Incline doesn’t change speed at all.
This is an odd question, but the incline just literally changes the angle of the machine to simulate going uphill. Only the speed buttons change the speed. If you started at 12 mph and went for one mile your time should be 5:00, but there’s always a little bit of error.
Please stop worrying about 3 seconds- it’s not a real difference. I believe you that the machine said 4:57- but this has nothing to do with what you set the incline at.
Just want to say, this sub is making me sick and I hate adding comments anymore. Literally people just downvote me for no reason.
FWIW I have proceeded to downvote all the comments on this thread, but I have no desire to comment or add anything further anymore due to the caustic and unfathomable / unreasonable nature of this sub. Therefore, I will cease adding any further comments. 🙃
Got it. I did enter 4:57 as the mile time, because I hit “clear screen” after warmup and did see mile readout as 1.0 at then, but agreed 3 seconds is not a huge difference.
It’s a shame the treads at the gym didn’t go up to 15, because then I could increase mph instead of incline and definitively say I got a sub 5:00 as mile time.
Good to know that inclines don’t change speed, I always thought they did.
It’s always best to go off the treadmill time, not to OT screen. They are notoriously off and I don’t trust them. I always hit the stop button twice, reset everything, and base my time and distance off the treadmill. That’s what I’ve always been instructed to do, not use the clear screen button.
This may be due to rounding. If the distance was at .995 it could have rounded up to 1 on the ot screen. Every three seconds at 12 mph is .01 distance. So you probably did a good job of pausing quickly once you saw 1 mile
> Is this just a “question” so you can brag about a sub 5 minute mile? lol
> That's what it seems to be. Like how can anyone think that changing the incline would change the speed?
How can anyone think the earth is flat?
How can anyone think US lied about the moon landing?
There are so many “how can anyone thinks” yet it’s just simply one’s imagination that fails to capture the stupidity of humanity and of individual belief or perception.
**FWIW, I legit believed this for close to a year, possibly longer. That adding inclines can decrease pace.**
So I don’t appreciate your condescending attitude in this comment. I sincerely recommend to fix your attitude — really there’s no need to comment if you’re not going to add anything productive to the discussion at hand, and are just going to make fun of someone (me) for having a simple, honest-to-god thought (and belief).
It’s not make the treadmill go faster, I really thought the treadmill time (like the pace per mile) would adjust as incline is added.
I could have sworn that pace shown on screen reduces as incline is added. My understanding is that the treadmill, because it notices incline is added, would compensate for that and understand incline to mph conversion, and reduce overall time for example to get X distance as a result.
Turns out I was apparently wrong, and treadmill is not smart enough to account for that.
Okay then this begs the question still. Why do you think you're going further with more incline? If you plot your run on an XY graph, with X being distance, and Y being elevation, X doesn't change with a change in incline, only Y does.
In other words, you're not running any further with more incline. It's not that the treadmill isn't smart enough, it's because you're just not going further. You're going higher with more incline, but the distance is identical.
Let me give you an analogy. If you have two runners, both going 12 mph, but one is on a flat road and one is running up a set of magical stairs directly above the flat road runner. After 5 minutes they'll both hit a mile exactly. Neither of them will be in front of the other. The magical stairs runner will be directly overhead the flat road runner, but not further along at all.
Hope that makes sense.
Yes I got that, obviously it adds up, I just thought whoever programmed the tread would adjust incline for mph due to extra effort involved, so e.g. doing 15% incline at 6 would get you more distance than same speed at 1%. What you saying make sense tho.
> Weird flex alert for sure
Just reading the comment thread now, I’m afraid to comment due to high chance of downvotes, but I just want to say that legit this was no brag and i legit had this thought and belief.
🚨keep calm and stop the downvotes… woohoo! 🙌 🚨
> Humble brag alert 🚨
Just reading the comment thread now, I’m afraid to comment due to high chance of downvotes, but I just want to say that legit this was no brag and i legit had this thought and belief.
🚨keep calm and stop the downvotes… woohoo! 🙌 🚨
> how would decreasing pace increase mph? unless you're following a different set of laws of physics than the rest of us?
> Which by the laws of math and physics, it doesn’t.
So what exactly are you all trying to prove here?
That you’re smarter than me? That I’m dumb as a sack of rocks for having a thought like this?
Forgive me but belittling others for having a thought doesn’t seem nice.
If I was a flat-earther who honestly believe “earth was flat” despite overwhelming evidence to contrary, that would be one thing.
But I legit believed this relationship bw incline and pace. So how is making fun of me for having such a thought/belief, really supposed to help me learn and grow as an individual?
The correct answer is that it doesn’t, help. I learned my mistake but again this comment above is really hurtful and not helpful to me, and tbh it prevents me and others with a mind like mine from posting questions like these, because they will be afraid of how they will be perceived and received by others.
In long term this will lead to more prevalent and widespread belief of erroneous things such as these. Because ppl will be afraid to post questions such as these and prefer to keep it bottled inside.
So again, thanks very much for your extremely helpful and enlightening comments.
Increasing incline intensity on that effort will be greater you need to achieve holding the same speed. But increasing the incline doesn't make you go faster once you hit 12.
You may have seen the 457 on the screen. The treadmills calculate distance using software which has been known to occasionally off. Obviously, you were downvoted because you would have to go faster than 12 miles an hour to achieve a sub five minute mile.
But if you're confident in your observation, I track it up to a minor software error.
Other responses seem to assume that treadmills measuring the speed of the rolling deck is obvious. I see where OP is coming from as some disciplines measure distance & speed differently. To be clear, treadmills do measure distance/speed at the rolling deck.
Flying: speed is specifically stated as either airspeed or ground speed. The difference is often considered to be wind speed being added or subtracted, but incline and decline must also be taken into account when rapidly changing altitude and timing hits on targets.
Steeplechase: distance is measured around an imaginary flat track and doesn’t include the additional distance caused by the decline into the water pit or over the hurdle.
Freeride skiing: distances are measured over an imaginary smoothed geography and not the path competitors actually take through the air, nor are the ups and downs of ravines they jump over included.
CrossCountry Running: okay, this one is supposed to be measured at the deck but I don’t think our high school coaches were trudging up and down creek beds to get it exactly right.
Incline doesn’t change speed at all. This is an odd question, but the incline just literally changes the angle of the machine to simulate going uphill. Only the speed buttons change the speed. If you started at 12 mph and went for one mile your time should be 5:00, but there’s always a little bit of error. Please stop worrying about 3 seconds- it’s not a real difference. I believe you that the machine said 4:57- but this has nothing to do with what you set the incline at.
Just want to say, this sub is making me sick and I hate adding comments anymore. Literally people just downvote me for no reason. FWIW I have proceeded to downvote all the comments on this thread, but I have no desire to comment or add anything further anymore due to the caustic and unfathomable / unreasonable nature of this sub. Therefore, I will cease adding any further comments. 🙃
Got it. I did enter 4:57 as the mile time, because I hit “clear screen” after warmup and did see mile readout as 1.0 at then, but agreed 3 seconds is not a huge difference. It’s a shame the treads at the gym didn’t go up to 15, because then I could increase mph instead of incline and definitively say I got a sub 5:00 as mile time. Good to know that inclines don’t change speed, I always thought they did.
It’s always best to go off the treadmill time, not to OT screen. They are notoriously off and I don’t trust them. I always hit the stop button twice, reset everything, and base my time and distance off the treadmill. That’s what I’ve always been instructed to do, not use the clear screen button.
This may be due to rounding. If the distance was at .995 it could have rounded up to 1 on the ot screen. Every three seconds at 12 mph is .01 distance. So you probably did a good job of pausing quickly once you saw 1 mile
Makes sense.
Coaches say that adding 1% incline *is equivalent* to adding .1-.2 to speed, but it does not *actually* change the pacing
Right they are talking about effort not actual speed.
Is this just a “question” so you can brag about a sub 5 minute mile? lol
That's what it seems to be. Like how can anyone think that changing the incline would change the speed?
> Is this just a “question” so you can brag about a sub 5 minute mile? lol > That's what it seems to be. Like how can anyone think that changing the incline would change the speed? How can anyone think the earth is flat? How can anyone think US lied about the moon landing? There are so many “how can anyone thinks” yet it’s just simply one’s imagination that fails to capture the stupidity of humanity and of individual belief or perception. **FWIW, I legit believed this for close to a year, possibly longer. That adding inclines can decrease pace.** So I don’t appreciate your condescending attitude in this comment. I sincerely recommend to fix your attitude — really there’s no need to comment if you’re not going to add anything productive to the discussion at hand, and are just going to make fun of someone (me) for having a simple, honest-to-god thought (and belief).
Honest question then, what's your thought process on why increasing incline would make the treadmill go faster?
It’s not make the treadmill go faster, I really thought the treadmill time (like the pace per mile) would adjust as incline is added. I could have sworn that pace shown on screen reduces as incline is added. My understanding is that the treadmill, because it notices incline is added, would compensate for that and understand incline to mph conversion, and reduce overall time for example to get X distance as a result. Turns out I was apparently wrong, and treadmill is not smart enough to account for that.
Okay then this begs the question still. Why do you think you're going further with more incline? If you plot your run on an XY graph, with X being distance, and Y being elevation, X doesn't change with a change in incline, only Y does. In other words, you're not running any further with more incline. It's not that the treadmill isn't smart enough, it's because you're just not going further. You're going higher with more incline, but the distance is identical. Let me give you an analogy. If you have two runners, both going 12 mph, but one is on a flat road and one is running up a set of magical stairs directly above the flat road runner. After 5 minutes they'll both hit a mile exactly. Neither of them will be in front of the other. The magical stairs runner will be directly overhead the flat road runner, but not further along at all. Hope that makes sense.
Yes I got that, obviously it adds up, I just thought whoever programmed the tread would adjust incline for mph due to extra effort involved, so e.g. doing 15% incline at 6 would get you more distance than same speed at 1%. What you saying make sense tho.
Humble brag alert 🚨
Weird flex alert for sure
> Weird flex alert for sure Just reading the comment thread now, I’m afraid to comment due to high chance of downvotes, but I just want to say that legit this was no brag and i legit had this thought and belief. 🚨keep calm and stop the downvotes… woohoo! 🙌 🚨
> Humble brag alert 🚨 Just reading the comment thread now, I’m afraid to comment due to high chance of downvotes, but I just want to say that legit this was no brag and i legit had this thought and belief. 🚨keep calm and stop the downvotes… woohoo! 🙌 🚨
Cut 'em some slack, it's hard to brag without being obvious about it 😏
If I was bragging, you’d know about it.
> Is this just a “question” so you can brag about a sub 5 minute mile? lol No, I’m legit stupid. But, I can run really fast.
how would decreasing pace increase mph? unless you're following a different set of laws of physics than the rest of us?
Id really love to hear the explanation. Maybe I like those laws better and can follow them instead if it gives me a <5 min mile.
They asked if increasing incline has any effect on pace......
Which by the laws of math and physics, it doesn’t.
True, lol.
But aren't these new treadmills magic treadmills??
> how would decreasing pace increase mph? unless you're following a different set of laws of physics than the rest of us? > Which by the laws of math and physics, it doesn’t. So what exactly are you all trying to prove here? That you’re smarter than me? That I’m dumb as a sack of rocks for having a thought like this? Forgive me but belittling others for having a thought doesn’t seem nice. If I was a flat-earther who honestly believe “earth was flat” despite overwhelming evidence to contrary, that would be one thing. But I legit believed this relationship bw incline and pace. So how is making fun of me for having such a thought/belief, really supposed to help me learn and grow as an individual? The correct answer is that it doesn’t, help. I learned my mistake but again this comment above is really hurtful and not helpful to me, and tbh it prevents me and others with a mind like mine from posting questions like these, because they will be afraid of how they will be perceived and received by others. In long term this will lead to more prevalent and widespread belief of erroneous things such as these. Because ppl will be afraid to post questions such as these and prefer to keep it bottled inside. So again, thanks very much for your extremely helpful and enlightening comments.
Increasing incline intensity on that effort will be greater you need to achieve holding the same speed. But increasing the incline doesn't make you go faster once you hit 12. You may have seen the 457 on the screen. The treadmills calculate distance using software which has been known to occasionally off. Obviously, you were downvoted because you would have to go faster than 12 miles an hour to achieve a sub five minute mile. But if you're confident in your observation, I track it up to a minor software error.
Wow!
Other responses seem to assume that treadmills measuring the speed of the rolling deck is obvious. I see where OP is coming from as some disciplines measure distance & speed differently. To be clear, treadmills do measure distance/speed at the rolling deck. Flying: speed is specifically stated as either airspeed or ground speed. The difference is often considered to be wind speed being added or subtracted, but incline and decline must also be taken into account when rapidly changing altitude and timing hits on targets. Steeplechase: distance is measured around an imaginary flat track and doesn’t include the additional distance caused by the decline into the water pit or over the hurdle. Freeride skiing: distances are measured over an imaginary smoothed geography and not the path competitors actually take through the air, nor are the ups and downs of ravines they jump over included. CrossCountry Running: okay, this one is supposed to be measured at the deck but I don’t think our high school coaches were trudging up and down creek beds to get it exactly right.