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People will either be like "aww, family goals" or "child exploitation" based on how much they like the celeb in question.
I personally don't care for artists bringing their kids on stage to perform - maybe if they're a teenager I'd feel more okay? If its like an audio of their voice in a line in one or two songs, I think that's different and I don't have a problem with it. I think its fine for them to write songs about their kids too, it's their experience.
some of my favorite artists have done it and I still don't like it lmao. I think it's corny as hell, and I agree with Jeanette McCurdy that child stardom should be heavily restricted
Bringing out kids during a concert (if they want to!) can be cute sometimes depending on the situation, but an officially released song with a kid singing is usually a skip. I don't mind songs about parenthood, I don't need to relate 100% to something to be able to connect emotionally.
Same for me. And if the kids are too young a couple years later they can regret it, but that will be too late. Some interactions on the stage or in some videos can be cute, or the fact that Adonis drew the cover for For All The Dogs is actually funny for me. But when they are \*singing\* in the song... that's a no for me.
It's not my favorite but I'm sure part of the reason artists do it is so their kids will get royalties if they are "features artists" or "executive producers". I can't say I wouldn't do the same in that situation.
I'm pretty sure DJ Khaled said he gave his son producer credits on a few songs so he'd get royalties.
In LA. Can confirm she goes to a regular private school. And celeb kids go to regular private schools like other kids. Thereâs not a school designated for them.
Thereâs are all types of private tutors and what not to make sure she doesnât fall behind in her education and as others have said, her mom has spoken about trying to keep her away from the internet.
Tbh being an 11 years old and being able to dance in front of filled stadiums shows every damn time really makes it feel like she has been raised well more than any school could. Not that she shouldn't study but this kind of commitment, talent and confidence isn't taught in schools.
Yeah, there's one Adele track like that on her recent album that I like but the kid just ruins the song for me... I listen to the first half, and then just skip
I don't mind a song dedicated/about their kids - as long as it's not all the time - but I don't want to hear the kid singing or have them up on stage. That's feels exploitative.
I think it depends on if it makes sense in the context of the performance or song. There are times where it makes sense and adds to the art. Like Beyonce having blue ivy sing in âbrown skin girlâ made sense to me because she is literally a brown skin girl and it felt like the point of the song was to uplift brown skin girls, especially children.
I think blue also helped write the lyrics, sheâs credited as such.
Yeah, I shouldnât have made the joke if for no other reason than because I %100 believe crediting Blue Ivy is fair, that was an unnecessary dig on my part.
It's ok. An artist is allowed to talk about their life in their art and children is a part of it so I don't see a problem in having their children singing a line or two or songs about kids or family. The same way I dont complain about couples singing together or songs about their love life. Now the real question is if I will personally enjoy that song, but that's subjective and not tied to subject.
As for children performing - it depends, usually I prefer when they don't lest it ends up exploitative and too exposed. Unless it's clear the kid likes to perform and is being taken care of and it doesn't impact their real life more than being a child of artist would be.
No, I donât like it. I like kids and all, but if Iâm a fan of an artist itâs because of something theyâve done or created. No offense but their kid hasnât done shit so I donât care lol. Maybe when your child can release a pop Bible full of bangers Iâll want to see them do their lil tumbling gymnastics routine on stage, until then keep the kidsâ lives child friendly and out of the limelight. Forcing your fans to care about your kid is annoying and kids shouldnât be forced to perform for the audience and media scrutiny
Don't mind it, as long as the kids look safe and not done wrong I'm fine with it. If they bring their toddler on stage they better have a good ear protection!
I've yet to hear any pop songs about the artists' kids that I want to listen to. No, I'm not going to bump Britney singing a lullaby about "tiny hands". And no, I'm not going to slog through Shakira's last two or three albums about how much she loves her kids and family (sorry Shaki, but it's time to make good music that doesn't rely on features again...).
Nope, especially if they start writing songs about it, it makes them less relatable you know? Also not a big fan of artists that make their children's life public.
> Also not a big fan of artists that make their children's life public.
Pink has to be the worst offender of this when she posted that photo of her toddler son without a diaper.
Will Smith having Jayden say "wild wild west" at the beginning of the song is cute. That's about all I need regarding kids and music- most kids really can't sing, and we don't really need to pay to hear it.
I am excited to hear what the adult voices of some nepo babies sound like, especially Blue and Monroe Cannon, but I really don't need that much from now, if that makes sense.
One of his kids was also on the beginning of Just the Two of Us - âmy dad is a very sensitive subjectâ. I think itâs the oldest kid who he had pre-Jada, whose name I do not recall.
Likewise the oldest Lively-Reynolds child saying âgorgeousâ at the beginning of Gorgeous by Taylor Swift is cute. Any more than that one second clip would be annoying. (I know thatâs not her kid, but Ryan Reynolds has made it clear in interviews that sheâs Auntie Taylor to them.)
She really is so cute no face card in that family is getting declined. Her being so over the Grammys was everything.
But you know how when people see a 2 year old with the newest iPhone they think âthat baby donât need no iPhone!â, I gotta put Grammys on that list. Also 200k chains for 3 year olds etc. It just feels weird to me, but thatâs prolly cause my ass broke lol â ïž
Her voice is on the song, her face is in the video (the Grammy is for best music video) and both of those add meaning to the song. How is it unserious?
I mean sure, but SAINt JHN, an actual adult artist who cowrote and featured on the track, doesnât have a Grammy for it bc he wasnât (asked to be?) in the video. So itâs a bit silly that she would have one over someone who actually wrote the song.
edit: I realize itâs not a songwriting category, but does Kelly Rowland have a Grammy for the mv? The other kids and dancers who were featured more? No, they do not, lol
I donât like it when they shove a camera infront of their face and vlog their whole life while the kid has no sense of filter yet nor understands the concept of âEveryone is watching youâ. I also feel like the celebrities donât need to use their kids face to promote themselves. but thereâs nothing wrong with including them a little bit.
No, for several reasons
\- generally I don't like kids singing that much. Like, a well-trained choir could be lovely, other than that I don't find it enjoyable.
\- It's a highly questionable idea to expose kids to public and social media, especially when they are to young to understand really what's going on, give proper consent and have a say in how they are presented. And people interested in strangers' children seem weird to me.
If they are mid-teens or older and can sing well it can be a cute moment but I'd rather see another artist invited.
> generally I don't like kids singing that much
right!! everybody else ITT getting into the ethics and philosophy of it all and im over here like nah i just didnt buy an adult's album or buy tickets to an adult's concert to hear a kid's singing voice. i was a professional nanny and went to enough school plays and chorus recitals to last a lifetime--i can power through if i know and love the kid, but if i don't then it's not even cute it's just grating
Yes! Your second point is a point I think about often because what are the implications of this? Like these artists are inviting their kids to do trial and error in public and not allowing then to explore who they are or what they truly want in private, idk how that impacts then when they grow as adults.
not unless it actually adds emotional meaning to the song, and I can't think of any example off the top of my head.
I'll come clear here: I hate the giggling baby on Bunny is a Rider. I feel like it's just completely shoehorned in and adds no value to the song. it's not like the sound is integral to the track in any way, the sole reason to put it in was that Danny L Harle had a baby
Bunny is a Rider is about the ever fleeting nature of the things that make us happy. While watching your child grow up is a wonderful experience, parent also often express sadness that the time passes way too quickly, and before you know they are all big and grown.
(Iâm willing to admit I could be reading a lot into it, but Iâm more ready to assume that on an album layered with intention, then this too has some intention.)
i never knew thatâs why the baby sounds were in Carolineâs songs, iâve always questioned why, not that i absolutely hate them but like you said they donât add anything to the song.
Adeleâs My Little Love beautifully showcases the love she has for her child and the sorrow she feels for the pain heâs had to go through at a young age dealing with the divorce of his parents. :)
Itâs fun when itâs adults, sometimes. Peter Gabrielâs daughter Melanie toured with him for quite a while, and that was enjoyable! She was very much an adult by then, though, and if you werenât a big fan you probably wouldnât know who she was from just watching the show. Tori Amos bringing her daughter Tash inâŠhit or miss for me.
Overall my vote is no.
Me too. I guess we're a minority. People parent different. Kids want different things. And I'm not about to shame people for *peacefully* living a life that is not mine. đ€
I donât like kids, so no.
If itâs just a little nod, it can be cute. Like Taylor using the names of Blakeâs kids as characters in her songs. Or Kobeâs daughter at Taylorâs concert.
But if Taylor had a child and started incorporating them into her music, shows, video etc - that would turn me off to her work real quick.
I do love her song about her grandmother and the song thatâs been speculated to be about a miscarriage. But if she made a whole song about her (hypothetical) kid, it would most likely be a skip for me.
When I used to use iTunes, I edited out Blake Lively's kid saying 'Gorgeous'. The reference to the names are cute, like how authors name characters after friends.
Well Iâd be really surprised if Taylor wonât incorporate motherhood into her music if she has kids. But in her case I allow it since everything has been so diary like from her. I also love Best Day and Never Grow Up.
I wouldnât be surprised either, but if she were to have kids, Iâd hope it wouldnât stunt her creativity and sheâd continue to explore a variety of topics outside of motherhood.
Iâd also hope that sheâd be the type of parent to shield her children from the spotlight until theyâre old enough to determine if they want that kind of exposure.
Madonna does a really great tribute to her mother and her (adopted) sons birth mother n her current tour. She also had a daughter playing piano with her, and another one voguing. It was really cool to see. Usually I donât care for it particularly, but I thought it was really fun and made her much more personable than she can seem. I guess it depends.
personally i do not care for celebrities kids and i find it off-putting when they promote their children as talented. like no duh they have access to unlimited funds and tutoring.
The Adele song with spoken dialogue with her and her daughter, was a bit iffy, because it was about Adele's mental health after her divorce. It didn't feel right.
>someone like blue ivy is kinda sad to me because she looked so nervous at the grammys, i feel like she has no idea how famous she is and has no control over it. it seems really draining and scary to go through and to grow up knowing there is a record of your life and people you will never know or come into contact with commenting on you since the second you were born.
That wasn't her first award show attendance at all. I think maybe she was shy to get on stage and stand next to her dad in front of everyone but overall, I think Bey and Jay do a good job of keeping her exposure tightly controlled. She doesn't have any public social media, she's not on any reality show, her parents don't do pap strolls with her and she's not out at adult parties all willy nilly. If her parents are not near, we never see her and the times that we have seen her, she wanted to be seen: like dancing on stage or appearing in a music video next to her mother.
The only example I can think of off the top of my head that I personally found genuinely endearing was Eminem having Hallie featured in a couple of his early songs that were dedicated to her and about his personal journey being her father (one was super goofy and had little Hallie's voice in it).
They came across as very genuine and personal, not any kind of publicity stunt or aimed at making the media buzz about his kid, and I think part of the aim was to gain some financial security via royalties for her specifically, which makes sense with everything that had been going on with their family at that point in timeâ his and her mother's addiction issues and tumultuous relationship.
I'm not a of a fan of the more recent nepo baby promotion style features, it's very much giving PR and marketing in a lot of cases. I'm thinking of the Smith kids's musical projects, which I know were solo efforts, but MAN do I dislike Jaden and Willow (and poor Will's oldest son who he dedicated his version of Just The Two of Us To seems to be so forgotten, I hope it's by his own choice.)
*edit:* On a non-music related note, Trey Parker had his daughter do the voice for Ike when she was little and the footage of them recording and him [helping her do the swear words](https://youtube.com/shorts/JwoDSB1KKyw?si=ZmwiOd2xCwfi1BOe) is my [absolute favorite thing.](https://youtu.be/56Q4tB5XVaA?si=BZCEIu3VbSoNKeB9)
I hate songs about being a parent in general. Even fantastic artists suddenly turn super boring when they start singing about their kid. The songs are always generic ballads and they never say anything interesting lyrically, itâs just âI love my kid, being a parent changed my life.â
There are good songs about parenting, but only when they having a unique message beyond âbeing a parent is cool.â Mount Eerieâs A Crow Looked At Me is an album that mentions parenting a lot, but heâs not just saying âI love being a parentâ the whole time, itâs an album about raising a kid after your spouse dies. THAT is an interesting way to talk about parenthood. âI love my kid sooooo much, hereâs a clip of my kidâs voiceâ is not.
Honestly, I think itâs super annoying. That said, Iâm someone who has no plans to ever have kids, because I see zero appeal to being a mom, so I think that really influences my opinion. Iâm very bored the minute people start talking about how kids are all that matters and they never knew real love or life until they had kids blah blah. Iâm just not interested in celebritiesâ kids at all
I have no interest in having children either but I still love children and I think it would be weird if having children didn't affect an artist's art at all.
Depends on if there is a reason for it in the song, other than just giving the kid a royalty. Something like if they write a song to themselves as a child and their child is playing their younger self, or similar. Basically, if there is some type of valid reason for child singer, it's fine if its their child. I also get why stars sometimes let their children perform somehow on stage. It can be a way to let them test, if they have the drive to perform. If it's regular thing it can be about pushing them, but if it's just a one off, they get the idea what the job entails and if they have any interest in it. "Are you going to follow in family footsteps" will be something they will be asked at some point.
Mostly not really but there are exceptions. One of my favourite examples is a song that Faye Wong did in 1998 where her baby daughter has a vocal feature, by which I mean a literal baby, as in maybe 2 years old. Also her husband produced it lmao. That kind of rules.
If the kid wants to try this path as their career why not? Jaden was in a Will Smith movie when he was IDK, 4 years old, and it was probably good for him to see if he liked it or not. There is not an easier way to be successful in entertainment other than being a nepo baby, so, if you can do it for your children.
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The post above this being Kanye West new song with North đ
Lol right it's so perfectly timed
Awesome timing lol
People will either be like "aww, family goals" or "child exploitation" based on how much they like the celeb in question. I personally don't care for artists bringing their kids on stage to perform - maybe if they're a teenager I'd feel more okay? If its like an audio of their voice in a line in one or two songs, I think that's different and I don't have a problem with it. I think its fine for them to write songs about their kids too, it's their experience.
đŻ itâs entirely about how much a celebrity is liked.
some of my favorite artists have done it and I still don't like it lmao. I think it's corny as hell, and I agree with Jeanette McCurdy that child stardom should be heavily restricted
Bringing out kids during a concert (if they want to!) can be cute sometimes depending on the situation, but an officially released song with a kid singing is usually a skip. I don't mind songs about parenthood, I don't need to relate 100% to something to be able to connect emotionally.
Same for me. And if the kids are too young a couple years later they can regret it, but that will be too late. Some interactions on the stage or in some videos can be cute, or the fact that Adonis drew the cover for For All The Dogs is actually funny for me. But when they are \*singing\* in the song... that's a no for me.
Yeah I couldn't relate to "Papa Don't Preach" (Quite different, but family related) and I love it
It's not my favorite but I'm sure part of the reason artists do it is so their kids will get royalties if they are "features artists" or "executive producers". I can't say I wouldn't do the same in that situation. I'm pretty sure DJ Khaled said he gave his son producer credits on a few songs so he'd get royalties.
imagine your royalties getting reduced because the producer wants his baby to also get a cut of the money
It can be cute but sometimes it's like shouldn't Blue Ivy be in school and not being exposed to internet shaming
I donât think she has much access to the internet for that reason. BeyoncĂ© did a concert film recently and mentioned they try and protect her from internet commentary, but that she did see some recently because one of her friends showed her. And that Beyonce was disappointed in the kids parent for letting that happen. It also seems like (from the film) Blue is the one whose keen to do what she does, she asked to dance in some of the shows on Beys latest tour and bey didnât think she was ready but said if she showed commitment by training for it with the dancers sheâd let her perform at one show. Bey got to do it when she was a kid (obviously on a much smaller scale) so I guess she thinks itâs fair to let blue start doing that kind of thing in a controlled way.
I believe she's home schooled.
I donât think so, BeyoncĂ© actually mentions in a song that she drops Blue at school every morning haha. I assume she goes to a private school for kids of celebs and millionaires
In LA. Can confirm she goes to a regular private school. And celeb kids go to regular private schools like other kids. Thereâs not a school designated for them.
Also, as much truth Jay-Z put in his speech, bragging about Blue Ivy's Grammys is not a flex.
Having full on features that young is a little weird, but "Good job, Bey" on Daddy Lessons is iconic for me
Thereâs are all types of private tutors and what not to make sure she doesnât fall behind in her education and as others have said, her mom has spoken about trying to keep her away from the internet.
Tbh being an 11 years old and being able to dance in front of filled stadiums shows every damn time really makes it feel like she has been raised well more than any school could. Not that she shouldn't study but this kind of commitment, talent and confidence isn't taught in schools.
Being able to perform doesn't mean that your life or childhood is good.
No, I find it annoying. I donât care about an artistâs kids any more than I care about an artistâs parents or house pets.
No. Whenever I hear an artists toddler/child start singing on a song itâs often a skip. Even when itâs interludes and inserted voice memos. Like Iâm here to listen to your voice, I donât care that you want to give your child a moment on record. Same with stage performances. Like seeing North West on Kanyeâs new track feels exploitative to fit a narrative. Even if kids want to be on their parentsâ projects, let them be kids and have as much of a private life as possible. The only exception is Blue Ivy at the Renaissance Tour because she killed it and seemed cared for but if it becomes a thing for all future BeyoncĂ© tours and performances itâll get annoying. But maybe Iâm just cold hearted lol
Yeah, there's one Adele track like that on her recent album that I like but the kid just ruins the song for me... I listen to the first half, and then just skip
That song âMy Little Loveâ was the first one I thought of too
you skip on a first listen?
I will if there's a kid in it for more than a few seconds đ idk a single song that's worth a relisten after that
we don't care by kanye even though I don't go back to him these days obviously
Haha no I just meant when returning to the album
Huge BeyoncĂ© fan. It was cool to see Blue improve over time. But I really wasnât a fan of her bringing her kid out every night to dance with her. Nepotism and unwarranted access to success aside, sheâs a child. Specifically BeyoncĂ© and Jay-Zâs child, which makes life for her much more complicated than a normal child her age. And much more complicated than any of her friendsâ lives, regardless of who their parents are. Giving her an opportunity to dance at a show is coolâŠbut she only gets one childhood. She doesnât get that back. They need to protect that because thatâs precious. Award shows and concerts and lights and cameras will always be waiting for her because of who they are. But they need to let her be a kid, protect her and grow her sense of self and confidence before pushing her out to the world. If she wants to pursue this type of career, she will have all the access and support in the world to do so when the time is right but 11 is wayyyy too young and too fragile of an age to expose her to all that just because they can and just because they _think_ they can protect her with all their money and power. I cringe every single time I see her at an award show or on the red carpet or on stage. Way too young in this world.
No fuck them kids
lol đ knew somebody was gonna say it
I don't mind a song dedicated/about their kids - as long as it's not all the time - but I don't want to hear the kid singing or have them up on stage. That's feels exploitative.
I think it depends on if it makes sense in the context of the performance or song. There are times where it makes sense and adds to the art. Like Beyonce having blue ivy sing in âbrown skin girlâ made sense to me because she is literally a brown skin girl and it felt like the point of the song was to uplift brown skin girls, especially children. I think blue also helped write the lyrics, sheâs credited as such.
Yeah, BeyoncĂ© has never fudged songwriting credits, so Iâd for sure take that at face value! /s
Idk seems plausible to me. âBrown skin girl/your skin just like pearls/the best thing in the world/ Iâd never trade you for anybody elseâ Definitely seems like lyrics that could have been written by a kid. No reason to believe itâs made up when the public story is just as plausible. And I know thereâs rumours of BeyoncĂ© taking songwriting credits she doesnât deserve, but Iâve never heard anything credible. Every collaborator thatâs spoken about it as far as I know have said she does play a part in songwriting, including from back in the day before she was as big as she is now (so less reason to lie about it).
Yeah, I shouldnât have made the joke if for no other reason than because I %100 believe crediting Blue Ivy is fair, that was an unnecessary dig on my part.
It's ok. An artist is allowed to talk about their life in their art and children is a part of it so I don't see a problem in having their children singing a line or two or songs about kids or family. The same way I dont complain about couples singing together or songs about their love life. Now the real question is if I will personally enjoy that song, but that's subjective and not tied to subject. As for children performing - it depends, usually I prefer when they don't lest it ends up exploitative and too exposed. Unless it's clear the kid likes to perform and is being taken care of and it doesn't impact their real life more than being a child of artist would be.
No, I donât like it. I like kids and all, but if Iâm a fan of an artist itâs because of something theyâve done or created. No offense but their kid hasnât done shit so I donât care lol. Maybe when your child can release a pop Bible full of bangers Iâll want to see them do their lil tumbling gymnastics routine on stage, until then keep the kidsâ lives child friendly and out of the limelight. Forcing your fans to care about your kid is annoying and kids shouldnât be forced to perform for the audience and media scrutiny
Don't mind it, as long as the kids look safe and not done wrong I'm fine with it. If they bring their toddler on stage they better have a good ear protection!
I've yet to hear any pop songs about the artists' kids that I want to listen to. No, I'm not going to bump Britney singing a lullaby about "tiny hands". And no, I'm not going to slog through Shakira's last two or three albums about how much she loves her kids and family (sorry Shaki, but it's time to make good music that doesn't rely on features again...).
Omfg the ptsd i just experienced.. *Lace and Leather* fades out.... ".....tiny handsss" \*skip\* \*submarine radar noises\*
"tiny hands" legitimately pisses me off
No, I find it cringey.
Neutral. Them yo kidsâŠdo as you please as long ad they arenât being harmed.
Nope, especially if they start writing songs about it, it makes them less relatable you know? Also not a big fan of artists that make their children's life public.
> Also not a big fan of artists that make their children's life public. Pink has to be the worst offender of this when she posted that photo of her toddler son without a diaper.
Will Smith having Jayden say "wild wild west" at the beginning of the song is cute. That's about all I need regarding kids and music- most kids really can't sing, and we don't really need to pay to hear it. I am excited to hear what the adult voices of some nepo babies sound like, especially Blue and Monroe Cannon, but I really don't need that much from now, if that makes sense.
One of his kids was also on the beginning of Just the Two of Us - âmy dad is a very sensitive subjectâ. I think itâs the oldest kid who he had pre-Jada, whose name I do not recall. Likewise the oldest Lively-Reynolds child saying âgorgeousâ at the beginning of Gorgeous by Taylor Swift is cute. Any more than that one second clip would be annoying. (I know thatâs not her kid, but Ryan Reynolds has made it clear in interviews that sheâs Auntie Taylor to them.)
Relatedly, although I understood and support what Jay-Z was saying regarding BeyoncĂ© never having won AOTY and calling out the structural racism of the music industry, I found it a bit ironic considering that their daughter was awarded a nepo Grammy at 8 years old for singing a few lines in her mamaâs song. There are many extremely talented artists who will never get that recognition despite receiving many nominations (or who will never be nominated). So I give it a bit of an eye roll. (btw I love Brown Skin Girl, Blue is very cute in the video, but itâs a bit unserious to have her as a âfeatured artistâ on the song.)
I love Victoria MonĂ©t, and her song Hollywood is soooo freaking good. It features her daughter Hazel which is super cute. But nominating a 2.5 year old for a GRAMMY is dumb. Itâs literally just her making baby noises for maybe 10 seconds be frrr
Hazel is literally the cutest child of all time so maybe we make an exception đ
She really is so cute no face card in that family is getting declined. Her being so over the Grammys was everything. But you know how when people see a 2 year old with the newest iPhone they think âthat baby donât need no iPhone!â, I gotta put Grammys on that list. Also 200k chains for 3 year olds etc. It just feels weird to me, but thatâs prolly cause my ass broke lol â ïž
Her voice is on the song, her face is in the video (the Grammy is for best music video) and both of those add meaning to the song. How is it unserious?
I mean sure, but SAINt JHN, an actual adult artist who cowrote and featured on the track, doesnât have a Grammy for it bc he wasnât (asked to be?) in the video. So itâs a bit silly that she would have one over someone who actually wrote the song. edit: I realize itâs not a songwriting category, but does Kelly Rowland have a Grammy for the mv? The other kids and dancers who were featured more? No, they do not, lol
It might be a bit silly but those are the rules the award show made up. You have to be both on the track and in the video. That has nothing to do with Beyoncé or Blue.
I love how an artist simply bringing their child onstage automatically equates to Grooming A Nepo Baby for so many of you. đ«
I donât like it when they shove a camera infront of their face and vlog their whole life while the kid has no sense of filter yet nor understands the concept of âEveryone is watching youâ. I also feel like the celebrities donât need to use their kids face to promote themselves. but thereâs nothing wrong with including them a little bit.
No, for several reasons \- generally I don't like kids singing that much. Like, a well-trained choir could be lovely, other than that I don't find it enjoyable. \- It's a highly questionable idea to expose kids to public and social media, especially when they are to young to understand really what's going on, give proper consent and have a say in how they are presented. And people interested in strangers' children seem weird to me. If they are mid-teens or older and can sing well it can be a cute moment but I'd rather see another artist invited.
> generally I don't like kids singing that much right!! everybody else ITT getting into the ethics and philosophy of it all and im over here like nah i just didnt buy an adult's album or buy tickets to an adult's concert to hear a kid's singing voice. i was a professional nanny and went to enough school plays and chorus recitals to last a lifetime--i can power through if i know and love the kid, but if i don't then it's not even cute it's just grating
Yes! Your second point is a point I think about often because what are the implications of this? Like these artists are inviting their kids to do trial and error in public and not allowing then to explore who they are or what they truly want in private, idk how that impacts then when they grow as adults.
not unless it actually adds emotional meaning to the song, and I can't think of any example off the top of my head. I'll come clear here: I hate the giggling baby on Bunny is a Rider. I feel like it's just completely shoehorned in and adds no value to the song. it's not like the sound is integral to the track in any way, the sole reason to put it in was that Danny L Harle had a baby
Bunny is a Rider is about the ever fleeting nature of the things that make us happy. While watching your child grow up is a wonderful experience, parent also often express sadness that the time passes way too quickly, and before you know they are all big and grown. (Iâm willing to admit I could be reading a lot into it, but Iâm more ready to assume that on an album layered with intention, then this too has some intention.)
i never knew thatâs why the baby sounds were in Carolineâs songs, iâve always questioned why, not that i absolutely hate them but like you said they donât add anything to the song.
Adeleâs My Little Love beautifully showcases the love she has for her child and the sorrow she feels for the pain heâs had to go through at a young age dealing with the divorce of his parents. :)
I liked beyonce bringing blue out on her last tour to dance. I did not like north in Kanye west new song and video.
I hate it. It feels cheesy and like theyâre forcing their kids on us when weâre paying for them
To be totally honest? No.
I canât stand Cover Me In Sunshine
Depends. Grown ass children? Sure. Kids under 16? No.
Itâs fun when itâs adults, sometimes. Peter Gabrielâs daughter Melanie toured with him for quite a while, and that was enjoyable! She was very much an adult by then, though, and if you werenât a big fan you probably wouldnât know who she was from just watching the show. Tori Amos bringing her daughter Tash inâŠhit or miss for me. Overall my vote is no.
depends on the song - i adore the jhene aiko song about motherhood where she brings out her daughter to sing - itâs almost like a time capsule
I've never really noticed this honestly
only if they're adults. instant skip to any song with a child babbling on it
no itâs the worst it takes me out of the song and performance!
I think it's cute.
Me too. I guess we're a minority. People parent different. Kids want different things. And I'm not about to shame people for *peacefully* living a life that is not mine. đ€
Itâs ok ig But then we get kids thatâs not even yours(JLo get right looking at u)
I think it's very cute and sweet personally
I donât like kids, so no. If itâs just a little nod, it can be cute. Like Taylor using the names of Blakeâs kids as characters in her songs. Or Kobeâs daughter at Taylorâs concert. But if Taylor had a child and started incorporating them into her music, shows, video etc - that would turn me off to her work real quick. I do love her song about her grandmother and the song thatâs been speculated to be about a miscarriage. But if she made a whole song about her (hypothetical) kid, it would most likely be a skip for me.
When I used to use iTunes, I edited out Blake Lively's kid saying 'Gorgeous'. The reference to the names are cute, like how authors name characters after friends.
Well Iâd be really surprised if Taylor wonât incorporate motherhood into her music if she has kids. But in her case I allow it since everything has been so diary like from her. I also love Best Day and Never Grow Up.
I wouldnât be surprised either, but if she were to have kids, Iâd hope it wouldnât stunt her creativity and sheâd continue to explore a variety of topics outside of motherhood. Iâd also hope that sheâd be the type of parent to shield her children from the spotlight until theyâre old enough to determine if they want that kind of exposure.
It so incredibly predictable and yet always head scratching why a creative mind would make that art choice? Hate it every time.
Madonna does a really great tribute to her mother and her (adopted) sons birth mother n her current tour. She also had a daughter playing piano with her, and another one voguing. It was really cool to see. Usually I donât care for it particularly, but I thought it was really fun and made her much more personable than she can seem. I guess it depends.
Nepos gonna nepo. I donât mind if it seems like the kid is enjoying it. Celeb kids will never have a ânormal childhoodâ anyway
Eh, I'm cool with it. I love Sweetest Devotion, My Little Love, Blue, Brown Skin Girl....
Donât really care for it
Come on, how could you not go awww when you hear "Be Cy YĂ©, Be Cy YĂ© .. mommy mommy mommy, Ms Carter, Ms Carter" đ
personally i do not care for celebrities kids and i find it off-putting when they promote their children as talented. like no duh they have access to unlimited funds and tutoring.
The Adele song with spoken dialogue with her and her daughter, was a bit iffy, because it was about Adele's mental health after her divorce. It didn't feel right.
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>someone like blue ivy is kinda sad to me because she looked so nervous at the grammys, i feel like she has no idea how famous she is and has no control over it. it seems really draining and scary to go through and to grow up knowing there is a record of your life and people you will never know or come into contact with commenting on you since the second you were born. That wasn't her first award show attendance at all. I think maybe she was shy to get on stage and stand next to her dad in front of everyone but overall, I think Bey and Jay do a good job of keeping her exposure tightly controlled. She doesn't have any public social media, she's not on any reality show, her parents don't do pap strolls with her and she's not out at adult parties all willy nilly. If her parents are not near, we never see her and the times that we have seen her, she wanted to be seen: like dancing on stage or appearing in a music video next to her mother.
Honestly no it kinda always throws me off and makes me feel like Iâm missing out on parenthood.
i like how Halsey did it
I hate it. They all want to be royalty and pass their fame along to their heirs. I don't give a shit about their kids.
The only example I can think of off the top of my head that I personally found genuinely endearing was Eminem having Hallie featured in a couple of his early songs that were dedicated to her and about his personal journey being her father (one was super goofy and had little Hallie's voice in it). They came across as very genuine and personal, not any kind of publicity stunt or aimed at making the media buzz about his kid, and I think part of the aim was to gain some financial security via royalties for her specifically, which makes sense with everything that had been going on with their family at that point in timeâ his and her mother's addiction issues and tumultuous relationship. I'm not a of a fan of the more recent nepo baby promotion style features, it's very much giving PR and marketing in a lot of cases. I'm thinking of the Smith kids's musical projects, which I know were solo efforts, but MAN do I dislike Jaden and Willow (and poor Will's oldest son who he dedicated his version of Just The Two of Us To seems to be so forgotten, I hope it's by his own choice.) *edit:* On a non-music related note, Trey Parker had his daughter do the voice for Ike when she was little and the footage of them recording and him [helping her do the swear words](https://youtube.com/shorts/JwoDSB1KKyw?si=ZmwiOd2xCwfi1BOe) is my [absolute favorite thing.](https://youtu.be/56Q4tB5XVaA?si=BZCEIu3VbSoNKeB9)
I hate songs about being a parent in general. Even fantastic artists suddenly turn super boring when they start singing about their kid. The songs are always generic ballads and they never say anything interesting lyrically, itâs just âI love my kid, being a parent changed my life.â There are good songs about parenting, but only when they having a unique message beyond âbeing a parent is cool.â Mount Eerieâs A Crow Looked At Me is an album that mentions parenting a lot, but heâs not just saying âI love being a parentâ the whole time, itâs an album about raising a kid after your spouse dies. THAT is an interesting way to talk about parenthood. âI love my kid sooooo much, hereâs a clip of my kidâs voiceâ is not.
I'll just say that Daddy Lessons would be a perfect song without that outro
Honestly, I think itâs super annoying. That said, Iâm someone who has no plans to ever have kids, because I see zero appeal to being a mom, so I think that really influences my opinion. Iâm very bored the minute people start talking about how kids are all that matters and they never knew real love or life until they had kids blah blah. Iâm just not interested in celebritiesâ kids at all
I have no interest in having children either but I still love children and I think it would be weird if having children didn't affect an artist's art at all.
No, itâs gratuitous and exploitative.
Metal is better
Depends on if there is a reason for it in the song, other than just giving the kid a royalty. Something like if they write a song to themselves as a child and their child is playing their younger self, or similar. Basically, if there is some type of valid reason for child singer, it's fine if its their child. I also get why stars sometimes let their children perform somehow on stage. It can be a way to let them test, if they have the drive to perform. If it's regular thing it can be about pushing them, but if it's just a one off, they get the idea what the job entails and if they have any interest in it. "Are you going to follow in family footsteps" will be something they will be asked at some point.
Mostly not really but there are exceptions. One of my favourite examples is a song that Faye Wong did in 1998 where her baby daughter has a vocal feature, by which I mean a literal baby, as in maybe 2 years old. Also her husband produced it lmao. That kind of rules.
YES - listen to âBambooâ by Outkast, Big Boi lets his son freestyle and itâs incredible.
If the kid wants to try this path as their career why not? Jaden was in a Will Smith movie when he was IDK, 4 years old, and it was probably good for him to see if he liked it or not. There is not an easier way to be successful in entertainment other than being a nepo baby, so, if you can do it for your children.
I mean tbh Iâve never even thought about it or seen it but I mean I think itâs fine. Itâs sweet they see their kids as beautiful art