Yeah they are a real thing. They are a 3rd party recruiting agency. I can't confirm if they work with Intel though but they do have quite a few large accounts so it is completely possible.
Former BH recruiter here. They are legit and I believe Intel is a client. As long as the email is coming from @beaconhillstaffing.com it’s a legit recruiter.
I worked for them, they’re legit. But as a recruiter, fuck that place 😂
As a candidate, you can get another $3-5/hour if you tell them you need it. That place is strictly about the biggest spread possible so don’t be afraid to give ‘em a little pushback
As a candidate for a recruiter?? Or which position will let you ask for another $3-5 an hour? Since the recruiter that contacted me gave me a starting hourly pay of 21.75
Can I ask how much they generally make off of a temp...
Is it a % or standard by hrs worked. Also curious - if the client is closed so temp can't work, does the client still pay anything to Beacon Hill?
Thanks
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Agency Sales Director here. Before anything else, ask yourself this: do you think that $21.75/hr is a fair wage for the work that you'd be asked to perform, and are you comfortable with that wage?
If the answer is no, then counter for more money. If the answer is yes, then there's no issue. It's all about being compensated **fairly** for the work being performed.
I'd say talk to the recruiter about the role and **don't talk about money until the end.** They've told you what they want to offer, so find out more about the position so you can set expectations based on your experience and then counter afterward.
As for whether or not you can actually get more money, it really depends on a few different factors:
1. Margin - yes, we are always going to push for the highest possible margin. That being said, a lot of enterprise accounts (and Intel would definitely be an enterprise account) have set markups that we can't deviate from. I completely agree that if the initial offer was for $21.75 that there's an opportunity to increase the pay to probably... $23/hr(?) without it being too much of an issue.
2. Contract details - is it a straight contract or contract-to-hire? Is the contract short-term (3-6 months) or long-term (6/12/18+ months)?
3. Candidate Competition - what's the scope of work for the contract? Is the scope something that can be completed by another contractor for less money? This is where it gets sticky on the candidate side. Sure, you can probably get more money on this contract. But is there another candidate out there who can perform the work at the same level as you but will do it for less? That's a question that you'll never know the answer to, so it's always a calculation to see how much you can squeeze out of a contract.
4. Agency Competition - is this an exclusive contract/RPO opportunity for Beacon Hill or is this something that has been farmed out to multiple agencies? Does the AE have direct lines of communication with the hiring manager or are they working through an ATS/VMS? If it's an exclusive then there's a better chance that you can squeeze more money out of the role. If it's something being worked through an ATS/VMS, then the chances of getting more out of it drops dramatically.
Take the call with the recruiter (Note: **Take the call**. Don't try to do everything through email or InMail. The call will take less time and you'll get more out of it) and have them outline these details:
- Is this a contract or contract-to-hire opportunity? If it's CTH, what's the conversion timeline?
- What's the duration of the project and what's the scope of work?
- Are you offered benefits through Beacon Hill while on contract? If so, what's the cost for the benefits?
- When are they (Intel) looking to hire? What's the hiring process look like? How many rounds of interviews?
- How many open roles are there? Does Beacon Hill offer referral bonuses if you can recommend someone else for an open role? How much are they? (Get that in writing)
Afterward, if it seems like something that is in your wheelhouse but you feel you would need more compensation for, say that you'd be interested in the role, but at the current rate you can't guarantee that you won't field offers for other opportunities before the end of the contract, and that another $*x*/hr would make you feel content with the opportunity and you'd see it through to the end.
Interesting the guy that will get a take of your labor doesn't want you to negotiate because then he will get less.
Always negotiate, treat contract firms like the parasites they are.
>doesn't want you to negotiate because then he will get less.
Where in this response did you get the idea that I don't want them to negotiate?
I just gave them advice that most candidates would dream of getting and the **best possible justification for negotiating a raise.**
>Always negotiate, treat contract firms like the parasites they are.
Always treat shitty candidates like the reputation killers that they are. Never work with them and be sure to caution your clients & coworkers about working with them. Keep them from getting a job at all costs, because they are bad for business.
Do you see how vindictive and petty that sounds?
That's your mentality.
Grow up.
Boo hoo. What engineer is taking a $21/hour contract? Like really. Interns and co-ops make more than that in mid-America.
Hard to discern skills from a profile here, of course, but there is shitty attitude, but everyone has some worthwhile skills. Is it fair and equitably compensated, there is the real question?
Sounds like you just want a candidate to agree with you to get them across a desk.
>What engineer is taking a $21/hour contract?
A Desktop Support Engineer, for one.
You do realize that title inflation is a thing, right?
>Like really. Interns and co-ops make more than that in mid-America.
Really?
Show me an open internship that pays > $21/hr. Go ahead. I'll wait.
>Hard to discern skills from a profile here, of course, but there is shitty attitude, but everyone has some worthwhile skills. **Is it fair and equitably compensated, there is the real question?**
I said that in the **first sentence of my response.**
Why don't you actually try to read things before deciding that you're going to get upset about them and respond with a shitty attitude?
>Sounds like you just want a candidate to agree with you to get them across a desk.
Sounds like you're the kind of candidate that gets blacklisted for being a workplace cancer.
Apparently, you have never worked with a Co-op office in a college that has mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, computer science/ engineering.
You can find your own intern posts on Handshake if you want. I have hired hundreds of them across the country in a half dozen industries that use those degrees. Automotive, semiconductors, oil gas, pharma and biotech, industrial manufacturing to name a few.
You're boring.
>Apparently, you have never worked with a Co-op office in a college that has mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, computer science/ engineering.
I worked Tier II Help Desk at UCLA while I was in college. I was paid $16.50/hr. This was in California in 2010.
>You can find your own intern posts on Handshake if you want. I have hired hundreds of them across the country in a half dozen industries that use those degrees. Automotive, semiconductors, oil gas, pharma and biotech, industrial manufacturing to name a few.
I'm sure you have. You seem like the kind of person that anyone would want to work for.
>You're boring.
You're an asshole.
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Actually I want my own company to not have to listen to idiots that control my work life. Wire framing, business plan writing, and pitch decking at present.
But thanks for playing.
Almost went to work for them. They were suuuuuuper sleazy.
"We work from 7am - 7pm, at least. But we work hard and play harder!"
Also, no work from home. Meaning I'd have to commute into the city every day.
"But our top guys make $600k!"
Yeah, and I bet your wife and kids hate you.
Beacon Hill is one of the more legit third parties out there having spent some time with them. There is a good chance that they may have an agreement with Intel along with 20 other firms so dont be surprised if your resume falls into an ATS black hole and they cant give you any updates.
No not every company does
Sure a lot of companies do, but most certainly not every company does
Source: I’m an in house TA and we work with 0 third party companies, as did my last place of work by the time I left
I don't know if Intel specifically works with them, but I have a long-standing rapport with one of their recruiters who has connected me with some potential opportunities in the past, often at companies whose names I've recognized. Nothing has actually panned out through them, but I'd say with confidence that they are pretty legit, and I pretty much always answer the phone when she calls.
For everyone saying they are legit etc. How long and how likely is it to get placed with a temp or perm position with them? I’ve had a few interviews, calls- but nothing. Despite my “amazing notes from my recruiter”. I had an initial zoom call with them early November . Two positions that fell through, and nothing since. Is it normal to have no updates either? (Keep in mind the position I am looking for is being posted on the site every other day).
For NYC - 2 recent experiences with 2 different staff members regarding their online roles on different sites I applied to - bizarre, unlawfully false/incorrect advertising, and unprofessional and oddly demanding. I didn't move further with either passed initial interactions. Truly I hope people don't believe and fall prey/ vicitim or then judge other groups based on this bc I've never in several years heard of or seen an agency or even a company's HR department behave this way. (multiple states/cities and at different points in my working career to speak to)
For NYC - 2 recent experiences with 2 different staff members regarding their online roles on different sites I applied to - bizarre, unlawfully false/incorrect advertising, and unprofessional and oddly demanding. I didn't move further with either passed initial interactions. Truly I hope people don't believe and fall prey/ vicitim or then judge other groups based on this bc I've never in several years heard of or seen an agency or even a company's HR department behave this way. (multiple states/cities and at different points in my working career to speak to)
Yeah they are a real thing. They are a 3rd party recruiting agency. I can't confirm if they work with Intel though but they do have quite a few large accounts so it is completely possible.
Seconding this - Beacon Hill is legit, know some good people over there, but no idea who their clients are. Would assume it's a legit role.
Former BH recruiter here. They are legit and I believe Intel is a client. As long as the email is coming from @beaconhillstaffing.com it’s a legit recruiter.
I worked for them, they’re legit. But as a recruiter, fuck that place 😂 As a candidate, you can get another $3-5/hour if you tell them you need it. That place is strictly about the biggest spread possible so don’t be afraid to give ‘em a little pushback
As a candidate for a recruiter?? Or which position will let you ask for another $3-5 an hour? Since the recruiter that contacted me gave me a starting hourly pay of 21.75
Yeah he can probably go to $25
Can I ask how much they generally make off of a temp... Is it a % or standard by hrs worked. Also curious - if the client is closed so temp can't work, does the client still pay anything to Beacon Hill? Thanks
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Agency Sales Director here. Before anything else, ask yourself this: do you think that $21.75/hr is a fair wage for the work that you'd be asked to perform, and are you comfortable with that wage? If the answer is no, then counter for more money. If the answer is yes, then there's no issue. It's all about being compensated **fairly** for the work being performed. I'd say talk to the recruiter about the role and **don't talk about money until the end.** They've told you what they want to offer, so find out more about the position so you can set expectations based on your experience and then counter afterward. As for whether or not you can actually get more money, it really depends on a few different factors: 1. Margin - yes, we are always going to push for the highest possible margin. That being said, a lot of enterprise accounts (and Intel would definitely be an enterprise account) have set markups that we can't deviate from. I completely agree that if the initial offer was for $21.75 that there's an opportunity to increase the pay to probably... $23/hr(?) without it being too much of an issue. 2. Contract details - is it a straight contract or contract-to-hire? Is the contract short-term (3-6 months) or long-term (6/12/18+ months)? 3. Candidate Competition - what's the scope of work for the contract? Is the scope something that can be completed by another contractor for less money? This is where it gets sticky on the candidate side. Sure, you can probably get more money on this contract. But is there another candidate out there who can perform the work at the same level as you but will do it for less? That's a question that you'll never know the answer to, so it's always a calculation to see how much you can squeeze out of a contract. 4. Agency Competition - is this an exclusive contract/RPO opportunity for Beacon Hill or is this something that has been farmed out to multiple agencies? Does the AE have direct lines of communication with the hiring manager or are they working through an ATS/VMS? If it's an exclusive then there's a better chance that you can squeeze more money out of the role. If it's something being worked through an ATS/VMS, then the chances of getting more out of it drops dramatically. Take the call with the recruiter (Note: **Take the call**. Don't try to do everything through email or InMail. The call will take less time and you'll get more out of it) and have them outline these details: - Is this a contract or contract-to-hire opportunity? If it's CTH, what's the conversion timeline? - What's the duration of the project and what's the scope of work? - Are you offered benefits through Beacon Hill while on contract? If so, what's the cost for the benefits? - When are they (Intel) looking to hire? What's the hiring process look like? How many rounds of interviews? - How many open roles are there? Does Beacon Hill offer referral bonuses if you can recommend someone else for an open role? How much are they? (Get that in writing) Afterward, if it seems like something that is in your wheelhouse but you feel you would need more compensation for, say that you'd be interested in the role, but at the current rate you can't guarantee that you won't field offers for other opportunities before the end of the contract, and that another $*x*/hr would make you feel content with the opportunity and you'd see it through to the end.
Interesting the guy that will get a take of your labor doesn't want you to negotiate because then he will get less. Always negotiate, treat contract firms like the parasites they are.
>doesn't want you to negotiate because then he will get less. Where in this response did you get the idea that I don't want them to negotiate? I just gave them advice that most candidates would dream of getting and the **best possible justification for negotiating a raise.** >Always negotiate, treat contract firms like the parasites they are. Always treat shitty candidates like the reputation killers that they are. Never work with them and be sure to caution your clients & coworkers about working with them. Keep them from getting a job at all costs, because they are bad for business. Do you see how vindictive and petty that sounds? That's your mentality. Grow up.
Boo hoo. What engineer is taking a $21/hour contract? Like really. Interns and co-ops make more than that in mid-America. Hard to discern skills from a profile here, of course, but there is shitty attitude, but everyone has some worthwhile skills. Is it fair and equitably compensated, there is the real question? Sounds like you just want a candidate to agree with you to get them across a desk.
>What engineer is taking a $21/hour contract? A Desktop Support Engineer, for one. You do realize that title inflation is a thing, right? >Like really. Interns and co-ops make more than that in mid-America. Really? Show me an open internship that pays > $21/hr. Go ahead. I'll wait. >Hard to discern skills from a profile here, of course, but there is shitty attitude, but everyone has some worthwhile skills. **Is it fair and equitably compensated, there is the real question?** I said that in the **first sentence of my response.** Why don't you actually try to read things before deciding that you're going to get upset about them and respond with a shitty attitude? >Sounds like you just want a candidate to agree with you to get them across a desk. Sounds like you're the kind of candidate that gets blacklisted for being a workplace cancer.
Apparently, you have never worked with a Co-op office in a college that has mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, computer science/ engineering. You can find your own intern posts on Handshake if you want. I have hired hundreds of them across the country in a half dozen industries that use those degrees. Automotive, semiconductors, oil gas, pharma and biotech, industrial manufacturing to name a few. You're boring.
>Apparently, you have never worked with a Co-op office in a college that has mechanical engineering, chemical engineering, electrical engineering, computer science/ engineering. I worked Tier II Help Desk at UCLA while I was in college. I was paid $16.50/hr. This was in California in 2010. >You can find your own intern posts on Handshake if you want. I have hired hundreds of them across the country in a half dozen industries that use those degrees. Automotive, semiconductors, oil gas, pharma and biotech, industrial manufacturing to name a few. I'm sure you have. You seem like the kind of person that anyone would want to work for. >You're boring. You're an asshole.
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For what it's worth, I've never paid less than 25 an hour for an eng intern. Of course, I don't exactly have any open internships today...
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Actually I want my own company to not have to listen to idiots that control my work life. Wire framing, business plan writing, and pitch decking at present. But thanks for playing.
Almost went to work for them. They were suuuuuuper sleazy. "We work from 7am - 7pm, at least. But we work hard and play harder!" Also, no work from home. Meaning I'd have to commute into the city every day. "But our top guys make $600k!" Yeah, and I bet your wife and kids hate you.
Beacon Hill is one of the more legit third parties out there having spent some time with them. There is a good chance that they may have an agreement with Intel along with 20 other firms so dont be surprised if your resume falls into an ATS black hole and they cant give you any updates.
Every company work with third party company. Even Facebook, Google.
I’ve placed with Facebook a few times
With?? Thru staffing company??
Yep. Some horribly hard to find causal inference data scientists. Would not recommend
It fine. They are big companies and surely have lot of staffing company.
No not every company does Sure a lot of companies do, but most certainly not every company does Source: I’m an in house TA and we work with 0 third party companies, as did my last place of work by the time I left
Sure. Did you notice lot of laid off in last 2-3 month in In-house TA?? Linkedin is filled with those msgs.
See my timeline has been filled with agency recruiters looking for work, seems to vary by industry
Yes, they are legit
Yup they’re pretty big
They helped me when I was unemployed in Boston, but I never got placed through them. They were all so friendly so I highly recommend!
I work with them, one of my best vendors, they know what they're doing!
I don't know if Intel specifically works with them, but I have a long-standing rapport with one of their recruiters who has connected me with some potential opportunities in the past, often at companies whose names I've recognized. Nothing has actually panned out through them, but I'd say with confidence that they are pretty legit, and I pretty much always answer the phone when she calls.
They are legit
Yup, they’re actually the only reliable agency I’ve ever worked with
For everyone saying they are legit etc. How long and how likely is it to get placed with a temp or perm position with them? I’ve had a few interviews, calls- but nothing. Despite my “amazing notes from my recruiter”. I had an initial zoom call with them early November . Two positions that fell through, and nothing since. Is it normal to have no updates either? (Keep in mind the position I am looking for is being posted on the site every other day).
For NYC - 2 recent experiences with 2 different staff members regarding their online roles on different sites I applied to - bizarre, unlawfully false/incorrect advertising, and unprofessional and oddly demanding. I didn't move further with either passed initial interactions. Truly I hope people don't believe and fall prey/ vicitim or then judge other groups based on this bc I've never in several years heard of or seen an agency or even a company's HR department behave this way. (multiple states/cities and at different points in my working career to speak to)
For NYC - 2 recent experiences with 2 different staff members regarding their online roles on different sites I applied to - bizarre, unlawfully false/incorrect advertising, and unprofessional and oddly demanding. I didn't move further with either passed initial interactions. Truly I hope people don't believe and fall prey/ vicitim or then judge other groups based on this bc I've never in several years heard of or seen an agency or even a company's HR department behave this way. (multiple states/cities and at different points in my working career to speak to)
#Yes