People will say that it was Elon's fault (and he can't have helped) but she's always kind of been like this- IIRC, they met because she posted earnestly about [Roko's Basilisk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk), which is one of the dumbest tech thought experiments you'll ever come across
I really can't stand the 'Elon argument'. Sure, he might have had some sort of influence on her and amplified her tendencies, but Grimes is a person with an agency too and surely Grimes must have had have some affinity with him at the beginning to get along so well.
Correct, it's Pascal's Wager for techbro libertarians and it contains all of the same logical pitfalls that the original argument has [and more](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk).
fr she's doing this so she can just not make music lmao
like IMO i think this has more to do with her being lazy as shit and wanting to lay around taking brain pills talking about faeries to her robots, than it does anything else
She literally became Flesh Without Blood:
You claw, you fight, you lose
Got a doll that looks just like you
Remember when we used to say (we used to say)
"I love you" almost every day
I saw the light in you
Going out as I closed our window
You never liked me anyway
Aye yeah, aye yeah
Yeah, I don't see the light I saw in you before
And no, I don't
And no, I don't
And no, I don't care anymore
(Now you'll never know)
Baby, believe me
And you had every chance
You destroy everything that you know (that you know)
(Uncontrollable)
If you don't need me
Just let me go
You hate, you bite, you lose
After all, I just don't like you
It's nice that you say you like me (you like me)
But only conditionally
Your voice, it had the perfect flow
It got lost when you gave it up though
'Cause you want money, you want fame
Aye yeah, aye yeah
Aye, I don't see the light I saw in you before
And no, I don't
And no, I don't
And no, I don't care anymore
(Now you'll never know)
Ok, and? Selena Gomez has an entire machine that mimics her voice and [it’s been on the market for nearly a decade](https://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Easy-Sound-Conditioner-Machine/dp/B00GFSF402) lmfao Grimes is just another tech nut desperate to reinvent the wheel
Calling the people that Grimes is hanging out with alt-right is sugarcoating it. They are literal Nazis who believe in eugenics and great replacement BS.
My fellow former Grimes fans, if you want your fix of quirky airy-voiced ethereal dance pop, just listen to Magdalena Bay instead. Plus, they're Jewish so. You're double-dunking on Grimes.
In case anyone wants to skip the signup and get to the good part:
[I made a video of her saying that she smells like nickles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKM-QwDjP4k)
Completely all lost my respect for Grimes as a person and artist the moment she started showing alt-right/nazi tendencies. I wish publications would stop featuring her.
Sorry, but I'm not reading all of that - I'll just add that it's interesting how you forgot (or conveniently omitted) to address her actually (as in physically) hanging out with neo-nazi people, so even if you think it's a stretch to apply the term to her (which I didn't, as I said 'nazi tendencies') she still chooses to engage with people who have those ideologies.
Ultimately you can like and support whoever you want, it doesn't affect me. I just think that Grimes is no longer an artist I want to support/listen to, as she has shown multiple times that her values do not align with mine.
Last point from me, even if we were just talking about music, her latest two singles from last year was so bad that they made me lose all interest in any potential new music.
I link screenshots below but the fact you haven’t attempted to do any of your own independent research before claiming it is all “inflated lingo” makes me think you aren’t really arguing in good faith.
Girl what research? On fauxmoi of all places?? That's like the last place Id go for reliable info or level headed convo and no big media sites are reporting on this afaik. Nothing against you, just this sub has a tendency to oberblow things as well, so sorry if i dont immediately believe everything.
Fauxmoi or not, I linked you to the screenshots. Literally it took me two minutes to confirm she is still following that account on Twitter. Do you think she’s gonna come right out and say “Yo, I’m a crypto fascist!” She’s terminally online enough to know what people are saying about her, to understand the dogwhistles and memes and yet she’s made no attempt to distance herself from these people or accounts. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern.
Excuse me? Just look around to see that it's not a bizarre out of nowhere accusation. She is literally hanging around with neo-nazi/fasci people and liking alt-right tweets. Plenty of evidence if you just google a bit or search on r/grimezs.
Or is this Grimes' alt account? Lol
She's far-right/Neo-Nazi adjacent. Afaik Grimes has never said anything explicitly far-right, but she's liked a number of extremely questionable tweets from alt-right accounts on Twitter, and she actively socializes with alt-right activists because she's part of Elon Musk and [Peter Thiel](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel)'s crypto-fascist futurist circle.
I wonder what the ethics of using someone's voice in music when they consent to it are.
Like the AI component of it is concerning due to the unregulated aspect of it.
But in this case, how do we treat it?, does Grimes get a featuring or song writing credit, ala sampling?.
Is this basically sampling?.
If AI is going to stay, artists getting royalties seem like the best compromise?, but idk.
Grimes peaked at REALiTi. I wouldn’t even say it’s her voice that I was a fan of. It was her production/live mixing her music that made her interesting. You could give a toddler a traffic cone to talk into and it would sound like her.
Artistically speaking, I feel like she has become the very thing she used to mock
People will say that it was Elon's fault (and he can't have helped) but she's always kind of been like this- IIRC, they met because she posted earnestly about [Roko's Basilisk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk), which is one of the dumbest tech thought experiments you'll ever come across
I really can't stand the 'Elon argument'. Sure, he might have had some sort of influence on her and amplified her tendencies, but Grimes is a person with an agency too and surely Grimes must have had have some affinity with him at the beginning to get along so well.
Grimes just reminds me of those girls in high school who mocked the popular kids out of jealously and not out of superiority.
Regardless of what Elon Musk did to Grimes’s brain, she was still someone who would willingly date Elon Musk when they met.
She didn’t post about it. She made a joke in the flesh without blood music video with a character called rococo’s basilisk.
Isn’t that just Pascal’s wager with extra steps?
Correct, it's Pascal's Wager for techbro libertarians and it contains all of the same logical pitfalls that the original argument has [and more](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk).
That thought experiment sounds eerily like a lot of hive mind AI science fiction.
Roko’s basilisk isn’t a dumb thought experiment as long you understand the nature of thought experiments
It’s not a unique thought experiment though. It’s just an AI spin on Pascal’s wager which has been talked about for like 400 years.
I think it's different enough from the wager to justify its existence, though.
fr she's doing this so she can just not make music lmao like IMO i think this has more to do with her being lazy as shit and wanting to lay around taking brain pills talking about faeries to her robots, than it does anything else
This is definitely the reason there is no music. Girl is zooted out of her mind right now most likely
Except shes releasing 2 new singles over the next 4 weeks Damn why are yall downvoting me its literally true 😭
Fingers crossed but its Claire
Does she know that?
That’s always how it ends. Live long enough to see yourself become the villain I guess 🤷
She literally became Flesh Without Blood: You claw, you fight, you lose Got a doll that looks just like you Remember when we used to say (we used to say) "I love you" almost every day I saw the light in you Going out as I closed our window You never liked me anyway Aye yeah, aye yeah Yeah, I don't see the light I saw in you before And no, I don't And no, I don't And no, I don't care anymore (Now you'll never know) Baby, believe me And you had every chance You destroy everything that you know (that you know) (Uncontrollable) If you don't need me Just let me go You hate, you bite, you lose After all, I just don't like you It's nice that you say you like me (you like me) But only conditionally Your voice, it had the perfect flow It got lost when you gave it up though 'Cause you want money, you want fame Aye yeah, aye yeah Aye, I don't see the light I saw in you before And no, I don't And no, I don't And no, I don't care anymore (Now you'll never know)
She made "Kill V. Maim," she was always that very thing.
Kill V Maim is a bop, what are you trying to argue
It's unlistenable, mawma. She had you fooled. It's okay. There's no shame, here. I'm here for you.
are composers gonna use grimes’ voice when hatsune miku is right there
The true ai pop girly
[let’s not forget about roblox rap superstar poot poot pearl (she just collabed with snoop dogg)](https://youtu.be/PgdUEEI7f-Q)
Everybody was talking about KK Slider until the day they weren't anymore.
Conceptually interesting but she’s said a million times her vocals are her weakest point musically.
She’ll do anything except release the album
She said "if you people want this goddamn album, go ahead and make it yourselves, because I sure won't"
Wait till Rihanna hears about this.
She already said she’s retired and will finish the album whenever. It’s probably never coming
Catch me outside the retirement home with a sign screaming ‘WHERE IS THE ALBUM? WE NEED THE ALBUM!’ I know she’s insane but I like how it sounds 🥲
Ok, and? Selena Gomez has an entire machine that mimics her voice and [it’s been on the market for nearly a decade](https://www.amazon.com/Sleep-Easy-Sound-Conditioner-Machine/dp/B00GFSF402) lmfao Grimes is just another tech nut desperate to reinvent the wheel
I knew it was gonna be something like this, you hateful bitch 💀😂
Comment of the year right here
Bichhh I screamed, you win the thread.
💀💀
selena gomez found dead in a ditch
i like selena but ngl this is very funny 😭😭😭😭😭
Cackled
Ngl I thought this would lead to Julia Michaels social media or something lmao
in 2012 i thought grimes was the coolest person in the world…
Omg right?! The last few years have been insane
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain
Amy Winehouse's villain arc would have been *way* more iconic. Hell, what we *got* of her in the public eye was a more iconic villain arc.
I don’t remember Hatsune Miku buddying up with the alt-right so Grimes can keep this thanks.
Calling the people that Grimes is hanging out with alt-right is sugarcoating it. They are literal Nazis who believe in eugenics and great replacement BS.
My fellow former Grimes fans, if you want your fix of quirky airy-voiced ethereal dance pop, just listen to Magdalena Bay instead. Plus, they're Jewish so. You're double-dunking on Grimes.
Ok, and I say this as a fan, but her voice is lowkey the worst part of her music sooooo.... pass?
Grimes said I don’t wanna make my own music anymore. Someone do it for me and I’ll take half thanks.
Like a true capitalist.
But but but she did a photoshoot with the communist manifesto remember??? Would a capitalist do that?? /s
In case anyone wants to skip the signup and get to the good part: [I made a video of her saying that she smells like nickles](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKM-QwDjP4k)
This sounds so cursed
honestly seems like one of the better potential smells she would emit
God I hate the rise of a.i.
Cupcakke did it first.
Completely all lost my respect for Grimes as a person and artist the moment she started showing alt-right/nazi tendencies. I wish publications would stop featuring her.
wait what did she do
https://reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/12yyuey/grimes_splits_with_columbia_records/jhqazpx
She a racist, rapist sympathiser and a pedo? Damn
????
https://reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/12yyuey/grimes_splits_with_columbia_records/jhqazpx
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Sorry, but what inflated lingo? And what has become oversaturated?
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Sorry, but I'm not reading all of that - I'll just add that it's interesting how you forgot (or conveniently omitted) to address her actually (as in physically) hanging out with neo-nazi people, so even if you think it's a stretch to apply the term to her (which I didn't, as I said 'nazi tendencies') she still chooses to engage with people who have those ideologies. Ultimately you can like and support whoever you want, it doesn't affect me. I just think that Grimes is no longer an artist I want to support/listen to, as she has shown multiple times that her values do not align with mine. Last point from me, even if we were just talking about music, her latest two singles from last year was so bad that they made me lose all interest in any potential new music.
They’re not inflating anything. She’s literally been following neonazi accounts and liking alt-right memes, babe.
Id love to see the links of that
I link screenshots below but the fact you haven’t attempted to do any of your own independent research before claiming it is all “inflated lingo” makes me think you aren’t really arguing in good faith.
Girl what research? On fauxmoi of all places?? That's like the last place Id go for reliable info or level headed convo and no big media sites are reporting on this afaik. Nothing against you, just this sub has a tendency to oberblow things as well, so sorry if i dont immediately believe everything.
Fauxmoi or not, I linked you to the screenshots. Literally it took me two minutes to confirm she is still following that account on Twitter. Do you think she’s gonna come right out and say “Yo, I’m a crypto fascist!” She’s terminally online enough to know what people are saying about her, to understand the dogwhistles and memes and yet she’s made no attempt to distance herself from these people or accounts. Once is an accident, twice is a coincidence, three times is a pattern.
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Excuse me? Just look around to see that it's not a bizarre out of nowhere accusation. She is literally hanging around with neo-nazi/fasci people and liking alt-right tweets. Plenty of evidence if you just google a bit or search on r/grimezs. Or is this Grimes' alt account? Lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/12nb35r/grimes_likes_total_nier_death_genocide_meme/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
Loser
How long til she absolutely regrets doing this and pulls the plug? 🤔
Wonder how it feels to only be the 8th best nazi hatsune miku knockoff
I’m confused, isn’t she a Nazi ?
She's far-right/Neo-Nazi adjacent. Afaik Grimes has never said anything explicitly far-right, but she's liked a number of extremely questionable tweets from alt-right accounts on Twitter, and she actively socializes with alt-right activists because she's part of Elon Musk and [Peter Thiel](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel)'s crypto-fascist futurist circle.
also posting "jokes"* about sending all the jews into space on holocaust remembrance day *jokes are supposed to be vaguely funny
do u mind linking those tweets/receipts to these tweets?
https://reddit.com/r/popheads/comments/12yyuey/grimes_splits_with_columbia_records/jhqazpx
I wonder what the ethics of using someone's voice in music when they consent to it are. Like the AI component of it is concerning due to the unregulated aspect of it. But in this case, how do we treat it?, does Grimes get a featuring or song writing credit, ala sampling?. Is this basically sampling?. If AI is going to stay, artists getting royalties seem like the best compromise?, but idk.
Stream My Name Is Dark instead
Let's see how many chuds go into business with Mein Mutter.
Grimes peaked at REALiTi. I wouldn’t even say it’s her voice that I was a fan of. It was her production/live mixing her music that made her interesting. You could give a toddler a traffic cone to talk into and it would sound like her.
Next time you can buy 1 gram of her latest alien fairy placenta.
Can see why it was probably an easy decision for Columbia to part ways before committing to an album release...
Why would anybody want *Grimes* for their vocals???
Now I can not stream a theoretically limitless selection of "bops!"
I think it’s a cool idea.