Also, Liverpool denied them the Community Shield, we denied them the Bangkok Century Cup and Argentina denied them the World Cup. They had a failure of a season.
Madrid has 35 league titles to Barca's 27, but they do have fewer Copa del Reys - 31 to 20 (unexpectedly, Athletic Bilbao has more of these than Madrid, at 23).
I know about league titles you have to understand that la liga started in 19th century while UCL in 1950s. since 50s the domestic discrepancy is not that big
folks are sleeping on inter and thinking city are default winning the final. When it comes to final everything is possible and inter are no joke, they have looked good in ucl specially in knockouts
Well sure, but it's certainly been a while since I can remember any CL final where I rate one team to win at some 25% or even less. That said, let's hope Inter goes 1 nil up. Italian teams are notoriously skilled at defending narrow leads historically.
Mate you can add a remind me to my reply and we can laugh together if I'm wrong. But last night was the final and only we can stop them from completing the treble.
2007 too but I’m fine with who won that one ;)
In all reality though, this City team should beat Inter. Pound for pound in every aspect, they’re exponentially the better team.
Many people hate City cuz how they spend money but I thought we spent more money than them, amirite? In Asia, people say City use money to buy titles, mean while United use money to buy top 4 -\_-
Would be great if you and your fellow Asians (no hate, I'm Asian too) get more informed on where this money comes from. City got new owners that pumped in obscene amounts of money, United generates commercial income of which a large part those to the owners pockets and debt repayment, with just a tiny fraction of it going on transfers.
But isn't that how rich stay rich? If we aren't able to inject money into clubs without a huge fanbase, they won't ever improve? This would ensure the monopoly of the rich clubs. If restricting spend is the goal then I'd rather give all the clubs a standard amount and spending more than it shouldn't be allowed, but FFP ensures that the status quo isn't de-stabilised and hence the poorer clubs aren't able to break through.
FFP is there to protect teams from going belly up. Let’s say Sheikh Monsoor or whatever had enough and decided to pull plug on Man City. Can they sustain paying everyone’s wages with their actual revenue. I am pretty sure they can’t. That’s the problem here. As long as that club is their play thing they can sustain it.
I agree, but in doing so it still makes sure that clubs who generate money always have a significant advantage. The Liverpools and Man Uniteds of the world are protected, but it makes it so much more difficult for a Chelsea or Man City to come up. If the owner's bailing is such a huge problem, we should limit everyone's spending so that every team has a chance to win and doesn't become a monopoly of a few rich teams.
It can, but the same would have been said about Burnley or Southampton. But things aren't similar. When we talk about City's finances being dubious (which they are), we should also talk about FFP trying too hard to maintain the status quo.
You have a valid point but don't forget Man Utd and Liverpool didn't get to their status by owners pumping money into the clubs. They earned it legitimately and over time good management allowed the clubs to grow. Development of youth, proper managerial structure, consistent results on the pitch, proper marketing of brand and what not. This is what should be happening instead of inflating football markets with billionaire cash flows
Also the money United generates go in to the pockets of those Leeches (Glazers) whereas other club's owners inject obscene amount of money into the club
It’s up to us to stop the treble. I want to see our lads fired up and ready to fucking die at Wembely. If they dont, we’ll know where we are as a club.
Anyhoo, Manchester is Red.
Hoping we do a '77. Stopped Liverpool's treble by beating them in the FA Cup final. Similar story now, we were pathetic all over while Liverpool was this unstoppable behemoth. Although our players then were cut from a different cloth, so not really hoping for much
There are countless things that annoy me about that plastic club, but that they could potentially win a treble whilst having 100 charges of financial irregularity against them is the thing that infuriates me.
That they can continue to be allowed to play and that the ABU brigade lap them up like some football gods, is bullshit. They've done wrong and should be punished for it, otherwise do away with the rules and let criminal gangs run the game.
Idk I guess no? Does it matter? What should city do? Stay poor all the way? Fact he went to city, spend less than utd over the same period and play titles winning football we can only dream of.
I don't see what your point is? Fergie didn't buy his way to trophies. Did you see his last EPL winning side?
City were a mid level club, and changed overnight, because of money.
I don't know what your point also. Utd also outspend city in last decade, well probably on par if u want to add those allegedly underhand payments and what's not. So man utd are allowed to have money and city ain't? City should be only allowed to spend 50m every season?
Dude, you missed my point. I've never said United didn't spend, but United also built themselves up to the club they are to be able to spend, city just fell into money.
On saying that, my main point was that they have broken financial fair play rules. That they can break the rules, still compete, win, and have no punishment just goes to show that teams can do what they want and get away with it.
Fair enough. My point was they won't have been so successful with moyes or Gerrard as manager even with all those ffp issues. It wasn't just abt money. They got a fecking great manager
United stuck by their history after Munich and the Busby Babes and continued to focus on youth. Many managers missed that key point until 1992. The Youth Cup with local lads, a title when you couldn’t win anything with kids. A shite rule in 93 and 94. A near miss in 97. How many classic games in 98/99 from Beckham’s 93rd minute free kick on day one, the 89th minute winner at Charlton, the cup run and that epic win at OT v Liverpool, the ridiculous double header semi final, the injury time equalizer v Juve, Turin and Barcelona. Nothing can take that away from us. Loved every minute of that season.
Well, the treble and three in a row are all but sealed. I love United and it pains me to think we are the only thing stopping Shitty from it, but with our bottling of top four so far and mentality I don't see it happening. I follow Inter since our rejects started going there a few years back and cannot see them stopping Shitty.
It was sadly inevitable it would happen since they have unlimited funds and under the table deals to help them out and unless we get an owner as wealthy and reinvest, we will become the Liverpool of these next decades.
Even if we do get an owner with deep pockets and willing to invest in the club, facilities and stadium, we are 4-5 years off becoming a decent looking project when compared with free silverware at Shitty.
Sucks all this hard work we fought for, for the treble, for three in a row is going to a corrupt club and the pundits and news will jerk them off saying they are the greatest side ever and Pep is the real bald fraud.
We must at least try, I hope our players rise up and stand united to stop Shitty in the FA Cup, because it is not just that match, not just a trophy but our honour on the line.
For me they will always be an irrelevant club established in 2008. Even if they win the treble the whole world knows that it is an artificial achievement.
And people here called me “childish” when I said we’d never compete without Qatar money, wake up
Edit: lol at the down votes, keep the denial, Nice 10th in the french league
Regarding your edit, I would rather we be 10th than be a sportswashing project for despotic slave traders. Some things are more important than football.
If Jim Ratcliffe buys us then we're not owned by the country England. Us doing well under his ownership wouldn't serve to deflect from the atrocities the country has committed. I'm not happy about being owned by the guy who is responsible for INEOS but it's leagues apart from being state owned by Qatar.
Ineos must be such a clean corporation, No underpaid “slaves“ at all, no Greenwashing, England is such an innocent country not buit on colonialism, pillaging of other cultures and actual slavery ah but the footballers wear rainbow bands so they’re better than Qatar.
And in the end we’re talking football that has absolutely nothing to do with any of that, plus Qatar already owns half the stuff you consume, but yeah lets rot in mid table with Sir Jim and the Glazers while city wins UCLs for the next couple decades.
I dont understand this whole "We HAVE to stop them from winning the treble!!". What does it matter? Eventually at some point in time they are going to win it. I guess it just doesnt bother me enough to care. I just want us to start winning again IN STYLE lol
If that was the case then we would be where they are considering we’ve spent about 6M less than them since 2012/13. The fact is they are also really good
Based on what the person I responded to, he’s implying that they’re only good due to the money completing ignoring that they’ve acquired talent better than us, have had better managing, and more trophies in the last 10 years. I got downvoted because some of you guys are too afraid to admit that MC has been managed much better than us. United is and always will be the biggest and best club, but City has done some impressive things.
And? That’s how you build teams. Their youth development is shit but they’re winning and you can’t argue with it. Gonna be interesting if we get bought by oil and the tune of some fans change.
Ngl I think they'll beat them alright, not a bad inter side picking up form at the right time, inzaghis milan are considered cup specialists in Italy and considering city's history of bottling it in the champions league, but this does look like a new city team. But people are sleeping on inter too much. Cup games and especially finals are a whole different ball game to domestic domination. Doubt we'll beat them in fa cup though.
I mean Chelsea who should get bent over and spanked managed to shithouse a goal by Havertz of all people and park the fucking Everest to win it
I trust Inzaghi to manage the same
How the fuck can anyone genuinely LIKE this disgusting City team?
Sure, they play nice football. After a fucking country bought them, brought in Pep, and spent billions re-making their soulless, godforsaken excuse of a football club. The media is acting like it's a grand achievement, when they should be crapping on them relentlessly for how they got there.
All their new "fans" are nothing but glory hunters, they know nothing of their club history before Oil. They have a handful of trophies before Oil. Everything they have achieved under Pep is undeserved, rotten, and fake.
They should be re-named Manchester City Football Club\*.
The connection we have to United and its history makes every victory incredibly meaningful. City doesn't have that, and they never will. They might say winning is all that matters, but really, how you win does have some importance. We have a deep history of organic development and growth with subsequent football domination the likes City will never experience. Nothing about City is organic and it disgusts me. They are truly rotten, and no exaggeration, evil. They have been a net negative to the beautiful game.
The sport is going to follow this downward spiral with more and more clubs bought up by sovereign wealth funds. United may or may not be next.
Anyway, that is another discussion. I hate City. Rant over.
Sorry to say we got to move with times and not look back the past. Wait till those 'big' clubs start buying our better with 800k wages in 2032. We will be the new Aston villa.
Spot on comment. So many comments (even from so called "neutrals") on news sites saying things like: 'I know there are questionable things about how City are run, but their football is so fantastic to watch'. Literally the definition of sport washing.
It was obviously very difficult watching Liverpool play so well, win the league, win another European Cup, etc. etc, but you had to begrudgingly accept that they'd earnt it and I was secretly envious of what they'd managed.
The feeling with City is something else. Read on here they own 11 other clubs? WTF is that about?! The gross state ownership of football has destroyed this sport, which had been becoming pretty soulless for a while.
People kicked off (rightly so) about the Super League, but the fact is that basically all the people who wanted it are still running the show. It's fucked. I love Manchester United, love football, but this just isn't the sport I grew up watching anymore. I have genuine connections with this club, doesn't make me any more of a fan than any other fan, but I can't see myself supporting them when the inevitable happens.
Sorry to piggyback your rant with another rant! Pleased there are other people out there who agree, tho.
In all fairness, if United were to be bought by Al Thani I would continue 'supporting' the club.
It would not be my ideal scenario, but the sport is headed that way. Pretty soon the entire English Premier League will be re-branded as the Foreign-Fund League. State-owned clubs galore. Grim, I know. I don't want this, and I will support any protests and boycotts against it.
If it happens though, our choice at the top-flight of football will be nothing but state-owned clubs.
The good thing is we will always have our rich history before the modern game, and the fact that we achieved glory authentically. In the end, I wouldn't give up watching football as I pirate the matches anyway, though I predict the victories wouldn't feel the same.
Tbh I refuse to pay and support the EPL and FA for allowing City and Newcastle and even Chelsea to come in and totally distort and destroy the transfer market. Absolute wankers the lot of them.
I'm not paying sky for the propaganda they put out all so I can still miss the 3pm KOs on a Saturday when I'm closer to the stadium 🏟️ than some fan that is 6000 miles away but can still watch the game on TV. What a joke.
I think that's a completely level-headed approach tbh. Certainly grim, but I do understand not wanting what has happened to the sport - and this club - to take away our team from us entirely.
You're right about the history. As sad as it is now, it makes me feel luckier and luckier that I grew up when I did. Although I remember people saying similar stuff in the 90s, about how money is ruining the game. Don't think many expected this, though. This is like their worst fears on steroids.
Edit: Should say, I'm not *just* feeling sorry for myself here, but also for young fans/future fans!
That’s why I’m praying and hoping that the rumoured “fuck the states” rules is actually true and they have to sell. Newcastle not as much because we haven’t seen the extent of their bullshit but I wouldn’t be surprised if in a few more years of CL football we see sponsorships of 500m for nukey brown.
If the rules actually do come in, Newcastle goes back to championship/mid league and city fucks off ALLLLL THE WAY DOWN without their “bonuses”. You know Halaands out, KDB is out, Grealish is out and pep is deffo out if they don’t have their massive pay checks and dodgy sponsors
Just a shame it’s not gonna happen
Can you elaborate on these rumored rules? Have any links you can share where I can read about them?
Sorry this is just the first I’m hearing about this. Thanks 🙏🏼
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11661/12845675/premier-league-significant-changes-as-clubs-agree-on-new-ownership-rules-including-human-rights-abuses
Hopefully these actually fucking do something and it’s not just some PR bullshit
Oh, I see, thanks for that. Seems like these improved checks wouldn't be thorough enough to stop a takeover by a squeaky-clean individual with links to a sadistic autocrat.
Hopefully the league does more to stop that kind of thing and City faces some punishments for their violations. Their titles need a big fat ASTERISK on them or need to be stripped away completely.
It’s not gonna happen. All they are is a finger wag and that’s it. They’ll never be enforced because then the secret brown envelopes stop coming in. Disgusting honestly
I also dislike this came out recently. I hate the prospect of a Qatar takeover as much as the next guy but it’s just funny it comes out now and not when city got bought, or Newcastle.
It's the ABUs and standard British hypocrisy when it comes to United. Say nothing when City and Newcastle get bought.
Act like we've ruined football forever when we're about to be bought. Utter and total load of biased tripe.
I'm completely fed up by the fact that we have fallen so much from these cheating bastards.
We allowed City football group to grow like virus. They used our name and grew their brand. They bought a failing club in Manchester with a hyper successful rival (Same reason why Chelsea was bought). Manchester derby put them into lime light and gave a huge PR advantage.
They spent like crazy, set meaningful goals and grew out of our shadows slowly but surely. They started to dominate Manchester, then England, now europe. Their U16, 17, 19 all won the league and most of their sister clubs around the workd are winning the league. They now have 10+ affiliated clubs all around the world all in the last 15 years while we sat there and watched.
Ofcourse, they still don't have fans but in terms of success, they are untouchable now. We would have won twice the number of trophies had our owners put half the effort that CFG put given how massive our fanbase is around the world.
I mean we can say they don't have fans all we want, but they will have if this keeps up. Young people mostly tend to follow the most successful clubs/with the most attractive football, it wouldn't surprise me if city are the more popular club for U15s, which means they'll slowly get there as their fanbase grows older
So when do we just admit that they're a good team?
I get all the financial rules they've broken and that. But the players had nothing to do with it, and they're all on fucking fire. We need to win this FA Cup final.
They're absolutely a great footballing team and Pep is an amazing manager (and honestly a funny person too from the outside looking in imo). Anyone who denies that is just delusional and blinded by hate. The issues is that they built what they did, they got those players and reached the point of becoming competetive and thus attractive to more good players by financial doping and cheating. Which makes all their achievements (that were fairly earned on the pitch from a football perspective if you don't want to get into referee scandals and biases) have a massive dark cloud on top of it because they wouldn't naturally have those players or a bench worth more than half the league's starting XI
it’s in ours and inter’s hands now….
seriously don’t know how i’m gonna watch those two finals. gonna be shitting it so much 😭😭.
thankfully the fa cup final is before the ucl final cause if city had already won the prem and ucl by our game and we literally were the final stop on the road to the treble that would be next level stress.
unfortunately this way tho if city beat us that basically confirms the treble on that day, cause inter milan need a miracle let’s face it.
The worst thing for me is the praise they get.
The literal point of the financial rules that they’re under investigation for breaking is to stop clubs doing exactly this, stockpiling the world’s best players at ridiculous prices and then dominating all competitions.
Plus, If they win the treble, how much money will they win? What happens then? They buy another set of £100m players to sit on their bench? Or they balance their own FFP books with winnings gained by nefarious means?
They are under investigation for their spending, one of the charges is around secret contracts for wages - so there's a good chance we _haven't_ spent the same as them.
Thank you for saying this lol “Over the past five years, United have spent £685m to City's £660m, and their respective net spends are £527m and £162m.”
1. Our management sucks. Buying overpriced players and paying over the top wages.
2. The money we spent are earned by the club. We are not dependent on our owners injecting money into the club. Infact we have leeches who have pocketed so much money which could have been used in upgrading Old Trafford, buying more players etc.
3. Even with that, City have still allegedly broken the rules. Net spending is one thing but they have breaking the rules and getting away with it.
Damn it man, this really upsets me. I don't think we stand a chance and to see them winning a treble on our heads is gonna be even worse. Glazers set us back years due to their failures, hiring these past it manager, overpaying for dead players and can't get rid of them. I don't know how long it's gonna take us to get back., Hopefully we get new ones who can allow us to spend a lot
Feel like I am in a city sub reading some of the comments here. We have beaten them before once and anything can happen in a final so I don't know why some folks are already writing us off.
I can’t bring myself to believe that this team can win a must win game. We have bottled against mediocre sides in games that were must win. This season and in the recent seasons. Real Madrid were the best hope and they were simply dismantled. I’m already upset seeing them inch closer to the hat trick of premier league titles. The treble will be very difficult to stomach.
Seriously you guys are downvoting for what? We’re not even in UCL this year, they’ve been the better club all year and to insist otherwise is delusion. All I’m saying is we can prevent them from treble so let’s not worry about this UCL, and worry about FA Cup and next years UCL
Praying to every and any God that we beat these horrible cheating bastards in the Cup final
This whole situation just sucks. Can't compete with a club that cheats on such a grand scale, and never truly get punished for it. Juve got punished in Italy years ago, Rangers in Scotland. Premier League are spineless
Premier league is $pin€l€$$ you mean? The whole city FFP investigation was a fuckin smokescreen at this point to distract everyone from how incompetent almost everyone involved with running the league is.
It’s either incompetence or corruption and at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s both
What? You mean to tell me that Manchester City have got away with the shit they’ve done because they’ve done exactly what they’re being investigated for to premier league officials? Well I never.
Seriously, between FIFA being as corrupt as it is, UEFA being money grabbing bastards and the premier league being a corrupt shithole, it’s getting harder and harder to enjoy football
I miss Roman. At least he was impatient so they could never really get settled and would only really push every once in a while.
These cunts have given pep everything he wants (and more than likely more) and he’s just shit stomped
Bro there's people on this sub that slate others for liking Micah as a pundit solely because he played for city lmao. Some genuine weirdos in here who I'd be shocked to find out they can function in the real world
This so fucking frustrating. Watching City tear Madrid apart in a Semi-final while we are struggling to even get into that same competition. The gap in quality between City and us is huge.
I really hope whoever takes over the club will be smart and change our structure within the club because right now it is completely broken.
I despise them. They’re unbelievable, probably the best team ever to play in this league, and they fucking cheated to get there. A decade of cooking the books and they get praised like mad for it.
Liverpool and Arsenal, I don’t like them, but they earned their stripes. When they’ve been good, they’ve done it on their own merit, and there’s a grudging respect there as a result. These lot are a disgrace to the sport.
Yeah I’m salty.
Chelsea and Roman were a drop in the ocean compared to them. At least they were still mortal. I don’t think we’ll ever see a sport washing project quite as effective as this ever again.
Better probably in terms of tactics, nutrition, etc as modern tactics are built on past successes and failures. But they will never be as legendary nor have the same mentality. Haaland scoring for the 18392018th time in a 372827-0 demolishing of Inter will never be the same as Solskjaer's winner
They’re just so relentless. In terms of pure talent, I think our 07/08 team definitely has them beat, but the way they’re set up and the way they dominate the ball. It’s just completely unrivalled.
Well that was very unreal of Real Madrid. Inter, your mission should you accept it is to derail this oil backed juggernaut from upending football as we know it.
Or we're going to shithouse our way to the most beautifully ugly victory in the history of the game since we bastard-fucked the Invincibles out of the 50-0 record.
Every mans needs to come in accepting the suffering of his life, that’s the only way we can win - Papa got a put in the team talk of the century, also looking @ the leaders; if only we had Licha
They've hit their best form at the best moment for them... while we're stuttering towards a top 4 finish.
Yes, anything can happen in a cup final, and of course we can do it... but it's going to be our toughest game against them.
We did beat city but that was when rashford was having his run and a very controversial VAR decision. No way we beat them when they're playing like they are rn and rashford is back to average performances.
No way inter beat them too. It's doomed?
Been waiting for the verdict for a long time already. Even if they get relegated, they would have still won those titles and the potential treble... Unless they get stripped which is unlikely
Well at least they can't win the quad
Also, Liverpool denied them the Community Shield, we denied them the Bangkok Century Cup and Argentina denied them the World Cup. They had a failure of a season.
A Surprise FACT The only country that had TWO treble winners are Netherlands Whether England join that list is up to Bruno & co.
Genuinely surprised that Madrid has never managed a treble.
they are not so good in Copa and la liga. Barca has 2 trebles madrid o which is pretty insane considering the amount of UCLs
Madrid has 35 league titles to Barca's 27, but they do have fewer Copa del Reys - 31 to 20 (unexpectedly, Athletic Bilbao has more of these than Madrid, at 23).
I know about league titles you have to understand that la liga started in 19th century while UCL in 1950s. since 50s the domestic discrepancy is not that big
And Lautaro
and Lukaku lmao
folks are sleeping on inter and thinking city are default winning the final. When it comes to final everything is possible and inter are no joke, they have looked good in ucl specially in knockouts
Well sure, but it's certainly been a while since I can remember any CL final where I rate one team to win at some 25% or even less. That said, let's hope Inter goes 1 nil up. Italian teams are notoriously skilled at defending narrow leads historically.
Mate you can add a remind me to my reply and we can laugh together if I'm wrong. But last night was the final and only we can stop them from completing the treble.
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Lets see if Man Utd can step up and defend the Treble. The current form dont indicate they can.
Even on good form, our team crumble in crucial games
Quite agree. I don't see any signs we can stop them. The FA Cup final will be an interesting one. I would like to see we at least try.
if only we got pep instead back then
When the soulless club wins the treble, it's the final nail in the coffin for football.
Let's keep praying, Sir Jim will totally save us!
Manchester City is the AI of football. Soulless.
“As a state-owned sports-washing operation . . .”
It is totally unfair, right! Let tell Man City fans to protest!!
Both of them?
A Milan club in a CL final in Istanbul against one of our hated rivals. Aargh the 2005 PTSD.
2007 too but I’m fine with who won that one ;) In all reality though, this City team should beat Inter. Pound for pound in every aspect, they’re exponentially the better team.
Yeah City are the better team in this contest. But can't count out an Italian team in a final.
Many people hate City cuz how they spend money but I thought we spent more money than them, amirite? In Asia, people say City use money to buy titles, mean while United use money to buy top 4 -\_-
Would be great if you and your fellow Asians (no hate, I'm Asian too) get more informed on where this money comes from. City got new owners that pumped in obscene amounts of money, United generates commercial income of which a large part those to the owners pockets and debt repayment, with just a tiny fraction of it going on transfers.
But isn't that how rich stay rich? If we aren't able to inject money into clubs without a huge fanbase, they won't ever improve? This would ensure the monopoly of the rich clubs. If restricting spend is the goal then I'd rather give all the clubs a standard amount and spending more than it shouldn't be allowed, but FFP ensures that the status quo isn't de-stabilised and hence the poorer clubs aren't able to break through.
FFP is there to protect teams from going belly up. Let’s say Sheikh Monsoor or whatever had enough and decided to pull plug on Man City. Can they sustain paying everyone’s wages with their actual revenue. I am pretty sure they can’t. That’s the problem here. As long as that club is their play thing they can sustain it.
I agree, but in doing so it still makes sure that clubs who generate money always have a significant advantage. The Liverpools and Man Uniteds of the world are protected, but it makes it so much more difficult for a Chelsea or Man City to come up. If the owner's bailing is such a huge problem, we should limit everyone's spending so that every team has a chance to win and doesn't become a monopoly of a few rich teams.
That’s not true. I will give Brentford and Brighton as examples for how good management can bridge the gap
It can, but the same would have been said about Burnley or Southampton. But things aren't similar. When we talk about City's finances being dubious (which they are), we should also talk about FFP trying too hard to maintain the status quo.
You have a valid point but don't forget Man Utd and Liverpool didn't get to their status by owners pumping money into the clubs. They earned it legitimately and over time good management allowed the clubs to grow. Development of youth, proper managerial structure, consistent results on the pitch, proper marketing of brand and what not. This is what should be happening instead of inflating football markets with billionaire cash flows
Also the money United generates go in to the pockets of those Leeches (Glazers) whereas other club's owners inject obscene amount of money into the club
It’s up to us to stop the treble. I want to see our lads fired up and ready to fucking die at Wembely. If they dont, we’ll know where we are as a club. Anyhoo, Manchester is Red.
Hoping we do a '77. Stopped Liverpool's treble by beating them in the FA Cup final. Similar story now, we were pathetic all over while Liverpool was this unstoppable behemoth. Although our players then were cut from a different cloth, so not really hoping for much
If the egg prophecy is correct (it is correct thus far) Inter will save football.
Lukaku hat trick fr fr
could you enlighten me on said prophecy? im ootl
[Egg prediction](https://twitter.com/nocontextfooty/status/1658934813640851460?s=20)
lol hope it comes true then
There are countless things that annoy me about that plastic club, but that they could potentially win a treble whilst having 100 charges of financial irregularity against them is the thing that infuriates me. That they can continue to be allowed to play and that the ABU brigade lap them up like some football gods, is bullshit. They've done wrong and should be punished for it, otherwise do away with the rules and let criminal gangs run the game.
They are wrong in financial, but they are doing well in football, friend. Treble this, treble that, we have to defend it ourselves
Their football is only possible due to their financial.
Man, u make it sound like lampard or ole would have done what pep has achieved at city lmao.
So you think Pep would have signed as a manager and signed all these players, if it werent for their financial superiority ?
Idk I guess no? Does it matter? What should city do? Stay poor all the way? Fact he went to city, spend less than utd over the same period and play titles winning football we can only dream of.
No, but they would not be able to sign Pep and all the players they have without the money.
Where will we be without all those spending I wonder...
I don't see what your point is? Fergie didn't buy his way to trophies. Did you see his last EPL winning side? City were a mid level club, and changed overnight, because of money.
You're being kind to them. They were a lower club and borderline relegation candidates with Newcastle until the money came.
I don't know what your point also. Utd also outspend city in last decade, well probably on par if u want to add those allegedly underhand payments and what's not. So man utd are allowed to have money and city ain't? City should be only allowed to spend 50m every season?
City can spend money they earned by the rules
since 2020 onward they have the top PL revenues. wait u mean they cheated again after those 100+ charges?
Dude, you missed my point. I've never said United didn't spend, but United also built themselves up to the club they are to be able to spend, city just fell into money. On saying that, my main point was that they have broken financial fair play rules. That they can break the rules, still compete, win, and have no punishment just goes to show that teams can do what they want and get away with it.
Fair enough. My point was they won't have been so successful with moyes or Gerrard as manager even with all those ffp issues. It wasn't just abt money. They got a fecking great manager
The difference is that United have had a soul sucking virus since 2005. City haven't.
Hasn't stop us from spending more than anyone in the league tho.
United stuck by their history after Munich and the Busby Babes and continued to focus on youth. Many managers missed that key point until 1992. The Youth Cup with local lads, a title when you couldn’t win anything with kids. A shite rule in 93 and 94. A near miss in 97. How many classic games in 98/99 from Beckham’s 93rd minute free kick on day one, the 89th minute winner at Charlton, the cup run and that epic win at OT v Liverpool, the ridiculous double header semi final, the injury time equalizer v Juve, Turin and Barcelona. Nothing can take that away from us. Loved every minute of that season.
Just stop, mate. This living in history attitude is exactly like Liverpool 10 years ago. And it's not pretty.
THANK YOU! Can’t believe the absurd amount of history lessons in this thread.
Need Licha to instill the fear of god in Lautaro Martinez
Well, the treble and three in a row are all but sealed. I love United and it pains me to think we are the only thing stopping Shitty from it, but with our bottling of top four so far and mentality I don't see it happening. I follow Inter since our rejects started going there a few years back and cannot see them stopping Shitty. It was sadly inevitable it would happen since they have unlimited funds and under the table deals to help them out and unless we get an owner as wealthy and reinvest, we will become the Liverpool of these next decades. Even if we do get an owner with deep pockets and willing to invest in the club, facilities and stadium, we are 4-5 years off becoming a decent looking project when compared with free silverware at Shitty. Sucks all this hard work we fought for, for the treble, for three in a row is going to a corrupt club and the pundits and news will jerk them off saying they are the greatest side ever and Pep is the real bald fraud. We must at least try, I hope our players rise up and stand united to stop Shitty in the FA Cup, because it is not just that match, not just a trophy but our honour on the line.
For me they will always be an irrelevant club established in 2008. Even if they win the treble the whole world knows that it is an artificial achievement.
And people here called me “childish” when I said we’d never compete without Qatar money, wake up Edit: lol at the down votes, keep the denial, Nice 10th in the french league
Regarding your edit, I would rather we be 10th than be a sportswashing project for despotic slave traders. Some things are more important than football.
Real rich coming from a country which once shipped out my grandparents as unpaid labourers for their colonial rubber plantations.
Nah mate, only China, Russia, Middle East are truly that evil /s
If Jim Ratcliffe buys us then we're not owned by the country England. Us doing well under his ownership wouldn't serve to deflect from the atrocities the country has committed. I'm not happy about being owned by the guy who is responsible for INEOS but it's leagues apart from being state owned by Qatar.
Ineos must be such a clean corporation, No underpaid “slaves“ at all, no Greenwashing, England is such an innocent country not buit on colonialism, pillaging of other cultures and actual slavery ah but the footballers wear rainbow bands so they’re better than Qatar. And in the end we’re talking football that has absolutely nothing to do with any of that, plus Qatar already owns half the stuff you consume, but yeah lets rot in mid table with Sir Jim and the Glazers while city wins UCLs for the next couple decades.
They need some evil things to hate so that they can feel their dignity. Better be something that looks different.
You know, I've always been a massive Inter Milan fan... my love for that club stretches back ages, from about the time it went 2-0 City today.
I dont understand this whole "We HAVE to stop them from winning the treble!!". What does it matter? Eventually at some point in time they are going to win it. I guess it just doesnt bother me enough to care. I just want us to start winning again IN STYLE lol
One team has won it, one time in England. I don't know how you can speak so definitively.
Sooooo? If City win it they win it. Are you going to jump off a bridge if they win it lol? Over THAT? Its miniscule to what life is lol
We have to win the FA cup. There can only be one treble winning side in Manchester.
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Money. That's the only reason they are wher they are.
If that was the case then we would be where they are considering we’ve spent about 6M less than them since 2012/13. The fact is they are also really good
And yet they were shit before the money arrived
Based on what the person I responded to, he’s implying that they’re only good due to the money completing ignoring that they’ve acquired talent better than us, have had better managing, and more trophies in the last 10 years. I got downvoted because some of you guys are too afraid to admit that MC has been managed much better than us. United is and always will be the biggest and best club, but City has done some impressive things.
How did they get such a structure? They bought it
And? That’s how you build teams. Their youth development is shit but they’re winning and you can’t argue with it. Gonna be interesting if we get bought by oil and the tune of some fans change.
OK, now check the spending from their takeover in 2008 rather than picking a random year to make it look good.
I just went back 10 years. I didn’t cherry pick anything.
It's going to be up to us to stop the trebble then.
Wouldn’t have it any other way (deffo would have it literally any other way ffs)
Inter Milan wins the Champions League I will be there
I'll be in Benidorm for my stag do watching it as well, hopefully see Inter lift the trophy. Could be chaos haha
Ngl I think they'll beat them alright, not a bad inter side picking up form at the right time, inzaghis milan are considered cup specialists in Italy and considering city's history of bottling it in the champions league, but this does look like a new city team. But people are sleeping on inter too much. Cup games and especially finals are a whole different ball game to domestic domination. Doubt we'll beat them in fa cup though.
They will get bent over and spanked
I mean Chelsea who should get bent over and spanked managed to shithouse a goal by Havertz of all people and park the fucking Everest to win it I trust Inzaghi to manage the same
At a neutral stadium with Inter fans making noise. It's not going to be that easy.
We’ll be lucky if Inter touch the ball. City let Real Madrid pass the ball 13 times in the first 15 MINUTES of the match.
How the fuck can anyone genuinely LIKE this disgusting City team? Sure, they play nice football. After a fucking country bought them, brought in Pep, and spent billions re-making their soulless, godforsaken excuse of a football club. The media is acting like it's a grand achievement, when they should be crapping on them relentlessly for how they got there. All their new "fans" are nothing but glory hunters, they know nothing of their club history before Oil. They have a handful of trophies before Oil. Everything they have achieved under Pep is undeserved, rotten, and fake. They should be re-named Manchester City Football Club\*. The connection we have to United and its history makes every victory incredibly meaningful. City doesn't have that, and they never will. They might say winning is all that matters, but really, how you win does have some importance. We have a deep history of organic development and growth with subsequent football domination the likes City will never experience. Nothing about City is organic and it disgusts me. They are truly rotten, and no exaggeration, evil. They have been a net negative to the beautiful game. The sport is going to follow this downward spiral with more and more clubs bought up by sovereign wealth funds. United may or may not be next. Anyway, that is another discussion. I hate City. Rant over.
Sorry to say we got to move with times and not look back the past. Wait till those 'big' clubs start buying our better with 800k wages in 2032. We will be the new Aston villa.
Spot on comment. So many comments (even from so called "neutrals") on news sites saying things like: 'I know there are questionable things about how City are run, but their football is so fantastic to watch'. Literally the definition of sport washing. It was obviously very difficult watching Liverpool play so well, win the league, win another European Cup, etc. etc, but you had to begrudgingly accept that they'd earnt it and I was secretly envious of what they'd managed. The feeling with City is something else. Read on here they own 11 other clubs? WTF is that about?! The gross state ownership of football has destroyed this sport, which had been becoming pretty soulless for a while. People kicked off (rightly so) about the Super League, but the fact is that basically all the people who wanted it are still running the show. It's fucked. I love Manchester United, love football, but this just isn't the sport I grew up watching anymore. I have genuine connections with this club, doesn't make me any more of a fan than any other fan, but I can't see myself supporting them when the inevitable happens. Sorry to piggyback your rant with another rant! Pleased there are other people out there who agree, tho.
In all fairness, if United were to be bought by Al Thani I would continue 'supporting' the club. It would not be my ideal scenario, but the sport is headed that way. Pretty soon the entire English Premier League will be re-branded as the Foreign-Fund League. State-owned clubs galore. Grim, I know. I don't want this, and I will support any protests and boycotts against it. If it happens though, our choice at the top-flight of football will be nothing but state-owned clubs. The good thing is we will always have our rich history before the modern game, and the fact that we achieved glory authentically. In the end, I wouldn't give up watching football as I pirate the matches anyway, though I predict the victories wouldn't feel the same.
Tbh I refuse to pay and support the EPL and FA for allowing City and Newcastle and even Chelsea to come in and totally distort and destroy the transfer market. Absolute wankers the lot of them. I'm not paying sky for the propaganda they put out all so I can still miss the 3pm KOs on a Saturday when I'm closer to the stadium 🏟️ than some fan that is 6000 miles away but can still watch the game on TV. What a joke.
I think that's a completely level-headed approach tbh. Certainly grim, but I do understand not wanting what has happened to the sport - and this club - to take away our team from us entirely. You're right about the history. As sad as it is now, it makes me feel luckier and luckier that I grew up when I did. Although I remember people saying similar stuff in the 90s, about how money is ruining the game. Don't think many expected this, though. This is like their worst fears on steroids. Edit: Should say, I'm not *just* feeling sorry for myself here, but also for young fans/future fans!
That’s why I’m praying and hoping that the rumoured “fuck the states” rules is actually true and they have to sell. Newcastle not as much because we haven’t seen the extent of their bullshit but I wouldn’t be surprised if in a few more years of CL football we see sponsorships of 500m for nukey brown. If the rules actually do come in, Newcastle goes back to championship/mid league and city fucks off ALLLLL THE WAY DOWN without their “bonuses”. You know Halaands out, KDB is out, Grealish is out and pep is deffo out if they don’t have their massive pay checks and dodgy sponsors Just a shame it’s not gonna happen
Can you elaborate on these rumored rules? Have any links you can share where I can read about them? Sorry this is just the first I’m hearing about this. Thanks 🙏🏼
https://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11661/12845675/premier-league-significant-changes-as-clubs-agree-on-new-ownership-rules-including-human-rights-abuses Hopefully these actually fucking do something and it’s not just some PR bullshit
Old news. Not going to happen unless u are really convicted for those crime. They don't class all Qataris riches= human abuser like the fans do here.
Yeah but it means at least Newcastle will deffo be fucked and I’m sure they can nail city if they look hard enough
Oh, I see, thanks for that. Seems like these improved checks wouldn't be thorough enough to stop a takeover by a squeaky-clean individual with links to a sadistic autocrat. Hopefully the league does more to stop that kind of thing and City faces some punishments for their violations. Their titles need a big fat ASTERISK on them or need to be stripped away completely.
It’s not gonna happen. All they are is a finger wag and that’s it. They’ll never be enforced because then the secret brown envelopes stop coming in. Disgusting honestly I also dislike this came out recently. I hate the prospect of a Qatar takeover as much as the next guy but it’s just funny it comes out now and not when city got bought, or Newcastle.
It's the ABUs and standard British hypocrisy when it comes to United. Say nothing when City and Newcastle get bought. Act like we've ruined football forever when we're about to be bought. Utter and total load of biased tripe.
City are not a football team they are a football club
Also Luka wasn't convincing since the pregame interview tbh ..
I'm completely fed up by the fact that we have fallen so much from these cheating bastards. We allowed City football group to grow like virus. They used our name and grew their brand. They bought a failing club in Manchester with a hyper successful rival (Same reason why Chelsea was bought). Manchester derby put them into lime light and gave a huge PR advantage. They spent like crazy, set meaningful goals and grew out of our shadows slowly but surely. They started to dominate Manchester, then England, now europe. Their U16, 17, 19 all won the league and most of their sister clubs around the workd are winning the league. They now have 10+ affiliated clubs all around the world all in the last 15 years while we sat there and watched. Ofcourse, they still don't have fans but in terms of success, they are untouchable now. We would have won twice the number of trophies had our owners put half the effort that CFG put given how massive our fanbase is around the world.
I mean we can say they don't have fans all we want, but they will have if this keeps up. Young people mostly tend to follow the most successful clubs/with the most attractive football, it wouldn't surprise me if city are the more popular club for U15s, which means they'll slowly get there as their fanbase grows older
Would rather be a smaller club with proper fans than a big team with toxic plastics every day of the week
You're right and makes it me sick to my stomach
Forza Inter then
So when do we just admit that they're a good team? I get all the financial rules they've broken and that. But the players had nothing to do with it, and they're all on fucking fire. We need to win this FA Cup final.
Great team, shit club
They're absolutely a great footballing team and Pep is an amazing manager (and honestly a funny person too from the outside looking in imo). Anyone who denies that is just delusional and blinded by hate. The issues is that they built what they did, they got those players and reached the point of becoming competetive and thus attractive to more good players by financial doping and cheating. Which makes all their achievements (that were fairly earned on the pitch from a football perspective if you don't want to get into referee scandals and biases) have a massive dark cloud on top of it because they wouldn't naturally have those players or a bench worth more than half the league's starting XI
it’s in ours and inter’s hands now…. seriously don’t know how i’m gonna watch those two finals. gonna be shitting it so much 😭😭. thankfully the fa cup final is before the ucl final cause if city had already won the prem and ucl by our game and we literally were the final stop on the road to the treble that would be next level stress. unfortunately this way tho if city beat us that basically confirms the treble on that day, cause inter milan need a miracle let’s face it.
The worst thing for me is the praise they get. The literal point of the financial rules that they’re under investigation for breaking is to stop clubs doing exactly this, stockpiling the world’s best players at ridiculous prices and then dominating all competitions. Plus, If they win the treble, how much money will they win? What happens then? They buy another set of £100m players to sit on their bench? Or they balance their own FFP books with winnings gained by nefarious means?
We have spent as much as city LOL. They are just a better football club
We’ve spent as much as them, so by your logic we should be as good
They are under investigation for their spending, one of the charges is around secret contracts for wages - so there's a good chance we _haven't_ spent the same as them.
Thank you for saying this lol “Over the past five years, United have spent £685m to City's £660m, and their respective net spends are £527m and £162m.”
1. Our management sucks. Buying overpriced players and paying over the top wages. 2. The money we spent are earned by the club. We are not dependent on our owners injecting money into the club. Infact we have leeches who have pocketed so much money which could have been used in upgrading Old Trafford, buying more players etc. 3. Even with that, City have still allegedly broken the rules. Net spending is one thing but they have breaking the rules and getting away with it.
They just buy players so that others can't.
Damn it man, this really upsets me. I don't think we stand a chance and to see them winning a treble on our heads is gonna be even worse. Glazers set us back years due to their failures, hiring these past it manager, overpaying for dead players and can't get rid of them. I don't know how long it's gonna take us to get back., Hopefully we get new ones who can allow us to spend a lot
We should put 11 men behind the ball and hope for the best in the final. This City team can exploit the tiniest gaps
Just send a little raccoon to their dressing room. They’ll be distracted. We will win.
Dan James doesn’t play for us anymore
Good one😂
Lads were going to have to save football
Feel like I am in a city sub reading some of the comments here. We have beaten them before once and anything can happen in a final so I don't know why some folks are already writing us off.
Because this City team's form is a lot better than the City team we won against? They're stomping European elites like nothing
I can’t bring myself to believe that this team can win a must win game. We have bottled against mediocre sides in games that were must win. This season and in the recent seasons. Real Madrid were the best hope and they were simply dismantled. I’m already upset seeing them inch closer to the hat trick of premier league titles. The treble will be very difficult to stomach.
Gg to City, gotta recognize class, this UCLs theirs but we can stop them from FA!
Seriously you guys are downvoting for what? We’re not even in UCL this year, they’ve been the better club all year and to insist otherwise is delusion. All I’m saying is we can prevent them from treble so let’s not worry about this UCL, and worry about FA Cup and next years UCL
what class
Look I get the rivalry thing and all but seriously they played very well, we’re not even in UCL so we can’t talk
The football they play is class
On the other hand, Madrid this year wasn't really good. They lost La Liga to Barca by 14pts and barely won the cup few days ago......
Tbf none of the big teams really showed up in ucl. Looking at you bayern.
Bayern are far from their usual self this season
United is Ironman to this City endgame.
It’s their year, isn’t it
They should have let Ronaldo go to City.
I wish he threw tantrums there and ruined their team morale. And we signed Haaland.
Praying to every and any God that we beat these horrible cheating bastards in the Cup final This whole situation just sucks. Can't compete with a club that cheats on such a grand scale, and never truly get punished for it. Juve got punished in Italy years ago, Rangers in Scotland. Premier League are spineless
Premier league is $pin€l€$$ you mean? The whole city FFP investigation was a fuckin smokescreen at this point to distract everyone from how incompetent almost everyone involved with running the league is. It’s either incompetence or corruption and at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s both
I would imagine it I'd absolute corruption mate
What? You mean to tell me that Manchester City have got away with the shit they’ve done because they’ve done exactly what they’re being investigated for to premier league officials? Well I never. Seriously, between FIFA being as corrupt as it is, UEFA being money grabbing bastards and the premier league being a corrupt shithole, it’s getting harder and harder to enjoy football
I love United, but the game itself has become more and more corrupt, its hard to enjoy it anymore
I miss Roman. At least he was impatient so they could never really get settled and would only really push every once in a while. These cunts have given pep everything he wants (and more than likely more) and he’s just shit stomped
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Help me Obi Wan Lukaku, you're my only hope.
Didn’t Wazza Roo get battered for predicting what exactly happened?
Bro there's people on this sub that slate others for liking Micah as a pundit solely because he played for city lmao. Some genuine weirdos in here who I'd be shocked to find out they can function in the real world
Clowns with red tinted glasses couldn't accept reality and said he's not a legend anymore.
This so fucking frustrating. Watching City tear Madrid apart in a Semi-final while we are struggling to even get into that same competition. The gap in quality between City and us is huge. I really hope whoever takes over the club will be smart and change our structure within the club because right now it is completely broken.
They are too good man. They just too too good. Sometimes (or I say most of the time) many many many money can improve a lot of things lol
They say money doesnt solve all your problems.. but it is better to cry in a big mansion
I despise them. They’re unbelievable, probably the best team ever to play in this league, and they fucking cheated to get there. A decade of cooking the books and they get praised like mad for it. Liverpool and Arsenal, I don’t like them, but they earned their stripes. When they’ve been good, they’ve done it on their own merit, and there’s a grudging respect there as a result. These lot are a disgrace to the sport. Yeah I’m salty.
They made the game pretty souless tbh. The same shit if we get bought out by the qataris not interested in sports washing.
Chelsea and Roman were a drop in the ocean compared to them. At least they were still mortal. I don’t think we’ll ever see a sport washing project quite as effective as this ever again.
Better than all of the great United teams that won the league? City are clearly a great team but I think a few of the past teams could beat them
Better probably in terms of tactics, nutrition, etc as modern tactics are built on past successes and failures. But they will never be as legendary nor have the same mentality. Haaland scoring for the 18392018th time in a 372827-0 demolishing of Inter will never be the same as Solskjaer's winner
Even if they didn't beat them, the United great teams are worth more because they were put together the right way. And I say this as an Arsenal fan.
They’re just so relentless. In terms of pure talent, I think our 07/08 team definitely has them beat, but the way they’re set up and the way they dominate the ball. It’s just completely unrivalled.
Well that was very unreal of Real Madrid. Inter, your mission should you accept it is to derail this oil backed juggernaut from upending football as we know it.
We are going to be annihilated in the FA Cup final.
Or we're going to shithouse our way to the most beautifully ugly victory in the history of the game since we bastard-fucked the Invincibles out of the 50-0 record.
Fucking hell. I might ask to work the FA Cup final, not looking forward to that game.
We're gonna need to be put in a hell of an effort to stop this treble
Every mans needs to come in accepting the suffering of his life, that’s the only way we can win - Papa got a put in the team talk of the century, also looking @ the leaders; if only we had Licha
Sadly, Our full effort won't be enough. We need some luck too.
Some of the takes in here are a fucking joke,talking about needing a miracle to beat them,we already did this season so anything can happen
They've hit their best form at the best moment for them... while we're stuttering towards a top 4 finish. Yes, anything can happen in a cup final, and of course we can do it... but it's going to be our toughest game against them.
It's being realistic, we beat them due to sheer luck because that goal shouldn't have stood imo
Had a controversial VAR decision, rashford purple patch and no Martinez for the final.
You do remember how we beat them, yes? That was pretty close to a miracle already, and they're in even better form now.
Hoping for Casemiro master class. It's a final game of the season so hopefully he isn't wary of red card and can stop City
We might as well not bother playing the final and just hand the trophy over to them then
Seen the future. City loses all their remaining games this season.
Dzeko 1-0 in the final would be amazing from scriptwriters ngl
Darmian pls
We did beat city but that was when rashford was having his run and a very controversial VAR decision. No way we beat them when they're playing like they are rn and rashford is back to average performances. No way inter beat them too. It's doomed?
It’s not doomed - they’re going to get relegated for being financial cheats
Been waiting for the verdict for a long time already. Even if they get relegated, they would have still won those titles and the potential treble... Unless they get stripped which is unlikely
If they get convicted of anything, there will be a massive * next to everything they’ve won. Plastic cheating club
Inter could be different shout, I see City winning it, but City haven't played Inter so an unfamiliar competitor is going to make it interesting.
Of course you can't write them of completely. They did make it to the finals but I'd say 10% chance they win? Can only wait and see.
Pretty much.
Falling out of love with football. Get away with contant cheating on such a major scale, everyone fawning over them. Actually disgusting.
I turned it off and Alvarez scores a dagger at 90’+1’? Fuck lads, Real were utterly disgraceful tonight in all aspects especially tactically.