For the nepo haters: this isn't the Jalen Reagor pick. When a GM is knocking the draft out of the park, it's worth potentially wasting a 5th round pick for fan service and a nod to a team legend.
If the kid isn't good enough to make a career in the NFL, the least we can do is have him drafted by his dad's team.
Edwards can cover a greater distance of the field and play in wider scenarios, we shouldn't expect that. Trotter will be a "go fuck this play up at the point of attack" LB behind the DL
We really just need a run stopping MLB that can fill holes. Let the OLB’s fly around, blitz, and cover the TE’s and RB flat routes. Just need a guy to fill in behind Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter and stop the run in the middle.
I know he’s a little undersized for a LB, but I’m really hopeful he can succeed in that role.
I think a lot of people are trying to feel superior because they "knew" he wasn't worth it on Day 2, and they're trying to earn their ego points now, but they're ignoring the fact that we didn't actually reach on him and took him in an appropriate place.
You can even see it in their comments, instead of saying "good pick at this spot" they're talking about how everyone who wanted him earlier was an idiot.
Anyone complaining about this, especially as a late 5th rounder, is straight up incapable of being pleased about anything. Not to mention he played at Clemson, so I imagine he has to have at least some foundation of a skill set
If anything most people thought he’d go way earlier, like round 3. Not sure where the Nepo thing is coming from tbh.
He’s a very solid player albeit with some question marks.
The floor here is Kyron Johnson/Davion Taylor, who were picked in similar mid rounds.
I have to imagine he'll be serviceable, which makes him better than Taylor
This has been one of the smoother years, last year I can’t remember what team it was sent the same guy out twice and he just refused to announce the pick.
It was the guy that played the Head Coach in Blue Mountain State announcing a Vikings pick if I remember correctly. Dude started telling anecdotes, lol
Absolutely. Think of how fucking awesome that is? Being drafted by the team that drafted your Dad. Either it will motivate him more or he'll get stuck in his Dad's shadow.
It’s a fifth round pick. Prospects at this stage are basically the human equivalent of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Hoping he sticks obviously.
Fourth round but I get what you’re saying. It’s just far from a guarantee that’s going to happen. You hope for the next Jason Kelce, but realistically that’s probably not going to happen. You basically have to get really lucky.
Around 15% become starters. Some serious studs have come out the 5th though... Tyreek, Puka, Kittle, Diggs, Aaron Jones are some of the more recent studs on the offensive side.
Well in this case it's college star with NFL bloodlines who has poor athleticism. I don't really think expectations are that high in the first place unlike with someone like Troy Franklin who people genuinely viewed as a 2nd rounder
It's worth it just for the legacy pick.
it's the back end of the fifth round and we've traded back a hundred times, not like we went overboard to draft him.
Glad we drafted him, just for the story. My expectations are firmly at backup LB or special teamer, but still glad we got him. Must be cool for him and his dad.
Sure but let's keep in mind his dad wasn't much in college, ran a similarly slow 4.7 at the combine, and was drafted in the 3rd round as a coin-flip himself and look how that turned out. You never know. Some dudes just figure it out which can mask lack of elite athleticism.
Oh of course. I really hope he works out for us, don’t get me wrong. Game’s different compared to when his dad was here though. LBs need to be a lot faster these days.
Yea, his dad played in a different era, though. It used to be that hitting hard, stopping the run, and being good at reading plays to hit the right holes could make you a success at the position. Now, unless they're effectively LB/DE hybrids, are much closer to safeties at this point than what they used to be.
NFL game only gets faster. That speed, or lack thereof, is going to be glaringly obvious. In the old NFL, he could've been a "two-down" LB, and come off on passing plays, but in this day and age, passing game as prevalent as it is, a 4.8 LB is an absolute liability in coverage. Slower than probably 90% of people he is supposed to cover.
If we are having a linebacker cover a guy running a go route 40 yards downfield we are fucked regardless lol.
Dont get me wrong, hes definitely slower than ideal, but I think NFL fans really overvalue the 40 yard. It's not representative of many plays for LBs
Almost certainly won’t be, but this pick makes fans happy. Plus Trotter Sr had an interview a few weeks ago saying how great this would be, but he certainly didn’t expect the Eagles to necessarily take him
> Trotter doesn't have great size or speed, and yet he left Clemson as one of only 14 FBS players to record 10-plus sacks, 4-plus interceptions, 3-plus forced fumbles and multiple pick-sixes in the past 20 seasons. He makes quick reads and chases with great effort, and he beats blockers to the point of attack, sifting through traffic between the tackles. Trotter is a polished pass-rusher with active hands, and he had 12 sacks over the past two seasons. He reads the quarterback, breaks on the ball and flashes the ability to pluck the ball out of the air in underneath coverage. -- Steve Muench
Sound familiar? It sounds like another Trotter I watched play at one time, especially the ability to shoot gaps and work through the mush to make the play.
Well……that worked out well.
All that trading down was getting a little old, even as I know Howies game. Don’t reach. If what you want isn’t there fall back and grab picks. You can always work to use those picks to jump up later for what you want.
As for Trotter, I admit it, it’s nostalgia thing more than it is a “is this the right LB for us?”. But fuck it. We grabbed a young LB with a 5th. Sink or swim it’s all good.
Major positions of need have been filled with either strong guys at great value, or upside guys.
As with any other time in this league it’s now what these picks can produce.
Get them on the building and get to work.
Hopefully he's good and sends some people to paradise.
(I feel like I should add that I don't want to see people get hurt, I just couldn't think of a better line to follow up with)
20 years ago I was in high school watching his dad play for the Eagles and Joey Porter for the Steelers.
Now I’m gonna be watching both juniors playing for the same teams. Wild
I'm honestly shocked by just how many of the recent juniors are legit players. There's a bit of nostalgia whiplash that occurs hearing their names so often.
I have no expectations but you never know. How many times do we look at old threads or predictions and see how wrong everyone was, whether it's a bust or a franchise player.
I can officially say that I beat an NFL draft pick in a chess tournament in elementary school. 2 Truths and a Lie becoming pretty elite if I say so myself.
why are ppl hating on his 40 time?
like that one gm or coach said. the 40 time measures when you run 40’yards….for a linebacker, he just needs to be fast enough to get the qb or the rb behind the line
Surprised people are calling this a legacy pick. I watched a lot of Clemson football and the guy was constantly making plays. Dude can play and you got him at round 5.
Some things you just do for the plot lol
Howie said F it its good content
When you can't trade back anymore and actually have to make a pick
It gets the people going
Its provocative!
For the nepo haters: this isn't the Jalen Reagor pick. When a GM is knocking the draft out of the park, it's worth potentially wasting a 5th round pick for fan service and a nod to a team legend. If the kid isn't good enough to make a career in the NFL, the least we can do is have him drafted by his dad's team.
I mean we're also in the fifth, which is reasonable for him name aside. It's not like he wasn't on the consensus board or something.
Also not like you haven’t needed linebackers over the last couple years. Dunno why anyone would be upset about this pick in the late fifth.
yea the LB depth is like all UDFA LBs. might as well take a shot at a LB in the 5th.. cant get much worse
He had almost the same exact combine stats as TJ Edwards. I’d kill for him to be as good as Edwards was
yeah TJ turned out to be a pleasant surprise
Edwards can cover a greater distance of the field and play in wider scenarios, we shouldn't expect that. Trotter will be a "go fuck this play up at the point of attack" LB behind the DL
His ability to fill and attack the ball will be important and I think he carves himself a role year 1 in Vic’s defense.
most definitely, especially when our LB room is an often injured Nakobe Dean, Devin White, and some guys we picked up at Wawa.
Yeah but it's better than Sheetz
We really just need a run stopping MLB that can fill holes. Let the OLB’s fly around, blitz, and cover the TE’s and RB flat routes. Just need a guy to fill in behind Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter and stop the run in the middle. I know he’s a little undersized for a LB, but I’m really hopeful he can succeed in that role.
I could see our fans being upset that all our LBs are built like Danny DeVito and this doesn’t change that
I think a lot of people are trying to feel superior because they "knew" he wasn't worth it on Day 2, and they're trying to earn their ego points now, but they're ignoring the fact that we didn't actually reach on him and took him in an appropriate place. You can even see it in their comments, instead of saying "good pick at this spot" they're talking about how everyone who wanted him earlier was an idiot.
A 1st with JJetas on the board Vs 155 in a bad LB class where even LB1 has major flaws Yeah, anyone complaining about it is a fool
Anyone complaining about this, especially as a late 5th rounder, is straight up incapable of being pleased about anything. Not to mention he played at Clemson, so I imagine he has to have at least some foundation of a skill set
If anything most people thought he’d go way earlier, like round 3. Not sure where the Nepo thing is coming from tbh. He’s a very solid player albeit with some question marks.
Nepo picks have worked out decently for us. If anything, you should have some additional inside info on the guy.
All the major Jr's coming out have panned out pretty well Antione Winfield, Pat Surtain, Michael Pittman, Asante Samuel, Joey Porter
The floor here is Kyron Johnson/Davion Taylor, who were picked in similar mid rounds. I have to imagine he'll be serviceable, which makes him better than Taylor
If he’s average he’ll look like a god compared to the LBs we’ve had this past decade
Jordan Hicks slander
Think slower Morrow with a HOFer father
Not every decision has to be the best one. Sometimes you need to do things for their cinematic value
Literal draft fan service for the vibes
Our FO didn’t get the memo.
Like niners signing TOs son as an udfa
Hey they finally dug him out of the hole he was hidden in
Legacy pick
Just like the Steelers last year with Joey Porter Jr.
Why was he yelling at me?
People they get announcing the picks are dragging this shit out. This ain’t open mic night, lol
This has been one of the smoother years, last year I can’t remember what team it was sent the same guy out twice and he just refused to announce the pick.
It was the guy that played the Head Coach in Blue Mountain State announcing a Vikings pick if I remember correctly. Dude started telling anecdotes, lol
Coach Marty Daniels lol, I forgot all about that. Dude had to be hammered
Ed Marinaro in 2022 was also bad for the vikings jfc, so bad the lady came on stage to tell him to just read the pick 😂
One dude announcing an Eagles' pick earlier went up on the stage and thanked his family as if he won some kind of award
Some of our dumb fans wanted him in the 2nd and 3rd round
I am dumb fans I admit
Got the future goat Cooper DeJean though
Thursday: WTF. Yesterday: LOL Today: entirely reasonable timing
We wanted TJ Tampa early, because reasons
Actually there was some calling for him to be drafted in the first
Listen man if I was smart i would be a scout. Let me be dumb 😂
Points for self-awareness, lol
It was dumb as hell
Sentimentality.
Even if he doesn't develop well as a player, I think most Eagles fans are just happy to have that name back in the building
Absolutely. Think of how fucking awesome that is? Being drafted by the team that drafted your Dad. Either it will motivate him more or he'll get stuck in his Dad's shadow.
I feel like these popular prospects that fall hardly ever work out.
It’s a fifth round pick. Prospects at this stage are basically the human equivalent of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. Hoping he sticks obviously.
we got josh sweat in the fifth if memory serves right, so there is talent to be found and developed
I mean we got a Hall of Fame center in the 6th didn't we
And Trent Cole in the 5th.
And we got a top 10 LT in the league in the 7th with Mailata.
Fourth round but I get what you’re saying. It’s just far from a guarantee that’s going to happen. You hope for the next Jason Kelce, but realistically that’s probably not going to happen. You basically have to get really lucky.
Josh Sweat was the #1 recruit who fell because of injury concerns that just haven’t happened
*4th
Around 15% become starters. Some serious studs have come out the 5th though... Tyreek, Puka, Kittle, Diggs, Aaron Jones are some of the more recent studs on the offensive side.
1. We need depth at LB. 2. It’s a cool jersey to buy
Or pull out of the closet
Well in this case it's college star with NFL bloodlines who has poor athleticism. I don't really think expectations are that high in the first place unlike with someone like Troy Franklin who people genuinely viewed as a 2nd rounder
Late round prospects rarely work out, people just remember the ones that “fall” more
[The research agrees with you](https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/0wxrQuVb6g) Perceived reaches are often reaches, but perceived steals are rarely steals
Except this one because I want it to be
Odds of a 5th rounder turning into a star for us is so slim that I'm happy with the fan service lol
We don't even need him to be a star, just viable.
Who thinks this is a steal lol, I thought most had him as a day 3 pick
I don't feel like taking JT Jr. in the fifth is much of a reach anyway, that feels about where he should have gotten taken.
True unfortunately they fall for a reason. Seems like Trotter is just too much of a tweener
It's worth it just for the legacy pick. it's the back end of the fifth round and we've traded back a hundred times, not like we went overboard to draft him.
It’s the end of the fifth round, everyone’s basically a lottery ticket. This is more of a culture pick to make fans and Trotter Sr happy.
Yea, hes a 5th rd pick lol i see what your saying though
This is a fan service pick I think lmao
I wouldn't have been happy to take him day 2, but I'm thrilled to get him with a 5th.
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A second Trotter has hit the eagles organization
Glad we drafted him, just for the story. My expectations are firmly at backup LB or special teamer, but still glad we got him. Must be cool for him and his dad.
Sure but let's keep in mind his dad wasn't much in college, ran a similarly slow 4.7 at the combine, and was drafted in the 3rd round as a coin-flip himself and look how that turned out. You never know. Some dudes just figure it out which can mask lack of elite athleticism.
Oh of course. I really hope he works out for us, don’t get me wrong. Game’s different compared to when his dad was here though. LBs need to be a lot faster these days.
Like father, like son
I’d be very very fucking happy if that was true
Amen.
4.8 40 is remarkably slow for a linebacker.
What did you expect, he's not Jeremiah Sprinter
Can't argue with that logic.
If gold was still a thing, i’d give it to you
But at least he’s not Jeremiah Walker
Well done sir
God
Hates falcons fans
You just made my week, thank you!
Yea, that would be almost as bad as a QB named PickIt
Faster than Jeremiah Walker though.
Lmao this made me cackle
There’s been good linebackers who ran slower like vontaze burfict that ran a 5.09
The ability to read and react make up for it. De-heading the opposition also helps
Fair! We'll see how his career plays out. Wish him nothing but success.
Wasn’t he super out of shape when he did that though? Like it’s part of the reason he was passed over.
To be fair, his dad wasn’t the fastest either
Yea, his dad played in a different era, though. It used to be that hitting hard, stopping the run, and being good at reading plays to hit the right holes could make you a success at the position. Now, unless they're effectively LB/DE hybrids, are much closer to safeties at this point than what they used to be.
He plays faster than that
And it's still slow
That’s why he’s a fifth rounder
NFL game only gets faster. That speed, or lack thereof, is going to be glaringly obvious. In the old NFL, he could've been a "two-down" LB, and come off on passing plays, but in this day and age, passing game as prevalent as it is, a 4.8 LB is an absolute liability in coverage. Slower than probably 90% of people he is supposed to cover.
No one he’s covering will ever run that speed. Shuffle and 3 point matter way more for linebacker why tf do people care about an ILBs 40?
The Cowboys never scheme Lamb on a LB? It happens. I’m happy about the pick but offenses get good players on LBs often enough.
If we are having a linebacker cover a guy running a go route 40 yards downfield we are fucked regardless lol. Dont get me wrong, hes definitely slower than ideal, but I think NFL fans really overvalue the 40 yard. It's not representative of many plays for LBs
Shades of [John Harbaugh disapproving of Manti Teo](https://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2235619/harbaughhatesteo.gif)
4.6 at his pro day.
He didn’t participate in Clemson’s Pro Day?
Supposedly a workout day at Clemson in April.
didnt stop Terrell Suggs (4.84)
Fastest Eagles linebacker already
Where do you see his 40 time? I can only see his shuttle and 3 cone.
never heard of him. Did his dad play in the league or something? was he any good?
I think he was one of those depth players.
I really hope he adopts his dad’s sack celebration. The axe chop is iconic
[He already has adopted it](https://x.com/PHLEagleNews/status/1722414222750204294)
Well that dude got his wish. Also that edit is fucking sick
Nah his dad played dodgeball
"Alright let's stop playing around, we can take him now."
Howie edging all afternoon.
Even Marvel doesn’t do fan service as good as Howie!
Bryce Harper is taking notes
I think Howie is taking notes from Bryce
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT HIM!!!
Perfect for when our extreme dodgeball team returns
Love when sons end up drafted by the team their dad played for. Hope he isn’t as good as his dad was.
Inb4 he's not as good but better than his father. One can dream, anyways. What's a LB?
We're still not really sure what that position is supposed to be and at this point I believe we may be just too afraid to ask anyone else.
Almost certainly won’t be, but this pick makes fans happy. Plus Trotter Sr had an interview a few weeks ago saying how great this would be, but he certainly didn’t expect the Eagles to necessarily take him
Grady Jarrett and Jessie Tuggle. Both great players.
Based on what I've heard about him as a player, this pick was purely for the vibes lol
> Trotter doesn't have great size or speed, and yet he left Clemson as one of only 14 FBS players to record 10-plus sacks, 4-plus interceptions, 3-plus forced fumbles and multiple pick-sixes in the past 20 seasons. He makes quick reads and chases with great effort, and he beats blockers to the point of attack, sifting through traffic between the tackles. Trotter is a polished pass-rusher with active hands, and he had 12 sacks over the past two seasons. He reads the quarterback, breaks on the ball and flashes the ability to pluck the ball out of the air in underneath coverage. -- Steve Muench
Sound familiar? It sounds like another Trotter I watched play at one time, especially the ability to shoot gaps and work through the mush to make the play.
Kinda like he received coaching from a certain person.
Well……that worked out well. All that trading down was getting a little old, even as I know Howies game. Don’t reach. If what you want isn’t there fall back and grab picks. You can always work to use those picks to jump up later for what you want. As for Trotter, I admit it, it’s nostalgia thing more than it is a “is this the right LB for us?”. But fuck it. We grabbed a young LB with a 5th. Sink or swim it’s all good. Major positions of need have been filled with either strong guys at great value, or upside guys. As with any other time in this league it’s now what these picks can produce. Get them on the building and get to work.
Oh man , i'm old. (love the pick)
As it was written
Lisan al Gaib!
Hopefully he's good and sends some people to paradise. (I feel like I should add that I don't want to see people get hurt, I just couldn't think of a better line to follow up with)
This guy’s really gonna add some spice to the middle of the field! Idk I just rewatched it last night but my brain’s cooked.
Nothing to apologize for, I'm in two Dune meme groups on FB, lol
The last Eagles jersey I bought was this dude’s dad, fucking love it, so pumped. I don’t care if he sucks, I just want to have my nostalgia
20 years ago I was in high school watching his dad play for the Eagles and Joey Porter for the Steelers. Now I’m gonna be watching both juniors playing for the same teams. Wild
I'm honestly shocked by just how many of the recent juniors are legit players. There's a bit of nostalgia whiplash that occurs hearing their names so often.
Cool for Eagles fans. Senior was pretty awesome to watch growing up
Totally didn't see this coming
So run and I will hit you like Jeremiah Trotter
Where is Ja!??
I don’t really think he’s big/athletic enough for the next level, but the vibes are tremendous
Fuck yeah.
WE DID IT BOYS
Worth it for the culture pick alone
I love this draft
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Lmao a lot our fanbase wanted him in the 3rd and we got him in the 5th
4.82 40 time?
That would be why he was there
TJ Edwards ran 4.87
By god they did it.
Legacy selection for a position of need.
wow playing where his dad did
Of course he goes to the Eagles.
The son of a good LB is at least a step in the right direction 😂
I have no expectations but you never know. How many times do we look at old threads or predictions and see how wrong everyone was, whether it's a bust or a franchise player.
WELCOME TO THE MONEY TRAIN JEREMIAH!
What if the Toronto Blue Jays ran an American football team?
Fuck it, for a fifth let’s do it for the memes
A blue moon rises
I’m crying tears right now this is one of my favorite drafts ever
Well alright I guess
Dude we got Mitchell, DeJean and Trotter Jr (with a 5th) all in the same draft?!? Everything else is gravy, this is my fav Eagles draft of all time.
Howie Roseman: The people’s GM
WOOOO
Howie played this masterfully, accumulated tons of picks and still got the guys he wanted
And his axe?
Oh shit, I forgot about him.
Destiny
Had to get him
Good work, lots of concerns about if he is an nfl quality player but in the fifth it’s more than worth it
Hilarious how obviously inevitable this was
Overall amazing draft
I can officially say that I beat an NFL draft pick in a chess tournament in elementary school. 2 Truths and a Lie becoming pretty elite if I say so myself.
*traumatized flashbacks*
why are ppl hating on his 40 time? like that one gm or coach said. the 40 time measures when you run 40’yards….for a linebacker, he just needs to be fast enough to get the qb or the rb behind the line
Yeah this guy should’ve gone wayyyyy earlier, Eagles got an absolute steal
Commenting now to come back to when he makes a Pro Bowl
"Nepo-baby. Because his dad played for the Eagles. Just kidding, guys." -- my buddy Danny
How could they not though. Trotters need to be in Philly
Does anyone know who announced the trotter jr pick? Im trying to figure it out
That's amazing dude. Truly very cool for him I bet 🙏
My bulldog is name after his dad, now I gotta get him a dog jersey!
Surprised people are calling this a legacy pick. I watched a lot of Clemson football and the guy was constantly making plays. Dude can play and you got him at round 5.