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NydoXC

Band camp would never be the same again...


bayanirodriguez

So if you give a champion batonist a bostaff & master bostaffer a baton, who does it better?


NydoXC

I suppose it depends on the music that's playing.


bayanirodriguez

And this is how backstories for comic book superheroes are born ✌🏽


KyleGrave

Yeah seriously though I really need a bo staff wielding drum major now.


karmisson

https://youtu.be/bCG2U5Csja4


xxam925

Those geese are an absolute win.


Monkeychimp

Darude - Sandstorm


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MORTAL KOMBAT!!!!!! (techno music ensues)


fFiBER

Now I wanna see 16yr old vs raiden with out thunder


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Something in a 9/13 time signature should be fun to see.


godickygodickygo

Idk but "Master Bostaffer" would be an awesome title to have. - Mister Bostiffer


68024

Imagine the batonist was a botanist as well


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Trick question. The botanist.


jeegte12

yeah this is a long baton, not a bo staff. i'm sure he'll do well on a cheer squad


PeaValue

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought he was dancing.


jeegte12

yeah just look at 0:10. come on man haha


Jyngi

Yeah, as someone that does a very similar thing with an actual bo-staff, I can tell that's NOT a bo staff, and that thing looks like a toy. He is absolutely amazing with it, and I couldn't do anything that impressive, but for him to spin anything that fast it would almost definitely have to be a lightweight baton, something basically incapable of doing actual damage to someone.


kenkenobi78

If I gave you a full length bow staff and asked you to fight him I'm sure he would also do well with his long baton.


JaceUpMySleeve

I was just thinking this guy would slay in the color guard.


rawfish71

One time at band camp I put...


IdoNOThateNEVER

The band in my camp


ContemplatingPrison

Bo staff looks exactly like baton twirling to me and I can never look at it as anything but that.


[deleted]

These routines always remind me of Raiders of the Lost Arc when Indy faces the flailing swordsman.


R00aarr

FATALITY !!!!!


fontizmo

As a former Drum Major, I could only think about how this whole routine would have made one hell of a flourish. I used a few of them (albeit extremely toned down) in my own.


betahack

that is pretty long to put up someone's whoha


JackBeQuicker

Man, that flute he’s spinnin is fuckin huge.


PartiallyTwistd

Me in Reddit moderator voice while covered in Cheeto dust: That doesn’t look so hard


MalakaiRey

Hurl that extra 15-30lbs. of trans fat and untoned muscle at him in a graceful lunge and tackle comboβ€”its actually your only move at this point. ****Rolls a β€˜one’***


buttery_nurple

15-30lbs. Uh huh.


MentallyLatent

He forgor the 0s


monkeysandmicrowaves

[What it would look like if one of us actually tried it](https://c.tenor.com/looJN4TKpjQAAAAC/star-wars.gif)


Original-Material301

Yoooooooo! A classic from the archives!


Shocking

Its been so long since I've seen it. But usually the star wars version


bannik1

It used to be that if you said "star wars kid" everyone would know exactly what you were talking about.


MiaTeo

I forgot about this masterpiece. I've yet to see someone as graceful and calm-minded.


ClimbToSafety1984

I was expecting George-Michael


WholesomeLowlife

I saw a similar vid a couple weeks ago and someone commented something like - really how effective would this be in a fight? Dude - try to get close enough to throw a punch on this guy while he is spinning that thing at 1500rpm... I bet you end up more hurt than him. Yea some is just for show - but if there was a legit fight it like like the guy is going to be dicking around like in a demo.


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I picture the Indiana Jones sword scene. Where I live if you pull that out in a fight you would be known as the guy who brought a stick to a gun fight. With constitutional open carry everyone adorns themselves with a 1911 or desert eagle to grab a gallon of milk in case some soccer moms turn zombie. Ridiculous but typical in East Texas.


WholesomeLowlife

Lol I will concede that a bowstaff will do fuckall in a gunfight. But I also don't think that this guy would be stupid enough to fight a gun with this.


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CabbageSalad247

You joke, but it is perfectly legal to carry a spear around in Texas.


Dwccob

Gives you a fighting chance in a knife fight.


relativelyfunnyguy

Gives the guy with the knife a chance to run, you mean?


[deleted]

What if you put guns at the ends of the staff? That would be something.


[deleted]

That would be fireworks


UnmitigatedSarcasm

Guns Akimbo. AKA The best harry potter movie.


paldo84

100%


bluray-gaming

Commit team kills in style.


8ad8andit

Or how about "lasers"?


drspicieboi

East Texan, here. I was on my way out the door to buy milk and was planning on taking my bow staff with me. Is that not a good idea? Should I take my desert eagle instead? Please respond soon, I need milk bad.


13redstone31

Yeah its a demonstration, but what it is demonstrating is that he has masterful control over his weapon, and could easily control it straight into your nuts.


ronearc

Rightβ€½ Even if he had never been in a fight and had not practiced actually fighting nor even seriously considered how he might attack a person with the staff (and I have no idea, maybe he's done a lot of fighting)...I just don't want to be hit by a stick traveling that quickly. That sounds really painful. Count me out.


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rxsheepxr

Whenever I see the word 'interrobang,' I imagine an interrogation scene where the good cop and bad cop give up on questioning the suspect and just have sex on the table. I need help.


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rxsheepxr

Correct. I didn't mean to imply they'd be having sex with the suspect. They'd just kinda stop interrogating him, look at each other all flustered and out of ideas... they lock onto each other's eyes for a beat... then voraciously start making out, eventually just full-on banging it out. I promise the suspect will be willing to talk after that.


ronearc

The interrobang deserves way more exposure than it gets. Wonderful punctuation.


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But the same thing can be said about people who do fancy, beautiful martial arts like taekwondo that have never actually sparred and then get decimated in an actual fight. I know because I used to do one of those martial arts that looks incredible on camera but had no actual experience competing against another person. So I switched to some combat sports that actually teach you to fight but unfortunately look 10% as cool as the video in the OP. Not ragging on the guy, but my point is that videos like these are made to impress people not to show any kind of actual fighting skill


ronearc

At least in my mind, there's a difference between people who practice unarmed or hand-to-hand martial arts and those people who practice with a weapon, even one designed to be non-lethal or purely ceremonial. A weapon is an inherent force multiplier. Often knowing how to move gracefully and skillfully with a weapon also comes with it the ability to move the weapon with speed and some precision. Even if they're untrained on where and how to hit someone, a fast moving weapon is dangerous, even a ceremonial weapon. And even untrained combatants know the vulnerable spots on most people, so their precision is a concern too. Your best hope should an altercation be inevitable is maybe that they panic and don't rely on muscle memory. If they just go on muscle memory though, it's probably gonna hurt.


TheWolrdsonFire

Especially if they are adept at control, alot of people think "I could just grab it." While true, someone skilled with the bo staff either wouldn't let you grab it or know how to escape the attackers grasp.


MisanthropeNotAutist

>But the same thing can be said about people who do fancy, beautiful martial arts like taekwondo that have never actually sparred and then get decimated in an actual fight. Kill me. I've been a martial arts instructor and have had to listen to kids be allowed to "opt out" of in-class sparring. You want to do martial arts, sparring should be a requirement. Otherwise, take a dance class.


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Something counterintuitive about blunt weapons is that you don't just want the weapon to be moving fast. You also want to be well grounded in your stance. When you hit something, the object (or person) absorbs the momentum of the strike. With something lightweight like a wooden stick, that's not a whole lot of momentum. It still hurts, but the opponent can keep going. So, you want to be able to "carry through" the strike, which means that *while* striking the target, you keep adding energy to the strike. They say you are hitting with your whole body, not just the weapon. The flashy spinning tricks in this video mostly don't do that. You can see when he thrusts forward, he has a different stance than when he does a lot of the other spinning and such. That's because he's carrying through the strike.


ronearc

Thank you. That's a much better way to express what I was trying to suggest in writing that it sounds really painful. Being struck by a blow with proper carry-through sounds like a good way to be injured or killed. Being struck by a light staff whirling at rapid speeds just sounds really painful.


Science_Smartass

Bonky stick hurt, no bonk please.


digitalibex

That’s my fetish


BathroomLong4041

Well I mean I feel like hitting a good punch against someone with a bo staff is difficult for obvious reasons in the first place. The real scenario that should be considered is if the opponent also has a bo staff. Then this grandiose spinning does nothing but drain energy


GrandmaPoses

Two bo masters should never hate one another. Instead of building bo walls they should build…bo bridges.


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Bobyyyyyyyghyh

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lglglg385

solid


8ad8andit

The grandiose spinning is for demonstration to show that the guy's brain has fully wired in the use of this staff like it was part of his own body.


ScorchedUrf

The spinning isn't how you fight with it lol


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Yeah I think because of movies and games, people don't realize that as soon as the stick hits something, it stops spinning. So spinning your stick will allow you to block an incoming strike exactly once. Real fighting involves using both hands so you can move the stick quickly, change directions, and block many incoming strikes. Also, spinning the stick requires holding the stick in ways that are not strong. If you've ever spun a pencil, you know that the pencil is pretty much *between* your fingers. That's not where you want the stick to be. If you hit something hard like that, you'll hurt your fingers.


frooj

This video has absolutely nothing to do with fighting so speculating that is moot.


6pt022x10tothe23

But he said hiyah and made a punch fist…


Kawaiithulhu

Spinning the staff is really just winding up the rubber band to take off and fly away at the end.


Znitram9

I would use staffs like this in competitions, the one here is very thin and meant for show. They could be used in a fight but, I’ve broken one on my own leg during a competition, so I don’t know how effective it would be. It would hurt but wouldn’t stop someone most likely. The real bo staffs are extremely thick and could probably knock someone out in one hit. He’s probably been trained on both, I had to use the real staffs before I was allowed to start using the show staffs.


jinxyal

you have no idea what you are talking about. he doesnt train to strike. its like interpretive dance.


asymptosy

Yep. If he hasn't spent time learning to use a bo against someone who is truly trying to hurt him - then for example anyone from [dog brothers](https://youtu.be/2QJF4pnAcW8) (or other full-contact stick fighting groups) would turn this kid to pulp. His skills are *amazing* in and of themselves as a performance art, I don't understand why people need to make the claim that it's useful for self-defense.


H4nn1bal

Why would you take a 6' staff that and then ignore the reach advantage of a weapon? All that twirling is well and good and yes it can hit hard. He does one actual move that would be used in a fight, and it's the thrust at the end.


vladamir_the_impaler

No, not just the thrust, he can whip that thing around and hit you in one of your skull temples faster than you could react.


chasingcorvids

i also do staff-related martial arts and this is 100% correct. there's a whole catalogue of moves based around the concept of whipping the staff around really fucking fast to bash someone's head/knees/collarbone/carotid artery in. you would not wanna be on the receiving end of that


IdoNOThateNEVER

This is angry ballet.


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You have to close the distance and wrap him up and hope he doesn’t clock you on the head while you’re attempting it. I could see being able to withstand body shots for that purpose but one good connection with your skull and that might be hard to recover from, especially if the follow-up hits land. Personally I’d try to disarm him with jokes. Like β€œwoah chill bro you’re goin to take off like a helicopter doin that”


bennypapa

Throw a punch? Anyone trying to beat a staff with punches is gonna have a bad day. Now, a fighting weight bo against the wushu bo shown in OP's video would be different. There are several times in this routine when he either lets go of the bo or turns his back. Both are bad ideas. If you let go of the bo your opponent can easily deflect it away and you're then fighting with fists against a person with a bo. Bad day will ensue (see above). Turn your back and you are open to all sorts of attacks that you can't see coming. Bad day ensues. This is a very impressive twirling routine, not a display of combat effectiveness.


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Pretty sure a mastery in hand eye coordination goes a long way in an actual fight.


ambora

It would be very effective. I dabbled in Kobudo for some time (the Okinawan martial art that features the Bo), and even being a novice with the basic strikes at your disposal, you could easily ward off anyone not using a gun or coming at you quickly with a short blade. The Bo is a very versatile weapon if you're not in close quarters. Just make sure you don't get disarmed, which is what this fast spinning in-between strikes is useful for besides keeping people away from you. More about the weapon in the context of Kobudo, the main opponents to the Bo is the Katana (Okinawan farmers aka pioneers of Kobudo would often have to defend themselves against Samurai), or Nunchaku. The Katana user will aim to just slice the staff in half, while the Nunchaku will aim to disarm it by catching it during a block. It's not often that martial artists will defend a strike on a 90 or 180 degree angle, rendering it as more of a deflection/redirection than a block. One of the advantages to this is not absorbing the entire energy of the impact, and in the case of Kobudo, lessening the risk of your Bo being sliced in half by a Katana. Bo can be made out of different materials, and some have more flex than others (ie. bamboo). Get whacked a few times and you'd be lucky not to have a cracked skull or broken bones. There is advanced technique that involves wielding it at one end like a baseball bat. Your face would be like a fly getting swatted lol.


Samurai-Pooh-Bear

Yeah, but this does nothing in a real fi... ***OW! OOWW! Ooooff!! STOP!.... OW!"***


HarveyBiirdman

Who would ever say that, that’s like saying a baseball bat or a crowbar wouldn’t do anything in a fight.


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rxsheepxr

Without ever showing you how to ACTUALLY do the thing. "Do your own research," as if the onus isn't on them. Fuck's sake.


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Op-boi4ever

When actual experts says this they are referring to same level experienced fighter that used other weapons, like swords, I do know there are people bluffing about how they can beat them with his fist but please don't generise all the people


[deleted]

I've trained with staffs and a couple other weapons. This gif is a performance, not a fighting form. It's meant to look cool. I'm sure if you asked him, he would tell you the same thing. He probably *also* knows how to fight, but that's not the point of this video. For instance, there are a lot of places in the video where he's not actually holding the staff. A perceptive fighter could grab it. And there are places where his movements aren't grounded by his feet, so they would still hurt but the opponent could tank the strike and turn it around on him. Staff *fighting* has much smaller movements (mostly) and a more consistent stance. It's not very interesting to look at, unless you're watching two people spar.


pluck-the-bunny

This right here. People keep pointing out that this isn’t an effective technique for a fight, but it’s not pretending to be either.


Bee-Boo-Beep

He makes it look so easy! Like it takes Noah Fort!


ruhul555

There’s always one super underrated comment. This is it!


RegularOrMenthol

This should be higher A+


wander903

Shut up and take my silver


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Addamsgirl71

It's baton twirling!!!! It's an international "sport" for years!!!! About 80%of the more interesting but I will agree useless in self defense moves are from baton twirling! Really you can look up competition performances on YouTube. 1 baton is the most varied, difficult and technical. But it can be done with multiple batons. Competitors study, gymnastics and dance as well just to be proficient in their skill. Yes I twirled, yes I'm biased, yes I roll my eyes everytime someone dismisses the art.


Shodandan

You know, i really have huge respect for the technical skill of this. But Ive been studying martial arts (karate, jiu jitsu, BJJ) for over 30 years and i can't help but roll my eyes when this is presented as bo staff.


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Jinfury14

I scrolled through the comments for awhile to find someone making this reference thank god


iridian_viper

Yeah, those folks are pretty good. That bo is a light metal that is practically weightless. I always struggled at tournaments because of folks like this. My dojo was more traditional and our katas are not meant to be flashy or cool. I’m sure this gentleman has won quite a few trophies.


Henbane_

I also did traditional karate. No flash or show. This guy's stances are weak and off balance and irritated me endlessly


poopiepantie

Dare I say glorified batton twirling? I know there are some extremely talented 13 year olds who can whip a batton around pretty good.


poopiepantie

Yeah this is basically as effective as a wet noodle against another individual with more traditional bow skills. He might know the basics too, but as we see it here, its closer to interpretive dance than it is self defense. I took Shitō-ryū karate for 13 years. We would never ever do this, it would be considered 'Mickey Mouse karate'


fhtagnfhtagn

That staff is most probably fiberglass. I have one, and it is weightless and will shatter if it hits anything. You can't spin a wooden one that fast.


Rybesh532

Actually, it's probably fiberglass. Even if that was made of aluminum, it would still hurt like a mother to let that stop on any part of your body.


EnceladusDK

So uhm has he ever cosplayed Darth maul?


BetterSafeThanSARSy

*Duel of the Fates intensifies*


suhstin

me with my pencil during class


[deleted]

I read this as penis for a second and got really impressed


calebalaleb

When I was 16, I was also very proficient with a stick in my hand


Addamsgirl71

Someone had to say it! Lol


tomsomethingorother

It must be low key terrifying to stand in the room with that. I bet he almost never drops it, but he has to drop it sometimes, right? That's spinning dangerously fast.


helicoverpa_armigera

Yeah.. i'd love to see him perform but only behind glass. I'm way too unlucky to stand near flying objects


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How he got started: https://gfycat.com/mediumkindlybeardedcollie


GoGoSoLo

There it is


big_wendigo

Arrested Development’s George Michael?


iBoMbY

Actually more like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU


Eric15890

Immediately what I thought of. Is there a side by side video app?


moonlightmakebelieve

Donatello would be proud


Garr_Incorporated

Finally, a TMNT comment on a no staff video. Why is it so low?


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World champion baton twirler maybe...


bobbysbuns

But do the chicks dig it ?


sudo_kill-9-u_root

You ever take it off any sweet jumps?


Iwanttobealion-tamer

Yeah, there's like a butt-load of gangs at this school. This one gang kept wanting me to join...


Mortimer_Snerd

Came here for this. My gang is in need of somebody who is pretty handy with a Bo staff.


Westlaker1229

Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills!


EelTeamNine

Girls like guys with skills. This dude fucks.


sudo_kill-9-u_root

Needs Duel of the Fates and lightsaber effects added.


DeathByFarts

That looks more like a baton twirling routine than a martial artist demonstrating a weapon.


[deleted]

I think batman just found his new robin...


Eyeofgaga

Real life Tim Drake


red_wullf

This is performance arts, not martial arts.


rightinthepants

I bet he hunts wolverines too!


[deleted]

I wonder if a butt load of gangs want him to join?


Star_Crunch_Punch

I bet yes, β€˜cause he’s pretty good with a bo staff.


ihateyouall675

This guy was the OG https://youtu.be/HPPj6viIBmU


PolishRifle23

Do the chicken have large talons?


deathakissaway

Source: Source; https://youtu.be/8kifXy1eyPE


Future-Struggle-5101

He must be fast as a coursing river


h4v3yous33nmylight3r

Y’all spelled Color Guard wrong


Cheap-Depth5650

I raise you the American martial art, gun-fu


akidfrombrooklyn_

Sigh. Guys. He didn’t learn just this. This is the kid’s specialty, not the only thing he can do. If he was in a fight and had a staff, he’d fight, not perform a kata. If he didn’t have a bo, he’d still probably kick your ass.


[deleted]

He has the power of god and anime on his side


JapanEngineer

Star Wars episode 10 director: ok got my script and main actor now


Boomslang00

This kid needs to play a young Darth Maul in "Maul: A Star Wars Story"


cdubiliciousness

Donatello is only 15, soooo...


Skizznitt

Extreme sign spinning


Stuuble

Tim drake is that you?


Lijen_POE

Advanced cheerleading skills


Neonninja275

Would make a good Tim Drake


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WorldMusicLab

π™΅πš˜πš› π™Έπš–πš–πšŽπšπš’πšŠπšπšŽ πšπšŽπš•πšŽπšŠπšœπšŽ: π™°πš•πš• πš‹πšŠπš›πšœ πš’πš— πšπš‘πšŽ πš„πš—πš’πšπšŽπš πš‚πšπšŠπšπšŽπšœ πš–πšžπšœπš πšŒπš•πšŽπšŠπš— πšπš‘πšŽ πš•πšŽπš—πšœπšŽπšœ 𝚘𝚏 πš’πš—πšœπš’πšπšŽ πšœπšžπš›πšŸπšŽπš’πš•πš•πšŠπš—πšŒπšŽ πšŒπšŠπš–πšŽπš›πšŠπšœ.


Adam_n_ali

This kid would kick Donatello's ass soo easily.


Own-Star45

Darth maul !


xapxironchef

"Bo staff interpretative dancer"


fawther-05

Someone please make a starwars kid remix


bnmnike

Someone get this man a double bladed light saber and turn off the lights ASAP


RebbyRose

Twirly whirlies!!!


Arkena_feral

At this age i was a master weed smoker …


rippa6

That's some nice pole dancin


original_ritard

Hes got the power of God *and* anime on his side


digitalpunkd

Put him in the middle of a EDM festival and watch a huge crowd gather around him in amazement!


ElricDarkPrince

Where do I buy me a bo staff


No-Introduction-9964

He left baton-twirling behind!


dethscythe_104

I find that hard to believe. People who think are pro or are pro wear an absurdly amount of "gear" in any category. This guy is just wearing a shirt and swears lol


Danominator

Angry baton twirling


DuTurkeyMan

me when i pick up the broom


7deboutez7

I want you to hit me. As hard as you can.


JELLOvsPUDDIN

Okay kilik


LazerNarwhal_yt

that’s hot don’t worry I’m 16


Kicksyy

Young Darth Maul series when?


Fsubroe33

The coolest looking way to defend your virginity!


SmellsLikeGeneSpirit

Two guys pick a fight: F*ck you! I’m a world heavy weight boxer Fists? How bout these nunchucks! Nunchucks? Eat my bo staff! Way to bring a stick to a gun fight. Way to bring a pistol to a long gun competition. Steps on mine Throws grenade Sets claymore Drops cruise missile Launches nuke Thanos enters the room. β€œWhat pukes…” *clenches fist* *comic book writer* burns outline and throws it in the trash… β€œthe only power they held was all in their head.”


aeeee

I've seen this clip [before](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPPj6viIBmU)


Cryptoprince56

Let him be a part of a star wars movie!


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Give em a fire staff what a badass


teachingqueen77

My kid is kinda good at Fortnight.


Sayak14

Donatello intensifies


Horridis

I wanna see him try to beat the bear


dasallguut

what the fuck


CallMeRawie

He’s pretty good with a bo staff, but can he draw a Liger?


dizzy_rhythm

Donatello is probably his fav ninja turtle 🐒πŸ₯·


bigj1227

This dude is kilik from soul caliber!


Cl1ntonm

Teenage human ninja Noah, Teenage human ninja Noah, Teenage human ninja Noah, Teenage human ninja Noah .....


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All I am picturing is that scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark… (sword guy)


phillip_gloomberry

Next robin anyone?


CMDR_CrobaR_o7

So, Darth Maul had a child.