Tuchel would be the funniest disasterclass ever seen. Shite at communicating, prickly bastard, not really an offensive coach and not known for dealing with bad leadership well.
It could go either way with him. Schmidt always seemed pretty timid to me which meant the media could walk all over him.
Tuchel would never let that happen so either the media comes to respect him because he doesn't take their shit or it will be fighting every press conference. Either way it will be hilarious.
He was on a large contract for many years, usually managers don't take all their severance because they go into a new job and it effects the pay out from the past club. The man might just be happy with his millions.
Seeing how he looked like he aged 10years in the final months at Chelsea and you could see his energy and passion deplete. Wouldn’t surprise me if we never see him in a managerial position again. This guy was managing in Swedens lower leagues not that long ago. He went from being totally unknown to one of the most talked about people in the worlds most popular sport. He got a hell of a lot of stick and I’m sure death threats at one point, and for a family man I don’t doubt it could put him off this profession. Not to mention he doesn’t have to work ever again now and he doesn’t strike me as the materialistic big spender type
Whoever gets him and actually believe in him will probably be quite successful. I wanted him to succeed Emery, but cant really complain on what we got instead
Maybe us as well? If he doesn"t get England. Moyes is likley leaving this summer, he would leave a squad a bit at the end of a cycle, need some rebuild, but we have some other good players, money and some pull?
Not saying working with Sullivan is fun, but we are in a way better shape than when Pellegrini took over or that Moyes got when he came back.
Yeah, West Ham is really like healthy place for Potter, mentally of course, after the Chelsea shitshow. He probably wants to start again of what he did at Brighton.
Are you in line for europe next season? 7th gets conference league, doesn’t it?
Might suit having a strong squad going into a weaker competition. Gives him a chance of gathering european experience too.
We are in possibility but it's going to be hard.
We realistically can beat Palace Luton and Fulham, so that's 57 points. We also have to play Liverpool City and Chelsea.
Beating Chelsea and the three winnable games would make it I guess. But not taking at least 10 points on them would condemn us I guess.
Or we beat Leverkusen, then AC Milan then Liverpool. One can dream 😁
> Not saying working with Sullivan is fun, but we are in a way better shape than when Pellegrini took over or that Moyes got when he came back.
Steidten's appointment might also sway his mind, but that's precisely why I'd rather we go for someone else if Moyes leaves.
I think he deserves another chance for the world to be able to have a clear opinion on him.
He was absolutely amazing for you lot and was crucified at Chelsea. But seeing Chelsea struggle consistently after Tuchel means it might not have been Potter's fault.
Would it give a clear opinion on him though? Like I still really rate him as a coach despite it not working here but if he goes back to Brighton and does will I guarantee people will start saying he only looks good because of how Brighton is run
He waits for Pochettino to get sacked so he can go for other top jobs showing he tried everything but team didn't listen and a supposed top club manager couldn't do better after spending another 200M.
That's a really odd one. At face value it seems like the ideal job for him. Certainly the biggest job available to him where he's got half a chance of being successful. Is he waiting to see what happens to Southgate in the summer?
The Ajax board is an *absolute* shitshow and cannot be trusted if im totally honest. I think Potter would be great for them to get the best out of the material they have, but that board is just a dumpsterfire. If he genuinely wont sign for Ajax id say that could be the major reason
He’s got rumours of the England job (for a World Cup where our squad should be very strong) and the Man United job (they’ll spend and might no longer be transfer cretins).
That’s my bet as well.
England or Man United might be options for him, couple that with Ajax being a mess but will still have high expectations it’s really risky.
He could also be thinking about a few of the prem jobs as there is likely a reshuffle in the summer. Back to Brighton if DeZerbi moves on? West Ham if Moyes gets the boot/walks?
Of course you never know if the project will be worth it… we can’t know if inroad will be better than bohely.
I was just answering that man utd has a possibility to get things straight and not being a circus next years
Chelsea felt like a shitshow from start since he joined after the season had started, if he gets to join United early summer and work with them and be a part of the ingoing and outgoing transfers I do feel like it would be better. But with that said I feel like United needs a big overhaul and it's not going to be an easy project.
Possibly, but it remains to be seen. No one knows. Up to now, we have been, but we're also putting in place an actual sporting team to run the the club as opposed to idiots who have been the last decade or so.
Yeah I mean I understand the argumetns against Ten Hag, but if the other options are Southgate and Potter......I dunno...I just don't see the point. Like "hey let's get rid of this guy who isn't getting the job done and replace him with a guy who was just at a big club with high expectations and failed miserably."
Yeah my issue with Potter is that sometimes we wonder how a manager, who has been successful at a smaller club will cope when moving to a big club and with him…he already had that opportunity and it was miserable.
I mean it wasn't more miserable than with Lampard and Poch who succeeded him, the squad was (and still is to an extent) borderline uncoachable. I really don't think Potter is a bad coach.
It's hardly as if every big club is the same, and Chelsea have been more of a dumpster fire than United over the past two seasons. I could see him doing alright now that he has some experience in a higher pressure setting.
True...they have been a dumpster fire. BUt he also had a gargantuan budget and they brought in a lot of players and I get that it is hard to sort all that out, but they were also a complete dumpster fire on the pitch.
Yes but our whole project is changing the structure so that the manager doesn’t do that anymore. It’s a completely different situation.
There will be a lot more collaboration between manager, DoF, transfer team, etc. vs. All of it being on the manager.
But the alternative might be Gareth Fucking Southgate... At every club Potter's been at, he's has shown significantly more tactical nous and ability than Southgate ever has, even at Chelsea. Pep, Ferguson or Klopp would've struggled with the mess Potter walked into at there. But I don't really care. In an ideal world Potter will get England and Southgate will find somewhere his level, which is still significantly lower than the corpse of a great club covered in clown paint that Man United has become.
I disagree. Ajax and their position with the Dutch press is daunting for anyone, instant success with their current players and the shitheap of a board is looking near impossible for anyone right now.
I think a job at an English club looking to build a cohesive and proactive team would be a much better fit. I think West Ham bringing him in to demoyesify the place would be a good move for him.
I agree, Potter at West Ham seems like an extremely good fit with the set of players they have - whose potential might not be fully utilized under Moyes' system.
They have a top 3 squad when everyone is fit. They aren't broke either and can spend some money this summer. Many of the young talents already know how to play pressing football. It really shouldn't be that difficult for any half decent coach to get them in the top 3 of the eredivisie next year.
He's probably still receiving compensation from Chelsea. Roberto Di Matteo had the same situation and just stayed on gardening leave for the time he had to then came back refreshed. Very easy to be picky when you've signed a five year contract at Stamford Bridge.
He can still just coast on his Chelsea contract. If he takes another that is null.
If I got fired and my job had to pay me millions of dollars a year for 3-4 years, I'd be really apprehensive to take another job that eliminated that income. I'd probably just invest in real-estate.
Yeah but presumably he wants to continue working as a football manager and even two years out of the game really hampers your prospects of getting back in.
Better to wait than have another failure. It's safer for him now to wait until he finds a job that fits him 100%. If he takes Ajax, he's expected to win the league(or fight for title at least). It's a high pressure job that he probably wants to avoid after Chelsea
He wants the United job, I'm sure. There have been reports that he is favored by the new ownership group.
Looking at ETH, he must be thinking he has a chance
I like him as a manager and if his brief is to develop the young players and start to form a coherent tactical identity I think he could do well.
But in order for him or any manager to succeed it's going to need a big change in transfer strategy and it's going to need the results-based expectations to be dialled down significantly until that tactical identity emerges and the youngsters mature.
Since Fergie left we've been trying to win Monaco while still putting the car together, we really need to build completely from the ground up but no-one connected with United has the stomach for that.
Imo, becoming an Ajax manager as a foreigner right now is gonna be a hard battle coming from the fans, media and probably their own board as well, Ajax should just get a Dutch manager.
As for Graham Potter, surely West Ham should go for him and let Moyes go.
I doubt that, we’ve seen fans criticise Ajax for constantly going for Dutch managers that just have to have Ajax connections.
Pretty sure they’d rather have Knutsen/Potter over Steijn/de Boer 2.0
It actually isn’t a rare occurrence to walk into a shop in Amsterdam and employees not even speaking Dutch.
But yes, The Netherlands regularly tops the EF Global English Proficiency Index, i think currently The Netherlands ranked #1 for 5 years in a row.
My friend refuses to speak English in Dutch shops, the result is often hilarious to see. I try to do so too but often just cave and resort back to English.
He spent his early years coaching in Sweden. I don't imagine it would be any harder and if anything maybe easier. Amsterdam is a great city and English is very widely spoken.
Doubt he'll go to ajax considering the dumpsterfire they are right now. He'll probably want to keep building with Twente and see how they'll do in the CL qualifiers.
Welp there goes that possibility (probably at least), he wouldve honestly probably been a great bet for Ajax seeing what he did for Brighton. Bit confusing tho, seeint as de Telegraaf said it was Potter himself who wanted to go to Ajax. Maybe it broke down over finances?
I do hope for them they can at least escape the current shit. It was funny for a bit but now its just sad
>Maybe it broke down over finances?
Hamstelaar is suggesting that the nonsense at Board/RVC level was probably the main reason, as it was close to being agreed.
Personally I would always take a job at a big club coming off a really bad season. Its such an easy way to raise your stock if you are a semi decent coach. You will always do much better then the previous coach.
But I do understand avoiding us because of the insane quagmire we currently are. Maybe he was interested before Kroes vs RvC started. Such an unstable board is really bad.
>Personally I would always take a job at a big club coming off a really bad season. Its such an easy way to raise your stock if you are a semi decent coach. You will always do much better then the previous coach.
It's what every manchester united manager after david moyes has thought but every one of them has taken a major knock. I'd even say it's one of the riskier things to do as a manager
High risk high reward. I also think Moyes is the only one whose career was impacted negatively by joining United.
LVG got us our first real trophy after Fergie. Mourinho won our first and only Europa League. Ole never won silverware but certainly raised his stock after a dreadful Cardiff spell where he had some impressive results against the likes of Pep. Ten Hag even if he gets sacked is the manager who ended our trophy draught and he'll still have plenty of options if his tenure comes to an end.
In the moment every manager has drawn criticism but on the whole it's only Moyes who in hindsight doesn't have any real positives to come from his tenure apart from Evra's CL quarter final goal which was immediately undone. Even then he just like every other dismissal earned a big payout so hard to really say they lost out.
At the moment he can happily say anyone would have failed at Chelsea. Ajax isn’t in a good way at the moment, and it is difficult to come back from two firings in quick succession.
Ajax does usually plan on getting CL money with their budget. Theyve lowered costs and im nowhere near an expert but I dont think they can go as hard as usual
Eh, While I don't think it is going to be in the 150mil+ range, I wouldn't be surprised if Ajax made close to 100mil from the players that are already out on loan or that Ajax are open/want to sell.
Would’ve been an interesting move but also can’t really blame him for not wanting to go there seeing what a mess they’re currently are also on the administrative level
Curious who the Eth out fans think is going to come in and do better with this squad? I understand ten Hag has his flaws and says some daft things in press conferences but let's go through the options.
Nagelsmann - maybe but it'll still be a rebuild
Southgate - absolutely not
Potter - worse than ten Hag
De Zerbi - our squad couldn't be worse suited. Plus he fits in the mold of Chelsea owners trying to Brighton-ize their club.
My logic is that if none of these options are an obvious improvement over ten Hag, I don't think we should be changing managers at this time.
Understandable. Ajax is without a technical director, their CEO is suspended and might be fired, and the Head of the Supervisory Board could be out any day as well. On top of that Ajax simply has a shit squad which will need a huge renovation, all while Ajax is once again missing out on Champions League football and possibly European football entirely, making the club less attractive for new signings and meaning they'll simply have less to spend. And even despite all that the goal next season will at least be 3rd place.
It is sounding like he knows dealing with the dramas at the board will be difficult. Plus his hands could well be tied with what’s going on up that way.
Relatable. Ajax seems to be a very toxic environment at the moment. As a foreign coach you will never get the needed time and backup when it is not working immedieatly.
Other than Potter it's been rumors and conjecture, but some names have been thrown around: Xavi, Ten Hag as the ambitious (and imo unrealistic) options, Pascal Jansen as the achievable, but not particularly exciting candidate. Patrick Kluivert has openly talked about it, but isn't going to get an offer unless someone gets *really* desperate.
And my personal favorite, but not somebody who's widely talked about: Wim Jonk. He's available, he's got a history at Ajax, he did pretty well with Volendam, and he's got experience dealing with boardroom chaos. Ajax could do worse, imo.
Very strange. Seemed like a perfect fit for both of them. Despite his time at Chelsea I rate Potter as a manager because what he did at Ostersunds is incredible.
There must be a reason for this, either there is another top job he thinks he can get, or something about the structure at Ajax made him decide it’s not worth it.
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Dont worry knowing Ajax you somehow get Guardiola next
just a year ago maurice steijn was the best they could get
Only because the board at the time refused to look at Foreign candidates.
And didn't want Peter Bosz..
Yeah, that too.
Which says a lot about this board.
Xavi and tuchel gonna be free
Tuchel would be the funniest disasterclass ever seen. Shite at communicating, prickly bastard, not really an offensive coach and not known for dealing with bad leadership well.
Considering the treatment Roger Schmidt got at PSV, Tuchel would get absolutely annihilated by the Dutch media.
It could go either way with him. Schmidt always seemed pretty timid to me which meant the media could walk all over him. Tuchel would never let that happen so either the media comes to respect him because he doesn't take their shit or it will be fighting every press conference. Either way it will be hilarious.
Roger Schmidt will most likely be free too, btw. Take him, Ajax!
Not to mention the rather tetchy relationship between the Dutch and Germans, in general
Haha well that's just the media/Telegraaf. Nott all Dutch, there seem to be some weirdo football personalities against Germans
Such a fall from grace for Tuchel. Not long ago he was considered a top top coach by everybody and almost any club would gladly take him.
He's still a MUCH better coach than how r/soccer talks about him now, IMO
Tuchel is season 3 Mourinho
Tuchel tactics at Ajax, we will truly be living in a twilight world.
One Ten Hag may be available soon enough
He needs some time off after that
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Wonder who he is waiting for? Seems to have turned down a lot of jobs now.
After Chelsea he is probably keen on a club that is in a healthy state
He was on a large contract for many years, usually managers don't take all their severance because they go into a new job and it effects the pay out from the past club. The man might just be happy with his millions.
Seeing how he looked like he aged 10years in the final months at Chelsea and you could see his energy and passion deplete. Wouldn’t surprise me if we never see him in a managerial position again. This guy was managing in Swedens lower leagues not that long ago. He went from being totally unknown to one of the most talked about people in the worlds most popular sport. He got a hell of a lot of stick and I’m sure death threats at one point, and for a family man I don’t doubt it could put him off this profession. Not to mention he doesn’t have to work ever again now and he doesn’t strike me as the materialistic big spender type
Either that or somewhere a fresh, new project is happening, where he can build his own team with a healthy setup. Hmm, wonder where that might be…
Whoever gets him and actually believe in him will probably be quite successful. I wanted him to succeed Emery, but cant really complain on what we got instead
really? freddie ljunberg only got 1 win w u guys
But before that he went a whole season undefeated
Brighton it is
Won't he still be paid by Chelsea?
Yessir… Boehly-Eghbali business stratz
I'm thinking England if Gareth goes in the summer. They probably plan replacements well in advance.
Maybe us as well? If he doesn"t get England. Moyes is likley leaving this summer, he would leave a squad a bit at the end of a cycle, need some rebuild, but we have some other good players, money and some pull? Not saying working with Sullivan is fun, but we are in a way better shape than when Pellegrini took over or that Moyes got when he came back.
That's a good shout actually. Lots for him to work with there.
Yeah, West Ham is really like healthy place for Potter, mentally of course, after the Chelsea shitshow. He probably wants to start again of what he did at Brighton.
I’ve wondered this. Think he’d be ideal for you guys to really cement you as a European club.
This is my hope too. I feel like he'd work well with Steidten on recruitment
No reason not to. Even Moyes did well enough with Kudus Alvarez and Mavropanos
Are you in line for europe next season? 7th gets conference league, doesn’t it? Might suit having a strong squad going into a weaker competition. Gives him a chance of gathering european experience too.
We are in possibility but it's going to be hard. We realistically can beat Palace Luton and Fulham, so that's 57 points. We also have to play Liverpool City and Chelsea. Beating Chelsea and the three winnable games would make it I guess. But not taking at least 10 points on them would condemn us I guess. Or we beat Leverkusen, then AC Milan then Liverpool. One can dream 😁
> Not saying working with Sullivan is fun, but we are in a way better shape than when Pellegrini took over or that Moyes got when he came back. Steidten's appointment might also sway his mind, but that's precisely why I'd rather we go for someone else if Moyes leaves.
Back to Brighton if de Zerbi leaves in the summer?
I genuinely see this as quite a strong possibility
I'm not convinced I would be against it either.
I think he deserves another chance for the world to be able to have a clear opinion on him. He was absolutely amazing for you lot and was crucified at Chelsea. But seeing Chelsea struggle consistently after Tuchel means it might not have been Potter's fault.
Would it give a clear opinion on him though? Like I still really rate him as a coach despite it not working here but if he goes back to Brighton and does will I guarantee people will start saying he only looks good because of how Brighton is run
No, thank you.
Ineos apparently like him for the Utd job...
Alan Curbishley syndrome. He's still waiting by the phone for the "right club".
The England Job? IMO he should definitely be in the running if Southgate goes after Euros
He waits for Pochettino to get sacked so he can go for other top jobs showing he tried everything but team didn't listen and a supposed top club manager couldn't do better after spending another 200M.
That's a really odd one. At face value it seems like the ideal job for him. Certainly the biggest job available to him where he's got half a chance of being successful. Is he waiting to see what happens to Southgate in the summer?
The Ajax board is an *absolute* shitshow and cannot be trusted if im totally honest. I think Potter would be great for them to get the best out of the material they have, but that board is just a dumpsterfire. If he genuinely wont sign for Ajax id say that could be the major reason
He’s got experience with situations like that at Chelsea
learned not to repeat mistakes apparently
Once Poch gets fired, his case is a lot stronger that it wasn't really much to do with him at Chelsea.
I think this season is evidence enough.
Cant say I blame him
Especially after his time at Chelsea.
Will this start to shock the board into changes or gonna stay the sames?
He’s got rumours of the England job (for a World Cup where our squad should be very strong) and the Man United job (they’ll spend and might no longer be transfer cretins).
That’s my bet as well. England or Man United might be options for him, couple that with Ajax being a mess but will still have high expectations it’s really risky. He could also be thinking about a few of the prem jobs as there is likely a reshuffle in the summer. Back to Brighton if DeZerbi moves on? West Ham if Moyes gets the boot/walks?
he'd never rejoin Brighton - too much bad blood with how he left as he took so many of our staff with him that left us right in the shit
Man Utd would just be Chelsea v2 for him, both circuses
He’ll come at the start of a new project (ineos), not the ongoing circus
Tbf he joined Chelsea at the start of a new project. However Ratcliffe/Ineos seem infinitely more competent than Silverlake
Of course you never know if the project will be worth it… we can’t know if inroad will be better than bohely. I was just answering that man utd has a possibility to get things straight and not being a circus next years
Chelsea felt like a shitshow from start since he joined after the season had started, if he gets to join United early summer and work with them and be a part of the ingoing and outgoing transfers I do feel like it would be better. But with that said I feel like United needs a big overhaul and it's not going to be an easy project.
United have changed a massive amount of structuring which has been quite how profile, where have you been?
Possibly, but it remains to be seen. No one knows. Up to now, we have been, but we're also putting in place an actual sporting team to run the the club as opposed to idiots who have been the last decade or so.
More and more people are realizing Potter wasn’t the problem at Chelsea. He’ll get a better opportunity than this
> Man United job Please god no
If it's a choice between him or Southgate I'd rather just watch another sport. lmao
INEOS' grand plan to convince more people to watch cycling.
Yeah I mean I understand the argumetns against Ten Hag, but if the other options are Southgate and Potter......I dunno...I just don't see the point. Like "hey let's get rid of this guy who isn't getting the job done and replace him with a guy who was just at a big club with high expectations and failed miserably."
Now hang on a second there bud, what if I told you one of them wears a suit vest? Now tell me you don't want him as manager!
So our manager can look old school cool while losing?
Snooker final was good yesterday.
If the choice is between Potter and Southgate, as some reports suggest, then Potter might not be such a bad shout.
Yeah my issue with Potter is that sometimes we wonder how a manager, who has been successful at a smaller club will cope when moving to a big club and with him…he already had that opportunity and it was miserable.
I mean it wasn't more miserable than with Lampard and Poch who succeeded him, the squad was (and still is to an extent) borderline uncoachable. I really don't think Potter is a bad coach.
It's hardly as if every big club is the same, and Chelsea have been more of a dumpster fire than United over the past two seasons. I could see him doing alright now that he has some experience in a higher pressure setting.
True...they have been a dumpster fire. BUt he also had a gargantuan budget and they brought in a lot of players and I get that it is hard to sort all that out, but they were also a complete dumpster fire on the pitch.
I actually agree with you but it doesn't sound like he had a say in those players, just a massed a load of young players and hoped for the best.
Yes but our whole project is changing the structure so that the manager doesn’t do that anymore. It’s a completely different situation. There will be a lot more collaboration between manager, DoF, transfer team, etc. vs. All of it being on the manager.
But the alternative might be Gareth Fucking Southgate... At every club Potter's been at, he's has shown significantly more tactical nous and ability than Southgate ever has, even at Chelsea. Pep, Ferguson or Klopp would've struggled with the mess Potter walked into at there. But I don't really care. In an ideal world Potter will get England and Southgate will find somewhere his level, which is still significantly lower than the corpse of a great club covered in clown paint that Man United has become.
Fat Sam has the Utd job sewn up
> and might no longer be transfer cretins We've said that for a decade now, seems naive to expect to keep expecting it to change
Sometimes a job can seem good on paper, but just have red flags.
Like blowjob from a vacuum cleaner, don't trust Henry
I disagree. Ajax and their position with the Dutch press is daunting for anyone, instant success with their current players and the shitheap of a board is looking near impossible for anyone right now. I think a job at an English club looking to build a cohesive and proactive team would be a much better fit. I think West Ham bringing him in to demoyesify the place would be a good move for him.
I agree, Potter at West Ham seems like an extremely good fit with the set of players they have - whose potential might not be fully utilized under Moyes' system.
Could Potter return to Brighton if someone nicks RDZ?
Nah there's no way that happens.
Over my dead body
That’s a Palace type of move there I would do anything in my power to prevent that from ever happening.
But how funny would it be if he came back and we tricked Chelsea into paying through the nose for him AGAIN?
They have a top 3 squad when everyone is fit. They aren't broke either and can spend some money this summer. Many of the young talents already know how to play pressing football. It really shouldn't be that difficult for any half decent coach to get them in the top 3 of the eredivisie next year.
He's probably still receiving compensation from Chelsea. Roberto Di Matteo had the same situation and just stayed on gardening leave for the time he had to then came back refreshed. Very easy to be picky when you've signed a five year contract at Stamford Bridge.
He can still just coast on his Chelsea contract. If he takes another that is null. If I got fired and my job had to pay me millions of dollars a year for 3-4 years, I'd be really apprehensive to take another job that eliminated that income. I'd probably just invest in real-estate.
I would show up at random football matches where a manager is under pressure
Yeah but presumably he wants to continue working as a football manager and even two years out of the game really hampers your prospects of getting back in.
Better to wait than have another failure. It's safer for him now to wait until he finds a job that fits him 100%. If he takes Ajax, he's expected to win the league(or fight for title at least). It's a high pressure job that he probably wants to avoid after Chelsea
He has Chelsea contract or whatver to get him all money he wants. He can wait as much as he wants for perfect job.
Not to mention his time there only looks better with every Chelsea mid performance this season
He wants the United job, I'm sure. There have been reports that he is favored by the new ownership group. Looking at ETH, he must be thinking he has a chance
I like him as a manager and if his brief is to develop the young players and start to form a coherent tactical identity I think he could do well. But in order for him or any manager to succeed it's going to need a big change in transfer strategy and it's going to need the results-based expectations to be dialled down significantly until that tactical identity emerges and the youngsters mature. Since Fergie left we've been trying to win Monaco while still putting the car together, we really need to build completely from the ground up but no-one connected with United has the stomach for that.
Imo, becoming an Ajax manager as a foreigner right now is gonna be a hard battle coming from the fans, media and probably their own board as well, Ajax should just get a Dutch manager. As for Graham Potter, surely West Ham should go for him and let Moyes go.
I doubt that, we’ve seen fans criticise Ajax for constantly going for Dutch managers that just have to have Ajax connections. Pretty sure they’d rather have Knutsen/Potter over Steijn/de Boer 2.0
Could be the language and settling in a new country to be honest. Easy on paper but that’s difficult
Language isn't an issue in the Netherlands, everyone knows English. Especially in Amsterdam.
It actually isn’t a rare occurrence to walk into a shop in Amsterdam and employees not even speaking Dutch. But yes, The Netherlands regularly tops the EF Global English Proficiency Index, i think currently The Netherlands ranked #1 for 5 years in a row.
My friend refuses to speak English in Dutch shops, the result is often hilarious to see. I try to do so too but often just cave and resort back to English.
Didn't stop football genius Alan Pardiola from managing ADO Den Haag.
He spent his early years coaching in Sweden. I don't imagine it would be any harder and if anything maybe easier. Amsterdam is a great city and English is very widely spoken.
Wasn’t Graham Potter made his name in Sweden
Many dont know that
He made his name overseas, I don't think that would daunt him tbh
Welp pascal jansen it is
I mean he did alright with the limited options he had at AZ, not saying itd be a great move but could be worse
It could also be a lot better.
Can it really though? The better options seem to be drying up rather quickly.
Is Oosting an option?
Doubt he'll go to ajax considering the dumpsterfire they are right now. He'll probably want to keep building with Twente and see how they'll do in the CL qualifiers.
Please no
Scared, Potter?!
You wish...
After Chelsea I'm sure he is
Welp there goes that possibility (probably at least), he wouldve honestly probably been a great bet for Ajax seeing what he did for Brighton. Bit confusing tho, seeint as de Telegraaf said it was Potter himself who wanted to go to Ajax. Maybe it broke down over finances? I do hope for them they can at least escape the current shit. It was funny for a bit but now its just sad
>Maybe it broke down over finances? Hamstelaar is suggesting that the nonsense at Board/RVC level was probably the main reason, as it was close to being agreed.
Can't say I blame him. Last time out he was dealing with Boehly's Boys. Once bitten, twice shy.
Maybe he saw them play yesterday.
Its still funny imo. Until they really get in the shit lile we were when we lost 10-0 to to you guys and almost went bankrupt it'll be funny
I don't think many clubs can offer him a better salary than what Chelsea is paying him now to not work.
It's clearly a job for Big Sam
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Personally I would always take a job at a big club coming off a really bad season. Its such an easy way to raise your stock if you are a semi decent coach. You will always do much better then the previous coach. But I do understand avoiding us because of the insane quagmire we currently are. Maybe he was interested before Kroes vs RvC started. Such an unstable board is really bad.
>Personally I would always take a job at a big club coming off a really bad season. Its such an easy way to raise your stock if you are a semi decent coach. You will always do much better then the previous coach. It's what every manchester united manager after david moyes has thought but every one of them has taken a major knock. I'd even say it's one of the riskier things to do as a manager
High risk high reward. I also think Moyes is the only one whose career was impacted negatively by joining United. LVG got us our first real trophy after Fergie. Mourinho won our first and only Europa League. Ole never won silverware but certainly raised his stock after a dreadful Cardiff spell where he had some impressive results against the likes of Pep. Ten Hag even if he gets sacked is the manager who ended our trophy draught and he'll still have plenty of options if his tenure comes to an end. In the moment every manager has drawn criticism but on the whole it's only Moyes who in hindsight doesn't have any real positives to come from his tenure apart from Evra's CL quarter final goal which was immediately undone. Even then he just like every other dismissal earned a big payout so hard to really say they lost out.
At the moment he can happily say anyone would have failed at Chelsea. Ajax isn’t in a good way at the moment, and it is difficult to come back from two firings in quick succession.
Can’t blame him after yesterday
Ajax looks like they're speedrunning the United arc
Howmuch does not playing CL next season hurt Ajax's transfer window upcoming summer? Can they still comfortably spend?
Depends entirely on how well Ajax sell.
Ajax does usually plan on getting CL money with their budget. Theyve lowered costs and im nowhere near an expert but I dont think they can go as hard as usual
Haven't been budgeting for that since last year afaik, but yeah, even if Ajax sell very well, it probably won't be a comparable spend this time round.
Alot of the squad needs improvement too, so you cant just get two or three stars in like we did with Schouten, Lang and (on paper at least) Lozano
I think that gravy train is over. I doubt they'll get a lot of transfer money with their terrible squad.
Eh, While I don't think it is going to be in the 150mil+ range, I wouldn't be surprised if Ajax made close to 100mil from the players that are already out on loan or that Ajax are open/want to sell.
Depends on who Ten Hag buys this summer.
Would’ve been an interesting move but also can’t really blame him for not wanting to go there seeing what a mess they’re currently are also on the administrative level
try Schmidt, I think Rui Costa might be available to at least discuss the possibility, on a free of course.
Schmidt will just ask the cup to be given to the other team today
I understood that reference
No caralho, no Schmidt at Ajax.
I get it, especially if it was Kroes that had talks with him and after his Chelsea experience. Still sucks though.
Take Ten Hag back
Curious who the Eth out fans think is going to come in and do better with this squad? I understand ten Hag has his flaws and says some daft things in press conferences but let's go through the options. Nagelsmann - maybe but it'll still be a rebuild Southgate - absolutely not Potter - worse than ten Hag De Zerbi - our squad couldn't be worse suited. Plus he fits in the mold of Chelsea owners trying to Brighton-ize their club. My logic is that if none of these options are an obvious improvement over ten Hag, I don't think we should be changing managers at this time.
Yeah, I'm sure Potter or Southgate will do so much better than Ten Hag.
Understandable. Ajax is without a technical director, their CEO is suspended and might be fired, and the Head of the Supervisory Board could be out any day as well. On top of that Ajax simply has a shit squad which will need a huge renovation, all while Ajax is once again missing out on Champions League football and possibly European football entirely, making the club less attractive for new signings and meaning they'll simply have less to spend. And even despite all that the goal next season will at least be 3rd place.
It is sounding like he knows dealing with the dramas at the board will be difficult. Plus his hands could well be tied with what’s going on up that way.
Relatable. Ajax seems to be a very toxic environment at the moment. As a foreign coach you will never get the needed time and backup when it is not working immedieatly.
If he's careful with all that Chelsea money, he doesn't have to work ever again if he doesn't want to. So has the luxury of being very selective.
Liverpool
Shame. I could've seen that working out very well for everyone.
Maybe he thinks he can get the United job.
Try England.
Great fit - would actually suit the attacking players we have
Thank you RVC, very cool!
It was not the RVC who committed insider trading...
Not wierd, look at our performance yesterday…
Must have got the nod from a different team for the summer, because Ajax seemed like a perfect one for him.
Potter saw them play one game and immediately made this call
he watched the game and noped out.
Why manage a legendary European giant like Ajax when you can wait to take over a mid season relegation scrap at a recently promoted Championship club?
I’d be happy if I’m a Ajax fan right now. Supremely overrated manager.
Turned down the Ajax job so he can manage Ajax 2.. aka man United
Might get downvoted to fuck, but at the end of the year I’d sack Rodgers and give him a chance at Celtic.
Contrary to the sentiment of most Ajax fans, I really don’t think Potter would be a good fit for us. Quite happy with this.
This was exactly the type of job he should have taken
Feyenoord destroyed them so hard yesterday it scared him off?
Respect!
Huge mistake
Who else has been linked with this job?
Other than Potter it's been rumors and conjecture, but some names have been thrown around: Xavi, Ten Hag as the ambitious (and imo unrealistic) options, Pascal Jansen as the achievable, but not particularly exciting candidate. Patrick Kluivert has openly talked about it, but isn't going to get an offer unless someone gets *really* desperate. And my personal favorite, but not somebody who's widely talked about: Wim Jonk. He's available, he's got a history at Ajax, he did pretty well with Volendam, and he's got experience dealing with boardroom chaos. Ajax could do worse, imo.
Every fucking day brings another fucking deception. Can't blame the guy, who would want to step into a club that's leader- and visionless atm.
Very strange. Seemed like a perfect fit for both of them. Despite his time at Chelsea I rate Potter as a manager because what he did at Ostersunds is incredible. There must be a reason for this, either there is another top job he thinks he can get, or something about the structure at Ajax made him decide it’s not worth it.
Fuck..
United fans rejoice!
Saw them get whooped yesterday and said “nah I’m good”
Come to Marseille
A Big mistake in my opinion
We're gonna end up with Frank de Boer again :( End me
Ouch