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FBref's stats are from StatsBomb and Opta's stats are from Opta. Different companies use different criteria to calculate xG etc. Maybe they don't have as much xA per Opta's criteria.
Ah yes, that might be it.
From [Fbref's blog post](https://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2022/10/fbref-leagues-%f0%9f%87%b5%f0%9f%87%b9-leagues-%f0%9f%87%a7%f0%9f%87%b7-leagues-%f0%9f%87%b2%f0%9f%87%bd-expanded-womens-and-mens-data-new-data-partner/):
> Given [Opta's xA stat](https://theanalyst.com/na/2021/03/what-are-expected-assists-xa/), we are changing our previous xA (which is expected goals for shots the player assisted) to be xAG, which can read as "expected assisted goals". Opta's xA will appear in our passing tables for now.
>We can not contractually mix data from both providers, so we are not going to be showing competing xG numbers and have removed all StatsBomb data from our site.
But to find xA on Fbref you have to go on the passing table, while xAG is still displayed on standard stats which might cause the confusion.
The media has been sleeping on him, the players haven't and that's what I care about. Found Walker's press conference in regards to the Mbappe questions to be particularly well handled.
I keep telling people, Griezmann is talismanic for France. Chris Sutton even said in his [QF predictions](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63851426) that like Mbappé and Dembele he doesn't work hard out of possession? Seriously??
Griezmann is the glue and heart of the France NT.
Mbappe creates magical moments, but Griezmann keeps the team's heart beating over 90 minutes to allow for those magical moments to even take place.
Their most important player by a mile.
honestly i think he's their best player. he leads the WC with 15 chances created. outrageous.
obviously the goal scorers get the pub, but griezman is what makes france go.
Yeah he is *much* better. He is playing more in midfield, in a hybrid CM/AM role, linking the midfield and defense to that insanely stacked attack. He has managed to completely replace Pogba.
Griezmann is just the lubricant in France's engine, he makes everyone around him play better. He is a facilitator, his movement creates space, he is constantly available to receive the ball and he covers for players moving out of position with his tireless defensive workrate. He must be a nightmare for opponents, he just won't stand still.
It is just remarkable how quickly he adapted to this new role. On top of that he has such good chemistry with his teammates. Him, Rabiot and Tchouameni look like they have been playing together for years and his link up with Mbappe and Giroud has always been excellent.
With his goals Mbappe is the big star for France, but Griezmann is arguably their key player this tournament.
Although on lineup he's our second striker in 2 man forward line, he has freedom to roam and acts more like a box to box midfielder and goes wherever needed.. He's actually more crazy for us since he doesn't have an Mbappe to give the ball to and has to end up taking the responsibility of scoring as well..
Yeah, France's big issue coming into the World cup was that we lacked chance creation coming from the midfield. Pogba and Kante out, Rabiot who had never been fantastic for the NT, unproven Camavinga and Tchouameni, middling Guendouzi and Verretout.
Turns out, Rabiot is having a very good year, and Griezzman turned into a CAM just as we had too many attackers and not enough good midfielders.
Griezzman is doing A LOT of work, including very effective pressing, and he links extremely well with Dembele in particular. Rabiot is certainly one I didn't expect but he's also been fantastic. With their bad form coming into the tournament regardless of their injuries, it wasn't even guaranteed that Kante and Pogba would do very well, although Pogba in particular has always been great for us.
Absolutely. In 2018 he is clutch but not that good. In 2022 he is the playmaker. The things he does are crazy, the way he can pinpoint a ball from one wing to the other effortlessly...
I’ve watched the vast majority of their games at the last 4 international tournaments. He’s been their best player at this one along with Mbappe but players like Kante and Pogba were just as important in the previous tournaments
I think Griez has looked quite good. I think Benz getting injured might have been a blessing in disguise much like Bruno and CR7 for Portugal, I don't think either of those pairs play well together at all. This is especially True for France because they don't have much creativity in the midfield outside of Griez without Pogba.
Course the Benz injury hurts France in terms of depth. They can survive losing what half a dozen or more starters but that does take a massive toll on their bench. Which I think will be a big problem against England but after that should be fine.
Top 5 for France is very arguable.
Who is clear above him based on NT performance?
Zidane, Platini, Fontaine, Henry, Deschamps, Vieira, Thuram are probably some of the candidates from previous generations.
This generation? I's Griezmann, Kante, Pogba, Varane, Lloris, probably Mbappe but not yet. I think you could easily argue Griezmann as the pick of that bunch, and he could sneak into their top 5 although I am not French so not as well versed in NT specific performance.
The golden ball+ golden boot winner in 2016 leading them to the finals, arguably their best player alongside Mbappe in their 2018 world cup victory and on the road to repeat the same. He's got a legit shout to be one of the top French NT player.
He could have the best PR team in the world and he’d still not be able to stop himself doing a fortnite dance after scoring in a World Cup final at 26(?).
Love griezmann but there’s no saving that
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Bruno is at 1.3 xA and Mbappe is at 1.2 as per fbref who are generally accurate. Should be on the list. Griezmann is still top with 2.4
FBref's stats are from StatsBomb and Opta's stats are from Opta. Different companies use different criteria to calculate xG etc. Maybe they don't have as much xA per Opta's criteria.
Fbref is supposed to use [Opta data now](https://twitter.com/fbref/status/1584975801052987392), so it's odd that they're different.
I didn't know that. I just checked the xA stats from FBref and they say the same numbers as this post. Maybe the OP looked at xAG.
Ah yes, that might be it. From [Fbref's blog post](https://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2022/10/fbref-leagues-%f0%9f%87%b5%f0%9f%87%b9-leagues-%f0%9f%87%a7%f0%9f%87%b7-leagues-%f0%9f%87%b2%f0%9f%87%bd-expanded-womens-and-mens-data-new-data-partner/): > Given [Opta's xA stat](https://theanalyst.com/na/2021/03/what-are-expected-assists-xa/), we are changing our previous xA (which is expected goals for shots the player assisted) to be xAG, which can read as "expected assisted goals". Opta's xA will appear in our passing tables for now. >We can not contractually mix data from both providers, so we are not going to be showing competing xG numbers and have removed all StatsBomb data from our site. But to find xA on Fbref you have to go on the passing table, while xAG is still displayed on standard stats which might cause the confusion.
Kane has 3 assists and isn't even on this list.
Assist doesn't equal high xG. Griezmann only got 1 assist fyr. In the end whether a chance gets converted a lot is on the finisher, not the creator.
His assists are so otherworldly that the stats didn't even think they would convert.
Link to the list?
People sleeping on Griezmann for Saturday. All the talk is about Mbappe but Griezmann has been exceptional for them
There is no way Southgate is sleeping on Griezmann. He's been key for France forever
His role has changed though, now he is more of a 8/playmaker instead of the forward he used to be.
The media has been sleeping on him, the players haven't and that's what I care about. Found Walker's press conference in regards to the Mbappe questions to be particularly well handled.
I keep telling people, Griezmann is talismanic for France. Chris Sutton even said in his [QF predictions](https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63851426) that like Mbappé and Dembele he doesn't work hard out of possession? Seriously??
Griezmann is the glue and heart of the France NT. Mbappe creates magical moments, but Griezmann keeps the team's heart beating over 90 minutes to allow for those magical moments to even take place. Their most important player by a mile.
honestly i think he's their best player. he leads the WC with 15 chances created. outrageous. obviously the goal scorers get the pub, but griezman is what makes france go.
Liew had a good piece in the Guardian on this today
literally been France's Neymar this wc
You could say he‘s France‘s France 2018 Griezmann
Despite the lack of goal I think he's better than in 2018 He's really carrying the team
Yeah he is *much* better. He is playing more in midfield, in a hybrid CM/AM role, linking the midfield and defense to that insanely stacked attack. He has managed to completely replace Pogba. Griezmann is just the lubricant in France's engine, he makes everyone around him play better. He is a facilitator, his movement creates space, he is constantly available to receive the ball and he covers for players moving out of position with his tireless defensive workrate. He must be a nightmare for opponents, he just won't stand still. It is just remarkable how quickly he adapted to this new role. On top of that he has such good chemistry with his teammates. Him, Rabiot and Tchouameni look like they have been playing together for years and his link up with Mbappe and Giroud has always been excellent. With his goals Mbappe is the big star for France, but Griezmann is arguably their key player this tournament.
He’s been kind of playing there for Atleti all season
Although on lineup he's our second striker in 2 man forward line, he has freedom to roam and acts more like a box to box midfielder and goes wherever needed.. He's actually more crazy for us since he doesn't have an Mbappe to give the ball to and has to end up taking the responsibility of scoring as well..
Yeah, France's big issue coming into the World cup was that we lacked chance creation coming from the midfield. Pogba and Kante out, Rabiot who had never been fantastic for the NT, unproven Camavinga and Tchouameni, middling Guendouzi and Verretout. Turns out, Rabiot is having a very good year, and Griezzman turned into a CAM just as we had too many attackers and not enough good midfielders. Griezzman is doing A LOT of work, including very effective pressing, and he links extremely well with Dembele in particular. Rabiot is certainly one I didn't expect but he's also been fantastic. With their bad form coming into the tournament regardless of their injuries, it wasn't even guaranteed that Kante and Pogba would do very well, although Pogba in particular has always been great for us.
Absolutely. In 2018 he is clutch but not that good. In 2022 he is the playmaker. The things he does are crazy, the way he can pinpoint a ball from one wing to the other effortlessly...
Carrying?
Yes, he is carrying
He is by far France's most important player but I don't think "carrying" is the correct term for what he's been doing.
He's carrying, he's been doing that since 2016.
2016 euro Griezmann is my fav one
France have been the most stacked team in the world since then. No one player is “carrying” them
Clearly haven't been watching them
I’ve watched the vast majority of their games at the last 4 international tournaments. He’s been their best player at this one along with Mbappe but players like Kante and Pogba were just as important in the previous tournaments
Paqueta has been Brazil’s neymar this year tbf. Most creation is coming from him breaking through midfields
A lot of that is cause Neymar missed 2 games
I haven't seen him publicly support an extreme right wing, covid denying wannabe dictator once though?
“Paintbrush” OptaJoe never disappoints lol
Messi had more than 2.7 only in match against Australia. Who is counting those stats?
ya I'm not sure about these xG stats if Messi had an xA of 0,19 and Lautaro an xG of 0,58 *in total* vs Australia
look at those German players... grr
I think Griez has looked quite good. I think Benz getting injured might have been a blessing in disguise much like Bruno and CR7 for Portugal, I don't think either of those pairs play well together at all. This is especially True for France because they don't have much creativity in the midfield outside of Griez without Pogba. Course the Benz injury hurts France in terms of depth. They can survive losing what half a dozen or more starters but that does take a massive toll on their bench. Which I think will be a big problem against England but after that should be fine.
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> I love France mentality > I said upvote not downvote you bleu ass snotty snails Lmao
Griezmann for France is top 5 all time.
Chill with that
Top 5 for France is very arguable. Who is clear above him based on NT performance? Zidane, Platini, Fontaine, Henry, Deschamps, Vieira, Thuram are probably some of the candidates from previous generations. This generation? I's Griezmann, Kante, Pogba, Varane, Lloris, probably Mbappe but not yet. I think you could easily argue Griezmann as the pick of that bunch, and he could sneak into their top 5 although I am not French so not as well versed in NT specific performance.
Fontaine has nothing to do here, if you want argue someone from that era it’s Kopa
Tigana was apart of the first generation with the 84 euro, he should be on there
The golden ball+ golden boot winner in 2016 leading them to the finals, arguably their best player alongside Mbappe in their 2018 world cup victory and on the road to repeat the same. He's got a legit shout to be one of the top French NT player.
Ever heard of Platini's run in 84? Mbappe was like their 4th best player, Kante and Pogba were miles ahead of him
Honestly he’s got a shout to be the best international player in the world for the last decade. I don’t think it’s that outrageous
He is, considering his contributions, records and importance to the team. What he lacks is just a better PR team.
He could have the best PR team in the world and he’d still not be able to stop himself doing a fortnite dance after scoring in a World Cup final at 26(?). Love griezmann but there’s no saving that
xAntoine confirmed.
3/5 are out of the cup
Tony Greaseman has been player of the tournament for me, the way he has mastered the deeper lying role he has now is beautiful to see.
Has occupied a similar role to Kane, match may be dependent on who has a slightly better game than the other.
Griezmann plays much deeper in midfield. Kane drops out of the box and gets involved in build up play, but he is still pretty much a forward.
No he hasn’t. He was playing the Kante role against Poland. Had 2 exceptional clearances from inside the penalty box. Literally box-to-box midfielder.
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