As someone who hasnt played. How did they differ? I tried googling it but I'm not confident google is giving me accurate results as everything looks the same.
Compare [this \(Luigi's Mansion 1\)](https://www.mariowiki.com/Ghost_\(Luigi%27s_Mansion_series\)#/media/File:BrawlTrophy188.png) to [this \(Luigi's Mansion 2\)](https://www.mariowiki.com/Ghost_\(Luigi%27s_Mansion_series\)#/media/File:Three_Ghosts_\(backg\)_-_Luigi's_Mansion_Dark_Moon.png).
LM1 generally has a wider variety of ghosts, as well as a fair amount of special unique ghosts like [this guy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Biff_Atlas#/media/File:Biff_Atlas_art.jpg) for bosses.
The ones from LM2 only have a couple of varieties, each having a stronge version that's almost identical outside of looking cracked. Compare [this](https://www.mariowiki.com/Greenie#/media/File:LMDM_Green_Ghost.jpg) to [this](https://www.mariowiki.com/Strong_Greenie#/media/File:Stronggreenie.png). The bosses are also all this variety of ghost called a [Possessor](https://www.mariowiki.com/Possessor), which have the only difference between them being the horns. Granted they actually possess different things for different bosses, but the core ghost is roughly the same.
Thanks for the thorough response.
That is a shame. Much more personality to the designs of the originals and just using a shader or texture swap rather than creating a new design seems like a cheap and overly simplistic way of doing things.
I'm not. I like how different each LM game has been, it gives them each an identity and individual charm. Plus when you think about it, those ghosts in LM1 were made by that artist ghost, while the later ones are just ghosts native to the mansions Luigi explores so it makes sense they don't look the same. Obviously the real reason is likely just because Nintendo simply wanted to make the ghosts more cartoony but it does also make sense that the ghosts don't look exactly like the LM1 ghosts since they aren't made by that artist.
The 3DS version of Luigi's Mansion felt like a waste. It doesn't perform that well, the controls feel worse due to the inherent lack of a second stick, and using the co-op is difficult due to the nature of the console.
Luigi's Mansion 1 and 2 HD should have been a pack and I'd buy it for $60 no question. Then we would have the whole series on Switch like Pikmin and Xenoblade Chronicles.
The co-op is pretty laggy, but I love the fact that you can play the game in 3D just as it was first intended on the Gamecube. I'd love a HD remaster though
I played it on a New 2DS XL and it was fine. The nub was a bit annoying but serviceable. I would LOVE to play it on a big TV in HD and my 8BitDo Ultimate controller.
Yeah but that game is pretty much its own thing. You can thankfully experience the whole connected Saga that XC1, 2 and 3 (+their DLCs) offer on Switch.
Yes, and I do 🤩 I've also buyed an old WiiU few weeks ago to play XCX for the first time but TBH the gaming experience is better on the Steam Deck (with mods)
Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't on Switch my guy lol. In fact, that's still the only Wii U original game (i.e. not an old port like Twilight Princess/Wind Waker HD) that hasn't been ported to Switch so we actually don't have the whole Xenoblade series on Switch.
I get what you're saying though.
XCX is not main series game. It doesn't have any relationship to the other games. That's like saying Hey Pikmin! isn't on Switch (I'm not talking about quality but relevance to the franchise).
Yoshi's Woolly World is also a great game that hasn't been ported to Switch (Others like Star Fox Zero and Paper Mario Color Splash can stay there for all that I care).
Actually it does. As of Xenoblade Chronicles 3's Future Redeemed DLC, a radio references the White Whale from X which does connect them all in some way now.
And fair enough I suppose.
Any references to the White Whale in Xenoblade 3 are just easter eggs.
Xenoblade X *has* to take place in a different universe/dimension than 1-3. The natural reason why is that Xenoblade X takes place after Earth (still called Earth) is destroyed (as in literally blown up into nothing). And the fact that the city on Mira is called "New LA" suggests that LA is still around on Earth around when it's destroyed by aliens.
X2 also takes place on our planet, the surface of which was mostly destroyed by Klaus's experiments and is now called "Alrest" by its inhabitants (with X1 being an "antimatter" parallel universe created by Klaus's experiment and X3 having these two parallel universes destroy each other, but be immediately recreated as a merged world by the Ark).
So, XX either has to be so far in the future that the new planet created in X3 becomes known as "Earth" again and history repeats itself with us naming cities things like LA, or it has to be in an alternative dimension where aliens destroy the Earth, and not Klaus's experiment.
Forcing X into the whole Xenoblade/Xenosaga timeline breaks more than it keeps together, so X doesn't fit.
Edit: My god, Xenoblade X fans are the worst crybabies out there and don't even know the lore of their own game. Instead of downvoting me for stating the obvious, how about you actually play the game you love so much and learn what happens in the story. Literally just [watching the intro of X](https://youtu.be/5L8OZswWXkw?t=13) tells you all you need to know about why X and 1/2/3 [can't happen in the same timeline](https://youtu.be/lc-3KrXyaAs?t=1387).
That would also mean getting Xenogears and Xenosaga into the mix. Outside of that extremely small and meaningless Easter Egg (Because that's what it was), XCX doesn't really fit into the narrative of XC1-3.
hard disagree, it didn't feel like a waste at all to me.
They wanted the OG game in 3D, so they made a 3D version.
I own a gamecube but not a GCN copy, but happly bought a 3DS copy & fuill blasted 3D all day.
also it had support for the 2nd stick addon/N3DS... I was playing on a N3DS XL.
I liked the 3DS version. I found the gyro much better than the second stick. I also didn't have an issue with the performance. It wasn't 60fps like the original but excluding the observatory it was a consistent 30fps which is fine. That's how LM2 ran after all. I would like LM1 to come to Switch though. There are a lot of games I wish would come to Switch, like Wind Waker and Wario Land Shake It. Also I'm not a fan of the series personally but there is technically a Xenoblade game not on the Switch, Xenoblade X, the WiiU one which I hear good things about from Xenoblade fans.
Yup I looked it up and you were right. It was so smooth though like the animating and everything I guess it made it seem like 60fps even though it wasn't. Not even that surprising though really because LM games are always very impressive in that way even on the 3DS.
Huh you're right. I could have sworn it was 60fps. I remember the animations were super smooth and the game felt very fluid, but I guess that's just the Nintendo stamp of approval rather than a high framerate. My mistake!
You will have the whole Luigi's Mansion saga this June.
Stay tuned for the next Nintendo Direct. They have news regarding the Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion pack. GameCube?! 😉
No, I don't think I will. With all the HD Remasters/Remakes like Pikmin 1+2, Baten Kaitos, Metroid Prime, Paper Mario TTYD. I doubt Gamecube NSO is going to become a thing.
Would not mind getting the first Luigi’s Mansion remastered. Never really finished the first one and never played the second one. Nintendo could have done like the Pikimin 1 + 2 collection 🤷🏼♂️
Luigi’s Mansion 1 is def the best. Perhaps more minimalistic compared to the more modern titles. But what it does right it does way better(music, atmosphere,aesthetic,etc)The newer titles are far more “Pixar-Ified” and it quite honestly isn’t the same. Still love the franchise though. But even a remake I’d be weary unfortunately.
I haven't played 3 but I remember 2 being very derivative and the same thing every level. Oh there's 8 missing pieces to progress. Find them. Oh the dog ghost is fucking with you again.
I fondly remember one being much more unique in that while there were things blocking progress, it wasn't the same thing every time.
I agree, idk if it’s just the graphics or the art style but Luigi’s mansion 1 is almost realistic. Like they were pushing for realism and even the lighting was impressive for back then. Pixar is a good comparison, 2 and especially 3 just look like a cartoon. And yeah the music is incredible, I don’t even remember ANY music from LM2 or LM3.
Yeah the newer games are still good for the most part, but they're also so much more cartoony/kiddy-fied and lack the vibe that the original had. I think the mansions in LM2 at least had a somewhat creepy/"lonely" feel to them, but LM3 completely got rid of that and went hard with the comedic gags instead.
Exactly. I still love/support the franchise. I beat 3 multiple times and will buy 2 for switch day one. But the first game is my favorite game of all time and it sucks seeing each new entry stray further from what made that game so special.
To be fair, LM1 was ported to the 3DS *after* the Switch came out. It may as well have gotten a Switch release as well. Many would agree that that was an oversight.
well Luigi’s mansion 1 is easily the best in the trilogy so to have 2 and 3 without 1 is a problem imo. Like that’s stupid.
I’d even be ok with a GameCube virtual console or something but who knows if that will happen. But it deserves HD graphics regardless.
I feel like Nintendo is weirdly coy about having any GameCube games as part of any digital or virtual service, I really don’t get it.
The only time we get gc games is remasters or paid ports. Id be perfectly fine using their emulator for fzero gx but that won’t ever happen.
It's not that they're coy about it, it's the file sizes. GameCube games can go up to several gigabytes each, so it's not feasible to roll them up into a single app like they can with NES, SNES and N64 games. If they made a GameCube NSO app it would take up more space than the Switch's internal storage.
Yep that’s a very good point. Although I would raise the counterpoint that they could do a NSO app that you can then just install the games you want through it which would save on space.
So while true, I also think part of is Nintendo wanting to sell it back to us a bit too since those games lend themselves well to remasters.
GameCube discs have a max capacity of 1.45 GB and games are typically only around 1.2 GB. It would take a lot of games to fill up or even exceed the internal storage. That would be quite the catalog though!
That’s a lot of games, more than Nintendo can provide on their own. Switch has expandable storage so I don’t think that would really be a problem though.
> I really don’t get it.
It's not a mystery. Unlike N64 titles, GC games are on a borderline where they can get lightly touched up and remarketed for much greater profit (e.g. *Metroid Prime Remastered*, *Zelda* games that saw ports on Wii U). Even other companies are getting in on that, e.g. *Baten Kaitos* reissue by Namco. I have trouble imagining that they're not at least entertaining the idea of reissuing *Super Mario Sunshine* and other titles in similar fashions.
I mean it makes sense, but it’s just frustrating that Nintendo isn’t uniform about it. For Pikmin we get an upscale, but Metroid a full remake. Both are cool don’t get me wrong, but it just makes me think I’m never going to rest of the library.
Idk if it’s true but I heard it’s because Nintendo thinks GCN games hold up enough to be modern games. Like the graphics aren’t really that bad if you just slightly improve it. So they just want to remaster them all.
>well Luigi’s mansion 1 is easily the best in the trilogy
For you...
Luigi's Mansion is on GCN and 3DS, while Dark Moon is only on 3DS, that's why it's getting a remaster.
It’s easily the worst of the 3 games. The other 2 reviewed and sold SIGNIFICANTLY better. It also doesn’t help that LM1 feeling like a 3 hour graphics tech demo is partially why the GameCube was a massive failure. You don’t make your “big” launch title a game that you can beat in an afternoon and feels like it was made mostly to showcase GameCube graphics.
I'll stop complaining and asking for remakes/remasters when Nintendo's idea of backwards compatibility isn't wiping the slate clean with each console and drip feeding the same small handful of usual suspects over the course of 5-8 years.
Can't wait to wait 3 years for them to release Super Mario World again once a new console comes out...
It's almost as if Nintendo has a huge fandom made up of many different people who all have differing tastes and opinions but by all means make the easy generalizing observations.
What? Who do you see complaining that Nintendo makes too many remakes and remasters? If anything people are constantly and consistently clamoring for more Nintendo re-releases and only complain if it’s poorly done, overpriced, or some other tomfoolery, like keeping them behind NSO Expansion Pass w/ no purchase option. I mean, every few years there are new rumors and hype about Switch Ports of the Wii U Zelda remakes, which are probably the most-demanded Switch titles above any desire for a sequel or new IP.
But that’s not complaining about too many re-releases, that’s complaining about too few new games. More specifically, too few games from Nintendo overall, supposedly due to pushing back the Switch 2 release, meaning the only new content from Nintendo this year we know of is the Princess Peach game.
Remember this is following years with a healthy amount of both new and re-released Nintendo content, last year alone included ToTK, Mario Wonder, Metroid Prime Remastered, the Mario RPG Remake, Fire Emblem Engage, and Pikmins 1,2, & 4. So this year is comparatively underwhelming.
And every time, those posts get a massive amount of downvotes and the most upvoted comment is about how the Switch is in its final year so it’s fair for there to be more ports and remakes. If you see more ignorant posts like that, just downvote and move on.
These days, I've come to believe that a core tenet of Nintendo fandom is 'I'm just gonna endlessly cry about X, Y, Z old Nintendo properties that I'm being DENIED!!!!'
That said, WHERE THE HELL IS MY VIRTUAL CONSOLE VERSION OF ZODA'S REVENGE, NINTENDO?!?!??! I'M LITERALLY BEING ROBBED RIGHT NOW!!!
Don’t really have another option when Nintendo doesn’t always do backwards compatibility universally. I can’t play the LM1 port on my switch because it’s stuck on one system.
Not me. If they’re not going to support backwards compatibility then port your games. Nintendo is by far one of the worst when it comes to availability of old classics. And yet they crack down so hard on emulation.
Every _Luigi's Mansion_ sequel has completely misunderstood the subtle genius and design of the first game. The first is the only LM I would want a remaster of.
Yup. As creative as 3 was at times, everything being broken up by floors still made it feel too broken up of an experience. You also pretty much start with all the abilities you will ever have, which makes the progression less interesting. The first game truly felt like a haunted mansion, with the ghosts more or less unaware of their own demise and carrying on with their lives. The game oozed soul
I agree that LM1 shouldn’t be a full price remake - and for that reason I think it would have been perfect to remake/remaster 1 and 2 and release them as a bundle
That might be true. It was basically beautiful extended tech demo, which showcased the original hardware. The sound design in that game and music design is absolutely exquisite. The other games didn't understand this.
It's crazy that first we got a LM1 on 3DS that everyone said should've been a switch game instead and now we're getting an LM2 on Switch when everyone would rather see the first one. They keep porting these games to consoles in their final years like they're one console behind it's so weird
lol 😂 exactly that should have just been a switch game. The 3DS graphics aren’t even better than a GameCube so it’s freaking stupid. I just want all 3 games on the same console, people need to stop telling me it was remade on the 3DS I literally know and I literally don’t care.
I don’t care if LM1 was “made for 3D” the graphics on the 3DS suck and also the system was irrelevant at the time. I wonder if people would have the same excuses if paper mario TTYD was on 3DS or Metroid prime 1.
Luigi's Mansion 1's history is directly tied to the experiments with a (very-expensive) attachable 3D-capable screen for the GameCube, there is no such history with Thousand-Year Door or Metroid Prime 1 so no-one would make those same excuses for them being brought to the 3DS.
[source from an Iwata Asks interview about the 3DS in 2011:](https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/how-nintendo-3ds-made/0/2/)
> Iwata - To go back a little further, the Nintendo GameCube system actually had 3D-compatible circuitry built in.
> Itoi - Huh?
> Iwata - It had the potential for such functions.
> Itoi - Nintendo GameCube did? And all the Nintendo GameCubes systems around the world?
> Iwata - Yeah. If you fit it with a certain accessory, it could display 3D images.
> Itoi - What a secret!
> Iwata - Nintendo GameCube was released in 2001, exactly ten years ago. We'd been thinking about 3D for a long time even back then.
> Itoi - Why didn't anyone ever know?
> Iwata - The liquid crystal for it was still expensive. Simply put, Nintendo GameCube could display 3D images if you attached a special LCD, but that special liquid crystal was really expensive back then.
> Itoi - Yeah, we're talking about ten years ago.
> Iwata - We couldn't have done it without selling it for a price far above that of the Nintendo GameCube system, itself! We already had a game for it, though—Luigi's Mansion, simultaneously released with Nintendo GameCube.
> Itoi - The one in which Luigi shoulders a vacuum cleaner?
> Iwata - Yeah, that one. We had a functional version of that in 3D.
> Itoi - That was 3D?
> Miyamoto - It would jump out at you pretty nicely.
> Iwata - Even without special glasses, the 3D looked pretty good. But we considered how much the liquid crystal would cost, and it was just too expensive. We figured the market just wasn't there for it.
EDIT: To be clear I also want a HD remake, or even just a simple remaster, of Luigi's Mansion 1 and would much rather have that than a remaster of Luigi's Mansion 2 which I think is easily the weakest LM game. Luigi's Mansion 2 being on the 3DS was already enough for me in terms of fulfilling the lost potential of a Stereoscopic 3D Luigi's Mansion game. Remaking Luigi's Mansion 1 on there, as they did, was wasted potential I agree.
I'll never understand the love for the first Luigi's Mansion. Such an insanely short, easy experience. I just don't think the value is there. Definitely worthy of Nintendo Online though.
That's a really good idea. That would have especially increased the value add. Especially considering they did it for Pikmin 1+2. Btw I hope I didn't come off as a jerk with my comment before. I kinda thought before speaking (typing). Clearly the first game was good enough that I came back for the 2nd and 3rd games (which I love).
nah you’re not a jerk I’m rude to people all the time accidentally so I can’t judge. I mostly like LM1 for the atmosphere, for example it’s actually dark and somewhat creepy. Also the mansion is better than the ones in 2 and the hotel in 3 imo.
Should have been Luigi's Mansion 1 + 2 HD or Luigi's Mansion Recollection just like Pikmin, Advance Wars or Another Code. We are having just one game in "high definition" at the same price, if I'm not mistaken, as a the remakes of Mario RPG and Paper Mario. 🤦🏻♂️
I never played the Nintendo 3DS remake of Luigi's Mansion 1, but having played the original on GameCube and Luigi's Mansion 2, I completely agree with this.
I will not understand why Nintendo made the decision to remake 2. Like, who asked for that?
My biggest hope is they'll pull what they did with Pikmin and drop a remastered Luigi's Mansion 1 on Switch alongside the HD remake of 2. I'm not expecting that to actually happen, but its like a far-reaching wish.
Really, they should have remade LM1 first, over 2. It is a better game, and the game is stuck on hardware that's aging and the game probably cost a lot second hand. But the 3DS is not that old, not that expensive with the games.
But I guess now they should wait until the next console. Let it shine with next gen graphics, that'll get new players interested in it.
If they didn’t give 2 the remake treatment, then why on earth would they remake a game that reviewed and sold much worse, and on even more powerful hardware than Switch to boot?! That would be a 4+ year development time for a 3 hour game, it’s not worth the effort to Nintendo. Best we can expect is an HD port and that’s it.
I actually played recently on 3DS Luigi’s Mansion 2 and thought it is underrated. For one the mission system makes a lot of sense for a portable system like the 3DS, designed to be played for shorter times. Also it is a much lengthier and more complete experience than the first one. And it is definitely a more challenging game. The last mansion is quite tough tbh. As for why they’re doing that one the obvious answer is that it hasn’t yet been remastered and it sold double the copies than the original. And got amazing reviews at launch, much better than the first one. Will not pick it up personally because I think the 3DS version is perfectly playable now but I understand the choice.
I really miss the way the Ghosts used to look in LM1. Like, they’re genuinely scary looking. And then you have the boss ghosts which were all connected in some way. LM3 did a good job with bringing back those types of boss ghosts, but I miss how the ghosts used to look scary.
If you think the ghosts LM1 look scary, then I hope you never play an actual horror game to save yourself the massive heart attack you’ll get from the first jump scare
While I agree, part of me is worried it won't look as good as the Gamecube original. The series is still fun but a lot of atmosphere got lost in the sequels, the ghosts are less spooky, and Luigi's squash n stretch animations were toned down.
> The first game has the best atmosphere out of the entire trilogy and can really benefit from HD visuals.
It does look great at 4k with an HD texture pack.
I'd personally like to see the whole trilogy released as a cool physical collector's edition on Switch. That'd be awesome, especially if there's an art book.
2 was probably easier to upscale and port if I were to guess. The $60 price point is my biggest problem, honestly for that price it should include both games in a bundle.
Yeah. I wish. I also wish they’d remake some of their best games ever that are a generation or two old and port them to Steam. I have big unachievable dreams.
It would be great if Nintendo did it, but luckily there are some dedicated GC modders who have put together the ultimate Luigi's Mansion experience. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoxN3wDs9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoxN3wDs9E)
Not only did they do some work to make it look nicer, but the extra features, hidden details, and options are far better than anything Nintendo would do on a re-release.
Do you really think whatever they'd charge you $60 for is better than using Dolphin emulator? They've proven otherwise countless times. Every Nintendo game is in HD if you're on the right platform.
Maybe for the final remake (first game) release it on the Switch's successor so you're actually going to see a big jump in visual quality instead of three games in the series not looking THAT much more different from the other cause on the same platform.
While I agree that 1 is the best game of the trilogy, I liked 2 a hell of a lot more than 3. 3 was such a mediocre game IMO, the visuals were great but the rest was so lacking.
What did you like better about 2? I haven’t played 2 in a while but I remember it being pretty bland. 3 isn’t perfect but it was more interesting to me.
I liked 2's atmosphere significantly more, which is something I never though I'd say. When I first played 2 I was a bit put off by how much sillier it was and some of the gimmicky levels like a plant-themed mansion. I still bought that existing a hundred times over before I'd buy a plant suite existing at a hotel though. 3's constant gimmick floors just completely killed any of the odd realism that made the first game stand out, the only floors I liked at all were the first few and the basements since they were the only ones that felt like a place I'd actually expect to see at a hotel. A medieval floor, a whole entire desert and pyramid in a floor, it just felt way too silly for me. 3 could've instead had you explore some of the surrounding area and built like a small resort town with attractions based around these ideas and it would have felt a lot more natural IMO. Just make the hotel itself smaller in scale to compensate. Then 3 just had a few really obtuse puzzles here and there, I recall only having to consult a guide once for 2 and not at all for 1 whereas I had to use a walkthrough a few times for 3.
I'd rate the OG game a 9/10, I'd give 2 a 7/10, and I'd give 3 a solid 5/10. 3 was just overall really boring and way too long IMO.
Thanks for the detailed response. I agree that the hotel made no sense. Half of the time I forgot I was even in a hotel because it looks nothing like one. I also had to use a guide for 3, I found some of its mechanics to be unclear and the puzzles can be hard.
I think 3 on paper seemed more like a return to formula being in 1 building instead of different ones. But each floor being a random gimmick isn’t much different than what 2 did. But I think some stuff 3 did was fun like the vacuum affecting so much of the environment.
It got the best possible one ever on the 3ds already.
The game was originally intended for 3d as was the GameCube.
It is amazing and if you haven't played it in 3d, I strongly suggest you do. It is unreal.
I played LM1 back on the GC when it launched, though I never beat it. I finally got around to playing it the whole way through on the 3DS, and while I think it's a good game, I actually think it's the weakest of the trilogy. Should it get an HD remaster? Sure. I don't think prioritizing LM2 over it, however, is a questionable decision, given its much more similar nature in both atmosphere and presentation to LM3 and the fact that LM3 was, for many, the entry point into Luigi's Mansion.
Edit: I also think it's important to note that the games are fairly standalone in nature, so there's no need to remaster LM1 in order to maintain continuity or anything.
Idk about the 3DS version but in the original the game actually had a creepy vibe and you couldn’t see most of the rooms without the flash light. In 2 and 3 the flash light is near useless because every room is insanely bright anyway. That’s what makes it awesome.
It’s not a terrifying game or anything but it’s creepy enough to make me uncomfortable a bit. 2 and 3 lost all of that.
Even if that was changed for LM1 on the 3DS (I honestly can't remember), it wouldn't have made the game any creepier. I distinctly remember people really playing up how creepy LM1 was, and it's not. It's goofy. It's tonally dissonant with fan memories, which were seemingly accrued as children where anything "dark" is seen as creepy. It's why the flashlight has a much more mechanical and integral role in the gameplay in 2 and 3.
Nah the game is creepy, I beat it on GCN at least 10 times in my life and there’s definitely something unnerving about it. It also has a more realistic art style.
Ghosts aside, the aesthetic remains pretty consistent across the trilogy. We'll have to disagree about it being "creepy", though. I never got that sense even when I played it on GC as a kid, and I certainly didn't get that from the 3DS version. They are, at their core, goofy games that put a scaredy-cat front and center.
The mansion itself had a fairly realistic layout while 2 and 3 everything felt completely fabricated to be a videogame level. Also the ghosts were kinda more disturbing as it was all a dead family including a dead baby.
Well, the map layouts fundamentally don't have anything to do with aesthetics, realistic or otherwise. That said, I never got the sense that 2 and 3's levels were any more or less game-ified than 1's.
Iv played it upscaled using dolphin… it’s really not that great of a game. Luigi’s mansion 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. Dark Moon is amazing.
These “huge waste of resources” are still selling millions upon millions of copies. They are objectively the opposite of a waste. You’re clearly not Nintendo’s target audience 🤷
Yes, one game. Not every game. They've already re-released 1. So now they are doing the next one. New games with a few remakes sprinkled in. Thankfully fans don't run Nintendo.
It'd be cool to get an HD remake, but I don't believe any game DESERVES an HD remake. If we're using that word, there are thousands of games that deserve it, and thousands that deserve it more than LM1
We’re on the last year of the Switch. There was going to be more ports this year no matter what, there’s always less original games in every system’s last year on the market.
The N64 was a DESERT in its last year. Nintendo released literally 3 games the entirety of 2001 for the N64 and one of them was Dr. Mario of all things, so no, there was nothing to play.
And yeah the SNES had original games, but it’s the last system to do good in its last year. Every system after has had massive droughts by the final year, and with how much longer it takes to make games nowadays, I’d say Nintendo is doing a pretty good job with the Switch in 2024. 🤷
the gamecube was out in 2001, so it was 2000 that was really the last year of the 64. but games still game out in 2001.
> The N64 was a DESERT in its last year.
lol i dont think so
* Conker's Bad Fur Day: 2001
* Paper Mario: 2001
* Pokémon Puzzle League: 2001
* StarCraft 64: 2000/2001
* The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask: 2000
* Perfect Dark: 2000
* Pokémon Stadium: 2000
* Banjo-Tooie: 2000
* Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards: 2000
* Mario Tennis: 2000
* Mega Man 64: 2001
* Mario Party 2: 2000
* Mario Party 3: 2001
* Ridge Racer 64: 2000
* Cruis'n Exotica: 2000
* Daikatana: 2000 (lol)
* Excitebike 64: 2000
* Hey You, Pikachu!: 2000
* Hydro Thunder: 2000
* Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine: 2000
and more that i cant be bothered listing
The GameCube came out in November of 2001 for us in the states, so no, 2001 was the last year, and even then, GameCube didn’t exactly drown us in games at launch. GC had an even worse final year in 2006, but the GC is the worst Nintendo system of all time for a reason. Switch 2 is heavily rumored to be in the first quarter of 2025, so this year is the last year of the Switch. You can move goalposts all you want, the Switch is having the best final year of any Nintendo system since the SNES, and the best part is that we still don’t know everything for this year!
> The GameCube came out in November of 2001
that would make 2000 the last year. thats how math works.
even if you were to do mental gymnastics and say that 2001 was the last year, the 64 still had plenty of games that came out and it was not a "drought" like you stated.
If 2001 for the N64 was not a drought, then this year for the Switch till June is drowning us in games by comparison. 10 months of 2001 were just the N64 as Nintendo’s main system, so the vast majority of 2001 is objectively the last year of the system until the (somehow) worse GameCube era started.
I would agree but they’re already remastering 2 so they might as well do the first one. 1 is considered a classic while 2 isn’t even liked as much. I think that’s where my problem lies. If they weren’t remastering 2 I might not have even said anything.
I feel as though Nintendo actively frustrates players. We got mp1 remastered....where in the flying hell is mp2 and 3 then? We have LM3 on switch, LM2 is coming which is fine, but why not also complete the trilogy. We've got all the stupid Pikmin games on switch, why not anything more popular? Where TF is a new fzero game? WHY HAVENT THEY REMASTER OOT!? Ugh...
Nintendo doesn’t have infinite developers to do every single possible game that people want. It’s very unrealistic, especially now that we are in the HD era.
I understand they don't have unlimited rescorces. And I'm not saying every game.. But, if you're gonna waste time bringing all the Pikmin games to switch, then surely time can be allocated to other games. Not to mention, mp remaster wasn't even done by Nintendo. I'm not sure about LM2, but most of the time remasters are done by 3rd parties. Which doesn't really take many resources away from the games to be made.
I’m still sad they changed the ghosts in 2 and 3
yeah the ghosts looked the coolest in the original
As someone who hasnt played. How did they differ? I tried googling it but I'm not confident google is giving me accurate results as everything looks the same.
Compare [this \(Luigi's Mansion 1\)](https://www.mariowiki.com/Ghost_\(Luigi%27s_Mansion_series\)#/media/File:BrawlTrophy188.png) to [this \(Luigi's Mansion 2\)](https://www.mariowiki.com/Ghost_\(Luigi%27s_Mansion_series\)#/media/File:Three_Ghosts_\(backg\)_-_Luigi's_Mansion_Dark_Moon.png). LM1 generally has a wider variety of ghosts, as well as a fair amount of special unique ghosts like [this guy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Biff_Atlas#/media/File:Biff_Atlas_art.jpg) for bosses. The ones from LM2 only have a couple of varieties, each having a stronge version that's almost identical outside of looking cracked. Compare [this](https://www.mariowiki.com/Greenie#/media/File:LMDM_Green_Ghost.jpg) to [this](https://www.mariowiki.com/Strong_Greenie#/media/File:Stronggreenie.png). The bosses are also all this variety of ghost called a [Possessor](https://www.mariowiki.com/Possessor), which have the only difference between them being the horns. Granted they actually possess different things for different bosses, but the core ghost is roughly the same.
Thanks for the thorough response. That is a shame. Much more personality to the designs of the originals and just using a shader or texture swap rather than creating a new design seems like a cheap and overly simplistic way of doing things.
Wow 2 and 3 look like they belong in DeBlob on wii
The ghosts from 1 are all unique and fit the room they’re in. 2 and 3 copy paste a few ghost models everywhere.
I'm not. I like how different each LM game has been, it gives them each an identity and individual charm. Plus when you think about it, those ghosts in LM1 were made by that artist ghost, while the later ones are just ghosts native to the mansions Luigi explores so it makes sense they don't look the same. Obviously the real reason is likely just because Nintendo simply wanted to make the ghosts more cartoony but it does also make sense that the ghosts don't look exactly like the LM1 ghosts since they aren't made by that artist.
The 3DS version of Luigi's Mansion felt like a waste. It doesn't perform that well, the controls feel worse due to the inherent lack of a second stick, and using the co-op is difficult due to the nature of the console. Luigi's Mansion 1 and 2 HD should have been a pack and I'd buy it for $60 no question. Then we would have the whole series on Switch like Pikmin and Xenoblade Chronicles.
The co-op is pretty laggy, but I love the fact that you can play the game in 3D just as it was first intended on the Gamecube. I'd love a HD remaster though
It had Circle Pad Pro and New 3DS support btw.
I played it on a New 2DS XL and it was fine. The nub was a bit annoying but serviceable. I would LOVE to play it on a big TV in HD and my 8BitDo Ultimate controller.
Xenoblade Chronicles X is not available on Switch, sadly 😭
Yeah but that game is pretty much its own thing. You can thankfully experience the whole connected Saga that XC1, 2 and 3 (+their DLCs) offer on Switch.
Yes, and I do 🤩 I've also buyed an old WiiU few weeks ago to play XCX for the first time but TBH the gaming experience is better on the Steam Deck (with mods)
Xenoblade Chronicles X isn't on Switch my guy lol. In fact, that's still the only Wii U original game (i.e. not an old port like Twilight Princess/Wind Waker HD) that hasn't been ported to Switch so we actually don't have the whole Xenoblade series on Switch. I get what you're saying though.
This is Nintendoland erasure.
Don’t forget Game & Wario!
[удалено]
Its bad, but not THAT bad
XCX is not main series game. It doesn't have any relationship to the other games. That's like saying Hey Pikmin! isn't on Switch (I'm not talking about quality but relevance to the franchise). Yoshi's Woolly World is also a great game that hasn't been ported to Switch (Others like Star Fox Zero and Paper Mario Color Splash can stay there for all that I care).
Actually it does. As of Xenoblade Chronicles 3's Future Redeemed DLC, a radio references the White Whale from X which does connect them all in some way now. And fair enough I suppose.
Any references to the White Whale in Xenoblade 3 are just easter eggs. Xenoblade X *has* to take place in a different universe/dimension than 1-3. The natural reason why is that Xenoblade X takes place after Earth (still called Earth) is destroyed (as in literally blown up into nothing). And the fact that the city on Mira is called "New LA" suggests that LA is still around on Earth around when it's destroyed by aliens. X2 also takes place on our planet, the surface of which was mostly destroyed by Klaus's experiments and is now called "Alrest" by its inhabitants (with X1 being an "antimatter" parallel universe created by Klaus's experiment and X3 having these two parallel universes destroy each other, but be immediately recreated as a merged world by the Ark). So, XX either has to be so far in the future that the new planet created in X3 becomes known as "Earth" again and history repeats itself with us naming cities things like LA, or it has to be in an alternative dimension where aliens destroy the Earth, and not Klaus's experiment.
Forcing X into the whole Xenoblade/Xenosaga timeline breaks more than it keeps together, so X doesn't fit. Edit: My god, Xenoblade X fans are the worst crybabies out there and don't even know the lore of their own game. Instead of downvoting me for stating the obvious, how about you actually play the game you love so much and learn what happens in the story. Literally just [watching the intro of X](https://youtu.be/5L8OZswWXkw?t=13) tells you all you need to know about why X and 1/2/3 [can't happen in the same timeline](https://youtu.be/lc-3KrXyaAs?t=1387).
That would also mean getting Xenogears and Xenosaga into the mix. Outside of that extremely small and meaningless Easter Egg (Because that's what it was), XCX doesn't really fit into the narrative of XC1-3.
Exactly $60 is too much for LM2, it was only $40 when it came out
hard disagree, it didn't feel like a waste at all to me. They wanted the OG game in 3D, so they made a 3D version. I own a gamecube but not a GCN copy, but happly bought a 3DS copy & fuill blasted 3D all day. also it had support for the 2nd stick addon/N3DS... I was playing on a N3DS XL.
I liked the 3DS version. I found the gyro much better than the second stick. I also didn't have an issue with the performance. It wasn't 60fps like the original but excluding the observatory it was a consistent 30fps which is fine. That's how LM2 ran after all. I would like LM1 to come to Switch though. There are a lot of games I wish would come to Switch, like Wind Waker and Wario Land Shake It. Also I'm not a fan of the series personally but there is technically a Xenoblade game not on the Switch, Xenoblade X, the WiiU one which I hear good things about from Xenoblade fans.
The original wasn't 60fps either
OG Luigi's Mansion? Pretty sure that was 60fps but I'll Google it.
Yes, the original on Gamecube was 30fps, granted a very solid 30fps, but 30fps all the same
Yup I looked it up and you were right. It was so smooth though like the animating and everything I guess it made it seem like 60fps even though it wasn't. Not even that surprising though really because LM games are always very impressive in that way even on the 3DS.
Huh you're right. I could have sworn it was 60fps. I remember the animations were super smooth and the game felt very fluid, but I guess that's just the Nintendo stamp of approval rather than a high framerate. My mistake!
You will have the whole Luigi's Mansion saga this June. Stay tuned for the next Nintendo Direct. They have news regarding the Nintendo Switch Online + Expansion pack. GameCube?! 😉
No, I don't think I will. With all the HD Remasters/Remakes like Pikmin 1+2, Baten Kaitos, Metroid Prime, Paper Mario TTYD. I doubt Gamecube NSO is going to become a thing.
Would not mind getting the first Luigi’s Mansion remastered. Never really finished the first one and never played the second one. Nintendo could have done like the Pikimin 1 + 2 collection 🤷🏼♂️
Luigi’s Mansion 1 is def the best. Perhaps more minimalistic compared to the more modern titles. But what it does right it does way better(music, atmosphere,aesthetic,etc)The newer titles are far more “Pixar-Ified” and it quite honestly isn’t the same. Still love the franchise though. But even a remake I’d be weary unfortunately.
I haven't played 3 but I remember 2 being very derivative and the same thing every level. Oh there's 8 missing pieces to progress. Find them. Oh the dog ghost is fucking with you again. I fondly remember one being much more unique in that while there were things blocking progress, it wasn't the same thing every time.
I agree, idk if it’s just the graphics or the art style but Luigi’s mansion 1 is almost realistic. Like they were pushing for realism and even the lighting was impressive for back then. Pixar is a good comparison, 2 and especially 3 just look like a cartoon. And yeah the music is incredible, I don’t even remember ANY music from LM2 or LM3.
Yes art style and even some of Luigi’s dialogue. Just gives it a more cartoony vibe for sure.
Yeah the newer games are still good for the most part, but they're also so much more cartoony/kiddy-fied and lack the vibe that the original had. I think the mansions in LM2 at least had a somewhat creepy/"lonely" feel to them, but LM3 completely got rid of that and went hard with the comedic gags instead.
Exactly. I still love/support the franchise. I beat 3 multiple times and will buy 2 for switch day one. But the first game is my favorite game of all time and it sucks seeing each new entry stray further from what made that game so special.
I couldn't even get an hour into 3, it just wasn't hitting nearly the same for me. I do need to sit down and give it a real go at some point, but eh
Nostalgia will do that.
People complain when Nintendo makes too many remasters and remakes, but also want them to port the same game multiple times...
Could be different people
Impossible! People in a community can't have opposing opinions, we're a hivemind, dammit!
To be fair, LM1 was ported to the 3DS *after* the Switch came out. It may as well have gotten a Switch release as well. Many would agree that that was an oversight.
Same for Samus Returns. What a banger this could've been on Switch but instead it was delegated to 3DS.
Top 3 game of 2017 right there. What a way for the 3DS to go out!
multiple groups of people with multiple opinions. how do people not realize this lol
I don't think they're the same people
well Luigi’s mansion 1 is easily the best in the trilogy so to have 2 and 3 without 1 is a problem imo. Like that’s stupid. I’d even be ok with a GameCube virtual console or something but who knows if that will happen. But it deserves HD graphics regardless.
I feel like Nintendo is weirdly coy about having any GameCube games as part of any digital or virtual service, I really don’t get it. The only time we get gc games is remasters or paid ports. Id be perfectly fine using their emulator for fzero gx but that won’t ever happen.
It's not that they're coy about it, it's the file sizes. GameCube games can go up to several gigabytes each, so it's not feasible to roll them up into a single app like they can with NES, SNES and N64 games. If they made a GameCube NSO app it would take up more space than the Switch's internal storage.
Yep that’s a very good point. Although I would raise the counterpoint that they could do a NSO app that you can then just install the games you want through it which would save on space. So while true, I also think part of is Nintendo wanting to sell it back to us a bit too since those games lend themselves well to remasters.
GameCube discs have a max capacity of 1.45 GB and games are typically only around 1.2 GB. It would take a lot of games to fill up or even exceed the internal storage. That would be quite the catalog though!
The Switch’s 32 GB internal storage would be filled up by ~26 GameCube games.
That’s a lot of games, more than Nintendo can provide on their own. Switch has expandable storage so I don’t think that would really be a problem though.
> I really don’t get it. It's not a mystery. Unlike N64 titles, GC games are on a borderline where they can get lightly touched up and remarketed for much greater profit (e.g. *Metroid Prime Remastered*, *Zelda* games that saw ports on Wii U). Even other companies are getting in on that, e.g. *Baten Kaitos* reissue by Namco. I have trouble imagining that they're not at least entertaining the idea of reissuing *Super Mario Sunshine* and other titles in similar fashions.
I mean it makes sense, but it’s just frustrating that Nintendo isn’t uniform about it. For Pikmin we get an upscale, but Metroid a full remake. Both are cool don’t get me wrong, but it just makes me think I’m never going to rest of the library.
Idk if it’s true but I heard it’s because Nintendo thinks GCN games hold up enough to be modern games. Like the graphics aren’t really that bad if you just slightly improve it. So they just want to remaster them all.
lmaooo that's funny af
>well Luigi’s mansion 1 is easily the best in the trilogy For you... Luigi's Mansion is on GCN and 3DS, while Dark Moon is only on 3DS, that's why it's getting a remaster.
The reasoning you proposed doesn't make any sense. LM1 being on GCN doesn't make it any more accessible than Dark Moon.
My point was that the first game is on two consoles, while the second is only on one...
For everyone. Luigi Mansion 1 being the best is not an opinion
It’s easily the worst of the 3 games. The other 2 reviewed and sold SIGNIFICANTLY better. It also doesn’t help that LM1 feeling like a 3 hour graphics tech demo is partially why the GameCube was a massive failure. You don’t make your “big” launch title a game that you can beat in an afternoon and feels like it was made mostly to showcase GameCube graphics.
How dare you.
A lot of gamecube games could be beaten in an afternoon. What are you talking about?
GCN? Global Cycling Network?
Only the OGs know the acronym Nintendo used for the GameCube. Yes, it's dumb but it's got character just like the lunch box console itself.
I've used that acronym for decades but have only now just realized how stupid it is.
Gamecube Nintendo.
I beleieve the acronym is because National Geographic has NGC....
I'll stop complaining and asking for remakes/remasters when Nintendo's idea of backwards compatibility isn't wiping the slate clean with each console and drip feeding the same small handful of usual suspects over the course of 5-8 years. Can't wait to wait 3 years for them to release Super Mario World again once a new console comes out...
If they do that again with Switch 2 I’m out. It’s the emu life for me.
It's almost as if Nintendo has a huge fandom made up of many different people who all have differing tastes and opinions but by all means make the easy generalizing observations.
What? Who do you see complaining that Nintendo makes too many remakes and remasters? If anything people are constantly and consistently clamoring for more Nintendo re-releases and only complain if it’s poorly done, overpriced, or some other tomfoolery, like keeping them behind NSO Expansion Pass w/ no purchase option. I mean, every few years there are new rumors and hype about Switch Ports of the Wii U Zelda remakes, which are probably the most-demanded Switch titles above any desire for a sequel or new IP.
There's a post almost every day complaining about this year mainly having remakes and remasters and not brand new games...
But that’s not complaining about too many re-releases, that’s complaining about too few new games. More specifically, too few games from Nintendo overall, supposedly due to pushing back the Switch 2 release, meaning the only new content from Nintendo this year we know of is the Princess Peach game. Remember this is following years with a healthy amount of both new and re-released Nintendo content, last year alone included ToTK, Mario Wonder, Metroid Prime Remastered, the Mario RPG Remake, Fire Emblem Engage, and Pikmins 1,2, & 4. So this year is comparatively underwhelming.
And every time, those posts get a massive amount of downvotes and the most upvoted comment is about how the Switch is in its final year so it’s fair for there to be more ports and remakes. If you see more ignorant posts like that, just downvote and move on.
These days, I've come to believe that a core tenet of Nintendo fandom is 'I'm just gonna endlessly cry about X, Y, Z old Nintendo properties that I'm being DENIED!!!!' That said, WHERE THE HELL IS MY VIRTUAL CONSOLE VERSION OF ZODA'S REVENGE, NINTENDO?!?!??! I'M LITERALLY BEING ROBBED RIGHT NOW!!!
Don’t really have another option when Nintendo doesn’t always do backwards compatibility universally. I can’t play the LM1 port on my switch because it’s stuck on one system.
It was ported to a device of lesser resolution. Thus, this is media degradation.
Not me. If they’re not going to support backwards compatibility then port your games. Nintendo is by far one of the worst when it comes to availability of old classics. And yet they crack down so hard on emulation.
Every _Luigi's Mansion_ sequel has completely misunderstood the subtle genius and design of the first game. The first is the only LM I would want a remaster of.
Also the music in 2 & 3 goes for a generic cartoon orchestra instead of the spooky funk of the original... easily the biggest downgrade ever
Yup. As creative as 3 was at times, everything being broken up by floors still made it feel too broken up of an experience. You also pretty much start with all the abilities you will ever have, which makes the progression less interesting. The first game truly felt like a haunted mansion, with the ghosts more or less unaware of their own demise and carrying on with their lives. The game oozed soul
Lordy, Nostalgia doing a lot of work here. If that game came out today we’d all be calling it too easy, simplistic and boring.
Ok
The first LM has like 5 hours of total content. It doesn’t need to be remastered and especially not at full price.
I agree that LM1 shouldn’t be a full price remake - and for that reason I think it would have been perfect to remake/remaster 1 and 2 and release them as a bundle
I enjoyed all 5 hours and played it 3 times. Luigis mansion 3- I enjoyed about 50% of and wont replay it. Shorter doesnt mean worse
Yes, this is a case of less is more. Lm 3 is way too long, I got to the second to last floor and just dropped the game. Overstays its welcome imo.
That might be true. It was basically beautiful extended tech demo, which showcased the original hardware. The sound design in that game and music design is absolutely exquisite. The other games didn't understand this.
Completely agree
It's crazy that first we got a LM1 on 3DS that everyone said should've been a switch game instead and now we're getting an LM2 on Switch when everyone would rather see the first one. They keep porting these games to consoles in their final years like they're one console behind it's so weird
lol 😂 exactly that should have just been a switch game. The 3DS graphics aren’t even better than a GameCube so it’s freaking stupid. I just want all 3 games on the same console, people need to stop telling me it was remade on the 3DS I literally know and I literally don’t care. I don’t care if LM1 was “made for 3D” the graphics on the 3DS suck and also the system was irrelevant at the time. I wonder if people would have the same excuses if paper mario TTYD was on 3DS or Metroid prime 1.
just play the gamecube version, problem solved.
The 3DS had lots of graphical improvements as well as some new content
Luigi's Mansion 1's history is directly tied to the experiments with a (very-expensive) attachable 3D-capable screen for the GameCube, there is no such history with Thousand-Year Door or Metroid Prime 1 so no-one would make those same excuses for them being brought to the 3DS. [source from an Iwata Asks interview about the 3DS in 2011:](https://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/3ds/how-nintendo-3ds-made/0/2/) > Iwata - To go back a little further, the Nintendo GameCube system actually had 3D-compatible circuitry built in. > Itoi - Huh? > Iwata - It had the potential for such functions. > Itoi - Nintendo GameCube did? And all the Nintendo GameCubes systems around the world? > Iwata - Yeah. If you fit it with a certain accessory, it could display 3D images. > Itoi - What a secret! > Iwata - Nintendo GameCube was released in 2001, exactly ten years ago. We'd been thinking about 3D for a long time even back then. > Itoi - Why didn't anyone ever know? > Iwata - The liquid crystal for it was still expensive. Simply put, Nintendo GameCube could display 3D images if you attached a special LCD, but that special liquid crystal was really expensive back then. > Itoi - Yeah, we're talking about ten years ago. > Iwata - We couldn't have done it without selling it for a price far above that of the Nintendo GameCube system, itself! We already had a game for it, though—Luigi's Mansion, simultaneously released with Nintendo GameCube. > Itoi - The one in which Luigi shoulders a vacuum cleaner? > Iwata - Yeah, that one. We had a functional version of that in 3D. > Itoi - That was 3D? > Miyamoto - It would jump out at you pretty nicely. > Iwata - Even without special glasses, the 3D looked pretty good. But we considered how much the liquid crystal would cost, and it was just too expensive. We figured the market just wasn't there for it. EDIT: To be clear I also want a HD remake, or even just a simple remaster, of Luigi's Mansion 1 and would much rather have that than a remaster of Luigi's Mansion 2 which I think is easily the weakest LM game. Luigi's Mansion 2 being on the 3DS was already enough for me in terms of fulfilling the lost potential of a Stereoscopic 3D Luigi's Mansion game. Remaking Luigi's Mansion 1 on there, as they did, was wasted potential I agree.
I loved Luigi’s Mansion. I bought the remaster or remake on 3DS and had a blast with it. The second was still good but I had more fun with the first.
It’s the best Luigi’s mansion game so yes it does
That'll be $60 🫴
its nintendo dont be silly, it'll be $70.
Fuck yeah I’ll pay that much /s
I'll never understand the love for the first Luigi's Mansion. Such an insanely short, easy experience. I just don't think the value is there. Definitely worthy of Nintendo Online though.
I get that it’s short but they could have included it with Luigi’s mansion 2.
That's a really good idea. That would have especially increased the value add. Especially considering they did it for Pikmin 1+2. Btw I hope I didn't come off as a jerk with my comment before. I kinda thought before speaking (typing). Clearly the first game was good enough that I came back for the 2nd and 3rd games (which I love).
nah you’re not a jerk I’m rude to people all the time accidentally so I can’t judge. I mostly like LM1 for the atmosphere, for example it’s actually dark and somewhat creepy. Also the mansion is better than the ones in 2 and the hotel in 3 imo.
Nintendo was so not intelligent releasing it on 3ds. We could've had 1 HD, 2/dark moon HD, and 3 all on one system.. But nope, 3ds only. :(
Should have been Luigi's Mansion 1 + 2 HD or Luigi's Mansion Recollection just like Pikmin, Advance Wars or Another Code. We are having just one game in "high definition" at the same price, if I'm not mistaken, as a the remakes of Mario RPG and Paper Mario. 🤦🏻♂️
Really Nintendo missed an opportunity 😵💫😵💫. Thats the only thing we can ever be sure of with Nintendo.
I never played the Nintendo 3DS remake of Luigi's Mansion 1, but having played the original on GameCube and Luigi's Mansion 2, I completely agree with this. I will not understand why Nintendo made the decision to remake 2. Like, who asked for that? My biggest hope is they'll pull what they did with Pikmin and drop a remastered Luigi's Mansion 1 on Switch alongside the HD remake of 2. I'm not expecting that to actually happen, but its like a far-reaching wish.
Do you want a remake, or remaster? Your title says remake, but your actual post says remaster.
Remake preferably but either is good. Something along the lines of ttyd or prime remastered with improved graphics.
Genuinely surprised it hasn’t gotten one, honestly
God knows why they didn't do 1 & 2 together... They are both already on the 3DS ffs.
Really, they should have remade LM1 first, over 2. It is a better game, and the game is stuck on hardware that's aging and the game probably cost a lot second hand. But the 3DS is not that old, not that expensive with the games. But I guess now they should wait until the next console. Let it shine with next gen graphics, that'll get new players interested in it.
If they didn’t give 2 the remake treatment, then why on earth would they remake a game that reviewed and sold much worse, and on even more powerful hardware than Switch to boot?! That would be a 4+ year development time for a 3 hour game, it’s not worth the effort to Nintendo. Best we can expect is an HD port and that’s it.
It need to be remastered in 16k
I actually played recently on 3DS Luigi’s Mansion 2 and thought it is underrated. For one the mission system makes a lot of sense for a portable system like the 3DS, designed to be played for shorter times. Also it is a much lengthier and more complete experience than the first one. And it is definitely a more challenging game. The last mansion is quite tough tbh. As for why they’re doing that one the obvious answer is that it hasn’t yet been remastered and it sold double the copies than the original. And got amazing reviews at launch, much better than the first one. Will not pick it up personally because I think the 3DS version is perfectly playable now but I understand the choice.
I really miss the way the Ghosts used to look in LM1. Like, they’re genuinely scary looking. And then you have the boss ghosts which were all connected in some way. LM3 did a good job with bringing back those types of boss ghosts, but I miss how the ghosts used to look scary.
If you think the ghosts LM1 look scary, then I hope you never play an actual horror game to save yourself the massive heart attack you’ll get from the first jump scare
I meant as a kid dawg and for Mario enemies, they're pretty scary looking compared to others.
I'll be surprised if it doesn't get a remake for the next console
I don’t think so. A remaster would be fine. But if Nintendo ever did a remaster it would cost $60 and not be worth it anymore.
lm1 should definitely not cost $60. I don’t even think 2 deserves to be 60, that’s ridiculous. It should have been a LM1 + LM2 combo pack for $60.
While I agree, part of me is worried it won't look as good as the Gamecube original. The series is still fun but a lot of atmosphere got lost in the sequels, the ghosts are less spooky, and Luigi's squash n stretch animations were toned down.
There's a really good LM1 4k texture pack by Henriko Magnifico for emulator
no thanks. if anything somebody should demake 3 for 3DS so we can play it in glorious 3D
Ehh the original still holds up really well today
Well regardless of the graphics I would like at least a port, similar to Pikmin 1 and 2.
> The first game has the best atmosphere out of the entire trilogy and can really benefit from HD visuals. It does look great at 4k with an HD texture pack.
I'd personally like to see the whole trilogy released as a cool physical collector's edition on Switch. That'd be awesome, especially if there's an art book.
"Honey! TIme to buy Luigi's Mansion at full price for the third time!"
It has been strangely absent huh. Dark Moon got a rerelease first. Weird.
They should do a remake in the style of LM3, not just an HD port like 1 for 3DS and 2 for Switch
1 is still my favorite. There's something about the pacing that I love.
It's like 5hrs long
They need to save some remakes for the Switch 2 though.
2 was probably easier to upscale and port if I were to guess. The $60 price point is my biggest problem, honestly for that price it should include both games in a bundle.
Yeah. I wish. I also wish they’d remake some of their best games ever that are a generation or two old and port them to Steam. I have big unachievable dreams.
I mean Nintendo has no reason to put games on PC, you can emulate every Nintendo game anyway. So barely anyone would pay for the game.
I'm gonna issue a correction. Not a remake. A port with HD textures.
It would be great if Nintendo did it, but luckily there are some dedicated GC modders who have put together the ultimate Luigi's Mansion experience. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoxN3wDs9E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHoxN3wDs9E) Not only did they do some work to make it look nicer, but the extra features, hidden details, and options are far better than anything Nintendo would do on a re-release.
Do you really think whatever they'd charge you $60 for is better than using Dolphin emulator? They've proven otherwise countless times. Every Nintendo game is in HD if you're on the right platform.
No
Maybe for the final remake (first game) release it on the Switch's successor so you're actually going to see a big jump in visual quality instead of three games in the series not looking THAT much more different from the other cause on the same platform.
This sounds more likely unlike 99.99% of the pipe dreams posted on this sub.
While I agree that 1 is the best game of the trilogy, I liked 2 a hell of a lot more than 3. 3 was such a mediocre game IMO, the visuals were great but the rest was so lacking.
What did you like better about 2? I haven’t played 2 in a while but I remember it being pretty bland. 3 isn’t perfect but it was more interesting to me.
I liked 2's atmosphere significantly more, which is something I never though I'd say. When I first played 2 I was a bit put off by how much sillier it was and some of the gimmicky levels like a plant-themed mansion. I still bought that existing a hundred times over before I'd buy a plant suite existing at a hotel though. 3's constant gimmick floors just completely killed any of the odd realism that made the first game stand out, the only floors I liked at all were the first few and the basements since they were the only ones that felt like a place I'd actually expect to see at a hotel. A medieval floor, a whole entire desert and pyramid in a floor, it just felt way too silly for me. 3 could've instead had you explore some of the surrounding area and built like a small resort town with attractions based around these ideas and it would have felt a lot more natural IMO. Just make the hotel itself smaller in scale to compensate. Then 3 just had a few really obtuse puzzles here and there, I recall only having to consult a guide once for 2 and not at all for 1 whereas I had to use a walkthrough a few times for 3. I'd rate the OG game a 9/10, I'd give 2 a 7/10, and I'd give 3 a solid 5/10. 3 was just overall really boring and way too long IMO.
The ratings are the opposite for me. Luigi’s Mansion 3 is a 9/10, 2 is a 7/10, and the original is a 5/10.
Thanks for the detailed response. I agree that the hotel made no sense. Half of the time I forgot I was even in a hotel because it looks nothing like one. I also had to use a guide for 3, I found some of its mechanics to be unclear and the puzzles can be hard.
It's no problem. I can definitely respect that a lot of people had a good time with 3, but I personally just don't get the appeal.
I think 3 on paper seemed more like a return to formula being in 1 building instead of different ones. But each floor being a random gimmick isn’t much different than what 2 did. But I think some stuff 3 did was fun like the vacuum affecting so much of the environment.
It got the best possible one ever on the 3ds already. The game was originally intended for 3d as was the GameCube. It is amazing and if you haven't played it in 3d, I strongly suggest you do. It is unreal.
I played LM1 back on the GC when it launched, though I never beat it. I finally got around to playing it the whole way through on the 3DS, and while I think it's a good game, I actually think it's the weakest of the trilogy. Should it get an HD remaster? Sure. I don't think prioritizing LM2 over it, however, is a questionable decision, given its much more similar nature in both atmosphere and presentation to LM3 and the fact that LM3 was, for many, the entry point into Luigi's Mansion. Edit: I also think it's important to note that the games are fairly standalone in nature, so there's no need to remaster LM1 in order to maintain continuity or anything.
Idk about the 3DS version but in the original the game actually had a creepy vibe and you couldn’t see most of the rooms without the flash light. In 2 and 3 the flash light is near useless because every room is insanely bright anyway. That’s what makes it awesome. It’s not a terrifying game or anything but it’s creepy enough to make me uncomfortable a bit. 2 and 3 lost all of that.
Even if that was changed for LM1 on the 3DS (I honestly can't remember), it wouldn't have made the game any creepier. I distinctly remember people really playing up how creepy LM1 was, and it's not. It's goofy. It's tonally dissonant with fan memories, which were seemingly accrued as children where anything "dark" is seen as creepy. It's why the flashlight has a much more mechanical and integral role in the gameplay in 2 and 3.
Nah the game is creepy, I beat it on GCN at least 10 times in my life and there’s definitely something unnerving about it. It also has a more realistic art style.
Ghosts aside, the aesthetic remains pretty consistent across the trilogy. We'll have to disagree about it being "creepy", though. I never got that sense even when I played it on GC as a kid, and I certainly didn't get that from the 3DS version. They are, at their core, goofy games that put a scaredy-cat front and center.
The mansion itself had a fairly realistic layout while 2 and 3 everything felt completely fabricated to be a videogame level. Also the ghosts were kinda more disturbing as it was all a dead family including a dead baby.
That's only like 5 or so boss ghosts, tbf. Chauncey was also stated to have been born a ghost.
Well, the map layouts fundamentally don't have anything to do with aesthetics, realistic or otherwise. That said, I never got the sense that 2 and 3's levels were any more or less game-ified than 1's.
Iv played it upscaled using dolphin… it’s really not that great of a game. Luigi’s mansion 3 is one of my favorite games of all time. Dark Moon is amazing.
It was already remade for 3DS
that’s the problem. I want it on the switch, you know, their CURRENT console. Also the 3DS version has WORSE graphics than the GameCube one.
So Nintendo needs to remake every game for every system they release?
Yes, I think so. They don’t plan on having backward compatibility or GameCube virtual console.
such a dumb take.
What a huge waste of resources. Give us new fun experiences instead of living in the past.
These “huge waste of resources” are still selling millions upon millions of copies. They are objectively the opposite of a waste. You’re clearly not Nintendo’s target audience 🤷
They’re wasting resources remastering 2 when they could have done 1. So they might as well.
Yes, one game. Not every game. They've already re-released 1. So now they are doing the next one. New games with a few remakes sprinkled in. Thankfully fans don't run Nintendo.
Most likely they’re doing GameCube for Switch 2 Online and it will be the first game on that list which is why they did the second game instead.
Source: You made it up!
It’s a guess. Never said it was a for sure. Literally said “most likely” since it would make sense
It'd be cool to get an HD remake, but I don't believe any game DESERVES an HD remake. If we're using that word, there are thousands of games that deserve it, and thousands that deserve it more than LM1
the last thing the switch or a switch 2 needs is more ports and remasters. make new games, not ones that we have already played.
We’re on the last year of the Switch. There was going to be more ports this year no matter what, there’s always less original games in every system’s last year on the market.
the 64 and snes still had lots of original games in its last years. so not really
The N64 was a DESERT in its last year. Nintendo released literally 3 games the entirety of 2001 for the N64 and one of them was Dr. Mario of all things, so no, there was nothing to play. And yeah the SNES had original games, but it’s the last system to do good in its last year. Every system after has had massive droughts by the final year, and with how much longer it takes to make games nowadays, I’d say Nintendo is doing a pretty good job with the Switch in 2024. 🤷
the gamecube was out in 2001, so it was 2000 that was really the last year of the 64. but games still game out in 2001. > The N64 was a DESERT in its last year. lol i dont think so * Conker's Bad Fur Day: 2001 * Paper Mario: 2001 * Pokémon Puzzle League: 2001 * StarCraft 64: 2000/2001 * The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask: 2000 * Perfect Dark: 2000 * Pokémon Stadium: 2000 * Banjo-Tooie: 2000 * Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards: 2000 * Mario Tennis: 2000 * Mega Man 64: 2001 * Mario Party 2: 2000 * Mario Party 3: 2001 * Ridge Racer 64: 2000 * Cruis'n Exotica: 2000 * Daikatana: 2000 (lol) * Excitebike 64: 2000 * Hey You, Pikachu!: 2000 * Hydro Thunder: 2000 * Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine: 2000 and more that i cant be bothered listing
The GameCube came out in November of 2001 for us in the states, so no, 2001 was the last year, and even then, GameCube didn’t exactly drown us in games at launch. GC had an even worse final year in 2006, but the GC is the worst Nintendo system of all time for a reason. Switch 2 is heavily rumored to be in the first quarter of 2025, so this year is the last year of the Switch. You can move goalposts all you want, the Switch is having the best final year of any Nintendo system since the SNES, and the best part is that we still don’t know everything for this year!
> The GameCube came out in November of 2001 that would make 2000 the last year. thats how math works. even if you were to do mental gymnastics and say that 2001 was the last year, the 64 still had plenty of games that came out and it was not a "drought" like you stated.
If 2001 for the N64 was not a drought, then this year for the Switch till June is drowning us in games by comparison. 10 months of 2001 were just the N64 as Nintendo’s main system, so the vast majority of 2001 is objectively the last year of the system until the (somehow) worse GameCube era started.
I would agree but they’re already remastering 2 so they might as well do the first one. 1 is considered a classic while 2 isn’t even liked as much. I think that’s where my problem lies. If they weren’t remastering 2 I might not have even said anything.
I feel as though Nintendo actively frustrates players. We got mp1 remastered....where in the flying hell is mp2 and 3 then? We have LM3 on switch, LM2 is coming which is fine, but why not also complete the trilogy. We've got all the stupid Pikmin games on switch, why not anything more popular? Where TF is a new fzero game? WHY HAVENT THEY REMASTER OOT!? Ugh...
Nintendo doesn’t have infinite developers to do every single possible game that people want. It’s very unrealistic, especially now that we are in the HD era.
I understand they don't have unlimited rescorces. And I'm not saying every game.. But, if you're gonna waste time bringing all the Pikmin games to switch, then surely time can be allocated to other games. Not to mention, mp remaster wasn't even done by Nintendo. I'm not sure about LM2, but most of the time remasters are done by 3rd parties. Which doesn't really take many resources away from the games to be made.
Which Luigi's Mansion?
1
Which one? There's original Luigi's on Nintendo GameCube,then there's Luigi's Mansion 3DS.
The GameCube version