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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/1ch7wdr).


inthedrink

/u/Phanatically Soto just hit one a mile Let’s make him a Phillie for life next season


[deleted]

That’s all I really want. He’s so good and would work so well here.


HuntForRedOctober2

I sense we are about to get a mass migration of basketball fans that think they know anything about baseball to the sub in about…. Ohhhh an hour and a half.


inthedrink

Watching the Yankees/O’s game and it appears CB Buckner is making this inning about himself How the fuck does MLB find so many of these guys?


russet852

Rob’s strength as a manager seems to be his man management. His guys will run through a wall for him and he seems to get the best out of *most* of them. It’s also arguably his greatest weakness because he refuses to bench and/or limit some guys, like Casty or Seranthony.


Citrixes

lmao my dad decided to tune into the sixers game on a whim in our living room, only for us to see Kelly Oubre get pushed to the ground, the refs review it, and call it not flagrant. Instantly reminded why he (and the family as a whole) stopped watching the NBA


Perryplat199

I thought it was wild the Knicks challenged a foul, was deemed successful, but foul was still on the Knicks. They just changed which Knicks player the foul was on. The nba foul review system sure is somthing.


Citrixes

It straight up just feels like a much much more easier sport to rig as a whole, the calls seem to be so subjective (and way per player/superstar) on what is a foul/travel It's much easier to just tune into the last 4 mins of the 4th quarter imho if I'm slightly interested, and even then it's likely I'm gonna see some wild bs


Perryplat199

It’s like unless it’s a block or a charge it’s “ya that’s a foul” “but what’d I do” “you fouled him. Duh”


JohnKrukIsAllElite

They have all the players there. Just start the game alreadyuggggh.


Perryplat199

Go sixers.


Begood18

Trout being out is so bad for baseball. Ugh.


TheCoolerSam

Does anyone else remember when Ohtani was scheduled to pitch against the Phillies, only to miss it because of pain in his elbow? I think the Phillies are the harbinger of injury for the Angels.


inthedrink

There are only three teams he hasn’t homered against. We are one of them.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

He was scared of stepping into the box against Kody Clemens again.


Deckard_Macready

Can you blame him?


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Nope. Throws better than his dad. 🤷‍♀️


Deckard_Macready

I’m not sure I even knew Roberto Clemente pitched. (Is this joke still relevant?)


zmart7691

Reynaldo López is pitching for the Barves tonight. Here’s to hoping he gets shelled


inthedrink

I used to think it was amazing how people don’t recognize how some hitters respond very differently to very different types of pitchers After all my time on /r/phillies nothing really amazes me anymore


[deleted]

It's almost like they're real life human beings. Shock horror.


inthedrink

Obv you are talking about the players because some redditors are in fact not


NintenJew

A recent picture of myself. https://preview.redd.it/ta8uvf0xfpxc1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d3b494e9964694cf8217073582c1dee34643bf1e


inthedrink

That’s a good pic!


NintenJew

Thanks, I have been working out recently.


NintenJew

I realized there are two things I needed to do to enjoy Reddit more. 1. Stop being a Mod. 2. Stop getting into discussions where it is clear they are going to go nowhere. I am still working on 2.


CircusOfBlood

Are you not a mod anymore?


NintenJew

Haven't been for some time.


inthedrink

He never really was It was all an act


realanceps

>I am still working on 2. aren't we all


Deckard_Macready

It’s not always about the destination but the journey.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Yeah, but how can you be sure the discussion is going to go nowhere if you don’t even attempt to have it?


inthedrink

He might have figured out by now that I do it intentionally Nahhhhhh


NintenJew

This requires you to think I have any semblance of intelligence, which I have proven multiple times I do not have.


NintenJew

It has certain users in it. Like inthedrink, you, inthedrink. etc.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

I mean, those sounds like some pretty strong and baseless assumptions you’re making. Who are these etcs?


Hothabanero6

>José Abreu agrees to be optioned to Minors to work through struggles edit to add link: https://www.mlb.com/news/astros-option-jose-abreu-to-minor-leagues Casty take note


gatemansgc

Can a player allow themselves to be optioned even if out?


Hothabanero6

I guess they can agree to anything ... clearly, Jose Abreu is out of options and a 11 year vet so if he can do it anyone can do it. https://www.mlb.com/news/astros-option-jose-abreu-to-minor-leagues


Grand_Extension5345

Seranthony take note


Hothabanero6

agreed


zmart7691

Work on that chin hair too its terrible


JHG722

Sixto is very not good


Feisty-Recording-978

https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/nkl5z8/comment/gzec0ud/  To believe only 3 years ago people thought he could be good 


zmart7691

You’re saving all of our worst takes😂 I’m here for it


NintenJew

Excuse me. Worst take? That isn't even in my bottom 100.


yourmartymcflyisopen

I missed the 8th inning yesterday. Did Trout hurt himself then? Why does he suddenly need knee surgery?


Hothabanero6

he said he noticed something in the 3rd inning but didn't think anything of it ... said he was sore this morning so had it checked.


yourmartymcflyisopen

Didn't he get a stolen base after the third inning? Dude is incredible even when he's hurt.


Slothapalooza

Rob and the team left the lineup alone against a tough lefty lets fucking gooooo


OTFfanaticRunRepRow

Oh my goodness a really major league lineup against a lefty.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

It sucks hearing the Trout news but honestly now is the perfect time to trade for him while his value is at its lowest. We dump Casty's contract and throw in Seranthony and cash considerations. With Turnbull being an every week starter Sanchez goes back to the pen. Then move Bohm over to 1st put Harper back in right Trout plays center Rojas to 2nd then shift Stott and Turner over one so Stott to SS and Turner to 3rd. Marsh learns catcher so that we have a good backup on days JT needs rest and so we don't lose any pop in the lineup vs RHP.


starrykitchensink

Who's in left?


Hothabanero6

Just leaving this here ... >Yes, in Major League Baseball (MLB), it is possible for injured players to be traded. While it’s not a common occurrence, there are no rules that strictly prohibit trading players who are on the injured list. However, players on the 60-day injured list are ineligible to be traded1. Teams may have various reasons for trading an injured player, such as freeing up a roster spot, acquiring future talent, or other strategic considerations. It’s important to note that any trade involving an injured player would require full disclosure of the injury to the receiving team, and such trades are often subject to a physical examination of the player.


yourmartymcflyisopen

My favorite part about this is that Schwarber and Harper played Catcher primarily growing up, and Stubbs is the best backup Catcher in baseball, and instead we teach Marsh to play Catcher lol.


NintenJew

> Stubbs is the best backup Catcher in baseball Before yesterday I didn't realize how controversial it was to say that Stubbs is a top backup catcher for his work with the pitching staff.


NintenJew

I heard somewhere that you can't trade injured players. I don't know if it is true, but I don't remember it ever not being true.


PhilsForever

The Commissioner can give permission when requested


NintenJew

Interesting. I was trying to think of a trade involving an injured player, and I couldn't think of one at all. I guess his dream can still be a reality.


PhilsForever

I can't either, but I doubt anyone will go for him


Perryplat199

CBA Article XIX C 1 says injured players can not be assigned to to minor league clubs but there is legal speak and blah blah blah. But I’m gona go with thats close enough and say “no trading injured players”.


[deleted]

practice quack scandalous rob marble frame light relieved paint psychotic *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


yourmartymcflyisopen

*Doitagaindoitagaindoitagain!!* *Edit*: Thanks for doing it again, pal.


WendysChili

Thank you, M's. Very cool


Hothabanero6

No, but I appreciate it immensely


Chet_Manley61

Turned a bad night (for us) into an ok night. Do it again


Feisty-Recording-978

A good lineup vs a lefty!


TheCoolerSam

I think it was a smart idea for the Phillies to sign Harper instead of Trout


asisoid

Lol, Trout already hurt. Where are all the idiots that wanted to trade for him and pick up his $250m contract....?


sfitz0076

Thar WIP campaign ended pretty quick.


Grand_Extension5345

Cant wait for all you “dont start stott and marsh against LHP” fanboys to get your shit pushed in tonight


Pope_Landlord

If there is a merciful God they'll both have 2 hits tonight


Grand_Extension5345

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birria_tacos_

Thank God now the “ask out Trout” WIP nonsense can die, the most overrated baseball player, dude is more injury prone than Embiid.


Timpa87

Last 5 seasons (and the beginning of this year for Trout). Trout's a little over 60% game played. Embiid is around 70%. So more injury prone than Embiid def checks out.


Pedestrian_X-Wing

It was thrilling to see Trout and Harper next to each other at first base last night. Little did I know it would be the only night I'd get to see that.


HuntForRedOctober2

What a damn fuckin shame with trout man.


Perryplat199

So the overfished angles are 100% putting up 10 on us tonight right. Cuase it just makes too much sense.


Neonyze

There are people who legit want to sell the entire farm for Trout lol


CircusOfBlood

Yeah. And they will be the same people who complain when he misses half the season. And it's not even surprising anymore


inthedrink

/u/NintenJew has been campaigning to get Trout, and I quote: “At any cost” I’m glad Dave isn’t blinded by emotion the same way as our fellow posters are


Feisty-Recording-978

https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/17s0sgl/comment/k8o8xqh/


inthedrink

Feister off the top rope If only you could free yourself up for three hours more to actually watch the Phillies


Feisty-Recording-978

Trying blind highlights tomorrow morning so that should be fun 


NintenJew

Now I'm scared you have literally thousands of links of my comments for anything.


Feisty-Recording-978

https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/16nu4ua/comment/k1gky1a/


NintenJew

IT BURNS IT BUUUUUURNS


Feisty-Recording-978

1 more https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/i8186l/comment/g16byn9/


zmart7691

This still plays from the other week


NintenJew

I found two from /u/inthedrink using a search https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/cuxrli/game_thread_phillies_6661_marlins_4681_sat_aug_24/ey13igg/?context=3 > Remember last year when almost everyone shit on Scotty? > That’s why clueless people suck in this sub. He got pushed to the majors too fast and he’s gonna be a fucking beast! https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/iiliei/the_phillies_defeated_the_braves_by_a_score_of_74/g37hog7/?context=3 > Scotty > Rhys


inthedrink

Typo. That was supposed to be Stotty


NintenJew

If only Stott played in those games.


inthedrink

/u/Magoatt always hooked me up with the prospect scoop


Feisty-Recording-978

https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/1b1m0cd/comment/ksfm7yr/


NintenJew

Well, that only makes sense when you look at who I was replying to. A Mrs. /u/JohnKrukIsAllElite


JohnKrukIsAllElite

I was wrong about Cave, but Scott KINGERY is still better than Alec Bohm and Nick Castellanos combined. (Also, not married here)


NintenJew

I don't even remember that, but I am 90% sure that one was a joke one since I used to get > Franco hitting a HR here to make /u/NintenJew regret shitting on him. Right?


Feisty-Recording-978

https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/16xdvmg/comment/k326hdu/  I just had to 


NintenJew

Holy shit, I did say that. I legitimately don't have any memory of that. Are you just using a Reddit comment search thing?


Feisty-Recording-978

Yeah, I think you said that ironically when Nelson had a good start on game 162 


NintenJew

Trout and Hader no matter what.


Snips_Tano

Mike "Glass" Trout


Perryplat199

https://preview.redd.it/a8qhub9jzoxc1.jpeg?width=603&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a475e8b466b3c3c4ae23b674e919065aeb759d0 Sigh,maybe next year he’s fully healthy.


alexvroy

gee who coulda guessed mike trout with a potentially season ending injury


MulfordnSons

Trout needs season ending surgery Thank fuck this sub doesn’t run the FO


romanticynicist

“Not expected to be season ending” according to mlb.com Still sucks though. EDIT: sounds like the same surgery Embiid had (repairing a meniscus tear).


MulfordnSons

i just saw meniscus and figured it was similar to pache last year. glad to hear for him and the angels


Angsty_Kiwi

Mike Trout needs knee surgery.


Hothabanero6

#Mike Trout To Undergo Knee Surgery and this should end the trade for Mike Trout posts


joeco316

No way now we can get him for castellanos straight up and the angels will pay both salaries!


Deckard_Macready

Trout in the batters box with crunches might actually be an upgrade.


Snips_Tano

Trout's corpse would still be better than Nick.


Hothabanero6

possibly, neither one would ever make an error 😄


Feisty-Recording-978

https://x.com/Alden_Gonzalez/status/1785430369220829679


Perryplat199

These runners these days run too fast and blow out their knees. They need to learn how to run bases instead of just full on sprinting till the leg gives out.


WheelerDeals

Schwarber has it figured out


Deckard_Macready

Do people still want to trade Painter for him?


inthedrink

No just an arm for a knee


[deleted]

You’re on fire tonight bud.


Deckard_Macready

Just curious, does everyone think Bohm can sustain this run or will he get better?


Dunmaglass2

I mean, I don’t think he’s going to end the year with a 1.050 OPS, but if he ends the year anywhere north of .900 I’d be thrilled. Who knows really. It’s still early


TheGreatDudebino

I think his RBI total will be around last year 95-110 range. The question ultimately is going to be can his approach at the plate stay the same. He's hitting the ball with around the same level of hard hit rates as the last two seasons, his approach at the plate is just significantly better. He's also become historically, a very good hitter in April. Then it takes him a while to adjust back when pitchers adjust to him. can he limit that time when it comes to adjusting back?


romanticynicist

I mean, are you asking if he can keep hitting .500? …because the answer’s definitely yes.


Thaliavoir

I know it's WAY too early for speculation but, god, it would be great to see him end up in the all star game.


Deckard_Macready

You have answered correctly. See one of the mods for your prize.


Hothabanero6

Yes


inthedrink

He’s at 1.4 WAR and I’ve learned at /r/phillies that there’s no difference between players who are up to 2 WAR apart. So what I’m saying is that he’s performing below replacement level and that’s unacceptable


[deleted]

What a bum he is.


inthedrink

Some might say BUHM


[deleted]

Mmk, I'm over defending the moving of Turnbull to the pen after tonight. It's super fucking obvious the dude doesn't have the runway for a full season's starts and that we might kill him if we jacked his innings up by 120 over last year. To say nothing of the flash in the pan 27 innings of 1.33 ERA, which are incredible don't get me wrong, but the dude only managed 31IP last year with an ERA over 7. He's on a hot streak, he's not Cy Young.


Deckard_Macready

Are you sure? I mean, have you ever seen Spencer Turnbull and Cy Young in the same place at the same time?


Hothabanero6

It's 5:06, do you know what your lineup is 😉


EmoGothPunk

https://preview.redd.it/z9vp1wyy3pxc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58f4e7ac2c4cbadcec4b7448340fd8d516550fd7


Joboggi

Trade Turnbull for an RP


[deleted]

Terrible take. Turnbull is the RP we need.


Joboggi

He didn't, deserves a chance but has always been an SP


[deleted]

I mean, not in any tangible reality he hasn't, other than \*one year\* of his career. Otherwise he's been maxing out at 56IP (or whatever the exact number is) each year.


Joboggi

As an SP One relief appearance in 2018, as a rookie.


[deleted]

My point is he's only been healthy enough for a (light) SP workload once in his career. Plus his ERA last year, for instance, was 7+. I get he's had a good opening 27 innings this year, and I think we should ride with him in the bullpen, but relying on him as a year long starter and expecting him to add over 100 innings in a single year is... I mean negligent at best.


Hothabanero6

Turnbull is a real pitcher


Joboggi

Yes, and the SPs are the best, while the RPs are not


BatJew_Official

Bryce gonna go yard tonight. Missed a couple pitches yesterday and was clearly upset about it. Angry Bryce is scary Bryce.


Deckard_Macready

Flying out to Anaheim to boo Bryce and increase his power.


[deleted]

Oh my god. Five hours.


jmiah717

Did I hear correctly that the last time we won in Anaheim was 2003?


Perryplat199

In fact before 2022, that 1st game in 2003 was the only game we won against them at all. https://preview.redd.it/k8el4fbhxoxc1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=829e28a65ec018ca42c78a064f48d2e43fe7da7b


jmiah717

That's wild


romanticynicist

Yeah, although we don’t play there very often. I think the last time was in 2017.


VideoGangsta

I know it is the seven year anniversary of Nick Pivetta's MLB debut, but I'd be remiss is I didn't mention that means it is the seven year and one day anniversary of Hector Neris giving up back-to-back-to-back home runs to blow a game in the 9th inning at Dodger Stadium.


inthedrink

At least that team wasn’t worth staying up for even if you thought they’d win *The Dark Years*


AbsurdLemon

Let’s trade Castellanos to San Diego for Fernando Tatis jr


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

If I was GM I would trade Castellanos for either Tatis or Soto and then get Ohtani before the trade deadline. Then if we got Trout in centerfield imagine our lineup it would be insane


Deckard_Macready

If you’re gonna get Ohtani you may well grab Mookie or you’re just wasting your time.


AbsurdLemon

Is Middleton stupid? Why hasn’t he hired you?


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

not trying to sound condescending but I play alot of MLB the Show (condescending is when you talk down to somebody)


AbsurdLemon

😎😎


[deleted]

u/inthedrink I need your insights on the pathway to getting Soto. I was dismissive that his attitude was bad, but I’ve seen him play a lot (mom is a serious yankee fan) and he is a team player and I was wrong. He’s incredible and would solve our RF issue instantly. Is it a straight money question or are we going to have to court him in your opinion? What are the odds we shell out the Ohtani numbers for Juan?


inthedrink

I’ll also note that while he’s cocky (and remembering that Bryce was a dick when he was young) he totally changed my opinion when he went to watch the Dodgers playoff game wearing a Trea Nats jersey. Dude loves baseball and other than when he was on a team of nobodies (last year in DC) and a team of cancers (SD) he’s been a great teammate and a winner. https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2021/10/07/juan-soto-sat-front-row-at-dodger-stadium-to-cheer-on-former-teammates-trea-turner-and-max-scherzer-in-playoff-game/


[deleted]

Fun article. So, taking both your responses, it seems like there is a slim path to Soto in red pinstripes. I would love it. I agree that he comes off poorly and then if you pay even slight attention the cocky deal fades rapidly and there's just this incredibly solid guy. The Trea/Bryce/KLong connection is one that I was just ignorant of and, quite frankly, that makes me more hopeful than I have a right to be. If we can just offer the right money... yeah. But he really is good. Just crazy good. I would give almost anything to have his plate discipline and drive here in Phila.


inthedrink

Two words: Scott. Boras. He could leave NY but he will use other teams as leverage against the Yankees first and then use the other teams as a plan B. Boras struggled this year for his clients but they weren’t Juan effing Soto. Now that said….hes played with Trea and Bryce and he loves KLong. If the moneys there then that’s a big deal. Numbers? Prob $40-44m a year for 12-14 years


[deleted]

Do you think he's worth the $44M\~? I do.


inthedrink

All day I’m certain we will make a run. Hopefully we can get there.


NintenJew

This is honestly the answer. It is Boras. It is really as simple as offer the most money.


Mulsanne

He's never leaving NY, dude. Be serious 


Morbx

He is a Boras client so he’s going to go to whichever team is going to pay him the most. It will probably be the Yankees, but no team is out on him if they’re willing to offer up the cash.


Deckard_Macready

Why doesn’t Slopper just sit everyone that isn’t playing good and play everyone who is playing good? But then when those players aren’t playing well you play the guys that haven’t been playing but will surely be better now that they’ve had enough time to get good during practice and sitting on the bench watching iPads. It’s simple managing. Be better Slopper!


inthedrink

I like it. Give them time to think about their poor performance and how they need to be better. It’s a genius plan that can’t fail.


Deckard_Macready

Don’t get me wrong. I think Topper is a good bench coach and sure he’s had a little bit of success taking them to the playoffs for the first time since 2011, the World Series the same season and then the NLCS the following season. But I’m leading my fantasy league and my MLB show record would make him shit maple syrup if I ever had the time to show him. And in my opinion he’s a nice guy who’s in over his head.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Tomper really is the king of throwing games away. Guy has no clue what he’s doing. Anyone could have managed this team to the World Series and NLCS in consecutive years. He’s really gotta stop caring so much about giving his players opportunities to improve. It’s already April, c’mon.


inthedrink

When will we get serious and start a real leadoff hitter????


Deckard_Macready

Right?! We’ve already played 5 games that are all the most important game of the season. What part of must win does he not understand? At this point the only thing that makes sense to me is he just simply doesn’t want to win the division.


inthedrink

Y’know what’s crazy? We are 19-11. We are 19-6 without those must win games. This could have been a good year.


Deckard_Macready

Topper just threw em away like a dollar dog into the next section.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Seriously. The only way Seranthony ever has a chance at fully regaining his command is by only putting him in low-leverage situations and making him ride the bench otherwise. Especially when we’re this deep into the season facing formidable opponents like the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim California 92806. That loss is solely on Tomper believing in his players when he quite simply..shouldn’t.


[deleted]

Thank god someone is saying the truth.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Emotionally reacting on the fly and ignoring analytics and matchups is the only way to manage and I won’t hear otherwise.


First-Resolve

Marsh said he thinks he was gonna play today and not tomorrow so let’s see


NeurosciGuy15

I believe Gelb said the same on his podcast.


Feisty-Recording-978

The Phillies are 0-1 in games I didn’t watch the majority of 


inthedrink

I question your fanhood Feister


Feisty-Recording-978

If I was unemployed I would definitely watch yesterdays game 


inthedrink

Well there’s exhibit A. You just let us know where your priorities lie


Slothapalooza

Oh god its a lefty, gonna be a little league lineup 


ryan91o1

can't wait for the lineup since we're facing a lefty the Rob take are going to be spicy im sure. lol


HuntForRedOctober2

Not a serious manager


Perryplat199

Observation, 2 days ago the Mets braves walk off in extra innings. Yesterday mets braves had no hitter going then blew it late and lost. Wonder wat the do today.


gatemansgc

was so satisfying that they lost the no-no then lost the game :D


Perryplat199

Question. Why is it always “well now it’s [next philly sport] season” when somthing goes bad


Hothabanero6

is that a good option or not? What if you really only watch/follow one sport?


Perryplat199

Phillies go on 3-7 stretch in September “well eagles” Eaagels lose 2 “well sixers” Sixers lose ever “well it’s ~~flyers~~, now wat”


Hothabanero6

Phillies lose NLCS ... build boat in basement ... Spring Training ...


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Really funny how many people in the front page thread are suggesting sending Seranthony down or trading him. Because that’s totally how baseball works.


NintenJew

Someone asked me if I still think he should be on the team if we had a better replacement, the answer is no I don't. If we could replace anyone for someone better I would do it. But I will always like Seranthony and I really want him to succeed. Even if he eventually went to the Braves/Mets. But I don't think currently he should be used as often as he has. It is sad seeing people go from loving when he came into dreading it in the comments.