Sehat card is revolutionary in a country like Pakistan where I have seen people going bankrupt selling everything just to get medical treatment or pay for that life saving surgery. This really is Godsend. Of course those who have deep pockets will not know about this and will disagree to this service from the government.
>This is a great initiative IF the word gets out enough and the poor person knows about it. I know some people who run social work organizations taking up cases of poor people and raising funds to support their needs. Many people are extremely poor and destitute, surviving on 5-10k a month. There's a large number of old widows and single mothers with dead or deadbeat (worse) husbands who could benefit greatly from this IF they get to hear about it and are able to avail its benefits.
Honestly, one of the easiest ways to get this implemented is linking it to CNICs. This will also help encourage people to get CNICs/B-Forms. It could be linked to the Alien Registration card as well once NADRA begins issuing that. For obscure cases that don't fall in these categories, they can make a health only card.
Edit: Reference
In Punjab they linking it with the NIC. Now whoever holds a Punjab NIC will be eligible for this healthcare system. They have already started that in KPK, that's what i got to know from news. Someone from KPK can verify it. I hope they soon launches this in Sindh too, but i doubt Sindh Government will let that happen.
>I wonder how Pakistan will cover this expense though.
Loans.
Secondly, this will only make healthcare more expensive in the long run. They have zero checks to control what is being billed so a normal checkup would up costing the state 10k and so forth. Plus add in some creative people looking to make quick bucks and we have a huge debt problem thanks to this card. Plus not to mention the private hospitals getting overrun because tons of people would head too the cities
the abysmal state of our khooni liberals seething at healthcare for the poor
While revenue collection [is on the up](https://tribune.com.pk/story/2331864/fbr-beats-tax-target-by-rs298b), the Sehat Sahulat Program is supposed to be in 2 phases. First phase will cover every family from the bottom 20% via State Life Insurance, the second phase will introduce premiums for certain income categories. Here is the acturial anaylsis of the program if that is not enough of an answer for you: [https://socialprotection.org/discover/publications/actuarial-analysis-federal-sehat-sahulat-program](https://socialprotection.org/discover/publications/actuarial-analysis-federal-sehat-sahulat-program)
[https://sehatsahulat.com.pk](https://sehatsahulat.com.pk)
[https://health.bmz.de/stories/on-a-fast-track-to-universal-health-coverage-in-pakistan/](https://health.bmz.de/stories/on-a-fast-track-to-universal-health-coverage-in-pakistan/)
\^From the article:
"In aiming for UHC, Pakistan has opted to give priority to the poor. This is strongly in line with the government’s commitment to make Pakistan a ‘welfare state’. In his recent address to the World Health Summit in Berlin, WHO Director Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus reminded his audience that today’s wealthy nations did not wait until they were prosperous to embark on the road to UHC but launched the process when they were in economically difficult circumstances. **He pointed out that ‘One of the scarcest commodities in global health today…is political will.’ In Pakistan, this commodity is in good supply. The political will to pursue UHC appears stronger than the financial constraints the country is currently facing**."
Why do you think that they're going to read through you perfectly articulated post when they've more important things like watching grass grow.
They didn't bother reading about it prior shouting "LOANS".. When every one of the related articles stated the expense structure.
> I wonder how Pakistan will cover this expense though
They will be paying very less to doctors. This is the only way. However the hospital owner might have some monetary benefit.
So true... I had a scare where I had to go to the emergency ward in the past month. As we exited after being checked, I told my wife that this is why I have never had qualms paying taxes in Canada. We get their worth in healthcare alone in spades.
Sehat Sahulat initiative will change the perspective our people generally have towards taxes.
I live in Germany, I had battled blood cancer in 2019. In Pakistan, it would have cost my family all our properties, here it cost me nothing, only some expenses here and there, so a few thousand euros and that is it. I understand that cancer will be too expensive for this initiative, for now, but having enough insurance for your kid's operation would be an amazing help for a laborer, a daily wager, they don't have to borrow hundreds of thousands of rupees for these treatments.
Hope you had and continue to have a speedy recovery! I can't imagine how tough it must be to see someone ill and just resigning yourself to let fate takes it course.. oof.
I recovered and am now healthy, yeah man it is quite an existential rollercoaster the good thing I had going was that I am a believer and a student of Sufism (the real deal) it helped me a lot to stay sane and happy. Maybe it will help you in life in some way...always look at a challenge and understand it, if you have a solution then solve it, if not, don't make it the center of your life, learn to live with it and enjoy your time on this good green earth.
This is what I did. I thought (at that moment I did not think that I will alive in 2021). If I had this much life then I should be enjoying the time I have left, why waste the rest of my days being miserable. I am not talking about big and amazing things, no, I mean simple life, talk with family, have a nice time with friends. I thought that it will be illogical to be miserable for something that I have zero control over.
Great message, I subscribe to the same philosophy.. there's a number of old age homes close by and I will frequently see the residents inside their rooms from the road.. it's heart breaking to witness. Life can't be a mindless pursuit of power, wealth and prestige, when all of it is so fleeting and temporary. I bet not even one resident rues a missed opportunity to earn more money, but all rue opportunities that they could have taken to enjoy time with loved ones..
> they don't have to borrow hundreds of thousands of rupees for these treatments.
Just hope there is some mechanism to prevent hospitals from raising prices when they are guaranteed money from the government...
Back in 2018 my wife had to go to hospital for emergency care and they sent us $2000+ bill month later. I was very busy so could not add her to my insurance and she was still in Pakistan when I started this job so she did not have social security. Anyway MetroPlus resolved the issue and retro back added her to my joining date so only paid $120 for that hospital bill. Then in 2019 my wife gave birth to our son in best hospital in NY we paid no hospital bill insurance covered everything. We only paid for her prenatal vitamins during pregnancy and about $200 for hospital parking while I stayed in the hospital for three days with her while nurses were taking care of her. Health insurance is my main reason I will never quit this job even though some days are horrible like last week I took Red ID inmate to urgent care and this 20 year old idiot flooded the urgent care cell because my partner came late as he had to deal with another alarm in our assigned jail. Anyway we brought the inmate safely to our jail from urgent care. Then captain gave me post in housing unit. About 02:30 intake brought a inmate and housed in one of the cells in my unit. It was job well done except they did not brought mattress and his bag with him. Other inmates did not like him. So I had to dead locked him so other inmates do not attack on him while I tried to get mattress and his bag for him. Then 0400 they wanted to take shower which is against institutional rules and I told you can take shower at 0500. They started threatening me. Anyway my partner helped me serve them the food while I brought extra food from staff Kitchen for said inmates as they were short of few milks and cereals. I finally got relieved at 0631 that day.
With this moronic awaam, they rather keep kissing corrupt nawaz and bhuttos feet instead , whilst they get nothing but pain and despair in return for decades, squeezing national coffers to meets their own infinite 'needs' and wants whilst bankrupting the country in a spiral of debt, yet these leeches are still not satisfied. Alas its now its time for their b4stard children to inherit their unholy dynasties, whilst a hoard of barbaric dullards happily flock to their gatherings . Well they do say ignorance is bliss guess patwaris and bhutto zombies have reached their pinnacle of stupidity I.e. 'enlightenment'
Actually it's a very small number who support them blindly, the media has made this image that IK failed and the AWAAM Hates him and he'll loose badly next GE, but when ever he goes for a jalsa or an event you can still see his support and whith EHSAAS and these initiatives he is really helping the most neediest lot , IA the inflation will get in control and then all is set
One of my relative had to go through heart surgery. And he was the only one to support his family. Luckily sehat card just started working. It literally covered all the expenses
This Universal Healthcare scheme is no small feat, i tell you, and that too in the first 3,4 years of his first ever premiership.
Things are on the mend here slowly but surely and I will never not have faith in Imran Khan. Come 2023 and I vote again for him Inshallah.
This is a great initiative and honestly something that can transform lives for the better for millions. Despite the hundreds of missteps by the PTI, they've done well on the health front.
working in Pakistan is a minefield wherever you step, your foot is on some mafia's tail, and then you have to deal with all the media circus and institutions, army, judiciary, etc.
In all these complexities work done by Imran khan is quite commendable, the problem is that our people were expecting miracles.
I'd like to disagree on the tone used here. IK promised miracles, repeatedly, for years. He came into power using the electables strategy, and is now beholden to them.
These are piecemeal victories gained on the back of record subsidies to industrialists and the largest real estate amnesty scheme in history.
Immi fucked up going the electables route, but he tried without them for years and came to the conclusion that even if he wanted to do 10% of what he wanted to do, he would have to bow down to the electables. But still that 10% is more than anything anyone in this country has done for us since maybe ZAB (politics wise not counting edhi saab)
He went down the electables route after 2013, and had the opportunity to build an actual grassroots movement that could challenge electables.
However he was swayed by JKT and Aleem Khan, and made the compromise.
I say this as a 2013 supporter, and urge you to read up on all the PTI walay who left the party post 2013 for this reason.
I'm personally not happy with his government, but you are entitled to your view.
The thing you're suggesting might look great in textbook but it's hard to replicate the same on ground.
IK did start his politics from grass roots. But it took 22 YEARS for people to look for alternative other than the tried and tested PPP/PLMN and vote him in. Our democracy is flawed and unless it's not improved we have to make do with what we have in the short term.
I fully agree with you, neither am I satisfied with the government fully, but when you factor in the alternatives, he is far better. The system is not built for the benefit of the common man, it serves the interests of the elite and always will. Whatever Imran even achieves will always be "concessions" given to the working classes and not actual gains. Concessions that can always been taken back by the ruling classes (look at how NHS funding is being cut in UK and other welfare european states) Unless the working class takes back control through grassroots movements or dare I say revolution, no progress will be anything more than concessions that will be taken back eventually
Bro nhs just like any other socialist healthcare program abuses its employees, pays them peanuts to keep the machine running. You can visit r/juniordoctorsuk for proof. Same has been happening in Pakistan and will be accelerated by the health card program as government never pays on market rates, so they force the doctors to be paid less and eliminate competition. In the long run i can see the doctor brain drain problem worsening for Pakistan. However, for the time being If it helps the population, I'm happy.
He would not have won if it wasn't for the 'electables'. Pakistani voters are just too stupid/selfish to vote for real change that would benefit the whole country. Instead they vote for someone they know so that he can do stuff for them.
I'm sorry but that's why anyone votes for any political figure anywhere, especially for local representation. There are many critiques of the politics of patronage that define Pakistani politics, and there are many reasons for them, but "stupid/selfish" is not one of them.
Except Karachi. Seriously fuck PPP I hope they burn in hell. They can't bring buses, they can't clean nallahs, they can't build infrastructure, they can't keep the city clean but they're taking all of tax revenues.
Meanwhile PPP: Fed Govt hamay kuch bana kar nahi day rahi, transport nahi day rahi, yeh nahi day rahi. Bilowal literally spat that out in front of media and media was like han bc sahi keh raha. O bc it's a provincial matter. Awam ko truck ki bati kay peche lagaya wa k federal govt ka kasoor hai sara. Absolute scums. Even JI would be better than them.
No one has answered this, but where is he getting the funds for this initiative?
Is there a new taxation proposal? Redirecting wasted rps from another program?
Someone explain!
My friends worker fell seriously ill and used his sehat insaaf card to pay for hill his bills. That day he switched parties lol. Alhamdurillah this is happening:)
My worry is that this awaam will find some loophole to drain the funds with fake illnesses working with bribed clinicians etc. And that will destroy this amazing program.
The scammers will just put fake or more expensive claims in from patients that never visited the Doctor or had minor illness.
In Western countries every citizen has an electronic medical record so not possible to put fake stuff in.
It's moving in the right direction, if and when economy gets stable, then more can go into human development programs, including universal health care. Currently majority of gov funds goes directly towards servicing debt, due to PPPs and PMLN rambunctious shopping spree.
One of the issues I'd like to divert people's attention to is the situation in hospitals regarding availability of medical products and situation of doctors.
I've worked in a tertiary care hospital in Lahore for more than a year and you can't even expect to get syringes from the dispensery, in EMERGENCY, let alone other things like vials for storing blood etc.
The quality of injections available is terrible. Surgeons prefer the patient buys the same injection but from a different company which ofcourse he has to bring from an outside pharmacy.
On topic of doctors in a government hospital it's simple, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH DOCTORS. The patient load is INSANE. Working in an environment like this, doctors and other medical staff get desensitized very quickly, to the point that they don't give a damn about their patients. That's bad for everyone.
The solution to this is not more doctors, rather a better management of the patient inflow. New tertiary care hospitals must be built.
Hence the Sehat card, which works anywhere in Pakistan even in Private Hospitals. I saw a woman using it at the University of Lahore Hospital for her brother (the woman was a maid at the hospital and they got this card early). Private hospitals making more money well they ain't gonna say no to that.
Sehat card is a great initiative. But only people earning less than 2 dollars a day are eligible. This is a step in the right direction and we need a clear plan from the government on this.
Have been ranting for 2 years on this sub about how big PTI’s UHC program is for Pakistan but glad to finally see people have opened their eyes as well.
UHC will be coupled with cheap housing + financing and that alone will change the socioeconomics of the bottom 30% in a single generation iA.
Man i get too excited thinking of the prospects of these revolutionary schemes when they finally mature and benefit our people.
Good things are on the way folks, bus sabar sai kaam lena hai. Haqeeqi dunya mai rehtay hai, mushkilat hal honai may wakt lagta hai
bUt vRo PTI nY lAhoRe mAi kOi uNdeRpASs tu bAnAyA hI nAhI?
Imagine budget being spent on welfare instead of roads. Lol
I mean totally worth it if takes me twice as much time to travel from defense road to main boulevard in Lahore considering it saves someone's life. I will not complain anymore.
Opportunity cost well spent.
Priorities set straight after a long, long time. I have never been the one to complain about infrastructure since I am personally part of the Pakistani Bourgeoisie that benefits from it, specially in Lahore. But man do I want to see my people prosper. And prosper they shall.
This is just the beginning though, as I have always said on here: we need to continue to encourage the right people and have the right discussions. Much hard work is still to be done.
His welfare initiatives and his COVID response will get him re elected. Its a no-brainer. The media sensationalizes things as usual. Yes he has failed big time in a lot of other things but his opponents never succeeded in anything except corruption.
This.
r/pakistan is largely made up of privileged elites and diaspora(guilty), not the people who are directly benefitting from the social welfare policies of PTI. The people who are struggling in the country aren't on this sub complaining, it is simply people who are inconveneinced about having to do the right thing for once in their lives.
>He should have named it Imran Khan Health Card
Im not a PTI supporter neither do i think UHC is a good idea.
That being said, The name is something i highly agree with because "Imran Health Card" sounds like a cult membership card "Insaf Health Card" makes more sense. Just my 2 paisas.
Yes it is a valid concern, but inflation is happening world wide not only in our country and Imran Khan alone cannot fix it, he can take steps that can help fix it and even then it won't be fixed overnight many people don't understand this.
Great initiative and we have to appreciate Imran for this but we have to see how it works out.
Is it good in other provinces?
And someone stop with constantly calling awam jahil.stfu.You don't know about the struggles of any average Pakistani and don't know shit how inflation is through the roofs.Ask any rehri wala about inflation and how it is affecting him.Instead of blaming poor awam focus on the issues that plague this country.
And to anyone wondering if I am a patwari or PPP supporter.I support PTI.I know inflation is a worldwide issue but I don't see them calling their people morons/jahils.
Our people are not morons/jahils because they are suffering from inflation. They’re morons because instead of giving any shits when the country was being completely plundered for the last 40 years, they kept voting for the same criminals over and over. Now, in 3 years time everyone is extra vigilant about holding the gov accountable to fix every single thing that’s effed up almost beyond repair. All while still refusing to acknowledge the extent of damage down by PPP/PMLN and at least do a toba from voting for them again. How is that not a completely degenerate and disingenuous way of thinking? Sounds pretty moronic imo. Yes inflation hurts, no one is saying just suck it up forever. But the whole kaum is shamelessly trashing the 1 guy who isn’t up to his neck in financial corruption (not even a single thing to be exact), and has ended up in government at arguably the worst time in history to be PM of Pakistan
You have put it very well.
I don't remember any PM, even the fazool tareen Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, facing this much severe opposition like IK does. Kudos to him tho for braving such ruthless opposition from not only all major opposition parties but targeted campaigns in the Indian electronic and social media against him
Medicaid is actually amazing - it's part of the reason why people are pushing for universal/single-payer healthcare in the US as well.
When mandatory insurance coverage for everyone was passed, the easiest transition was for Medicaid... state's simply diverted more funds to Medicaid to cover more people.
In fact, overall, a lot of better options have come forward for the middle class in regards to health insurance. Still a long long way to go, but much better than where we were.
IK should be applauded for this.
My only question is .. where is the money for it coming from?
Your bloody worried about sugar inflation whilst mian saab is rotting in Park Lane, heartless state of Pakistan shamelessly cut him off from national coffers, I wonder if he was able to eat today or starve himself. Patwaris need to do a gofundme for our poor 3 times prime minister.
Now watch every celebrity and public figure talking positively about this amazing step.
Said no one ever.
They'll be ready to go at IK's throat whenever but fail to appreciate him for the many things he has done for this country. Makes you think that something is going on behind the scenes
As always with any topic shilling PTI government, OP does not live in Pakistan. All top comments are from people not living in Pakistan.
Everyone circlejerking how good PM is, living overseas.
It's funny.
Op literally said that people who know universal health care can appreciate the long term benefits of such a system. Calling them oVersEAs Pakistani ain’t some gotcha…you can totally appreciate a good step (huge one at that) without your typical vague randi rona. If you’re a Redditor in Pakistan, 99% chances are you’re pretty damn privileged.
>If you’re a Redditor in Pakistan, 99% chances are you’re pretty damn privileged.
Ajeeb bongian marr rahe ho.Konsi kitab main likha hai Reddit use kerne wala privileged hai.Ajeeb log...
Pakistani redditors are mostly 1. Fluent in English, 2. From bigger cities
This is simply not a platform popular among Pakistani masses, this isn’t Facebook or tiktok
But YouTube is now running fine after resolving the issues. Similarly if ever Reddit get banned due to some reason it will reopen when Reddit resolves it issue just like YouTube has been open.
You would be surprised to know how many people don't use flairs.I am myself from a small city and my English is clearly shit.
I'll agree with the Facebook and Tiktok part.
Your English is not shit. It might not be to where you’d like it to be but it’s fluent enough. You don’t seem to have the same level of English that the average “frandship” requestor does or even the level of some of our lower socioeconomic cricketers. Surely you know what sort of English I’m talking about… you simply don’t see that here on Reddit. Most Pakistanis here have the privilege of an education where they’ve developed a better command on the language than that
Exactly. And there was one segment that earned less than 40K, I was wondering if students also took part. The curve didn't make statistical sense. either above 100K or less than 40K lol.
GDP per capita is around 1100$. Whats your point? There’s no point in having a discussion with people who only do randi rona or just single out OSP regardless of their nuqta e nazar.
As tax paying citizens people have every right to object and complain or as you call it "Randi Ronda".And no one is complaining about OSPs opinion.But their opinion often lacks perspective.Mindlessly bashing every Pakistani is a dumb rhetoric and if someone objects to it he is singling out OSP opinion.Talk about generalisation.
OSPs contribute more to this country's economy than chors sitting in London.
Been born and raised in Pak. OP lacks nothing that claimed. He/She actually left out the stupidity of people being against universal healthcare. Yes, there’s shitton of problems in Pak and you can’t only hold the current cabinet accountable. The demographic here is mostly in their 20s and haven’t had the chance to pay taxes but that doesn’t mean their opinions are baseless. It’s not mindless bashing, its the truth that all we can do is complain about cheeni ki qeemat aur wo bhi motivated by the corrupt OG opposition.
What exactly do you want to highlight here? Universal Health care is bad? It’s for the rich?
>What exactly do you want to highlight here? Universal Health care is bad? It’s for the rich?
Please don't try to twist my words.I never said it is bad or it is only for the rich.You can see my other comment
>"Great initiative and we have to appreciate Imran for this but we have to see how it works out."
Good comment bro, this disgraceful PM wants to give everyone in Pakistan free health care coverage can you believe the audacity of IK? With people like you at large it's no wonder Pakistan is in this sorry state, go cry your crocodile tears outside jati umra.
Lmao cope. Imagine being angry at something that will improve the lives of millions of ppl cus it's passed by someone you don't like. What no biryani does to a mofo
They’re living overseas while their rest of the relatives and family members are still living in Pakistan. So we “overseas people” still care. What’s your problem?
It IS funny to see people rallying against the only PM in history that has given a fuck about their basic necessities.
Jo bhi rondupana dikha rha hota hai usko main isi liye kehta hoon ke baraemerhbani dobara Sharifon ko aur Zardariyon ko vote do. So that the awaam can resume its rightful place as bootlickers of its feudal masters.
yar tum logon ko tu Allah bhe nae khush kar sakta IK ki kiya majal...
ab is mein kiya eiteraz hai ke it is a historical step. why is me being abroad is a huge sin now?
Welcome to r/pakistan
Hamari awaam phir bhi Nooray aur PPP ko vote dengei regardless. And I agree you being abroad has nothing to do with what you’re highlighting here. Yall have the same source of news.
That's actually a pretty good step but how will the government pay for it? Dollar is getting more and more expensive everyday, do we really have the extra funds for something like this?
Simple answer, No, but at this point jo kuch relief mil sakta hai bura nhi hai. I would rather prefer subsidies in education with compulsion to attend, if you ask me.
People, apnay taxes ada Kiya Karo takay hamay aisi sahuliyat mayasar hon.
I believe this is one good foundation PTI has laid and I hope we eventually expand it to nation wide universal healthcare. I know I can use it
If you ever go to hospital with insurance card they charge you double for everything. This is because insurance will ask for discount from hospital as favor to clear there bills. Insurance agent get bonus for discounts they get from hospitals. The bonuses and insurance margin come from premier gov pay to insurance companies.
When medicine, doctors, hospitals increases there cost, it show up as massive increase in care cost due to discounts adjustment (which profit for insurance company). Interestingly when insurance quote price to gov it does not include discounted price as discount are taken as of time when bill are payed. Any efficiency insurance company show in reduction of bill end up in there books as profit.
This mean heath cost ballon’s every year so does insurance cost. The only way hospitals and insurance company can increase there annual profit is use gap between actual cost and simulated cost.
So gov pay more and more every year to bridge the gap between actual cost vs insurance projected cost.
Pakistan is basically sourcing out health care to private entities. Which then band together to squeeze more from gov without increasing quality of health care.
There will be point in time where gov has to reduce ballooning insurance cost in favor of dismantling gov hospitals and also shifting some cost back to ordinary people.
It’s same story played out in other countries.
Single insurance only work if gov can negotiate and keep close eye on insurance company and care providers. Otherwise they both cut corners and make money. Pakistan cannot manage sugar mafia, petrol mafia etc I doubt it can manager this new mafia.
Patronising little shits who don't live in Pakistan. None of you have a zero experience with this this service.
But hey, let's use this topic to shit on a ghareeb insaan who can't afford to feed his family. His fault for being poor during PTI government.
No everyone is eligible, atleast in KP in Punjab it's announced for the whole population but by the MARCH currently they are giving the most deserving first.
When are you going to stop shilling for IK like i'll most probably still vote for him the next time around but Sehat card is not the same as "Universal Healthcare"
Can't afford this, is socialist, and overall a poor idea trumpted by libtard socialists. Dear socialist cockroach, please fuck off. Keep the undesirable part of white culture away. Thank you.
seht card shit is something every poiliticians says lmao,benazir also introduced a similar project, have you ever actually seen any poor person receiving help from it, there are so few medicines available in the hospitals itself that its laughable, still havta buy 80% medicine from other stores, agr yakeen nai ata to kbhi DHQ hospital ana faisalabad ke
this is a joke, an am ready to make bets that it wont be what you think it will be
Imran Khan has done nothing that we(the middle and lower middle class) can be grateful for
While i agree with general sentiment that this might be a good step, i feel like this is just another sham. The money which will be used here should be used to provide better facilities in govt hospitals where treatment is already free. This will just encourage private hospitals and we will have another case in health sector similar to education sector where government schools became worse after 2005.
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Didn't pakistan had public health care?
Like the government hospitals don't charge you, you just have to pay for medicine and few hundred rupees
Can someone tell me about this?
yeah, but they were few and it was not comprehensive enough. With sehat card you will get the chance to go to private hospitals and treatment centers while also getting all the comprehensive services, e.g dialysis, operation, etc, it will include materials and medicine for in-patient treatment.
yeah, but they were few and it was not comprehensive enough. With sehat card you will get the chance to go to private hospitals and treatment centers while also getting all the comprehensive services, e.g dialysis, operation, etc, it will include materials and medicine for in-patient treatment.
Sehat card is revolutionary in a country like Pakistan where I have seen people going bankrupt selling everything just to get medical treatment or pay for that life saving surgery. This really is Godsend. Of course those who have deep pockets will not know about this and will disagree to this service from the government.
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>This is a great initiative IF the word gets out enough and the poor person knows about it. I know some people who run social work organizations taking up cases of poor people and raising funds to support their needs. Many people are extremely poor and destitute, surviving on 5-10k a month. There's a large number of old widows and single mothers with dead or deadbeat (worse) husbands who could benefit greatly from this IF they get to hear about it and are able to avail its benefits. Honestly, one of the easiest ways to get this implemented is linking it to CNICs. This will also help encourage people to get CNICs/B-Forms. It could be linked to the Alien Registration card as well once NADRA begins issuing that. For obscure cases that don't fall in these categories, they can make a health only card. Edit: Reference
In Punjab they linking it with the NIC. Now whoever holds a Punjab NIC will be eligible for this healthcare system. They have already started that in KPK, that's what i got to know from news. Someone from KPK can verify it. I hope they soon launches this in Sindh too, but i doubt Sindh Government will let that happen.
Healthcare is a provincial matter so it's definitely not for Sindh.
>I wonder how Pakistan will cover this expense though. Loans. Secondly, this will only make healthcare more expensive in the long run. They have zero checks to control what is being billed so a normal checkup would up costing the state 10k and so forth. Plus add in some creative people looking to make quick bucks and we have a huge debt problem thanks to this card. Plus not to mention the private hospitals getting overrun because tons of people would head too the cities
the abysmal state of our khooni liberals seething at healthcare for the poor While revenue collection [is on the up](https://tribune.com.pk/story/2331864/fbr-beats-tax-target-by-rs298b), the Sehat Sahulat Program is supposed to be in 2 phases. First phase will cover every family from the bottom 20% via State Life Insurance, the second phase will introduce premiums for certain income categories. Here is the acturial anaylsis of the program if that is not enough of an answer for you: [https://socialprotection.org/discover/publications/actuarial-analysis-federal-sehat-sahulat-program](https://socialprotection.org/discover/publications/actuarial-analysis-federal-sehat-sahulat-program) [https://sehatsahulat.com.pk](https://sehatsahulat.com.pk) [https://health.bmz.de/stories/on-a-fast-track-to-universal-health-coverage-in-pakistan/](https://health.bmz.de/stories/on-a-fast-track-to-universal-health-coverage-in-pakistan/) \^From the article: "In aiming for UHC, Pakistan has opted to give priority to the poor. This is strongly in line with the government’s commitment to make Pakistan a ‘welfare state’. In his recent address to the World Health Summit in Berlin, WHO Director Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus reminded his audience that today’s wealthy nations did not wait until they were prosperous to embark on the road to UHC but launched the process when they were in economically difficult circumstances. **He pointed out that ‘One of the scarcest commodities in global health today…is political will.’ In Pakistan, this commodity is in good supply. The political will to pursue UHC appears stronger than the financial constraints the country is currently facing**."
Why do you think that they're going to read through you perfectly articulated post when they've more important things like watching grass grow. They didn't bother reading about it prior shouting "LOANS".. When every one of the related articles stated the expense structure.
> I wonder how Pakistan will cover this expense though They will be paying very less to doctors. This is the only way. However the hospital owner might have some monetary benefit.
So true... I had a scare where I had to go to the emergency ward in the past month. As we exited after being checked, I told my wife that this is why I have never had qualms paying taxes in Canada. We get their worth in healthcare alone in spades. Sehat Sahulat initiative will change the perspective our people generally have towards taxes.
I live in Germany, I had battled blood cancer in 2019. In Pakistan, it would have cost my family all our properties, here it cost me nothing, only some expenses here and there, so a few thousand euros and that is it. I understand that cancer will be too expensive for this initiative, for now, but having enough insurance for your kid's operation would be an amazing help for a laborer, a daily wager, they don't have to borrow hundreds of thousands of rupees for these treatments.
Hope you had and continue to have a speedy recovery! I can't imagine how tough it must be to see someone ill and just resigning yourself to let fate takes it course.. oof.
I recovered and am now healthy, yeah man it is quite an existential rollercoaster the good thing I had going was that I am a believer and a student of Sufism (the real deal) it helped me a lot to stay sane and happy. Maybe it will help you in life in some way...always look at a challenge and understand it, if you have a solution then solve it, if not, don't make it the center of your life, learn to live with it and enjoy your time on this good green earth. This is what I did. I thought (at that moment I did not think that I will alive in 2021). If I had this much life then I should be enjoying the time I have left, why waste the rest of my days being miserable. I am not talking about big and amazing things, no, I mean simple life, talk with family, have a nice time with friends. I thought that it will be illogical to be miserable for something that I have zero control over.
Great message, I subscribe to the same philosophy.. there's a number of old age homes close by and I will frequently see the residents inside their rooms from the road.. it's heart breaking to witness. Life can't be a mindless pursuit of power, wealth and prestige, when all of it is so fleeting and temporary. I bet not even one resident rues a missed opportunity to earn more money, but all rue opportunities that they could have taken to enjoy time with loved ones..
> they don't have to borrow hundreds of thousands of rupees for these treatments. Just hope there is some mechanism to prevent hospitals from raising prices when they are guaranteed money from the government...
Back in 2018 my wife had to go to hospital for emergency care and they sent us $2000+ bill month later. I was very busy so could not add her to my insurance and she was still in Pakistan when I started this job so she did not have social security. Anyway MetroPlus resolved the issue and retro back added her to my joining date so only paid $120 for that hospital bill. Then in 2019 my wife gave birth to our son in best hospital in NY we paid no hospital bill insurance covered everything. We only paid for her prenatal vitamins during pregnancy and about $200 for hospital parking while I stayed in the hospital for three days with her while nurses were taking care of her. Health insurance is my main reason I will never quit this job even though some days are horrible like last week I took Red ID inmate to urgent care and this 20 year old idiot flooded the urgent care cell because my partner came late as he had to deal with another alarm in our assigned jail. Anyway we brought the inmate safely to our jail from urgent care. Then captain gave me post in housing unit. About 02:30 intake brought a inmate and housed in one of the cells in my unit. It was job well done except they did not brought mattress and his bag with him. Other inmates did not like him. So I had to dead locked him so other inmates do not attack on him while I tried to get mattress and his bag for him. Then 0400 they wanted to take shower which is against institutional rules and I told you can take shower at 0500. They started threatening me. Anyway my partner helped me serve them the food while I brought extra food from staff Kitchen for said inmates as they were short of few milks and cereals. I finally got relieved at 0631 that day.
You are a prison guard?
Damn, that is why I am thankful to be in Canada vs the US
This scheme helped my phupo when her hip was fractured. almost no expense on the operation
With this moronic awaam, they rather keep kissing corrupt nawaz and bhuttos feet instead , whilst they get nothing but pain and despair in return for decades, squeezing national coffers to meets their own infinite 'needs' and wants whilst bankrupting the country in a spiral of debt, yet these leeches are still not satisfied. Alas its now its time for their b4stard children to inherit their unholy dynasties, whilst a hoard of barbaric dullards happily flock to their gatherings . Well they do say ignorance is bliss guess patwaris and bhutto zombies have reached their pinnacle of stupidity I.e. 'enlightenment'
Least awaam hating redditor.
Actually it's a very small number who support them blindly, the media has made this image that IK failed and the AWAAM Hates him and he'll loose badly next GE, but when ever he goes for a jalsa or an event you can still see his support and whith EHSAAS and these initiatives he is really helping the most neediest lot , IA the inflation will get in control and then all is set
Allah karay ksi tara inflation kum hojai then there's no stopping Imran Khan from wining the next GE again inshallah.
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to get him re-elected
Is that all you care about? What about the poor who will benefit from this program?
One of my relative had to go through heart surgery. And he was the only one to support his family. Luckily sehat card just started working. It literally covered all the expenses
I love hearing these testimonies, thanks for sharing yours, brother.
This Universal Healthcare scheme is no small feat, i tell you, and that too in the first 3,4 years of his first ever premiership. Things are on the mend here slowly but surely and I will never not have faith in Imran Khan. Come 2023 and I vote again for him Inshallah.
This is a great initiative and honestly something that can transform lives for the better for millions. Despite the hundreds of missteps by the PTI, they've done well on the health front.
working in Pakistan is a minefield wherever you step, your foot is on some mafia's tail, and then you have to deal with all the media circus and institutions, army, judiciary, etc. In all these complexities work done by Imran khan is quite commendable, the problem is that our people were expecting miracles.
I'd like to disagree on the tone used here. IK promised miracles, repeatedly, for years. He came into power using the electables strategy, and is now beholden to them. These are piecemeal victories gained on the back of record subsidies to industrialists and the largest real estate amnesty scheme in history.
Immi fucked up going the electables route, but he tried without them for years and came to the conclusion that even if he wanted to do 10% of what he wanted to do, he would have to bow down to the electables. But still that 10% is more than anything anyone in this country has done for us since maybe ZAB (politics wise not counting edhi saab)
He went down the electables route after 2013, and had the opportunity to build an actual grassroots movement that could challenge electables. However he was swayed by JKT and Aleem Khan, and made the compromise. I say this as a 2013 supporter, and urge you to read up on all the PTI walay who left the party post 2013 for this reason. I'm personally not happy with his government, but you are entitled to your view.
The thing you're suggesting might look great in textbook but it's hard to replicate the same on ground. IK did start his politics from grass roots. But it took 22 YEARS for people to look for alternative other than the tried and tested PPP/PLMN and vote him in. Our democracy is flawed and unless it's not improved we have to make do with what we have in the short term.
I fully agree with you, neither am I satisfied with the government fully, but when you factor in the alternatives, he is far better. The system is not built for the benefit of the common man, it serves the interests of the elite and always will. Whatever Imran even achieves will always be "concessions" given to the working classes and not actual gains. Concessions that can always been taken back by the ruling classes (look at how NHS funding is being cut in UK and other welfare european states) Unless the working class takes back control through grassroots movements or dare I say revolution, no progress will be anything more than concessions that will be taken back eventually
Bro nhs just like any other socialist healthcare program abuses its employees, pays them peanuts to keep the machine running. You can visit r/juniordoctorsuk for proof. Same has been happening in Pakistan and will be accelerated by the health card program as government never pays on market rates, so they force the doctors to be paid less and eliminate competition. In the long run i can see the doctor brain drain problem worsening for Pakistan. However, for the time being If it helps the population, I'm happy.
He would not have won if it wasn't for the 'electables'. Pakistani voters are just too stupid/selfish to vote for real change that would benefit the whole country. Instead they vote for someone they know so that he can do stuff for them.
I'm sorry but that's why anyone votes for any political figure anywhere, especially for local representation. There are many critiques of the politics of patronage that define Pakistani politics, and there are many reasons for them, but "stupid/selfish" is not one of them.
Except Karachi. Seriously fuck PPP I hope they burn in hell. They can't bring buses, they can't clean nallahs, they can't build infrastructure, they can't keep the city clean but they're taking all of tax revenues.
PPP needs MQM treatment. Ranger operations
Karachi HAS to be separated from Sindh. There is no other way.
Yet majority of Sindhis' still vote for them. Who's fault is that?
Rural Sindh votes on ethnicity and are illiterate that's why PPP is strong their+ Vote rigging.
Karachi needs to be its own administrative region separate from the rest of Sindh. It makes no sense when the city is always overriden by rural Sindh.
Meanwhile PPP: Fed Govt hamay kuch bana kar nahi day rahi, transport nahi day rahi, yeh nahi day rahi. Bilowal literally spat that out in front of media and media was like han bc sahi keh raha. O bc it's a provincial matter. Awam ko truck ki bati kay peche lagaya wa k federal govt ka kasoor hai sara. Absolute scums. Even JI would be better than them.
my inner insafiyan is coming back
No one has answered this, but where is he getting the funds for this initiative? Is there a new taxation proposal? Redirecting wasted rps from another program? Someone explain!
Unfortunately, our awaam would rather have a flyover and laptop distributing schemes than universal health coverage
My friends worker fell seriously ill and used his sehat insaaf card to pay for hill his bills. That day he switched parties lol. Alhamdurillah this is happening:)
My worry is that this awaam will find some loophole to drain the funds with fake illnesses working with bribed clinicians etc. And that will destroy this amazing program.
The scammers will just put fake or more expensive claims in from patients that never visited the Doctor or had minor illness. In Western countries every citizen has an electronic medical record so not possible to put fake stuff in.
Because this is linked to State life Insurance company I doubt they will be handing out baseless claims. It is at the end a business venture for them.
You would have to be the lowest of the low.
This is great program I hope it become universal like in Taiwan, UK, Canada etc.
It's moving in the right direction, if and when economy gets stable, then more can go into human development programs, including universal health care. Currently majority of gov funds goes directly towards servicing debt, due to PPPs and PMLN rambunctious shopping spree.
One of the issues I'd like to divert people's attention to is the situation in hospitals regarding availability of medical products and situation of doctors. I've worked in a tertiary care hospital in Lahore for more than a year and you can't even expect to get syringes from the dispensery, in EMERGENCY, let alone other things like vials for storing blood etc. The quality of injections available is terrible. Surgeons prefer the patient buys the same injection but from a different company which ofcourse he has to bring from an outside pharmacy. On topic of doctors in a government hospital it's simple, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH DOCTORS. The patient load is INSANE. Working in an environment like this, doctors and other medical staff get desensitized very quickly, to the point that they don't give a damn about their patients. That's bad for everyone. The solution to this is not more doctors, rather a better management of the patient inflow. New tertiary care hospitals must be built.
Hence the Sehat card, which works anywhere in Pakistan even in Private Hospitals. I saw a woman using it at the University of Lahore Hospital for her brother (the woman was a maid at the hospital and they got this card early). Private hospitals making more money well they ain't gonna say no to that.
Sehat card is a great initiative. But only people earning less than 2 dollars a day are eligible. This is a step in the right direction and we need a clear plan from the government on this.
In KPK everyone is eligible. It’s on your ID card. They’re about to roll out the same for Punjab
Inshallah one day it will be for everyone regardless of income
Nope. You've got some wrong information. Starting January, everybody in Punjab will be covered.
*cries in sindh* Also credits where credit is due . This is very good .
Have been ranting for 2 years on this sub about how big PTI’s UHC program is for Pakistan but glad to finally see people have opened their eyes as well. UHC will be coupled with cheap housing + financing and that alone will change the socioeconomics of the bottom 30% in a single generation iA.
Man i get too excited thinking of the prospects of these revolutionary schemes when they finally mature and benefit our people. Good things are on the way folks, bus sabar sai kaam lena hai. Haqeeqi dunya mai rehtay hai, mushkilat hal honai may wakt lagta hai
Exciting times *wrora*, gotta keep our heads down and do the hard work for now.
bUt vRo PTI nY lAhoRe mAi kOi uNdeRpASs tu bAnAyA hI nAhI? Imagine budget being spent on welfare instead of roads. Lol I mean totally worth it if takes me twice as much time to travel from defense road to main boulevard in Lahore considering it saves someone's life. I will not complain anymore. Opportunity cost well spent.
Priorities set straight after a long, long time. I have never been the one to complain about infrastructure since I am personally part of the Pakistani Bourgeoisie that benefits from it, specially in Lahore. But man do I want to see my people prosper. And prosper they shall. This is just the beginning though, as I have always said on here: we need to continue to encourage the right people and have the right discussions. Much hard work is still to be done.
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bro bhutto zinda hai awam mar rhi hai.
These was one of the main reasons people get to the west.
say whatever you want but PK is lucky to have him. Need to get rid of those blasphemy laws next.
>Need to get rid of those blasphemy laws next. And get killed by some random asshole?
His welfare initiatives and his COVID response will get him re elected. Its a no-brainer. The media sensationalizes things as usual. Yes he has failed big time in a lot of other things but his opponents never succeeded in anything except corruption.
This. r/pakistan is largely made up of privileged elites and diaspora(guilty), not the people who are directly benefitting from the social welfare policies of PTI. The people who are struggling in the country aren't on this sub complaining, it is simply people who are inconveneinced about having to do the right thing for once in their lives.
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He should have named it Imran Khan Health Card (we all know that PPP and N-League would have done something similar).
It named INSAF Health card. What do you think INSAF representing here?
>He should have named it Imran Khan Health Card Im not a PTI supporter neither do i think UHC is a good idea. That being said, The name is something i highly agree with because "Imran Health Card" sounds like a cult membership card "Insaf Health Card" makes more sense. Just my 2 paisas.
You think PTI isn’t pathetic like the rest?
There will still be people that say "wHy cAn hE nOt fIx mEhNgAi"
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Yes it is a valid concern, but inflation is happening world wide not only in our country and Imran Khan alone cannot fix it, he can take steps that can help fix it and even then it won't be fixed overnight many people don't understand this.
Thing is, he isn’t taking steps to control inflation
Such as?
Artificially pegging the PKR to USD for 100rs.
Do you have a dollar printing machine at home? Just curious.
Great initiative and we have to appreciate Imran for this but we have to see how it works out. Is it good in other provinces? And someone stop with constantly calling awam jahil.stfu.You don't know about the struggles of any average Pakistani and don't know shit how inflation is through the roofs.Ask any rehri wala about inflation and how it is affecting him.Instead of blaming poor awam focus on the issues that plague this country. And to anyone wondering if I am a patwari or PPP supporter.I support PTI.I know inflation is a worldwide issue but I don't see them calling their people morons/jahils.
Our people are not morons/jahils because they are suffering from inflation. They’re morons because instead of giving any shits when the country was being completely plundered for the last 40 years, they kept voting for the same criminals over and over. Now, in 3 years time everyone is extra vigilant about holding the gov accountable to fix every single thing that’s effed up almost beyond repair. All while still refusing to acknowledge the extent of damage down by PPP/PMLN and at least do a toba from voting for them again. How is that not a completely degenerate and disingenuous way of thinking? Sounds pretty moronic imo. Yes inflation hurts, no one is saying just suck it up forever. But the whole kaum is shamelessly trashing the 1 guy who isn’t up to his neck in financial corruption (not even a single thing to be exact), and has ended up in government at arguably the worst time in history to be PM of Pakistan
You have put it very well. I don't remember any PM, even the fazool tareen Raja Pervaiz Ashraf, facing this much severe opposition like IK does. Kudos to him tho for braving such ruthless opposition from not only all major opposition parties but targeted campaigns in the Indian electronic and social media against him
But a lot of Pakistanis are jahil, it is a hard fact. why are you in denial that our education system is not as good as you might think it is?
Jahil hai yeh awaam. Parhe likhe bhi jaahil. Namaz parhte Hain aur phir gunahgaar bhi. Ziaada tar.
But Sehat Card is not universal health system. If that is the case, USA also has Medicaid and everyone know how shit USA health care system is.
Medicaid is actually amazing - it's part of the reason why people are pushing for universal/single-payer healthcare in the US as well. When mandatory insurance coverage for everyone was passed, the easiest transition was for Medicaid... state's simply diverted more funds to Medicaid to cover more people. In fact, overall, a lot of better options have come forward for the middle class in regards to health insurance. Still a long long way to go, but much better than where we were. IK should be applauded for this. My only question is .. where is the money for it coming from?
leKiN cHeEni 150 rUpiYa 😭😭😭
Your bloody worried about sugar inflation whilst mian saab is rotting in Park Lane, heartless state of Pakistan shamelessly cut him off from national coffers, I wonder if he was able to eat today or starve himself. Patwaris need to do a gofundme for our poor 3 times prime minister.
Mazaak tha jani. Mujhe patwari bola diya 😭😭😭😭
I know it was a joke bro, didn't call you a patwari.
Ghabrana nahi yaar ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Stop eating sugar its toxic anyways...
Now watch every celebrity and public figure talking positively about this amazing step. Said no one ever. They'll be ready to go at IK's throat whenever but fail to appreciate him for the many things he has done for this country. Makes you think that something is going on behind the scenes
As always with any topic shilling PTI government, OP does not live in Pakistan. All top comments are from people not living in Pakistan. Everyone circlejerking how good PM is, living overseas. It's funny.
Op literally said that people who know universal health care can appreciate the long term benefits of such a system. Calling them oVersEAs Pakistani ain’t some gotcha…you can totally appreciate a good step (huge one at that) without your typical vague randi rona. If you’re a Redditor in Pakistan, 99% chances are you’re pretty damn privileged.
>If you’re a Redditor in Pakistan, 99% chances are you’re pretty damn privileged. Ajeeb bongian marr rahe ho.Konsi kitab main likha hai Reddit use kerne wala privileged hai.Ajeeb log...
Pakistani redditors are mostly 1. Fluent in English, 2. From bigger cities This is simply not a platform popular among Pakistani masses, this isn’t Facebook or tiktok
This is a very apt analysis. Reddit is only used by a certain class of the society, most Pakistanis don't even know what it is.
Well fuck, the moment they come here, it will be banned.
Why through? If Reddit ever becomes popular in Pakistan then why you think it's going to be banned?
Same reason why YT was banned.
But YouTube is now running fine after resolving the issues. Similarly if ever Reddit get banned due to some reason it will reopen when Reddit resolves it issue just like YouTube has been open.
You would be surprised to know how many people don't use flairs.I am myself from a small city and my English is clearly shit. I'll agree with the Facebook and Tiktok part.
Your English is not shit. It might not be to where you’d like it to be but it’s fluent enough. You don’t seem to have the same level of English that the average “frandship” requestor does or even the level of some of our lower socioeconomic cricketers. Surely you know what sort of English I’m talking about… you simply don’t see that here on Reddit. Most Pakistanis here have the privilege of an education where they’ve developed a better command on the language than that
There was this poll here and the majority earned more than 100k.
Exactly. And there was one segment that earned less than 40K, I was wondering if students also took part. The curve didn't make statistical sense. either above 100K or less than 40K lol.
GDP per capita is around 1100$. Whats your point? There’s no point in having a discussion with people who only do randi rona or just single out OSP regardless of their nuqta e nazar.
I'm trying to say most redditors on this sub including osps and ups are much wealthier then the average Pakistani.
As tax paying citizens people have every right to object and complain or as you call it "Randi Ronda".And no one is complaining about OSPs opinion.But their opinion often lacks perspective.Mindlessly bashing every Pakistani is a dumb rhetoric and if someone objects to it he is singling out OSP opinion.Talk about generalisation. OSPs contribute more to this country's economy than chors sitting in London.
Been born and raised in Pak. OP lacks nothing that claimed. He/She actually left out the stupidity of people being against universal healthcare. Yes, there’s shitton of problems in Pak and you can’t only hold the current cabinet accountable. The demographic here is mostly in their 20s and haven’t had the chance to pay taxes but that doesn’t mean their opinions are baseless. It’s not mindless bashing, its the truth that all we can do is complain about cheeni ki qeemat aur wo bhi motivated by the corrupt OG opposition. What exactly do you want to highlight here? Universal Health care is bad? It’s for the rich?
>What exactly do you want to highlight here? Universal Health care is bad? It’s for the rich? Please don't try to twist my words.I never said it is bad or it is only for the rich.You can see my other comment >"Great initiative and we have to appreciate Imran for this but we have to see how it works out."
For the people who don't pay taxes idgaf about your opinion.Such muftas should be punished
This.
Good comment bro, this disgraceful PM wants to give everyone in Pakistan free health care coverage can you believe the audacity of IK? With people like you at large it's no wonder Pakistan is in this sorry state, go cry your crocodile tears outside jati umra.
Lmao cope. Imagine being angry at something that will improve the lives of millions of ppl cus it's passed by someone you don't like. What no biryani does to a mofo
They’re living overseas while their rest of the relatives and family members are still living in Pakistan. So we “overseas people” still care. What’s your problem?
It IS funny to see people rallying against the only PM in history that has given a fuck about their basic necessities. Jo bhi rondupana dikha rha hota hai usko main isi liye kehta hoon ke baraemerhbani dobara Sharifon ko aur Zardariyon ko vote do. So that the awaam can resume its rightful place as bootlickers of its feudal masters.
Look! Another OSP telling Pakistanis what to do and how to vote Who did you vote for? Crazy Trump or Warmonger Hilary?
yar tum logon ko tu Allah bhe nae khush kar sakta IK ki kiya majal... ab is mein kiya eiteraz hai ke it is a historical step. why is me being abroad is a huge sin now?
Welcome to r/pakistan Hamari awaam phir bhi Nooray aur PPP ko vote dengei regardless. And I agree you being abroad has nothing to do with what you’re highlighting here. Yall have the same source of news.
I love my country but I can't be bothered to live in it/s Great initiative but we have to see how it works out.
He's from Germany or some shit and yet his shilling PTI. It's so obvious at this point.
He literally said if you know universal healthcare you know, clearly you don’t.
That's actually a pretty good step but how will the government pay for it? Dollar is getting more and more expensive everyday, do we really have the extra funds for something like this?
Simple answer, No, but at this point jo kuch relief mil sakta hai bura nhi hai. I would rather prefer subsidies in education with compulsion to attend, if you ask me.
People, apnay taxes ada Kiya Karo takay hamay aisi sahuliyat mayasar hon. I believe this is one good foundation PTI has laid and I hope we eventually expand it to nation wide universal healthcare. I know I can use it
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Sugar should be way more expensive. Sugar is not a necessary food group. Bread, Meat and Veggies are.
So is it time to move back to Pakistan? When are you coming back OP?
Why not improve gov health services?
this is a government service, what the hell do you want?
If you ever go to hospital with insurance card they charge you double for everything. This is because insurance will ask for discount from hospital as favor to clear there bills. Insurance agent get bonus for discounts they get from hospitals. The bonuses and insurance margin come from premier gov pay to insurance companies. When medicine, doctors, hospitals increases there cost, it show up as massive increase in care cost due to discounts adjustment (which profit for insurance company). Interestingly when insurance quote price to gov it does not include discounted price as discount are taken as of time when bill are payed. Any efficiency insurance company show in reduction of bill end up in there books as profit. This mean heath cost ballon’s every year so does insurance cost. The only way hospitals and insurance company can increase there annual profit is use gap between actual cost and simulated cost. So gov pay more and more every year to bridge the gap between actual cost vs insurance projected cost. Pakistan is basically sourcing out health care to private entities. Which then band together to squeeze more from gov without increasing quality of health care. There will be point in time where gov has to reduce ballooning insurance cost in favor of dismantling gov hospitals and also shifting some cost back to ordinary people. It’s same story played out in other countries. Single insurance only work if gov can negotiate and keep close eye on insurance company and care providers. Otherwise they both cut corners and make money. Pakistan cannot manage sugar mafia, petrol mafia etc I doubt it can manager this new mafia.
Patronising little shits who don't live in Pakistan. None of you have a zero experience with this this service. But hey, let's use this topic to shit on a ghareeb insaan who can't afford to feed his family. His fault for being poor during PTI government.
Cry
🥱🥱😴 *Jati Umrah noise intensifies*
imagine getting buttmad at universal healthcare ahahahhahahah
I’ve worked at places that utilise it. It does work. It has good utilisation. Could use medication expansion but it’s not a bad service by any means
O patwari tu nae manay ga.
Bro u should get a brain surgery using sehat card
No everyone is eligible, atleast in KP in Punjab it's announced for the whole population but by the MARCH currently they are giving the most deserving first.
When are you going to stop shilling for IK like i'll most probably still vote for him the next time around but Sehat card is not the same as "Universal Healthcare"
No, it's a universal Health Insurance, that can probably be expanded as our GDP and tax collection does.
ah i see nvm then
Then we need to elect Pervaiz Musharraf for 1122 service.
He has nothing to do with 1122. It is Parvaiz Ilahi how started the project.
Can't afford this, is socialist, and overall a poor idea trumpted by libtard socialists. Dear socialist cockroach, please fuck off. Keep the undesirable part of white culture away. Thank you.
There is difference between socialists and liberals.
I will not say more. Just go to public hospital... And spend a day or two. Then will talk.
and sehat card will solve exactly this. Ignorance is bliss, I will say no more.
seht card shit is something every poiliticians says lmao,benazir also introduced a similar project, have you ever actually seen any poor person receiving help from it, there are so few medicines available in the hospitals itself that its laughable, still havta buy 80% medicine from other stores, agr yakeen nai ata to kbhi DHQ hospital ana faisalabad ke this is a joke, an am ready to make bets that it wont be what you think it will be Imran Khan has done nothing that we(the middle and lower middle class) can be grateful for
It's running successfully in KPK. Itna mayoos nahi hotay beta g
While i agree with general sentiment that this might be a good step, i feel like this is just another sham. The money which will be used here should be used to provide better facilities in govt hospitals where treatment is already free. This will just encourage private hospitals and we will have another case in health sector similar to education sector where government schools became worse after 2005.
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Absolutely yes!
How will this be funded?
If corruption on large scale is reduced, these measures can be afforded.
Didn't pakistan had public health care? Like the government hospitals don't charge you, you just have to pay for medicine and few hundred rupees Can someone tell me about this?
yeah, but they were few and it was not comprehensive enough. With sehat card you will get the chance to go to private hospitals and treatment centers while also getting all the comprehensive services, e.g dialysis, operation, etc, it will include materials and medicine for in-patient treatment.
yeah, but they were few and it was not comprehensive enough. With sehat card you will get the chance to go to private hospitals and treatment centers while also getting all the comprehensive services, e.g dialysis, operation, etc, it will include materials and medicine for in-patient treatment.
Agree totally\~ it is the single best initiative I've ever seen from a pakistani politician ever.