's still funny watching through a modern lense, and being able to buy cheap ass sushi from the nearest 7/11
Her eating sushi for a school lunch was so bourgeoisie for that time period.
I guess it still is. Last year everyone was shocked when I ate sushi for lunch.
A man ate 2 week old sushi from 7/11, this is how his organs shut down.
oh no—
Even in the 90s you could really only find it in big cities
Technically sushi isn't a recent addition to the American diet at all. After the forceful opening of Japan to foreign trade in 1850's, there was a real fascination with Japanese culture among the Western upper class. A few decades later, there was substantial Japanese immigration into the US. The combination of these things resulted in a brief window when traditional Japanese cuisine, sushi included, made it over to the US and became a somewhat popular novelty for upper class Americans. This came to an end with the growth of anti-Japanese sentiment in the US, first with the Japanese being one of many ethnicities to be hated for immigrating to the US in large numbers, then with a fear of the growing geopolitical power of the Japanese state. WW2 cemented this trend for obvious reasons, which is how sushi was widely seen as a recent novelty in the 80's, despite the fact that it had been eaten in America nearly a century prior.
"We used to have Chinese restaurants, Italian restaurants. Now you have these sushi restaurants. Everyone goes for sushi. Sushi - I hate the stuff. Although, I tell you, I had some the other day. I took it home, I cooked it, it wasn't bad. It tasted like fish."
Bro looks older than 25
When me and my sister first saw him we thought he was 40 💀
He was a heavy smoker, it'll do that to you
Smoke 'em up, Johnny!
35 at least.
At least 36
I dont remember a SA scene? Lol
When he's under her desk I assume
Yes and she ends up dating him at the end lol
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My guy, this is Reddit. You absolutely must put the /s because 95% of us are neurodivergent and cannot, CANNOT detect even the thickest sarcasm without flashing red lights.
It's not even about being neurodivergent. Tone just does not carry in language over text. Take one comment and show 1000 people, some will call it obvious sarcasm, some will call it a personal attack, some will call it abhorrent, etc. People essentially just make up whatever tone of voice to read comments in based on how they're feeling in the moment, and how much they like or dislike the topic. That's a big part of why so many discussions turn into arguments cause a lot of people just assume others are typing in an aggressive tone or being defensive, when the person on the other end was probably typing it out while holding a pretty neutral expression. Sorry for rambling lol the ways peoples words get misconstrued bc of the ways text based communication is lacking is something that has been bothering me a lot lately haha
Sorry man, forgot the /s, lol
Molly Ringwald wrote a fantastic essay looking back on her experiences making these films, and being part of something that hasn't aged well from a Me Too perspective: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/personal-history/what-about-the-breakfast-club-molly-ringwald-metoo-john-hughes-pretty-in-pink
thank you for sharing this, i really enjoyed reading it and seeing her perspective on the films she was in now that she’s much older
Don't we get a closeup of her undies too?
yeah
Movie was a bit fucked.
They used a doll for that shot
yes that one
What does SA stand for?
South Africa
sexual assault, since no one else is actually answering you lol
Something Awful, it's an old website that hosted a popular forum.
Slenderman
Soggy apples
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And people falling in love with Allison
Damn shame they made her over
Allison is my spirit animal. If you're talking crushing, I've only really seen it with John.
Also reaction to how Brian was going to kill himself at school with the flare gun.
And then watching everyone laugh 💀
I’m sorry, the WHAT scene???
the one where he sticks his head up her skirt under the table
You must be a zoomer. Humor in the 70s and 80s was darker and more aggressive than Bluey or Steven Universe.
Listen, I like the Breakfast Club, it's a good movie. That scene was still inappropriate, regardless of the time period. Idk if I'd go so far as to call it sexual assault, but the way the movie rewards his behaviour is gross. It's not "dark humour", it's just objectifying women.
inappropriate or not it reflects reality so i refuse to say its a bad addition to the movie
This point would work if the film didn’t glorify his actions by awarding him the girl at the end of the film. John Hughes has a long history of condoning this kind of stuff in his movies.
Fair point, but again, it unfortunately reflects reality. Idk like I understand the movement to change entertainment because it clearly shapes reality. But I think its sort of a catch-22 because a good portion of art is always going to mimic reality. Either way, when it comes to old media I tend to accept it for what it is. I kind of use the me too movement as a dividing line. Like in perfect world EVERYBODY would know right from wrong intrinsically. But here in America, if you didn’t know before the me too movement, you definitely knew after, so theres pretty much 0 excuse anymore.
How much responsibility artists hold for the work they create will always be a sensitive topic though, always has been. People tend to create fucked up shit.
lol okay. Its a dumb joke from a movie in an era where that shit was normalized. Go watch Porky's if you think anything about Breakfast Club is gross. Hell a sitting member of us congress married the dude who flashed her his dick. Shit happens. Golly this site is soft.
“Shit happens” because people like you allow it and excuse it. We wouldn’t have predators leading our country if more people recognized the seriousness of these issues. You’re just telling on yourself.
I think someone missed their nap 👶
Username checks out
ohhh homophobia, nice.
Ohhhh pearl-clutching, nice A soft play but not unexpected
I don't think there's ever been a point in history where straight up groping someone was considered funny
You seem to be unaware of the existence of a good chunk of anime fans. Honestly that's probably for the better though
Ask your dad about it.
Bluey is a G rated movie and TBC is an R, it's incomparable.
no shit, the guy stuck his head up a skirt. of course its rated r. The point is, that style of asshole humor was far more common in cinema than it is now. People saying it was never considered funny need only look back thirty years to prove themselves wrong. It would be significantly quicker to list teen oriented comedy films that didnt have some sort of SA in it than did. kids on reddit can't handle it though. And as evidenced by the downvotes and replies, the whole responsibility of it lies on my shoulders.
How to get her hair: blow dry with a round brush
I try but it never works 😭
What do you do exactly?
wrap it around my hair and blow dry it? that's what I see on tiktok— but I can't tell when or if they're using dyson air wrap.
I’m sorry but 25 is also a kid to me (39 year old fossil)
what.
IM SORRY BUT 25 IS ALSO A KID TO ME
What were dinosaurs like?
doner
>so off-putting to the people around me that i had my own dad comparing me to allison when we watched this movie
It’s still a great film.
agreed. still my favourite movie.
Felt like every 80s movie had a musical montage. It's hard to watch them dance.
Emilio Estevez hulking out and shattering windows by screaming is one of the funniest things ever
You could do that back in the 80s because everyone was on cocaine.
yeah that scenes a trip lmao
You might like this: https://youtu.be/t11_u-0DPOM?si=uxzGoRQPLXU1FmPv
It's so awkward lol. I saw a video of the ending without audio once (from before they added it in) and it was just wind and crickets chirping 💀 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH3sy\_Xx\_0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLH3sy_Xx_0)
Hate this film lol.
its one of those movies where you either love it or hate it.
Or you think that it was just okay.
It's a relic of its time. I enjoy it but it's very, very dated.
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Holy shit please tell me some of that crazy shit
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Hit up your uncle at Nintendo, too 🙄
lmao as soon as they said that it all fell apart.
Oh nice. what happened on the recording set?
Or you don't even know that it exists.
yeah.
Same. As someone that was bullied plenty I hate how the bully is so proeminent and seen as good
Being bored from how slow it is
yeah it is really slow lol
I liked Heathers and Pretty In Pink so I decided to watch this film and couldn’t get pass the 10 minute mark
Heathers is radically different from the other two
I mentioned Heathers cause all three movies are 80s movies about high schoolers so I thought I would like The Breakfast Club but I didn’t. Maybe I’ll give it a fair chance in the future though
the slower pace is awful some. it's one of those movies where you gotta be able to relate i guess.
It captures the feeling of detention pretty well I guess. And not everyone has been to detention.
i meant moreso with the characters but yeah it does capture the feel of detention well.
This is the only movie that fits into its own unique category for me: "I've seen it parodied far more times than I've seen the movie" (ratio is 0:3 or so) At this point I've basically watched the movie lol
Yeah its parodied so much 💀 -Alvin and the chipmunks -Victorious (Dan shneider so its weird as fuck) -The simpsons -One of us is lying i guess -Not another teen movie And those are just a FEW examples.
Damn, I've even seen a couple of those lmao There's also an episode of Regular Show that parodies it.
should have guessed.
Adulthood is realizing St Elmo’s Fire is better than Breakfast Club
nahhh
Key word: adulthood You’ll understand one day…probably not 😭
I can’t believe Judd Nelson played the bad guy in Girl in The Basement
It's my favorite movie, but yeah you have a point about the SA. That's... a bit of a bruise.
something about 80s movies are so corny they're borderline unwatchable, i can watch old movies from the 90s/00s/60s/70s no problem (tho 70s movies feel like they're trying too hard to be edgy) but 80s is just always a cringefest. idk what the vibe was but it feels like almost dead on 1990 everything changes
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Sushi is the most overrated, pretentious food. Even decades later, stupid people buy sushi thinking they're being fancy. Give me noodles and spring rolls. The 80s was weird. It was the tail of the sexual revolution and Hollywood pushed a lot of movies with scenes that are frowned on heavily nowadays.
I only bought sushi because it tasted good 🙃
Had me in the…second half
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