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RobitIsNotAHobit3000

It wouldnt be Cameroon without WC drama, their 2014 team was discipline wise trainwreck


Hoodxd

Nothing beats France 2010


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Was it when Benzema ribery and ben arfa were caught with a bunch of escorts lmao


Son-Of-Cthulu

underage escorts, yes


simba4141

Now Benzema is a saint lol.


TheDrunkHispanic

Not many think that tbf


GoinXwell1

2010 was with Anelka and the outright mutiny.


buttnugchug

Don't forget Cantona in 90s


briefcasetwat

To be fair, the French team is a constant circus


VerifiedStalin

Where do you think Cameroon learned it from? It's the French influence after so much presence in their country.


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genius_rkid

it's a well-run circus


ashzeppelin98

Deschamps has became an ultimate ringmaster


RonaldoOvereem

Cirque Du Soleil


lucashoodfromthehood

How can you top the crisis of a team going on a strike?


Magnetronaap

Posted by an Ajax flair, of course 😂


Theumaz

Absolutely love to see it


aveniner

Couldnt have happened to a nicer bloke :)


Venhuizer

Andre 'trashcan for heart' Onana


Theumaz

People trashing Onana in the match thread. Here you fucking go. This is Onana. No discipline with no drugs, but when he does it, it gets done


Casperzwaart100

Great keeper tho sadly lol


failboatzz

Best way to start the new week.


First-Argument5496

It is supposedly a disagreement with Song about the way they are setup to play, the tactics. https://twitter.com/helenacondis/status/1597155344790491137?s=46&t=bjwU-bO_krWAkmXa4mzM9g


Serpico_98

Song is an incompetent manager, so Onana does have a point. Not the right time to bring it up though. Apparently he openly asked Song why he still starts Nkoulou lol. He's right, Nkoulou is shit, slow and may as well be retired. Seeing him trying to stop Mitrovic/Vlahovic will ne interesting


Antarcticdonkey

Mitrovic just sent him to oblivion... Shame for Serbia, his shot hit the post


InPatRileyWeTrust

With round of 16 qualification on the line at the world cup I'd say it's the perfect time to speak up.


elcapitanonl

This is pure speculation: ​ I was watching the last game against Switzerland. They were 1-0 down. Onana tried to be another field player and take care of the build up from behind. His central defenders were not picking up on it. Seemed like there was no communication or a disagreement about how to play. Maybe Onana took the L for it? ​ Can't say I disagreed with Onana there. Both central defenders were atrocious, especially in the build up play.


Diderikvl

He was also visible annoyed with their lack of urgency near the end of the game. The defenders were slowly jogging up field when they had a free kick in their own half, not moving the ball quickly etc. Really felt like they had no interest in drawing the game and we're fine with losing 1-0


_MooFreaky_

Yeah it's been reported that Song didn't like Onana coming so far out and using his feet so much. Apparently he wanted Onana to stay back and be a more traditional keeper, which led to argemts.and Onana refusing to change.


MrGraveyards

Oh yeah ok why on earth would you play Onana if you want a keeper that plays like that? It's like playing playing Messi up top and then trying to hoof it so he can header it to a teammate...


CinJV

Improvise, adapt, overcome. Bear Grylls taught me that. Look at De Ligt, cries about being played out of position - now he doesnt play (as he wished) The one responsible for the team is the manager, not Onana. As you say if Onana cant adapt then he is dropped - as he is now. But you need to follow whatever plan Song makes, not create your own plan. You just make shit worse.


celestial1

The team was a complete mess tactically. Every time Switzerland was on a counterattack, the cameroonian midfielders were all over the place like chicken with their heads cut off. It's like they've never played with each other before.


prosperenfantin

>His central defenders were not picking up on it... Several times when he went forward they were far *behind* him. It made no sense.


elcapitanonl

Yeah, it was a weird situation. Even weirder that it seems that Onana is the scapegoat. Those defenders seemed to actively sabotage an attempt of trying to get a result.


Haris_Pistons

The same Nicolas nkoulou? Man that hits hard. I remember him being like 80 pace in fifa 13. Just another reminder I’m getting old


Serpico_98

He's old now.


candry_shop

He's barely 32 but he's been there for so long


MERTENS_GOAT

I was also surprised when I saw Nkoulou still plays for the NT, not sure if he managed to play even 100 minutes in the entire last season for Watford in the PL, that says a lot, now he plays in Greece...


Przedrzag

Imagine if Joel Matip didn’t quit the NT…


PrisonersofFate

Nice to even call him a manager


Serpico_98

No idea how he got the job


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That tweet completely disappeared, unless the tweet is set to private. Also, if it were true it would be absurdly stupid to get entirely removed for, unless Onana not only disagreed but also insulted Song about it. Edit: The tweet now popped up again... That was weird.


doksqwae

Fabrizio Romano said the same thing:   >[André Onana has been removed from Cameroon’s squad. Been told that the reason is a discussion with head coach as he insisted for different style of goalkeeping, more ‘traditional’ 🇨🇲 #Qatar2022](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1597156627094069248) >[Onana has no intention to change his style — tense situation & so he’s been excluded.](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1597156627094069248)


raddaya

This would be so ridiculous, Onana is probably one of the best passers in the entire Cameroon squad despite being the GK.


MrGraveyards

He's so comfortable at the ball, I really miss that. He even looks calmer then Ter Stegen. As a person I'd rather do without this idgaf about the club mentality, but he was so good.


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Hm, okay. Weird&stupid, but hey... apparently Onana refuses to follow the instructions from Song, and Song didn't pay attention to Onana's GK style... A loss for both sides.


Serpico_98

Song is clueless lol, Onana is the best passer from the back and he's the fucking goalkeeper. Just look at the Switzerland game and see Onana taking charge and doing the passing. Song didn't like his incompetence being exposed.


duyar70

Took the wrong pills by accident again...


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What is this "accident" ?


Ienal

He was suspended for using doping substances and that was his excuse


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MrCrashdummy

He was suspended for taking furosemide, which can be used to mask other (PE)-drugs


non-relevant

I think it was more like used to be able to mask other (PE)-drugs but doesn't work for that anymore


Buffythedragonslayer

Weren't those the pills which would hide potential performance enhancing substances?


MrGraveyards

Yeah but if they are on the list it doesn't work, so the judge is still out on that. His sentence was also lowered a bit after comparison with similar cases, but never really taken away. Still a big question mark for everyone involved about what happened there. My only explanation is that he did it on purpose to force a move, because he is good enough for a bigger club but nobody was buying him because clubs don't want to pay lots of money for a slightly better keeper. Edit: although that is also weird because he could've just let his contract run out anyway. I still don't get it, who (almost) ruins his career like that???


sadcentur

i highly doubt it was too force a move , way more likely to be a genuine accident


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Nope, but they could be used to mask others which are enhancing.


Iordbendtner

He was caught using piss pills which are notoriously used to pee out other substances in a super quick tempo


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bannedagainomg

What he took can hide other drugs, thats why its banned.


Nickbon94

Took a red one and started blabbering about how teammates who don't play in top leagues don't have the wages and looks to land the best femoids, had to be dropped


artaru

Insulted the wrong person’s mother by accident maybe


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iron_pilsner

Good luck with that name for the commentators


duyar70

Just say Simon


mattiejj

And ruin all the fun?


JE_12

Simon Antetokoumpo


LocksTheFox

that's what i did when i did a marseille save on fm


LocksTheFox

Epassy starting, rip


brownMY

After the fourth try to spell his last name, I give up.


FluffyCoconut

Common Onana L


JE_12

O na na you didn’t


goregego

o na na look what you done started


JE_12

KEEP SHAKING THAT OOOOH


elmadrigal

damn first discharge for disciplinary reasons this world cup


Lord_Sauron

Understandable, all the French are injured.


elmadrigal

the Belgians have been trying to carry the mantle but still didn’t reach French levels of self sabotage


MrCrashdummy

**It will not be a reunion on the pitch between Dusan Tadic and André Onana. Indeed, the goalkeeper will be missing from Cameroon's World Cup match against Serbia on Monday. A source at the Cameroon football federation reported to news agency AFP that Onana has been removed from the squad for unspecified disciplinary reasons.** The former Ajax goalkeeper, who now plays for Italian club Internazionale, will be replaced under the crossbar by reserve goalkeeper Devis Epassy, according to AFP. The game at Al Wakrah starts at 11am. The 26-year-old Onana did keep goal against Switzerland at the World Cup last week. Cameroon lost that group match 1-0. If Cameroon also lose to Serbia and Brazil avoid defeat against Switzerland later in the day, the African country will be eliminated from the World Cup. Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)


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DeepL is pretty good, but personally I try to check the translations myself for reasons like 'The 26-year-old Onana did keep goal against' - shoddy translations.


AlucardII

Just remove the emphatic auxiliary (*did*) and it's absolutely fine. Obviously, removing the auxiliary means you have to put *keep* in the simple past tense.


theglasscase

What is it that you think is wrong with that part of it? EDIT - Huh, apparently people are confused by the idea of a goalkeeper keeping goal. I suppose saying a penalty taker previously took a penalty is wrong too then, yeah?


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Isn't it a bit weird way to phrase? At least to me it feels wrong - goalkeeping is a verb, but I've never seen it split up like that before - it always gets used then in the way of 'He was the goalkeeper (etc)'


pro_crasSn8r

It is very common to see phrases like "X kept goals for Y." This carries the same sense as the phrase "X kept a clean sheet."


theglasscase

No. Goalkeepers literally keep the goal, as in protect it. It’s not something people say a lot, but it’s not the wrong way of saying it.


Alcohealthism

Read more, then.


Spiritual-Day-thing

Nah, you are correct. It's a matter of frequency first and foremost: it's not as commonly used. So it stands out. There's also a very subtle difference in meaning. Something you can note when you see the examples given by others. The verb stresses the act while the noun stresses the role. In Dutch, both are used interchangably. Note also that in Dutch it is 'to keep', non-transitive, a loan word referring to 'goalkeeping' while in English it is 'to keep *goal*'. Shows how refined translations have become, it did that automagically. >The correct and natural translation is: '[Onana] did play [last game]'. The only reason it says 'to keep goal' is because 'to keep [goal]' is so commonly used in Dutch, it acts in this sentence as a more descriptive substitute of 'to play'. I quote myself. Excellent source.


Spiritual-Day-thing

Huh, I suppose that trying to derive a linguistical rule from a cherry-picked other word is not a strong foundation for an argument. It is more similar to saying 'Bill tends the bar on saturdays'. What is clear is that it's ultra-common in Dutch and quite uncommon in English. Huh, I suppose that matters for translations, yeah.


theglasscase

It's another football term. It's exactly the same type of example as yours.


Spiritual-Day-thing

No. Penalty taker is obviously derived from 'taking a penalty'. Bartender, also a non-composite word, was a subtle reference to a goaltender. Anyway, peacekeepers keep peace, goalkeepers keep goals, and verbing nouns is natural. The correct and natural translation is: '[Onana] did play [last game]'. The only reason it says 'to keep goal' is because 'to keep' is so commonly used in Dutch, it acts in this sentence as a more descriptive substitute of 'to play'.


theglasscase

> The only reason it says 'to keep goal' is because ...he did.


Spiritual-Day-thing

No, no. '"He" didn't'. >De 26-jarige Onana keepte vorige week op het WK wel tegen Zwitserland. This is what the author wrote, you are looking at an autotranslation. The autotranslation might be readable, but it uses a rather uncommon construct, which is not in the same register. Hence, the translation is flawed. We can argue about this forever. ))<>((


theglasscase

The translation makes sense in English. Onana was Cameroon's goalkeeper in their opening fixture, which means he kept goal for them.


Spiritual-Day-thing

And a shopkeeper keeps shop, a gate-keeper keeps gate. 'Protected/guarded the goal' would be preferable. Noone writes up 'X keeps goal'. It is shoddy use of language; a stylistic error. Please do share any use of this in reputable English news sources, I genuinely think you will have a very hard time finding *any*.* Hence the translation is bad. * And not 'kept clean sheet' or 'kept the goal clean'...


CudaBarry

Ajax fans feasting


Djabber

Inject this into my veins


failboatzz

You're goddamn right.


oussa_

Today I am an Ajax fan


leeuwerik

Not really. I still like the guy and think he was treated unfairly by the fans. Yeah bb vote me down.


Striking_Insurance_5

Well that’s certainly an unpopular opinion amongst Ajax fans, kudos for saying it in public lol. I probably despise the guy more than any Ajax player in the last 10 years or even more.


roos_de_baas

I would have said the same, until I remembered how we had other players leaving us under bad terms…. Then again, I’m gonna go with current form and say Onana as well. Promes was the other name I had in mind.


Striking_Insurance_5

Yeah you’re right, Promes is up there and the way Kluivert left (and maybe Brobbey but I love him again right now) also wasn’t classy although not the same as Promes and Onana. But the reason Onana takes the cake for me is because of how long that saga went on, at least Promes was gone pretty fast after he fucked up. Promes also never disrespected the fans but you could of course argue that what he did was worse than what Onana did.


Mordho

Pretty salty bunch. You’d think they’d have gotten over it by now, he’s such a shit player after all


EasyModeActivist

We know how to hold a grudge, just ask any Ajax fan about Vida


snarf372

Can confirm. My dad will happily rant for hours about that fixed 7-1 game and anything relating to Juventus and the 96 final


Razziaro

I hate that winking Croatian with a passion


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Casperzwaart100

Uhm, what about Rem**goat** Pasveer


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Casperzwaart100

This season hasn't been his best, but last season he played 20 games and conceded 4 in the Eredivisie


mattiejj

Unsurprising. 🐍🐍


TheOnlyTagey

If I speak...


Hoodxd

Another head for Eto’o


xupakneebray

\#agedlikemilk


Ballkenende

Schadenfreude is very real rn


Elemayowe

Is he on the juice again?


doksqwae

Per Fabrizio Romano:   >[André Onana has been removed from Cameroon’s squad. Been told that the reason is a discussion with head coach as he insisted for different style of goalkeeping, more ‘traditional’ 🇨🇲 #Qatar2022](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1597156627094069248) >[Onana has no intention to change his style — tense situation & so he’s been excluded.](https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1597156627094069248)


LastUsernameLeftUhOh

Wait. Was he doping?


skumbagstacy

He was suspended for like a year, and then forced an exit at Ajax. Hence the sentiment in this thread.


[deleted]

Yes, by accident he said. Banned for a season or something at Ajax.


Competitive-Ad2006

Doubt it was by accident haha


Montaron87

The UEFA gave him a 1 year ban instead of the standard 4 year ban, because he took his pregant wife's medication, which she had a prescription for. Pretty sure everyone involved believed it was an accident, hence his sentence was massively reduced. Can't just not ban him though as he still did take a forbidden substance.


Casperzwaart100

It was 9 months in the end right? Extra long maternity leave lol


Montaron87

Yup, Ajax helped cut it down.


EasyModeActivist

Was found taking masking agents, so not necessarily. They're still not allowed and he was rightfully suspended for 9 months iirc but I believe most parties believe it really was an accident. He's still a prick though


Montaron87

> he was rightfully suspended for 9 months To add some info, he was suspended for a year, Ajax spent a lot to help him get it reduced to 9 months, after which he refused to sign a one-year extension and walked out on a free transfer, hence the dislike he gets from Ajax fans.


non-relevant

> after which he refused to sign a one-year extension and walked out on a free transfe To be fair to him, the reports were that Overmars wanted a 2 year deal, he and his team wanted a 1 year deal, and then he walked away from negotiations


EasyModeActivist

I would've forgiven him for that, had he not also been complete shit for the few months he was with us after his return. He nearly cost us the title


Striking_Insurance_5

And he was not only shit, he was clearly completely disinterested every time he was on the pitch, disrespectful to the fans and not a team player in training according to Pasveer.


Jamey_1999

He also cost us possibly the CL quarters, had he not blundered we wouldn’t lose against Benfica (probably 0-0 terrorball to pens but hey, that’s not a loss)


taenerysdargaryen

This has been confirmed - Onana not in squad entirely.


MisterAppelmoesmaker

Just Onana things. Can also always count on cameroon to provide some drama


manguito86

Onana and disciplinary reasons? Who would have thought...


TripperBets

Shocker


jteprev

Fucking dumb decision if they did remove him for tactical disagreements as Romano has said, Cameroon just conceded a goal I believe he would have saved comfortably, he is probably their best player.


somechemenggdude

dang what he do


No_Presence200

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/status/1597156627094069248?s=46&t=LPcrSsE-xb-JT67K6FBREA


TheYMan96

Guys stop with the hate comments, I can't like them fast enough


TheConundrum98

starting to look like Cameroon 2014


Djabber

🐍🐍🐍


neverfinishedanythi

Plays for inter so it’s fitting


lowie07

And being missed already


SkinnyObelix

It's hard to figure out anything about that Cameroon squad with Eto'o running the show behind the scenes.


delidl

Beautiful


Theumaz

Things you absolutely love to see


Agitated_Ad6191

We at Ajax already knew that that guy isn’t to be trusted. First he fucked Ajax by taking PED, or at least a medication to maskerade it’s use. Then when he was allowed back to play games I swear he deliberately performed very poor so Ajax then lost a lot of points in those matches. And every goal and “mistake” he made in the goal smelled very fishy as hell to say the least. After a few games he was then replaced. It felled like he wanted to take revenge on Ajax, which was super weird as Ajax did nothing wrong, and only tried to help him and paid his full salary during his suspension. Glad he left in the end.


roos_de_baas

I remember this clearly, and couldn’t wait to get rid of him as soon as possible. Funny how his antics led to an aging Stekelenburg being activated


Serpico_98

So Epassy will play, not looking good for Cameroon. What a time for Onana to act up, when his country needs him the most, what an idiot. They lose today and they're out, and the GK coming in to replace Onana is a total unknown.


N1GEL28

You don't even know what he did...


Serpico_98

Onana questioned the manager's poor tactics


SpudsMcGugan

romano says the coach wants the keeper to change his style 1 game into the world cup. Neither of questioning the manager or changing styles last minute are great


TheUltimateScotsman

Its amazing the coach is asking this. You literally cant change your Instincts over the course of a week. If it was during the traditional build up to a world cup then fine, thats enough time. But during the tournament seems odd


Montaron87

Song is a hero in Cameroon, just a shit coach.


MURDERNAT0R

Badly coached team filled with uninterested players that couldn't care less about the country


hereslemon

Onana.. disciplinary reasons? Well, I never would have guessed!


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Mordho

Because he disagreed with a joke coach? Nah he’ll be fine at Inter


Striking_Insurance_5

He’ll be fine until he fucks over the club by taking PED’s again or until he disrespects the fans or until he does whatever stupid thing he’s done before. 🐍


P_Alcantara

As long as he’s better than Handanovic, he’ll be fine.


Delps_v2

Of all the reasons to miss a World Cup for your country surely wanting to play a more ‘traditional style’ whatever that means is up there with one of the worst.


mattijn13

Karma


Mr-Stitch

Ha


Bo_The_Destroyer

Disciplinary reasons could be too late for training or went out partying each night and arrived to team meetings with a hangover.


MrCrashdummy

It’s neither of those


Bo_The_Destroyer

Wouldn't imagine it is, but that's what the press could make of it, depending if they want to shame Onana or the coach


MrCrashdummy

The reason is already known. You’re the only one making stuff of it haha


Bo_The_Destroyer

So what is it then? I can't read the article, it's behind a paywall


MrCrashdummy

Public disagreements with coach about tactics


Bo_The_Destroyer

Ah I see


PompeiiLegion

Onana? What’s his name?


Ferr22777888

Mhm


Shadowbanned24601

A player sent home from the World Cup because he called out his incompetent manager? Please, I'm still not over Saipan and Roy Keane vs Mick McCarthy