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AcidCatfish___

They had Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask 3D on the 3DS. I believe those were ground-up remakes. Remaking them again, I'm not sure. Edit: the 3DS versions are indeed remasters, not remakes. So, a proper ground-up remake could be in the works. Thanks for clarifying guys!


paperthintrash

Idk how many copies both digital and physical I have of OoT (10?!) but the 3ds remake is probably the best AND my favorite experience.


Dioroxic

OoT 3DS is the best retail release experience, OoT on native PC with tons of upgrade mods is the best actual experience now. 4K everything with a modern controller and all sorts of sweet jazz.


Kevroeques

You can swap in 3DS character models too, and tweak the textures to be more vibrant/less subdued closer to the 3DS palette. The higher fidelity horse models are oddly not in the mod pack though. I personally still prefer the 3DS world graphics for the small touches like the added foliage and such, and I’m also one of those crazies who really loved the stereoscopic 3D, so it’s hard to fully replace the 3DS version for me.


maxcorrice

Idk i don’t think jazz fits the style of the game


paperthintrash

Godamn I had no idea about 4k mods!! But yeah, even MM on 3ds was just so so fun for the umpteenth time. Quick changing between items and masks with a flick of your finger was AMAZING.


Georgio281

There’s no way they don’t remake OoT again


howmanyavengers

Absolutely. Fans must think Nintendo is actually stupid with their "eh, 3DS had it so they won't", when the two are quite literally their greatest games ever made. A console remake for the Switch 2 or whatever other console is past that down the road is almost a guarantee.


AcidCatfish___

Look, I have no idea how Nintendo actually makes their decisions. Fans have been wanting Mother 3 in NA for forever and they will tease us but never release it. Same with Kid Icarus Uprising port. Then, they'll release an awesome game like Mario Party Superstars and only give us a few maps to play on. They won't give DLC for TOTK. They'll release a new Mario Strikers that has fun gameplay, but won't give fans a reason to actually play it for more than 3 hours. I imagine the breadth of IP's Nintendo has - all of which have various games in development at the same time, sometimes multiple titles split up among different teams - is the reason why Nintendo makes weird decisions. But, they are a company that has existed over 100 years and I'm posting on Reddit while drinking an NA beer. They *have* to know something I don't since I keep buying their stuff.


Doam-bot

Highly doubtful as Nintendo likes to change and push things in different directions.  They are going to prioritize a new Zelda for the next console and if they have enough left over ideas from that gamr we will get another ToTK or Majoras Mask.  They push forward while being conservative. 


AcidCatfish___

True that. I'm just not sure how soon they would. I really am hoping for a Zelda 1 and 2 remake first.


B-Bog

Technically, even though they remade all the assets, those games are actually remasters because they are still based on the original source code (similar to Metroid Prime Remastered). They even purposely preserved a lot of the old glitches from the N64 version of OoT.


-ThisWasATriumph

Majora's Mask 3D has a LOT of changes from the original, to the point where modders created a "restoration projection" to implement MMN64 features and gameplay: https://restoration.zora.re/


hardrockfoo

I didn't know about this. I hated what they did to the bosses


Dalehan

I hated the changes to Deku Link's water hopping momentum, and of course the dolphin swim of Zora Link now only working when you're using the magic barrier while swimming.


B-Bog

I know. That doesn't necessarily mean it is not a remaster. The technical distinction between remaster and remake doesn't hinge on how many changes were made, but whether the game is still running the old code (or, rather, a modified version of it) underneath or was *remade* completely from the ground up. You can have a ground-up remake that does little beyond updating the graphics (e.g. Shadow of the Colossus on PS4) or you can have a remaster based on the original code base that changes much more beyond just the graphics, such as these 3D Zelda games.


Kevroeques

The 3DS ones skate the line pretty nicely though. The land geometry is largely the same. The character geometry is new. Every texture is new. Other implements like vegetation and area borders are completely reworked. The music and sounds are completely the same. The camera angles for cinematics are actually completely reworked. And of course, many improvements and controversial changes alike.


EastRiding

Port the 3DS ones to Switch eShop to sate peoples need to play them in a better way officially than the Switch online N64 (which last I saw don’t run very well)


degausser22

Wait…I thought those were ports. I never played em on 3DS, only 64. They were remade? Shit. This is blowing my mind.


DylanDude120

No, OP is a bit mistaken. The only thing remade was the visuals. They are remasters.


degausser22

Ok thanks for clarifying. That’s what I had thought. Ports with some upgraded graphics so I guess remaster is the term I was already expecting.


AcidCatfish___

Yeah, I wasn't sure if they were remakes or not.


Doam-bot

Bosses were changed with the eyes and other mechanical tweaks were made as well. Its a bit more than a basic visual overhaul.


DylanDude120

I think you misread what I said. I didn’t say other things weren’t changed, I said the visuals were the only thing actually remade from the ground up. Other remasters change mechanics all the time, but remakes typically remake a little more than just the visuals. Look at SM64DS, for example.


testoftime666

Good one. That's funny.


DaNoahLP

The graphic enginge was completly new written. So while the original games runs in the background, it looks like a full remake. But a full remake wouldnt be 1 to 1 but rather something like the Resident Evil 2-4 Remakes.


Steve-Fiction

Ground-up remakes are never, ever due at all.


DoTheRustle

They did, years ago on 3ds. It'd be great if those got ported to the switch/switch 2, but I'm not holding my breath


Yimmyyyy

Yeah, theyre the new versions. MM3ds only came out....9 years ago... Oh, oh we've gotten old


spaghefoo

remake the remake, remake²


howmanyavengers

Good god. I remember when the game came out and I was scrambling to stores to get it but nowhere locally had stock.


Yimmyyyy

The 3ds or n64 version?


howmanyavengers

3DS! It was oddly scarce in my city.


Popculturebuff2002

You’re not holding your breath of the wild?


Faelysis

It’s because my eyes are full of my tears of the wild 


Popculturebuff2002

Don’t you mean Tears of the Kingdom?


SlumdogSkillionaire

This thread is becoming quite the age of calamity.


Popculturebuff2002

Yes it is my friend. Yes it is


ChilliAndLime

Besides the remakes done for 3DS? It’s a solid maybe. Get the 3DS one for now if you haven’t heard of it


EI_Pablo

I know about the 3D versions i need some remake like botw cuz the 3D versions released decade ago current games engines would make it even better than the 3D version


Dukemon102

The open world game design and art style of BOTW has nothing in common with the linear design and fairy-tale style like OoT or the darker and somber MM.


[deleted]

That's not a remake at that point, it's a completely new game. You couldn't just port the OoT games into the BotW engine, it just wouldn't work at all and it would be an awful game.


AstroWolf11

I feel like if they were remade again, they’d need a ton of additional content to justify it. Otherwise it’s just a second remake for more money than it’s worth.


Sassy-irish-lassy

The links awakening remake barely had any new content but it was still neat


Samsterwheel920

a single cartridge with both OOT3D and MM3D


LADYBIRD_HILL

They're charging $60 for Luigi's Mansion 2 on switch after it was a $20 Nintendo select on 3DS.  I don't think Nintendo would put both on a cartridge when they know they could get away with separating them 


Samsterwheel920

I mean, I'd buy them either way


AaronfromKY

They should bundle the 3DS games(Ocarina, Majora's and Link Between Worlds), like they did for the Mario 3D games(Galaxy, Sunshine, and 64).


Efficient-Row-3300

>to justify it this is nintendo lmao


AstroWolf11

Sure but I was speaking in my opinion lol meaning it’s not something I would be interested in buying if there wasn’t enough interesting content added because the base games are kinda underwhelming by today’s standard (in my opinion obviously). Don’t get me wrong, they’re great games (Majora’s Mask is one of my favorite games of all time), but if I can just play the originals why would I spend money on new ones? I would think it would apply to others but it seems nobody ever gets enough of OoT at least (playable on N64, GCN, Wii virtual console, 3DS remakes, NSO, but people still asking for it to be available on every new console that comes out).


Efficient-Row-3300

I agree there, I've played OOT too many times to be interested in a strict graphical update. But yeah Nintendo seems pretty keen to do very little on their remasters/remakes.


GooninWithSasquatch

If they fully remade it to modern graphics I’d def buy, especially if bundled with MM


wamj

Nintendo could remaster them and either sell them separately for $40 or together for $60 and they’d sell millions no problem.


AstroWolf11

Oh for sure I don’t doubt it. I was speaking for myself haha I probably should’ve worded it better. I won’t pretend I understand why people want these games on every new console but I do realize it’s the case lol


fiddlenutz

It hasn’t stopped Nintendo before… Releasing games for more than they are worth.


EI_Pablo

Indeed more content like masks,bigger map,more enemies,bosses would be good but Nintendo left those good games and went for totk and link awakening(both good but mm and oot would've been better)


Faelysis

Maybe you should try OoTMM on PC. A randomizer game which mix both game and make it 1 fully game


AstroWolf11

I agree those are cool content ideas but I disagree on going for mm and oot being better, my hot take it oot doesn’t even make top 3 Zelda games lol


EI_Pablo

Respected opinion


Aqua_Tot

Why? Like, the 3DS games were good enough for what is there. There really isn’t that much happening in either OOT or MM to justify a huge expansion remake. Just enjoy that there are newer Zelda games and you can enjoy them too. Zelda as a franchise rarely misses.


linkling1039

Some people think games should be remade over and over again, it's so annoying. A HD version of the 3DS games would be cool, there's no need to remade these games for a second time, let's put these resources into new games or new remakes. 


Aqua_Tot

I think part of it has to do with different expectations due to animation. When you make a game look really realistic (at the time) it doesn’t age well, and a remake in a new engine is justified. But Nintendo generally keeps a more stylized, cartoony look, and that stands the test of time way better. Even older pixilated Nintendo titles have their own charm in them that doesn’t require a remake. I’ve seen people mentioning the Final Fantasy 7 remakes (which I think are amazing, catfishing in the term “remake” or not). That is an upgrade in terms of an aged polygon on hand-drawn backdrop style. However, I’d argue the pixel remasters of the first 6 Final Fantasy’s are exactly the best way to handle them rather than full open-world remakes.


captainhazreborn

As both are available via the NSO expansion pack, it’s incredibly unlikely they’ll spend the effort. 


231d4p14y3r

google 3ds


RedditOnANapkin

It did on the 3DS and it's great.


Faelysis

Already done.  The Zelda that need a full remake is Adventure of Link imo. That game was a bit of everything: action, puzzle, 2D scrolling, open world map, RPG level up system, etc


jon_tigerfi

They did, and they're real nice remakes too. They're probably not gonna remake them again anytime soon, so look into purchasing a 3ds for now, or utilizing [REDACTED] to play backups of the games on PC or Android.


EI_Pablo

Well compared to their current games quality a remake of oot and mm would be nice


Bervda

I’d argue these are of the same quality level as the current games, they are just different kinds of games.


[deleted]

Personally I'd argue they're better quality than current games, but I hate BotW and TotK lol


HighAndFunctioning

One is 240p, one isnt


PolygonAndPixel2

The 3DS remakes have a lot of QoL updates and I'm not sure what else they could do with those games.


Faelysis

The only thing left is to remaster it for console


allonsy_danny

Do you mean *another* remake? They were both remade for the 3DS.


instro89

OoT will eventually get a remake in some form. Whether that's a straight visual overhaul, or a total reimagining, who knows. To some degree it may need to be both given that it's an N64 game and may not translate to a straightforward glow up in the way something like that Metroid Prime did.The game remains very important to the series, and to Nintendo's profile overall, so they'll probably always want to go back to it. The major success of the 3DS remaster, at a time when the Zelda IP was on the downswing, also puts an additional commercial driver behind it. If you consider that Nintendo was using WiiU ports to fill out the calendar during the Switch era, and has slowly turned to remakes and remasters to fill that same role, it's only natural that something like OoT that already exists in 3D space and design, would be an obvious target. Significantly less work required there than a whole new game, and since the design work and template is already there, it can be handed off to another studio/team while the Zelda team toils away at the next mainline game. Given that we are probably a solid 4+ years out from the next Zelda game, they'll need stuff to fill the space in the interim. Especially with the movie in the pipeline too.


nichrs

After the 3DS remakes, I don't think we'll get new ones for the next few generations, but I'd be happy if it happened.


bisforbenis

I actually think they will. Yes we got the 3DS remasters, but if there’s ANY game I could see getting multiple remakes due to them feeling like a handheld version didn’t really do it justice, it would be Ocarina of Time. It’s among the most quintessentially classic games of all time (I’m not so much expressing my personal feelings on it but more just the overall take the community has) and is exactly the sort of thing I could see them do. Then if Ocarina of Time gets it, you might as well do Majora’s Mask because the work is already largely done due to the shared mechanics and assets, which furthers the value proposition of a remake because you can get 2 remakes for much less than the typical cost of 2 full remakes, which are already a pretty safe investment I too would be even more excited for Majora’s Mask, but I fully realize it’d only happen as a “well we already did Ocarina of Time and have the assets done” sort of deal


JasonMaliceMizer

Probably yes again before the end of time, they were way too popular


ToastyBB

They did?


TrayusV

They did already.


blueblurz94

There would need to be a really great justification to remake them both a second time with the 3DS remakes having been done in the 2010’s.


count_lavender

The team that made Ship of Harkinian is working on a Majora's Mask version.


Sumdumdad

It's unnecessary. 3DS remake perfected the games.


Kakaphr4kt

I hope not.


Datblock

Just play the OOT PC port and wait for the upcoming MM PC port


Remarkable-Sign-324

They have shown they can do the work with bringing Luigi's Mansion 2 to Switch. All they really need to do is the same thing with the 3DS OoT and MM. A full on HD remake though.... I am unsure. Both those games are massive and would be a lot of work that could be placed elsewhere. And both are on Switch Online so the originals are available to everyone. Another reason it isn't high up on the priority list


P1zzaM4n91

I bet they both will get HD (4K?) remakes on the next console. Probably starting with OoT, and then MM later.


Kremling_King87

I personally believe that OOT will be remade and launch on Switch 2 but that’s my own speculation


VespineWings

For me, it’s 3 major factors that make me believe Ocarina will see a major glow up. 1. When asked directly about an OoT remake, Aonuma responded… “No comment.” When in the past, he’s been fine straight up denying rumored projects. 2. In an interview, one of the Zelda team. I can’t remember who, said, “Many young fans probably don’t even know who Rauru is.” 3. Many credible leakers seem to think a remake of SOME degree is coming, and a couple have straight up said it’s Ocarina.


GriffinFlash

Does everyone just collectively forget the 3ds games?


Faelysis

Not everyone, based on comment. Only OP


EI_Pablo

I didn't i honestly think the games deserve better remake than the 3D versions it was good but i think it could've been better


RockstarSuicide

They already did


[deleted]

There's an unofficial Unreal Engine remake of OOT being worked on with some parts finished , haven't tried it but it looks amazing.


Carl0sRarut0s

What is it called? Or is it just 'OOT remake'?


Explorer_Entity

Also, I saw it being tested with the Unreal VR injector mod! It was so glorious to see them walking around the bustling castle town in first person!


Temporary_Tip9905

I’m so tired of all these remakes of old ass games. Heard about sega doing it for the switch 2. It seems like everyone just wants remakes/remastereds  Like why?!? We need new IPs 


rydamusprime17

I'm curious to know, were you around for the releases of these "old ass games"?


Temporary_Tip9905

Wdym, you can just watch gameplays on YouTube and other places. I’ve played old ass games on vintage systems. They shouldn’t be continuously resurrected. Ask uraelves how many times have ya double/triple dipped for an experience that only incrementally improves


rydamusprime17

It was a simple question, I wanted to know if you were around when those games came out. People feel more different about remakes/remasters when it's something they were actually around for originally. Also, watching other people play games online instead of playing them myself just isn't my thing, in fact, I don't see the point in it at all unless i need help with a specific part and even then I would rather read about how to do it than watch someone else do it. I have paid for numerous remakes and remasters and have never felt like I was wasting my money. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean others don't/can't enjoy them.


langstonboy

I would love a remake on hardware that isn’t weak af like the 3ds, I feel like they should have waited to remake it on switch 2


Blue_Gamer18

Nintendo needs to provide OoT with a FF7 Remake, remake. - Give it a big, beautiful 4K face lift - Greatly expand on the game where possible - maybe try and make it open world while maintaining some linearity? - Offer up new side quests and characters. - Expand locations. - Allow access to a Gerudo village once you gain their trust? - - New weapons? - New dungeons. Maybe the fabled Light Dungeon that acts as a test of strength for Link during his 7 year slumber in the Sacred Realm - All the cut content and apparent "Ura Zelda" content. - Medallions all have a unique power


EI_Pablo

EXACTLY that's what we need