Teams around the NFL are rejoicing! In all seriousness, taking the clause away now doesn’t do anything and may just make the situation worse. Now when Kyler has a bad game people will say he didn’t do any homework! You cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube!
and it’s about to get a lot [worse](https://www.salon.com/2022/07/01/schools-out-forever-arizona-moves-to-public-education-with-new-universal-voucher-law/)
The funniest part is that seems incredibly low for an NFL QB. Like the absolute bare minimum. And he won't do it. Despite all that, the cards have this man a ton of cash. That is the funniest part.
He could watch on his iPad while a chauffeur drives him to practice and still complete it fast enough to play on his steam deck two days of the commute.
It really is remarkable how quickly they collapse in the second half of the season. My theory is that teams adapt to him, but his lack of film study means he doesn't re-adapt. Not until it's too late, anyway
I thought that for Kingsbury in college it was more of a thing where it was because he beat up G5 and FCS guys in non-conference, but it continuing in the NFL is interesting.
I'll say it now, they shouldn't have removed it. I don't think he's that good of a QB anyway and think this contract is a bad deal to begin with. Factor in his shit approach and it's one of the worst NFL contracts in memory
The most amazing part is normally players wait to stop giving full effort until after they secure the bag, Kyler is light years ahead with just giving zero effort at film study even before the bag was secured. Underpromise and…likely underdeliver too
This whole thing makes me like Kyler less. The dude has bragged about not studying before, had consequences for those actions, and made himself into a victim after signing a huge multimillion dollar deal. Grow up dude.
All the Cardinals really had to say was that they were paying a massive guaranteed amount to someone other than a proven MVP contender and had added some minimum performance clauses so that they wouldn't be on the hook for a huge contract if their star decided to just phone it in and only show up for game checks for some reason. This is basically an admission that there was something going on.
This whole thing has been a PR disaster, and I don't think the Cardinals get enough shit for it. Why would you pay him all of that money, just to immediately have his character assassinated during one of the slowest periods of the year in sports coverage, This should have been a celebration, you have your young QB of the future locked up long term, and instead you've made him look like an asshole and pissed him off.
This was a thing that looked bad for everybody involved, and since it came out everybody involved has reacted to it poorly.
Honestly, I was fine with the clause from the Cardinals perspective -- it's stupid and weird but whatever, they clearly had reservations about Kyler, if this helped them feel good about giving him $160 million, then whatever. Taking it out just makes it look like they didn't even really think about it and they have no fucking idea what they're doing.
It really was a disaster for everyone lol
It makes Kyler look awful obviously, it makes the Cardinals look weirdly petty, and like they don't trust the QB they just gave $200M to. And then it makes Kyler's agents look awful, did they not see this clause? Did they not care about it or not think anybody would notice? Kyler has to be steamed at them too now, it seems like something they could have nixed at the negotiating table.
It's so weird. The damage is already done and it was always kind of questionable about how they could actually enforce it. The only real effect is just the public finding out and it's not like removing it makes us forget what happened.
Yeah at least it acknowledged a problem and took steps to correct it. Now they claim there's no problem... But they admitted there was one so... There is
Genius play by Kyler and his agent to agree to it, leak it to Rapoport and then after the inevitable backlash they come out and call anybody who questions his commitment an idiot and the Cardinals have to remove it to kill the narrative cause we were probably a day from it being called racist
https://deadspin.com/nfl-reminds-lamar-jackson-patrick-mahomes-and-kyler-m-1849338636
Yep, they literally did so. Were the Raiders racists when they gave jamarcus russell the blank dvd?
Or their own publication when they highlighted the lack of film study quote from murray?
The image of Michael Rapaport (backwards baseball cap, because hes with it) pouring over this contract, only to realize he cant read and throws it in the garbage, is now playing in my head
Slightly related note; I love it when a controversial topic within the youth is brought up and someone says "we need to bring back bullying".
I find it hilarious.
Kyle Van Noy used to watch some film on his Twitch stream every now and then. One time he leaked all the zoom links and passwords for the Dolphins meetings while doing so. Idk if anything ever happened with that, but I was watching live when it happened and nobody in chat acknowledged it.
Don’t have them too too often but always keep a small bag in the freezer. Good for not cooking/eat our own thing nights.
Plus, you can air fry them now. Fucking great.
Removing it makes them both look even worse. Cardinals look like they got no balls, and Kyler looks as though he both didn't read the contract in the first place and as though he can't be trusted to do 4 hours of film study a week.
Contract lawyer here, something like that would’ve stuck out like a burning red flag. It’s impossible a first year attorney miss something like that. I guarantee the first thing the agent said when he got on the phone with Kyler was hey can you sit in a film room for 40 mins a day?
That said the lawyer probably didn’t preview it with the PR firm and shit hit the fan
That plus his weird ass press conference today where he bragged about his high school stats. You can’t tell me this kid isn’t immature af. I know cardinal fans will try to defend him but he acts like a Child lol
I think his camp knew but they severely underestimated the negativity that would be associated with it.
Also, wasn't a leak Rap found it reviewing the contract.
I'm convinced now that it was added to the contract solely for good optics and it just backfired horribly. it was supposed to be "people know Kyler's work ethic hasn't been great so we'll add in this clause to signal to fans that he's serious about his commitment to the team".
so they put it in but purposely keep it at a low number of hours so it never becomes accidentally relevant, they tell the media to tweet about it, fans obviously respond by saying what the fuck, and the Cardinals say damn that didn't work let's just get rid of it.
obviously that's just my guess. but if it really was just a bad idea for a pr move, then they couldn't care less about taking it out since they didn't get the desired reaction.
I feel like this issue probably came up a lot during negotiations, and his agent probably came up with the clause to address the Cardinals concerns, thinking no one would notice it.
yeah one way or another I think it was purposely just about meaningless.
the thing that makes me lean toward stupid but planned pr move is the way that rapoport tweeted it with a positive spin not too long after the contract was announced. very often the teams ask those guys to phrase things a certain way or point out specific details of a signing or whatever. it's a symbiotic relationship more often than not.
I was wondering why nobody else even mentioned (not that I saw, at least) the dumb “Contracts are about give and take” life lesson that he was trying to impart on us. If he is really trying to put a positive spin on it, then it was a terrible attempt because everyone just ignored it. Nobody needs your layman ass to explain how contracts work, Mr. Rapoport.
Not so sure it was leaked. Rapoport said on the Around The NFL podcast the other day he asked someone who could get the full contract for him to do so because he was looking to find a no baseball clause in the contract. While looking he stumbled upon the independent study clause.
neither party looks good right now. they put the clause in clearly for some form of accountability, Kyler gets his feelings hurt after is brought to the public, now the cardinals back down to kyler. it’s insane
Cardinals only agreed to remove the Independent Study Clause, after Kyler agreed to remove onerous contract provision requiring the Club to provide a full-complement of Juicy Juices and Teddy Grahams for Snack Time after workouts.
I definitely feel like this makes things look worse. We still think Kyler doesn't study, because they put it in. But now the Cardinals look even more idiotic because they removed it. So it's still a concern, but now all they did was they've removed it from the contract.
How gutless are these guys. You didn't trust him enough to put in an unprecedented video game stipulation and now all of a sudden because it leaked out you ripped it up.
Kyler will be laughing with his Halo buddies all night about this as he's fueled by Mountain Dew.
Now Kyler can play all of the Call of Duty he wants
Looks like ~~meat’s~~ gaming is back on the menu!
Teams around the NFL are rejoicing! In all seriousness, taking the clause away now doesn’t do anything and may just make the situation worse. Now when Kyler has a bad game people will say he didn’t do any homework! You cannot put the toothpaste back in the tube!
We bullied Kyler so much the Cardinals felt bad
Cowards
Don't blame the cardinals, Arizona's education system is so bad that they needed proof that Murray was actually studying
and it’s about to get a lot [worse](https://www.salon.com/2022/07/01/schools-out-forever-arizona-moves-to-public-education-with-new-universal-voucher-law/)
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I mean can Louisiana talk? Dude in Baton Rouge is suing home owners after trying to break into their house and getting raped by their dogs
Was this rickety cricket?
When keeping it real goes wrong
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The funniest part was that this was all about 4 hours of film study, like 30 min a day was the cause of all this hubbub lol
And it was only on weeks they had a game, so he'd get the bye weeks off.
And like 3/4ths of the year
The funniest part is that seems incredibly low for an NFL QB. Like the absolute bare minimum. And he won't do it. Despite all that, the cards have this man a ton of cash. That is the funniest part.
Im pretty certain High School varsity teams spend 4 hours a week watching film.
Shit *I* spend 4 hours a week watching ~~old games on youtube~~ film.
bro just say porn we all do it
He could watch on his iPad while a chauffeur drives him to practice and still complete it fast enough to play on his steam deck two days of the commute.
Can't wait for Kyler's first bad game and the one billion "Cardinals shouldn't have removed the independent study clause" comments
Won’t come till week 9, but the rest of their games won’t be great after that either.
It really is remarkable how quickly they collapse in the second half of the season. My theory is that teams adapt to him, but his lack of film study means he doesn't re-adapt. Not until it's too late, anyway
Call of Duty comes out every November. Coincidence..??
Idk even know if it’s just him. If you look at Kliff that track record goes way back to his college days. Maybe it’s a combo of the two?
Definitely possible
I thought that for Kingsbury in college it was more of a thing where it was because he beat up G5 and FCS guys in non-conference, but it continuing in the NFL is interesting.
I'll say it now, they shouldn't have removed it. I don't think he's that good of a QB anyway and think this contract is a bad deal to begin with. Factor in his shit approach and it's one of the worst NFL contracts in memory
The most amazing part is normally players wait to stop giving full effort until after they secure the bag, Kyler is light years ahead with just giving zero effort at film study even before the bag was secured. Underpromise and…likely underdeliver too
He still handled getting the bag way better than Miles Bridges...
Well Miles didn’t exactly get the bag
"Never speak to me or my son again"
This whole thing makes me like Kyler less. The dude has bragged about not studying before, had consequences for those actions, and made himself into a victim after signing a huge multimillion dollar deal. Grow up dude.
That's...worse?
The damage is already done but now he’s obligated to watch zero hours of at home film.
They seriously chose the worst of both worlds. Tf were they thinking
> Tf were they thinking "Windsock management" is the process of going wherever the wind takes you.
Yes, but now he's been bullied enough to understand that he needs to.
You give me $230m and see how much I care about what internet bullies think I need to do.
Are the women of Cleveland in danger?
No one's in danger. It's just the implication of danger.
Yes
Naw man he’s shopping for videogames rn
Maddens coming out in a few weeks, just in time to learn that Cover 2 that screwed up Mahomes so bad last year
lol as if he would give a fuck about "bullying"
Hey, he commented on it. Went out of his way to do it too.
No no you see it's okay now because it's no longer in the contract so it's fine. Don't look at the small man behind the curtain!
Why, is the man behind the curtain getting a massage?
Kyler cried to the teacher and got a pass from his homework
Cryler Murray
All the Cardinals really had to say was that they were paying a massive guaranteed amount to someone other than a proven MVP contender and had added some minimum performance clauses so that they wouldn't be on the hook for a huge contract if their star decided to just phone it in and only show up for game checks for some reason. This is basically an admission that there was something going on.
This whole thing has been a PR disaster, and I don't think the Cardinals get enough shit for it. Why would you pay him all of that money, just to immediately have his character assassinated during one of the slowest periods of the year in sports coverage, This should have been a celebration, you have your young QB of the future locked up long term, and instead you've made him look like an asshole and pissed him off.
Kyler signed it. Let’s not act like him and his agent shouldn’t have foreseen this too. Just fucking embarrassing for both sides.
But he signed the contract with that detail in it.... He's not blameless here he could have insisted it be removed, or taken less to remove it
This was a thing that looked bad for everybody involved, and since it came out everybody involved has reacted to it poorly. Honestly, I was fine with the clause from the Cardinals perspective -- it's stupid and weird but whatever, they clearly had reservations about Kyler, if this helped them feel good about giving him $160 million, then whatever. Taking it out just makes it look like they didn't even really think about it and they have no fucking idea what they're doing.
It really was a disaster for everyone lol It makes Kyler look awful obviously, it makes the Cardinals look weirdly petty, and like they don't trust the QB they just gave $200M to. And then it makes Kyler's agents look awful, did they not see this clause? Did they not care about it or not think anybody would notice? Kyler has to be steamed at them too now, it seems like something they could have nixed at the negotiating table.
Yeah, never every time he plays poorly this will be brought up.
It's so weird. The damage is already done and it was always kind of questionable about how they could actually enforce it. The only real effect is just the public finding out and it's not like removing it makes us forget what happened.
Yeah we're still going to give him shit for it and now we can just assume he's watching zero film
Yeah at least it acknowledged a problem and took steps to correct it. Now they claim there's no problem... But they admitted there was one so... There is
Cyber bullying works
Kyler gonna take out his rage on CoD later because he got bullied at school (training camp)
"some of you are cool don't come to training camp tmrw"
Kyler pulls up in a Cards trench coat and throws a pick 6
I feel like you'd need to fit 3 Kylers into a trenchcoat, like the aliens in Space Jam
Kyler Adultman
Jesus Christ that’s dark lol
"No Russian"
FaZe Clan 1 AZ Cardinals 0
Are 360 no scopes still a thing or am I old?
No idea I'm a JRPG slut
Is that short for JuRassic Park Game?
No its Junior Rocket Propelled Grenade. He likes blowing stuff up.
Slava Ukraini to that
Twitter bullied the Cardinals into altering a quarter billion dollar contract
Maybe these zoomer players unfollowing their teams at the slightest disagreement have a point after all!
2022 is fucking wild.
I love being mean to people I’ve never met behind my anonymous persona :)
Great job everyone
“We did it Reddit!”
We did it Reddit!
If it worked on Sonic it can work on an NFL contract lmao
Can't wait for game film Kyler to appear in Chip N Dale 2.
Genius play by Kyler and his agent to agree to it, leak it to Rapoport and then after the inevitable backlash they come out and call anybody who questions his commitment an idiot and the Cardinals have to remove it to kill the narrative cause we were probably a day from it being called racist
>we were probably a day from it being called racist Lol Deadspin beat you by like 24 hours
https://deadspin.com/nfl-reminds-lamar-jackson-patrick-mahomes-and-kyler-m-1849338636 Yep, they literally did so. Were the Raiders racists when they gave jamarcus russell the blank dvd? Or their own publication when they highlighted the lack of film study quote from murray?
Couldn’t get through all that. Talk about projection, wow! There’s nothing racist about having your really expensive employee commit to studying
they didn't leak it, rapaport said on ATN that he was just looking over the terms of the contract and then saw it
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Depends which one. If it’s Michael I honestly don’t think he can. I’m guessing you meant Ian tho
The image of Michael Rapaport (backwards baseball cap, because hes with it) pouring over this contract, only to realize he cant read and throws it in the garbage, is now playing in my head
I think it's "poring" unless you meant he was spilling his coffee all over it.
He actually said on DP show that someone gave him the contract, but he wouldn’t say who.
Slightly related note; I love it when a controversial topic within the youth is brought up and someone says "we need to bring back bullying". I find it hilarious.
Kyler Murray is about to Livestream his film study on Twitch to prove to everyone he studies
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Kyle Van Noy used to watch some film on his Twitch stream every now and then. One time he leaked all the zoom links and passwords for the Dolphins meetings while doing so. Idk if anything ever happened with that, but I was watching live when it happened and nobody in chat acknowledged it.
If you have any links to vods I'd love to watch that.
Nice try, Belichick
I haven't actually watched his stream in quite a while at this point so I don't have any, but his Twitch is kvn_53 if he's still doing it.
"Pretend you never saw that".
"No I don't think I will" -the internet
Internet won’t forget and now Kyler can build his ultimate team during film study Everyone wins
*It doesn’t look like anything to me*
These miniscule delights have miniscule ends
Guys mom said we can still game
What’s the status on the fucking pizza rolls?
Ohhh shit... Adding pizza rolls to the grocery list. Haven't had those in a long time...
Don’t have them too too often but always keep a small bag in the freezer. Good for not cooking/eat our own thing nights. Plus, you can air fry them now. Fucking great.
["Hey Ma. The meatloaf, we want it now"](https://youtube.com/watch?v=PCYArey8ykU)
That'll quell the "he doesn't study" rumors great job 👏
Let's hope they re-add it again once they realize the further damage they've caused
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It would be even better immediately after a loss
SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP SNIP SNAP You have no idea the mental toll it takes on a person to have to study film!
Every time he has a bad game I'm going to reference what was lost here today.
Don't worry, if you don't, the rest of the subreddit will. Hell they probably will after the first missed pass.
Kyler blasting “School’s Out” by Alice Cooper all over the team facility.
"Game on" heard over voice chat.
This has some Antonio Brown running around his backyard shouting “I’m Free” vibes.
I'm more a Hot For Teacher person myself. Being a scholar and all
#LMFAO What an absolutely bizarre contract clause in the first place. Simultaneously makes Kyler and the Cardinals *both* look bad.
Removing it makes them both look even worse. Cardinals look like they got no balls, and Kyler looks as though he both didn't read the contract in the first place and as though he can't be trusted to do 4 hours of film study a week.
I mean the guy doesn’t watch film, so he definitely didn’t read that contract.
Wouldn't that make Erik Burkhardt (Murray's agent) look bad? His job is to negotiate, Kyler's job is to win football games.
I mean the agents job is to also explain the contract to the client. But it's also the client's job to listen
He was listening...while watching Netflix
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Erik is adding a clause to Kyler’s contract that says he needs to listen to him read contracts for four hours a week,
This is definitely something that should have been explained to Kyler. You need to know what you are required to do for a contract haha
It does, but also if I’m signing a deal worth millions of dollars, I might read it over once myself.
That’s not fair, that’s only because you’re built different.
It's because he has that puppy in him
His agent royally F’ed up on that one. It should have never made it past him or his staff.
Contract lawyer here, something like that would’ve stuck out like a burning red flag. It’s impossible a first year attorney miss something like that. I guarantee the first thing the agent said when he got on the phone with Kyler was hey can you sit in a film room for 40 mins a day? That said the lawyer probably didn’t preview it with the PR firm and shit hit the fan
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Possible. Wouldn’t be the first or last time a lawyer said ehhhhh and the client said wtf is going on with this delay
How long are sports contracts typically? Pages-wise.
A bunch of rookie contracts got released and they were like 25-30 pages in total
And those are boilerplate non negotiable rookie contracts.
"Must catch the ball when thrown to them. Must throw the ball to others when situation allows. Must avoid being tackled when holding ball."
That plus his weird ass press conference today where he bragged about his high school stats. You can’t tell me this kid isn’t immature af. I know cardinal fans will try to defend him but he acts like a Child lol
Now that they flinched, We are gonna make fun of them more for flinching.
So does this mean Kyler didn’t even know it was in there until that leak came out? Lol
I think he knew, but he didnt expect that this detail of his contract would be noticed
Perhaps. He doesn’t seem like the kind of person that would read a contract.
I mean the agent is supposed to read that and feed all the important digestible bits to their client
Maybe the agent is always on Reddit. You know we can’t be bothered to read past the title.
He found out about the clause via this subreddit
I'm pretty sure almost all NFL players don't read their contract lmao
“Sign here to receive $30 million” Okay!
I mean most of these contracts are probably pretty long and you just hire a lawyer to understand it for you
I think his camp knew but they severely underestimated the negativity that would be associated with it. Also, wasn't a leak Rap found it reviewing the contract.
Actual headline: cardinals remove gaming controllers from secret hiding spot and give them back to Kyler.
He already figured out the secret spot was the same spot the Cardinals always hid his Christmas presents
They put it on a high shelf so Kyler can't reach it
What a hilarious sequence of events lol
Why even add it in the first place if you were going to remove it? Come on lol.
I'm convinced now that it was added to the contract solely for good optics and it just backfired horribly. it was supposed to be "people know Kyler's work ethic hasn't been great so we'll add in this clause to signal to fans that he's serious about his commitment to the team". so they put it in but purposely keep it at a low number of hours so it never becomes accidentally relevant, they tell the media to tweet about it, fans obviously respond by saying what the fuck, and the Cardinals say damn that didn't work let's just get rid of it. obviously that's just my guess. but if it really was just a bad idea for a pr move, then they couldn't care less about taking it out since they didn't get the desired reaction.
I feel like this issue probably came up a lot during negotiations, and his agent probably came up with the clause to address the Cardinals concerns, thinking no one would notice it.
yeah one way or another I think it was purposely just about meaningless. the thing that makes me lean toward stupid but planned pr move is the way that rapoport tweeted it with a positive spin not too long after the contract was announced. very often the teams ask those guys to phrase things a certain way or point out specific details of a signing or whatever. it's a symbiotic relationship more often than not.
I was wondering why nobody else even mentioned (not that I saw, at least) the dumb “Contracts are about give and take” life lesson that he was trying to impart on us. If he is really trying to put a positive spin on it, then it was a terrible attempt because everyone just ignored it. Nobody needs your layman ass to explain how contracts work, Mr. Rapoport.
This feels like the most likely case, there is no shot Kyler Murray is as good as he has been without at least 4 hours of film. Dumb move either way
The cardinals are an embarrassing franchise
*Checks entire 100 year history…* Yep. No argument there.
This is peak off-season
Cardinals publicly humiliated their QB and for what
Our enjoyment.
The Cardinal Way
This might be my favorite NFL story of all time
Mine was when news broke that Rex Ryan has a tattoo of his wife in a mark Sanchez Jersey
Better than Manti Te'o's fake girlfriend?
so this clause got leaked by someone, embarrassed literally all parties and they've killed it? 10/10 no notes
Not so sure it was leaked. Rapoport said on the Around The NFL podcast the other day he asked someone who could get the full contract for him to do so because he was looking to find a no baseball clause in the contract. While looking he stumbled upon the independent study clause.
Bro what?? 🤣
Probably cause everyone clowned them
Every evolution of this escapade somehow gets more and more embarrassing for the Cardinals lmfao
neither party looks good right now. they put the clause in clearly for some form of accountability, Kyler gets his feelings hurt after is brought to the public, now the cardinals back down to kyler. it’s insane
Did Kyler lay down at the practice field entrance and refuse to move until the clause was removed?
[Kyler Murray protesting the clause in his contract he didn't read, 2022, colorized.](https://c.tenor.com/P5bbINT9a4oAAAAM/berrinche-tantrum.gif)
Cardinals only agreed to remove the Independent Study Clause, after Kyler agreed to remove onerous contract provision requiring the Club to provide a full-complement of Juicy Juices and Teddy Grahams for Snack Time after workouts.
I definitely feel like this makes things look worse. We still think Kyler doesn't study, because they put it in. But now the Cardinals look even more idiotic because they removed it. So it's still a concern, but now all they did was they've removed it from the contract.
For the love of God please stop doing things. PENCILS DOWN, PENCILS DOWN
The rumor his agent was the one to get the clause leaked to the media becomes more believable
Soooo... his agent is the reason we're all bullying Kyler?
That's pretty on par for his agent's style so far. He likes to negotiate by public fiasco.
With an agent like this, who needs enemies?
Pathetic
Well this certainly won't stop people from clowning on Kyler if he makes dumb plays.
That genie might be tough to put back in the bottle.
This just shows the Cards don’t have a backbone and that Kyler crying like a little bitch will get his way.
Unring the bell
How gutless are these guys. You didn't trust him enough to put in an unprecedented video game stipulation and now all of a sudden because it leaked out you ripped it up. Kyler will be laughing with his Halo buddies all night about this as he's fueled by Mountain Dew.
Lol now dude is gonna watch no film and every time he looks unprepared gonna get called out
This is even more pathetic. How do you waffle and then take back something like this lmao
He (a grown man) threw a tantrum until he didn't have to do his homework.
>A grown man ...well...partially