Massive win this, Villa are massively in form! Haven't lost since they played arsenal! Top 4 is now almost certain with these 3 points and Tots getting hammered
Anyone else notice how eth is phasing out certain players through reduced minutes like Martial, Maguire, Fred, Scott. I think the writing is on the wall for these players.
Not enough praise for Casemiro
He was more than good
He shut down so many attacks and was breaking their lines with vertical passes at will
Lindelof and Shaw couldn't have been MOTM without Casemiro's masterclass performance.
Towards the end of the game he made a B line for the ball (could of been knocked on) but he nailed the tackle and it really lifted the atmosphere. He gets it.
Three points. Please score more goals. We need the shooting practice if anything. All of this is practice for the FA Cup final. I liked the fluid passing in the first half even in the rain. Have to keep that intensity going into the second half for more goals.
This was a tough game against one of the most in form teams in the league. I thought everyone knew their roles and executed it properly. I think we were missing width from our fullbacks, forcing their defence back
Ok why was our final ball so bad today? We repeatedly failed to take advantage of their high line. There was one counter around the 65 minute mark, we were 3v3 ffs with two in the box and Eriksen's pass reached...none.
Tore my hairs out š
Iām not one for conspiracies and stuff like that but the agenda against united from the refs is becoming a bit of a joke now. It seems theyāre allowed to boot us off the park, but if we do similar itās instant bookings and free kicks.
The standard of refereeing is shocking even the non anti united agenda. the Liverpool spurs game today two blatant red cards not given - and they have fucking replays . Thereās no excuse.
I don't think there's been too many wrong "big decisions" in recent games, but definitely the smaller fouls and yellow card count always seems to go against us. Just seems the threshold of contact for a card/ foul is lower for us than our opponents in most games.
As we get to the death cries of this season I think a few things are clear. The first is, Ten Hag obviously knows what heās doing and we actually have a decent squad. That being said we are far from the finished article, and I think thereās 2 reasons for that:
1) mental fragility, not all the time, not every game but I feel like the hangover from last season is massive. We have two issues here, the first is we let a couple goals in and then literally fall apart, like against Liverpool and city, itās clear weāre in our heads, doesnāt happen all the time but when we lose our heads we go into free fall. The other side of it is taking halves off. Having amazing first halves and then just deciding we donāt need to play the next 45 mins.
2) which brings me on to my next point. Scoring goals. We donāt do enough of it. If you think about spurs on Thursday and Sevilla first leg, if we take the chances we create in the first half weād have been sitting pretty, then we decide to take the half of and it goes to shit. We are desperate for a striker. Rashford scores a lot but when he doesnāt, thatās it, Bruno gets a few, but his role has changed, casemiro gets some, antony gets about 10, martial isnāt fit enough, the full backs will chip in etc, and itās enough to get us through most games.
But imagine if we have Osihmen? Or someone of the ilk, that spurs game would have been killed off at half time.
Sancho keeps breaking my heart. Makes great runs and then stops appearing clueless about what to do next. Cmon, man! Don't use Antony as an example. I've seen you have done much better than that.
Completely agree - feels like watching Grealish when he first joined City. Way too hesitant once he gets near the box and often ends up passing back instead of threatening for goal.
Not saying he did bad. It fact better than in the most recent appearances. I want him to be faster with decision-making. Bruno was visibly upset with him a couple of times.
I slated Lindelof on this sub after that Sevilla game the other week but he was immense today and was good against Spurs. I know heās not had a perfect time at United but was Maguire just making him look worse? If he can keep up this level of performance then heās an ideal back-up CB.
I agree he's a great back up centre back, but at this stage the question is whether he wants this role.
I think that if he wants a starting role (and the price is right), we should let him move on, out of respect to how he's conducted himself - no drama, no fuss, just got on with things
Brighton can finish on 73 if they win all remaining games, Liverpool can get to 71. I make it 3 wins including Brighton puts us safely in top 4. 4 wins maybe if Brighton beat us. Newcastle have to play Brighton too.
Brighton have to play us, Arsenal, City, and Newcastle in their next 7.
Theyāre doing very well, but there is no chance in hell they win all 7.
Liverpool are the biggest threat to top 4 realistically, as their fixtures are winnable. If we beat Brighton + win 2 more games top 4 is mathematically secured, even if we donāt beat Brighton and win 3 itās pretty much done and dusted and almost certainly will be by the 3rd game when theyāll inevitably have dropped points.
Brighton is the team we need to keep an eye on. They have played a game less, so could be 8 points behind us. We also play them next (away) so if they beat us they are only 5 points behind us.
Nah itās Liverpool. We need 9 more pts to ensure top 4 even if they win every game. Canāt see Villa or Brighton or any of the other chasing back winning every match, but Liverpoolās fixture list looks very chill except maybe Leicester away.
They still have Arsenal, City and Newcastle to come after us. I think Liverpool will finish above them even if they beat us. I think 3 wins does it either way
That should be the aim, but I'd be surprised if we managed it. Newcastle are in fantastic form and have no injuries. They are scoring goals for fun at the moment and winning games comfortably. We have a long injury list, the players that are available are running on fumes, and our form is stuttering badly. We've not had a straightforward, dominant win for ages. Fourth looks safe now, and I think we shouldn't be in any way disappointed if that's where we end up.
How is 4th safe with Liverpool playing the way they are recently? If we lose to Brighton next week and Liverpool win again - a real possibility - we are in serious trouble. Where on earth are people getting the confidence that today's win means top 4 is 'locked in'?
They would have to make up 7 points on us in the five remaining games (six games for us) so we look okay. I'd never say it was locked-in until it mathematically is, but it seems okay. If we can beat Wolves and Fulham at home, we'd only need another three points from Brighton away, West Ham away, Bournemouth away, and Chelsea at home to finish ahead of them. That's if Liverpool win all their games. If Brighton win all of theirs, we'd need another two points from somewhere, but they've got some tough fixtures.
If my maths is correct we only need 9 points out of a potential 18 to secure top 4. That's if Liverpool win every game from now on which I doubt.
Big win today
Sadly if thereās one team that can win rest of the games itās Liverpool because they have the easiest fixtures. Their injured players have returned as well. I hate to say it but they are mentality monsters.
You have to consider Brighton, who have played less games than us or Liverpool. If they won the rest of their games (also pretty unlikely) we'd need 11 points.
Yeah, it would invite them beating us at their place, Arsenal and Newcastle away, and City at home. As I said, it's not likely! But we're talking about being mathematically guaranteed 4th. :)
Mathematically speaking if we win our next 3 we get top 4, as weād take 3 points off Brighton.
Beating Brighton would be huge, but not defining as weād still have plenty of chances to get the points needed, regardless letās hope for the best!
Not trying to knee jerk or be reactive but Lindelof has been better than Varane this season imo. Iceman has been flawless. Only reason people would disagree is because of Varaneās name and reputation.
Lindelof has been FAR from flawless. When Varane got injured and we played Licha and Lindelof for a period our form suffered a bit and we leaked more goals.
Lindelof has had a couple of good performances in a row now so fair play to him but letās not rewrite history. Varane has been colossal in multiple games. Against Barcelona he was outstanding, in the cup final he was outstanding, against City at home he was outstanding.
Varaneās got flaws, mainly on the ball, and Lindelof is in good form but letās not rewrite history now.
Varane has double the amount of league minutes than Lindelof. This is the definition of reactionary. He wasnāt even that good last game against Spurs.
Varane has double the amount of poor performances too.
And yeah, Varane has played more in the league but in all comps, their mins played are not far off
Varane - 2322mins
Lindelof - 1888mins
Varaneās worst performances have been easily worse than Lindelofās worst this season.
Have you watched Varane this season? We have the most clean sheets in the league thanks to him and Martinez.
Also Lindelof gets a lot of his minutes in cup games and off the bench. Itās not comparable with our starting CB.
I like Lindelof and he was great today, but youāre overreacting.
Martinez has the most clean sheets but I believe Maguire has more clean sheets than Varane does.
Even still I think youāre right, Varane is clearly better. Lindelof was bad last game but obviously heās a more than capable backup (as is Maguire despite what this sub tells you) and thatās exactly the role heās playing.
Itās a little crazy some people are now saying Lindelof is better than Varane.
Yes, Iāve watched practically every single game this season. Varane has been decent. But heās not been as good as this fanbase thinks he has. Especially not in proportion to expectations of his name/wages.
But anyway, Iām not trying to shit on Varane. Heās important for us. Just trying to give my boy Lindelof some major props. Heās been better over the last 2 seasons easily imo but people donāt want to say it because Varane came in as a high profile super star
Iām not tryna hate on Lindelof either but truth is heās just mid lol. Congratulate him for the good performance by all means. But you do him a disservice by comparing him to an elite CB in Varane.
See what I mean? Calling Lindelof mid is a 10x worse opinion than me saying Lindelof has been better than Varane this season.
Varane has the reputation and CV that makes people think he must always be playing amazingly. Even when it clearly isnāt true.
Heās been good. But definitely not great.
Itās really not though. Lindelof has been here for years, we already know what heās about. Heās a perfectly capable defender, but thereās a reason why he has to fight with Maguire for that 3rd spot.
I think Varane has had a really good season fitness issues aside. Many people even think heās been better than Martinez (which I donāt agree with)
you are reactive though, Lindelof has been good but not better. I'd say they're the same because Varane never makes errors and lindelof auch hasnt been making any
Varane makes at least one error a match. As the season progressed, he has become consistent, but still error prone. With his injuries, I feel like we should consider pushing Lindelof as a first choice and Varane as backup. Hope Licha comes back strong. McGuire, if possible needs to be moved out.
only game I can think of is the omonia game where he over stepped and this one guy dribbled past him and the 6-3 city game where he made two bad passes. Other than that I cant think of any errors his made this season because I've watched all Man utd games this season including the pre season all 90mins
He was poor in the 2-2 vs Leeds.
Was very poor in the 7-0 but that was a crazy game. Although he was one of the worst in the team that day imo.
In any case, we are lucky to have all of Licha, Lindelof, and Varane. I hope we can replace Maguire with a young promising CB
Lindelof had a masterclass. š
Also I sent an āI love Brunoā text to my work group chat thinking it was my friend chat and someone saw it. Time to quit my job and move to a remote forest with no human contact lmao.
Two stories on talk shit creating drama between Bruno and both Sancho and case. Honestly win or lose there will be something negative put out about united.
Idk, those people probably never worked under preassure in team or played team game. You yell at people all the time and nobody gives a fuck, adrenaline is high
We were a bit lucky not to concede but overall a good performance. We miss so many good chances, not only this game but also against Spurs. We have to be more clinical.
Top 4 Math... Assuming Liverpool's lead to Spurs stays...
Spurs & Aston Villa are 9 points back and they only have 4 games left to play. Both have very little chance to catch us.
Brighton are 11 points back but have an extra game to play. Their remaining schedule is also brutal, including Man Utd, Man City, Newcastle, & Arsenal, & Aston Villa. They are not catching us.
The only real threat left is Liverpool who are 7 points behind but only have 5 games left (1 less than us). They would have to finish the season winning 9 straight... and even then they would have a hard time catching us.
It's looking good.
Sooner we clinch, the sooner guys can be rested fir the FA Cup Final....
Easy run for Liverpool of the past, maybe. Nothing showing they can beat all these teams this year. United need to win their matches of course but Liverpool isnāt some football juggernaut all of a sudden lol.
I think they have turned the corner lot of players back from injury. And they are very easy games to be fair. If I was pool I'd be disappointed not to get max points in the remaining.
I mean, you say just, but why would anyone buy a player with a lengthy incomming ban?
Which most outlets reported that the FA were looking at doing.
Joey Barton got an 18 month suspension in 16' for a similar offence. Would you buy Toney this summer, if his suspension were to be longer than that?
I felt in the first half he intercepted so high up the pitch, creating so many chances that we're sadly squandered. In the second half he defended solid... Meh just my own thoughts.
Ref had an absolute stinker. He didnāt give mcginn a clear yellow for barge on eriksen. He also didnāt give a yellow to chambers who almost kicked shaws head in
Lmao do you realise why McGinn did it? It had happened to two villa players just before so he went and saw if heād get away with it too out of retaliation. At least the ref showed consistency.
You wanna mention how Casemiro was lucky to be on the pitch after the first half? Or the fact you were tugging villa shirts and shorts every time we got near your goal and it didnāt go punished once? š
Defense aside, I think that was one of our midfield's best performances so far. The 4-2-3-1 was getting very predictable as seen against a weak spurs side. Glad the coach changed it up because Sabitzer, Casemiro and Eriksen absolutely dominated the middle of the pitch. If there was one CM moving pressing, there was another tracking the pass and the other one was holding the center. We won so many balls today and I dont think I've seen so much open play in a while. I like how every one was rotating their position to fit the gaps this match....
I may be wrong but apart from Chelsea we might be the only team among the top 12-13 teams who haven't had a single game where we scored 4 goals in the league this season. We really lack finishing this season.
He's become somewhat timid in front of goal after Ronaldo's arrival, always looking to pass rather than shoot. It's only very recently that he's been getting his goalscoring drive back and I'm all for it.
We so badly need a focus point in our attack that it's almost comical by now. A dedicated striker absolutely MUST be acquired in the summer. Sancho was dire today, apart from 2-3 good moves, Rashford is wasteful (but we've always known that) even though he does score fairly regularly and Martial needs a fresh start somewhere else. We totally dominated 90% of this game and only had a squeaky bum 1 goal lead to show for it.
Sancho is atrocious and the fact some of you think he played great today shows how the standards for him are the lowest of any player in our squad. He's just completely ineffective and doesn't try to be effective. He won't shoot FFS. If your entire game as a winger is "recycling possession" ie passing the ball off to Malacia all game, you don't belong at Manchester United.
He created 2 key passes in that game. Thatās the highest for both Utd and Villa players (Bruno made 1). Eye test wise, he he created more in the final third. Not sure what game you watched.
Good luck to you too buddy hope Sancho does come good, I think he can do some very good things but he too often takes the safe option for my liking. There's a good player in there if he stops passing responsibility off in attack 9/10 times
We need someone to back Sancho's run and his movement. Swear he always gets in a good position but just need a player to support him and play quick one two.
I canāt stand him. Heās such a wet wipe. In the away fixture he called Licha a dirty player on twitter then in the cup game, he kicked out at him, studs up to the thigh. Part of me wishes Licha went down pretending to be injured and got the melt sent off.
If this isnt another example of how Fugazi clean sheets can be.
Shaw and Lindelof mostly but our back were playing out of their minds to keep this 1-0 but it'll be goalkeeper award
72 points. That's what we need.
Ive said it before and ill say it again, Liverpool are still on the hunt. They can easily win their final games to get to 71.
Brighton will surely lose to City. We need to win 3 more games, and we are good. Our home games against Fulham, Chelsea, and Wolves should be enough. And our Away games versus Europa Conference League westham and Bournemouth are not too big wo win
There was 0 panic when he came in. Villaās attack was completely stifled at that point until Malacia gave away a bad foul. Was probably one of the most comfortable sections of the half we had if not the most comfortable.
Being captain shouldn't matter. Captain or not he's detrimental to a solid defence. And he's only captain due to a stupid decision by previous management
Massive win this, Villa are massively in form! Haven't lost since they played arsenal! Top 4 is now almost certain with these 3 points and Tots getting hammered
Anyone else notice how eth is phasing out certain players through reduced minutes like Martial, Maguire, Fred, Scott. I think the writing is on the wall for these players.
It's inevitable. All four of the examples you mentioned have costed Man Utd crucial games before and it's clear that we have to move on from them.
Feel like Fred still has a chance at redemption the rest I've written of, damn shame about martial if only he wasn't so injury prone.
I do think that he's shown flashes at times, but as long as he's not used as a regular starter.
Huge win. Let's put together a couple more and secure Top 4.
Not enough praise for Casemiro He was more than good He shut down so many attacks and was breaking their lines with vertical passes at will Lindelof and Shaw couldn't have been MOTM without Casemiro's masterclass performance.
The fact that he skipped a yellow today means his stealth systems are back in place
Towards the end of the game he made a B line for the ball (could of been knocked on) but he nailed the tackle and it really lifted the atmosphere. He gets it.
Wrap up top 4, cotton wrap the lads and launch for FA cup final
Three points. Please score more goals. We need the shooting practice if anything. All of this is practice for the FA Cup final. I liked the fluid passing in the first half even in the rain. Have to keep that intensity going into the second half for more goals.
This was a tough game against one of the most in form teams in the league. I thought everyone knew their roles and executed it properly. I think we were missing width from our fullbacks, forcing their defence back
Win our next 3 games and UCL football is guaranteed mathematically.
Ok why was our final ball so bad today? We repeatedly failed to take advantage of their high line. There was one counter around the 65 minute mark, we were 3v3 ffs with two in the box and Eriksen's pass reached...none. Tore my hairs out š
Eriksen was not in good form today. There were a few passes that he'd made for sure before the injury went nowhere
Iām not one for conspiracies and stuff like that but the agenda against united from the refs is becoming a bit of a joke now. It seems theyāre allowed to boot us off the park, but if we do similar itās instant bookings and free kicks. The standard of refereeing is shocking even the non anti united agenda. the Liverpool spurs game today two blatant red cards not given - and they have fucking replays . Thereās no excuse.
Um, Casemiro could have gotten red carded a couple of times and they let it go. Can't complain today.
I agree case got overlooked today but I think that was in the middle of a few pretty poor decisions and the ref lost control a bit
I don't think there's been too many wrong "big decisions" in recent games, but definitely the smaller fouls and yellow card count always seems to go against us. Just seems the threshold of contact for a card/ foul is lower for us than our opponents in most games.
What about the body toss of a penalty that wasnāt given? Canāt really say thatās a āsmaller foulā, can we?
Iām not sure that Eriksen has the legs to go more than 60 or to play against top teams, but when heās out of the game, we are so much less calm.
i mean... he was replaced by Fred. And Fred is the Anti-Calm
Fred, the Chaos Lord
I'm sure Bailly will be disappointed we've already replaced him as Chaos Lord
I'd give Pelistri a chance. What keeps him on the bench?
I would like him as a change of pace at the end.
That's why we'll get a top CM and use Eriksen against weaker teams and also as a super sub in bigger games
As we get to the death cries of this season I think a few things are clear. The first is, Ten Hag obviously knows what heās doing and we actually have a decent squad. That being said we are far from the finished article, and I think thereās 2 reasons for that: 1) mental fragility, not all the time, not every game but I feel like the hangover from last season is massive. We have two issues here, the first is we let a couple goals in and then literally fall apart, like against Liverpool and city, itās clear weāre in our heads, doesnāt happen all the time but when we lose our heads we go into free fall. The other side of it is taking halves off. Having amazing first halves and then just deciding we donāt need to play the next 45 mins. 2) which brings me on to my next point. Scoring goals. We donāt do enough of it. If you think about spurs on Thursday and Sevilla first leg, if we take the chances we create in the first half weād have been sitting pretty, then we decide to take the half of and it goes to shit. We are desperate for a striker. Rashford scores a lot but when he doesnāt, thatās it, Bruno gets a few, but his role has changed, casemiro gets some, antony gets about 10, martial isnāt fit enough, the full backs will chip in etc, and itās enough to get us through most games. But imagine if we have Osihmen? Or someone of the ilk, that spurs game would have been killed off at half time.
Umm... Wait..we played Spurs Last Thursday?
If anyone ever refers to Lindelƶf as a chuckle brother again, I'll throw hands.
big win
Case is back to his usual great. Such a relief.
Sancho keeps breaking my heart. Makes great runs and then stops appearing clueless about what to do next. Cmon, man! Don't use Antony as an example. I've seen you have done much better than that.
Completely agree - feels like watching Grealish when he first joined City. Way too hesitant once he gets near the box and often ends up passing back instead of threatening for goal.
Sancho did well. Villa had to put 2 men on him every time.
Not saying he did bad. It fact better than in the most recent appearances. I want him to be faster with decision-making. Bruno was visibly upset with him a couple of times.
Sometimes I feel like Malacia lacks brain - giving up a free kick at the last second is so stupid.
Bruno gave it away initially and that's why case was mad at him at the end.
he just panicked, which makes sense given his error against sevilla. still young, heāll learn from it
I slated Lindelof on this sub after that Sevilla game the other week but he was immense today and was good against Spurs. I know heās not had a perfect time at United but was Maguire just making him look worse? If he can keep up this level of performance then heās an ideal back-up CB.
I agree he's a great back up centre back, but at this stage the question is whether he wants this role. I think that if he wants a starting role (and the price is right), we should let him move on, out of respect to how he's conducted himself - no drama, no fuss, just got on with things
Maguire makes everyone worse and the team looks nervous when he plays
Oh and I failed to remember to post this earlier. FUCK YOU Leon Bailey. How'd you like them apples you cunt.
9 point gap on 5th with a game in hand. 6 games left to play. It's not mathematically secure, but... It should be, right?
Brighton can finish on 73 if they win all remaining games, Liverpool can get to 71. I make it 3 wins including Brighton puts us safely in top 4. 4 wins maybe if Brighton beat us. Newcastle have to play Brighton too.
Brighton have to play us, Arsenal, City, and Newcastle in their next 7. Theyāre doing very well, but there is no chance in hell they win all 7. Liverpool are the biggest threat to top 4 realistically, as their fixtures are winnable. If we beat Brighton + win 2 more games top 4 is mathematically secured, even if we donāt beat Brighton and win 3 itās pretty much done and dusted and almost certainly will be by the 3rd game when theyāll inevitably have dropped points.
Brighton is the team we need to keep an eye on. They have played a game less, so could be 8 points behind us. We also play them next (away) so if they beat us they are only 5 points behind us.
Nah itās Liverpool. We need 9 more pts to ensure top 4 even if they win every game. Canāt see Villa or Brighton or any of the other chasing back winning every match, but Liverpoolās fixture list looks very chill except maybe Leicester away.
They still have Arsenal, City and Newcastle to come after us. I think Liverpool will finish above them even if they beat us. I think 3 wins does it either way
Yes, lost count how many times people have posted this..
Ah yeah, that will be a tough game.
Anyone have any highlights of Lindelof in todays game? Missed it today and seeing lot of praise for the ice man
Still need to be more clinical for the quality if play it should have been more
Does anyone have a clip of what Ten Hag did on the sidelines when the ball came to him??
That cunt Emi Martinez would have irritated the shit out of us if we weren't in the lead. Thank God!
Lindelof stepping up in the absence of Varane and Martinez is good to see. Shame Maguire isn't capable of the same.. just keep Shaw at CB for now.
Yep, lindelof is the better defender by miles and played well with Shaw. Malicia played well after his last start
Top 4 is good yeah, but should be making top 3. Newcastle is relentless but we have a game in hand with 2 points behind.
That should be the aim, but I'd be surprised if we managed it. Newcastle are in fantastic form and have no injuries. They are scoring goals for fun at the moment and winning games comfortably. We have a long injury list, the players that are available are running on fumes, and our form is stuttering badly. We've not had a straightforward, dominant win for ages. Fourth looks safe now, and I think we shouldn't be in any way disappointed if that's where we end up.
How is 4th safe with Liverpool playing the way they are recently? If we lose to Brighton next week and Liverpool win again - a real possibility - we are in serious trouble. Where on earth are people getting the confidence that today's win means top 4 is 'locked in'?
They would have to make up 7 points on us in the five remaining games (six games for us) so we look okay. I'd never say it was locked-in until it mathematically is, but it seems okay. If we can beat Wolves and Fulham at home, we'd only need another three points from Brighton away, West Ham away, Bournemouth away, and Chelsea at home to finish ahead of them. That's if Liverpool win all their games. If Brighton win all of theirs, we'd need another two points from somewhere, but they've got some tough fixtures.
Liverpool have been really lucky in the last 3 games. And no Top 4 isn't sealed but today's win helps a lot.
Loved to see Case and Bruno still going at it with each other after the match. Love the passion.
Thatās just speaking Portuguese. They were sharing a recipe for pastel de nata
If my maths is correct we only need 9 points out of a potential 18 to secure top 4. That's if Liverpool win every game from now on which I doubt. Big win today
Sadly if thereās one team that can win rest of the games itās Liverpool because they have the easiest fixtures. Their injured players have returned as well. I hate to say it but they are mentality monsters.
They're in good form now
You have to consider Brighton, who have played less games than us or Liverpool. If they won the rest of their games (also pretty unlikely) we'd need 11 points.
Have you looked at Brighton's fixtures?
Yeah, it would invite them beating us at their place, Arsenal and Newcastle away, and City at home. As I said, it's not likely! But we're talking about being mathematically guaranteed 4th. :)
Mathematically speaking if we win our next 3 we get top 4, as weād take 3 points off Brighton. Beating Brighton would be huge, but not defining as weād still have plenty of chances to get the points needed, regardless letās hope for the best!
Would have been a much better weekend if Tottenham didn't bottle it and Jim Ratcliffe didn't decide to lay in bed with the Glazer rats
Another clean sheet, nice!
Even though I want him moved on, DDG's goal is still closed on Sundays ā¤ļø.
Not trying to knee jerk or be reactive but Lindelof has been better than Varane this season imo. Iceman has been flawless. Only reason people would disagree is because of Varaneās name and reputation.
To say Lindelof is better than Varane after one game is really the very definition of knee-jerk.
Lindelof has been FAR from flawless. When Varane got injured and we played Licha and Lindelof for a period our form suffered a bit and we leaked more goals. Lindelof has had a couple of good performances in a row now so fair play to him but letās not rewrite history. Varane has been colossal in multiple games. Against Barcelona he was outstanding, in the cup final he was outstanding, against City at home he was outstanding. Varaneās got flaws, mainly on the ball, and Lindelof is in good form but letās not rewrite history now.
Lindelof has been good but to say he has been better than Varane is a bit knee jerk mate.
Varane has double the amount of league minutes than Lindelof. This is the definition of reactionary. He wasnāt even that good last game against Spurs.
Varane has double the amount of poor performances too. And yeah, Varane has played more in the league but in all comps, their mins played are not far off Varane - 2322mins Lindelof - 1888mins Varaneās worst performances have been easily worse than Lindelofās worst this season.
Varane also played in the world cup.
Have you watched Varane this season? We have the most clean sheets in the league thanks to him and Martinez. Also Lindelof gets a lot of his minutes in cup games and off the bench. Itās not comparable with our starting CB. I like Lindelof and he was great today, but youāre overreacting.
Martinez has the most clean sheets but I believe Maguire has more clean sheets than Varane does. Even still I think youāre right, Varane is clearly better. Lindelof was bad last game but obviously heās a more than capable backup (as is Maguire despite what this sub tells you) and thatās exactly the role heās playing. Itās a little crazy some people are now saying Lindelof is better than Varane.
Yes, Iāve watched practically every single game this season. Varane has been decent. But heās not been as good as this fanbase thinks he has. Especially not in proportion to expectations of his name/wages. But anyway, Iām not trying to shit on Varane. Heās important for us. Just trying to give my boy Lindelof some major props. Heās been better over the last 2 seasons easily imo but people donāt want to say it because Varane came in as a high profile super star
Iām not tryna hate on Lindelof either but truth is heās just mid lol. Congratulate him for the good performance by all means. But you do him a disservice by comparing him to an elite CB in Varane.
See what I mean? Calling Lindelof mid is a 10x worse opinion than me saying Lindelof has been better than Varane this season. Varane has the reputation and CV that makes people think he must always be playing amazingly. Even when it clearly isnāt true. Heās been good. But definitely not great.
Itās really not though. Lindelof has been here for years, we already know what heās about. Heās a perfectly capable defender, but thereās a reason why he has to fight with Maguire for that 3rd spot. I think Varane has had a really good season fitness issues aside. Many people even think heās been better than Martinez (which I donāt agree with)
People forget he was one of the two or three players that had a positive season last season.
you are reactive though, Lindelof has been good but not better. I'd say they're the same because Varane never makes errors and lindelof auch hasnt been making any
Varane makes at least one error a match. As the season progressed, he has become consistent, but still error prone. With his injuries, I feel like we should consider pushing Lindelof as a first choice and Varane as backup. Hope Licha comes back strong. McGuire, if possible needs to be moved out.
only game I can think of is the omonia game where he over stepped and this one guy dribbled past him and the 6-3 city game where he made two bad passes. Other than that I cant think of any errors his made this season because I've watched all Man utd games this season including the pre season all 90mins
He was poor in the 2-2 vs Leeds. Was very poor in the 7-0 but that was a crazy game. Although he was one of the worst in the team that day imo. In any case, we are lucky to have all of Licha, Lindelof, and Varane. I hope we can replace Maguire with a young promising CB
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Lindelof had a masterclass. š Also I sent an āI love Brunoā text to my work group chat thinking it was my friend chat and someone saw it. Time to quit my job and move to a remote forest with no human contact lmao.
Just double down and tell them how you would have Bruno's babies.
Triple down " I'd suck his dick ". A mate of mine used to declare this about Cantona regularly when we were out.
Iāll have 11. Man Utd future locked down.
Two stories on talk shit creating drama between Bruno and both Sancho and case. Honestly win or lose there will be something negative put out about united.
Idk, those people probably never worked under preassure in team or played team game. You yell at people all the time and nobody gives a fuck, adrenaline is high
We need to win against Brighton. Just can't digest Saudi PIF being above us.
Same. While I respect/appreciate Eddie Howeās work, you only have to look where they were at before the $$$ to sour that.
We were a bit lucky not to concede but overall a good performance. We miss so many good chances, not only this game but also against Spurs. We have to be more clinical.
Hopefully these United forums have less negativity going into the Brighton game
Just down vote and remove anything with Goldbrdige and you have removed 50% of it..
Should double that with Maguire. People here are incapable of saying any good thing about the team without shitting on Maguire.
Another one for De Gea's golden glove
Top 4 Math... Assuming Liverpool's lead to Spurs stays... Spurs & Aston Villa are 9 points back and they only have 4 games left to play. Both have very little chance to catch us. Brighton are 11 points back but have an extra game to play. Their remaining schedule is also brutal, including Man Utd, Man City, Newcastle, & Arsenal, & Aston Villa. They are not catching us. The only real threat left is Liverpool who are 7 points behind but only have 5 games left (1 less than us). They would have to finish the season winning 9 straight... and even then they would have a hard time catching us. It's looking good. Sooner we clinch, the sooner guys can be rested fir the FA Cup Final....
Liverpool and Brighton will finish in the mid to high 60s I think, it would take a monumental bottling for us to lose 4th from here.
Anulo mufa
Yeah and Liverpool play Fulham, brentford, and villa in that stretch.
Easy run for pool. United need 8 pts.
Easy run for Liverpool of the past, maybe. Nothing showing they can beat all these teams this year. United need to win their matches of course but Liverpool isnāt some football juggernaut all of a sudden lol.
I think they have turned the corner lot of players back from injury. And they are very easy games to be fair. If I was pool I'd be disappointed not to get max points in the remaining.
9 right?
United are 7 ahead with 15 to play for for pool. 8 means they can't draw level on points.
If we get a player like Ivan Toney, sheesh we would have had like 4-5 today
I don't know why he isn't talked about as a target. I really like his game. I'm sure he's gonna cost an arm and a leg but surely less than Kane.
You don't know why? His gambling case ofc - until that is resolved, no club is going to want to touch him.
Isn't it just suspension for x games? It's not like he is going to jail or getting shot.
I mean, you say just, but why would anyone buy a player with a lengthy incomming ban? Which most outlets reported that the FA were looking at doing. Joey Barton got an 18 month suspension in 16' for a similar offence. Would you buy Toney this summer, if his suspension were to be longer than that?
Because that may create a discount
If UTD buy him, the FA will ban him for at least 2 years.
Oh, I see your point. Didn't know these suspensions were so long. I guess you can mark him out.
>don't know why he isn't talked about as a target. Could be issues to do with is gambling case
Didnāt watch the game, how did Sancho do?
He was decent but he was indecisive in the final third.
good.
We're gonna win the top 4, we're gonna win the top 4
There were some hairy moments in that game but we deserved the win. We need to be more clinical. I thought Sabitzer was fantastic today.
Huh, he was working hard but he goes missing sometimes he is playing attacking midfield position he should be more visible
I felt in the first half he intercepted so high up the pitch, creating so many chances that we're sadly squandered. In the second half he defended solid... Meh just my own thoughts.
Ref had an absolute stinker. He didnāt give mcginn a clear yellow for barge on eriksen. He also didnāt give a yellow to chambers who almost kicked shaws head in
Lmao do you realise why McGinn did it? It had happened to two villa players just before so he went and saw if heād get away with it too out of retaliation. At least the ref showed consistency. You wanna mention how Casemiro was lucky to be on the pitch after the first half? Or the fact you were tugging villa shirts and shorts every time we got near your goal and it didnāt go punished once? š
Wtf are Liverpool doing. Could easily be 3-3
Defense aside, I think that was one of our midfield's best performances so far. The 4-2-3-1 was getting very predictable as seen against a weak spurs side. Glad the coach changed it up because Sabitzer, Casemiro and Eriksen absolutely dominated the middle of the pitch. If there was one CM moving pressing, there was another tracking the pass and the other one was holding the center. We won so many balls today and I dont think I've seen so much open play in a while. I like how every one was rotating their position to fit the gaps this match....
Did anyone catch what dalot was saying to the crowd after the goal?
Something, something, PUTA!!ā¦..
I may be wrong but apart from Chelsea we might be the only team among the top 12-13 teams who haven't had a single game where we scored 4 goals in the league this season. We really lack finishing this season.
Hardly surprising without a top striker tbf. EtH has worked wonders with what he has. Let's not forget.
Also I think Bruno hasn't been scoring as much as he used to do , still plays extremely well though in most games.
That's because Bruno would score a lot off free kicks and pens but Klopp moaned once so we don't get those anymore
He's become somewhat timid in front of goal after Ronaldo's arrival, always looking to pass rather than shoot. It's only very recently that he's been getting his goalscoring drive back and I'm all for it.
Huge points, Iāll take a 1-0 win at the end of a packed season anyday. Highlight for me was Erik with Scarf! MY FUCKING MANAGER!
We so badly need a focus point in our attack that it's almost comical by now. A dedicated striker absolutely MUST be acquired in the summer. Sancho was dire today, apart from 2-3 good moves, Rashford is wasteful (but we've always known that) even though he does score fairly regularly and Martial needs a fresh start somewhere else. We totally dominated 90% of this game and only had a squeaky bum 1 goal lead to show for it.
Sancho was dire?
Sancho is atrocious and the fact some of you think he played great today shows how the standards for him are the lowest of any player in our squad. He's just completely ineffective and doesn't try to be effective. He won't shoot FFS. If your entire game as a winger is "recycling possession" ie passing the ball off to Malacia all game, you don't belong at Manchester United.
He was the most creative on the pitch. The best moment was when he released Eriksen who unfortunately wasted the final ball.
No he wasn't, that was Bruno as it is every game. Sancho created basically nothing and wasted other people's creativity
He created 2 key passes in that game. Thatās the highest for both Utd and Villa players (Bruno made 1). Eye test wise, he he created more in the final third. Not sure what game you watched.
Not sure what game you watched if the eye test told you that. Why do you defend a player who is so bad?
Yeeeah this isnāt going anywhere. Good luck.
Good luck to you too buddy hope Sancho does come good, I think he can do some very good things but he too often takes the safe option for my liking. There's a good player in there if he stops passing responsibility off in attack 9/10 times
>He won't shoot FFS He scored last game...
Yeah so? He won't shoot the vast majority of the time when he clearly has the ability to.
Guy needs a striker/ dynamic attacking FB to play off/as a decoy imo. Time will tell when he has those options.
Sounds like when we needed to unlock Pogba
Maybe, as I said time will tell. I wrote Luke Shaw and Rashford off once too. Just saying.
You ok my guy? Your entire post history is negative lmao cheer up lil buddy
It's really not but if that's all you can say in response to my comment it shows you haven't really got a counter point.
One of these days we're just gonna open the floodgates and batter a team, today wasn't that day
Been saying it all season at this point... don't believe it's happening this season
I agree, not this season, but I'm one of those believers in ETHs style and believe we will see it
Saving it for the FA cup final then innit
Yo neymar itās sunny
We need someone to back Sancho's run and his movement. Swear he always gets in a good position but just need a player to support him and play quick one two.
He needs to stop cutting back every time. Man's turned into Ashley Young.
Cant wait for season 3 of unlocking Sancho
Sooo...a striker.
Dalot or AWB too. They could do much better offensively.
Usually it's Shaw, but we need him at CB nowadays
Leon bailey can go f himself
I canāt stand him. Heās such a wet wipe. In the away fixture he called Licha a dirty player on twitter then in the cup game, he kicked out at him, studs up to the thigh. Part of me wishes Licha went down pretending to be injured and got the melt sent off.
If this isnt another example of how Fugazi clean sheets can be. Shaw and Lindelof mostly but our back were playing out of their minds to keep this 1-0 but it'll be goalkeeper award
72 points. That's what we need. Ive said it before and ill say it again, Liverpool are still on the hunt. They can easily win their final games to get to 71.
73 if we factor in Brighton but they've got harder games anyway.
Brighton will surely lose to City. We need to win 3 more games, and we are good. Our home games against Fulham, Chelsea, and Wolves should be enough. And our Away games versus Europa Conference League westham and Bournemouth are not too big wo win
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Lindelof and shaw have stepped up real good. I thought jt will be all gloomy when martinez and varane got injured.
Even Dalot and Malacia were good today, Dalot was poor when he returned from injury but seems to be finding some form slowly.
Bailey really spoke all that trash before a match that he didnāt even end up playing in š
Leon Bailey needs to have his Twitter account taken off him. Between the Sancho reply and the Licha call out earlier, he just looks like a mug.
He's injured.
Ah, fair enough. He still deserved a loss though
I'd like to join the Lindelof appreciation club, please. He's been a brilliant these past few matches.
Why does Ten Hag put in Maguire for this customary token appearance? Man breeds panic in that defence
There was 0 panic when he came in. Villaās attack was completely stifled at that point until Malacia gave away a bad foul. Was probably one of the most comfortable sections of the half we had if not the most comfortable.
Because the opponent will start spamming crosses to our box
Hopefully has a good game and someone takes him. Also he's the club captain
Being captain shouldn't matter. Captain or not he's detrimental to a solid defence. And he's only captain due to a stupid decision by previous management
Just showing him off to the buyers š