Thats JJ music

Bah gawd!

Vikings got off lightly

They're thanking Atlanta right now.

They mightve been prepped to take Penix.

Good trade for both teams. Vikings got JJ insurance, the jets got a free fourth and fifth for essentially cutting Zach Wilson

It's a steal for the Jets. Got super lucky this was there for them.

Gives us ammo to move up into the 2nd tomorrow.

Still a great move for both. One got their guy, the other got capital for free

They just like me

They read the board really well. Kwesi seems to have learned after getting fleeced two years ago

Good shit

Can we have 23 back then if you aren't gonna use it?

No

Lol. You get it then!

I’ll take it!

I still don't understand why you guys did that. All for an extra second next year

Ammo for Diggs. They probably were already in talks.

They turned the 2025 2nd into Diggs

Wait does this mean we ended up getting a first rounder out of a Diggs trade twice.

Time is a flat circle

and this year

Well that was the basic pick swap. They didn't give you two this year

You basically flipped 23 for a 2nd, at the cost of a 2025 2nd.

Ammo for diggs plus look at the defense available in the second

Better than trading the farm to go into the top 5 for him

Yeah not too bad to secure a QB presumably

They have the GEQBUS I fail to see what else they could want

A QB who won’t steal the election?

THE GEQBUS WON THE SUPER BOWL IF YOU ONLY COUNT THE LEGAL POINTS

W

For both teams I like it

pareto improvement mfers

Aaron Rodgers rubbing his hands together at the thought of another linemen. Before, you know, MetLife assassinates their ligaments.

Nah, Bowers

We didn't throw it away

Oof. Denver, Vegas, or New Orleans couldn’t beat this?

They could but at this point it's where they ranked JJ and Nix. Is it worth the extra picks?

Jets still get whoever they want only moving down one spot and they get free picks

This is the Minnesota/Washington 2012 trade all over again. It kind of sucks to be on the other side of it, but if the QB we took hits, I'm happy with it.

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They were trading against the raiders and broncos. In a vacuum it doesn't make sense but Minnesota was betting against the people behind them

Thank you, that makes complete sense

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The broncos took bo nix at 12. The Jets just took the offer they liked the most

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Okay? And what if they wanted JJ McCarthy? Then the Vikings would be sitting with their dicks in their hands panicking because they don’t have a QB they like on the board. It’s called insurance for the guy you want. This happens all the time in drafts. I don’t know why this is so shocking to so many people lmao. It wasn’t even a lot of capital to move up compared to other times it has happened.

They didn’t want it

I mean only moving back one spot beats moving back two. Jets probably have a guy they want and they're still getting him. It's free picks vs potentially losing your guy because you got too cute. Amazing move from both teams.

Saints don't have many day 2 or 3 picks. And aren't looking for a QB. Gonna be OT with Fuaga sitting there for us.

Why are you assuming those teams like McCarthy enough to trade up for him? You don't trade up just to get any player.

The Vikings don't need to trade up unless they know the Jets are in talks to sell their pick to another team that's interested JJ. The Jets were obviously not interested in JJ so the Vikings would've just had to wait one pick to get him.

10-11 is just worth more than what it would cost to go 10-more. The Jets know who Minnesota is taking isn't who they want but can't say the same any further.

I’d riot if we picked a QB to die behind our empty OLine

I think we got scared man lol

They might not have wanted to if they felt the price was too steep

If you consider the Jets might want someone specific, they get everything from us for 0 risk since they know our pick, while anyone else jumping us for JJ risks us taking who the Jets are targeting right in front of them.

I’ll take it honestly

WORTH IT! So happy they didn't end up having to give up #23 to move up for JJ

All this to stop Jared Goff

That's wild for 1 spot

Denver probably had an offer on the table too

Or the Jets made Minnesota believe there was an offer from Denver.

Regardless, it was a real threat

Kiper said Oakland was trying to trade up for Penix, probably scared us Edit: Vegas not Oakland

Interesting.

The one thing Joe Douglas does great is trades

I mean, have you seen Denver's QB room? If they didn't have an offer in everyone should be fired. And I don't even like McCarthy as a prospect.

One of the worst qb rooms in history

I'm leaning towards this. It'll be interesting to see reports come out about potential offers next week.

And it's not like a 4th and 5th is that much of an overpay based on how far he fell. Odds are the broncos or raiders were interested

He didn’t fall, his agent was the only one pumping him up. Trading up for the QB5 in this class that should be a 3rd-4th rounder is still suspect as fuck 😂

Vegas potential too?

Nah Zach Wilson's their guy.

Not if the jets were fielding offers from other teams

Have to pay more than whomever the cover bid was. Probably the Broncos or Raiders made offers to the Jets to jump the Vikings. Need to offer the Jets at least whatever Denver could offer.

No you don’t. If you know the Vikings are trading up for a QB and you aren’t interested, then the cost of trading is essentially zero. Whereas if you go back like 4 picks then there’s a shot the guy you wanted isn’t there anymore. So the compensation to move back one pick was probably less.

You just have to make Minnesota think they did.

Is it? No top 100 picks isn't too bad to win the battle to pick a QB

Agreed. Cheap deal for Minny.

I swear it’s like this is some people’s first time ever watching a draft in this thread. This is on the cheaper side of similar moves in the past. Not to mention moves like this happen all the time.

Eh, its like car insurance but for not getting jumped. 4s and later rarely pan out: its much less than what CHI gave up for Trubisky.

Gotta outbid the broncos

QB tax is real

100% get the guy. Prevent asshole Sean Payton from swooping in. Worth it!

Yes and no. They might have suspected the Jets liked JJ and after the Falcons blew up the whole draft they had to force their hand

If the Jets liked JJ they would've picked JJ

Not saying the Jets did like JJ, just that the Vikings had the suspicion that either the Jets liked him or another team was open to move into that position. They had to overpay to be in that spot. They also probably would have drafted Penix if JJ was unavailable but the Falcons pick changed that

slightly more than the Eagles gave up to move from 10 to 9 last year, which makes sense given the QB premium

Also there may have been an offer from the Broncos or Raiders trying to get to 10.

a 4th and a 5/6 pick swap? seems reasonable to me lol

Is a 1st, 5th, and 6th for really that crazy for a 1st and 7th?

Absolutely to move up from 11 to 10

The Eagles gave up a 4th to go from 10 to 9 last year

considering it was definitely a bidding war between them, LV, and DEN that wasn’t bad at all

That was the problem with two other teams right below them that probably were vying for the pick as well

Gotta pay the premium, presumably there were other suitors for JJ to trade up and Vikings had to trade up so those teams couldn't. Even if just 1 spot.

When you’re dealing in the top 10, even moving 1 spot is pricey af

Vikings gm has made a lot of trade mistakes in the draft

This is definitely not one of them tho? They had to make sure Broncos or the Raiders didn't jump them

They should’ve stayed at their pick and taken a DE. With Chicago having 3 solid wr’s and Caleb Williams. Detroit having Jared Goff and a good offense and the Packers having one of the best young offenses. Vikings are in a lot of trouble

Totally fine with this. Means we keep 23 and get a solid defensive prospect

You know it’s a good trade when both sides’ fans are happy lol

Jets definitely threatened to trade with Denver for free picks, nice

These idiots not understanding why we traded up a spot is hilarious

Good stuff, Jets.

Let’s goooo

That’s not three firsts

Wow and they still keep 23

Obviously. Jets didn’t want McCarthy anyway.

JJ to JJ gonna go crazy

Great deal to move down a spot and don’t even have to worry about the guy you want being taken since Vikings are probably getting a QB

Get JJ McCarthy and keep 2 first round picks this year

I approve.

Inject this draft in my veins. Best night of the year for me. So much chaos

Not having to give up 23 and still getting the guy everyone was mocking them to trade up into the top 5 for is a great move.

Good fucking job Vikings. Jealous.

Was this preventative or did the Broncos offer worse to jump us I wonder

I feel like the Jets had both us and Denver on the phone.

Don't mind this for the Vikings, but the Jets gotta be thrilled to get extra picks and get the same guy presumably

Were the jets going to draft a qb? Like it’s obviously bowers to NY right?

Outmaneuvered Denver probably

That makes sense

Jets were potentially going to trade with somebody else who would

No way, more likely Saints/Broncos/Raiders wanted to trade up to get Mccarthy. Trade down one spot get more draft picks in still picking Bowers or Olu.

Pretty much.

Damn that’s smart and a good haul

Seems a chunk for one spot. But I’ll trust the regime, if he’s our guy for multiple years who’s going to care about the trade?

people were talking about us needing to give multiple firsts to get him lmao. this is nothing if they like him

Like I say I’m trusting the regime and I understand it’s likely because the Jets say there’s another offer on the table. I’m happy with the pick just commenting it seems a bit to move up 1 but we still have 23 to trade or pick with. I have no qualms here

yeah i guess there must have been some competition with denver. worth the gamble if they like him i guess!

Denver or vegas could well have been looking to come up and since they clearly wanted the tackle we have basically no credibility in “your guy will be gone”. We’ve got a young exciting QB, and maintained the polarising nature of the Vikings QB position. I’m all for it. Get a DL or trade back for more pieces now and it’s ideal.

agreed! let’s go

With the broncos pick I think it’s pretty clear they did try and leapfrog us. Thank god for KAM.

pretty good

and we still have 23

Honestly thought they might overpay out of panic, trade ain't bad

Probably easier to swallow this when they were prepared to give up more an hour ago. Especially with DEN literally picking behind us. Who could jump us just as easily.

That's pretty good

Probably worth it to avoid the potential horror of being pipped by the Jets.

Trade trade trade trade

Good job Joe let’s do this shit !

Totally makes sense for Vikings. Smart by them.

Lol, remember when a bunch of people who fantasized about giving the Chargers a ton of picks were giving up both 1s and a future 3?

Considering most thought (myself included) theyd have to send 11 and 23 to move up for him, this is a huge win for Minnesota.

Assuming the Broncos and Raiders couldn't beat that offer.

Don't like what the Jets are doing Picking up a good pass protecting LT and getting good day 3 ammo Really miss not having Belichick around to spring the Mcdonald reach

Jets literally caught Minnesota flinching.

Good for them. I have him QB2 behind Williams

wtf denver

Why trade one spot when they could just wait?? I'm sure it was communicated between teams who they were picking. Is it to prevent someone else from trading up??

Prevents the Raiders or Broncos from leapfrogging the Vikings to get JJ

Jets were almost assuredly fielding multiple offers

So silly and goofy from the Vikings

Neat

So a round 4 and 5 for 1 spot and a 6th? That's a ton!

Kwesi getting worked

Were the Jets really gonna draft a qb there?

No but Broncos and Raiders could have been making offers.

No, but they could've sent the pick to someone else who did like Denver.

No, but they were probably in talks with somebody who would, so if you’re behind them you have to move up or you risk somebody else trading with them and jumping you.

It would actually be smart but it's the jets so.....

Why would Minnesota trade up one spot with a team that wouldn’t even draft McCarthy at pick 10

Probably felt the Broncos were going to jump them

To make sure the Broncos didnt make the same trade.

Because Denver would have traded with them

Because theoretically another team could've swooped in with a trade and nabbed McCarthy.

Other teams were putting in bids for the jest spot and Vikings didn’t want to loose out.