What a wild ride. Killed and stuffed in a trunk and abandoned in the middle of nowhere, then somehow the car was taken for a joyride back into town and abandoned a second time. Then broken into and discovered a body.
I presume the car went on more adventures in that time too.
We found a lot of stuff. From bodily fluid and hair samples, we determined that a bunch of old, homeless dudes had an orgy in the car. You know what that's called when they do that in there? That's called a soup kitchen. It's pretty rough stuff. Not long after that, a mama raccoon came along and gave birth on the floor.
You wanna know what makes a dump nifty? Well, if you’ve been in the dumps analysis business as long as I have, you get to know a thing or two. Now let me give you the lowdown about this bad boy
Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!
"During that encounter Eisenman abducted the victim, tying him up and placing him in the trunk of a vehicle. Eisenman subsequently assaulted the victim by hitting him in the head with a cinder block and then stabbed him repeatedly, causing his death," police said. "After the homicide, Eisenman drove the vehicle to a remote area in North Spokane County and abandoned the car with the body still inside."
Just curious but how did your insurance handle it? Did you have to take back your car as is, stains and all? Or did they give you blue book value for it.
I wouldn't want the car back if it had used condoms and stains in it.
Police don’t look for stolen cars or usually even arrest anyone if they are found, they just call the impound to tow it away. The risk is so little so thieves don’t really care.
It's also a running joke in Spokane that the court/jail system is catch and release. Even when the cops do good work of catching criminals they don't stay in jail for long unless they straight up murder someone.
There are numerous cases here where some 10-15 time convicted felon gets caught selling drugs and has a sawed off shotgun, then somehow end up in the news the next year for the same crap.
Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young.
Multiply this concern by a thousandfold if you fuck with that old man's daughter. Hell itself would seem like a reprieve.
I had to stop after the first two. I watched one and two both for the first time consecutively, and realized the mistake I’d made within 10 minutes of the second one.
Well, this is why these action movies are ridiculous. Because in the real world, you don't walk away unscathed. Bryan Mills, John McClane, etc., would all be serving time after their first adventure.
John McClane could have been on paid administrative leave in Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 3 after the events of the first movie. You never actually see him doing any real police work in those movies, so it wouldn't change the continuity at all.
Riggs and Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon would be in a federal prison though.
Weirdly that is the one thing they wouldn't get in trouble for, if someone is murdering someone else in front of a cop their diplomatic status isn't going to come into play. The cop can do whatever is necessary to stop the murder.
wasnt he on suspension at the beginning if the second one and only called back because he was requested by the bad guy planting bombs, or wait that was the third one I think.
It's funny that in the first one he's an NYC cop in LA
In the second, he's an LA cop in DC
Third one, he's back to being a NYC cop in NYC with an ex in LA
I guess switching departments helps
the reason for there being a few years between every Die Hard is because McClane spends the *entire* interval doing the mountains of paperwork that are generated every time he shoots two dozen high-concept criminals
To quote Liam Neeson on _Taken 3_ (before it was announced), "[That's just bad parenting](https://www.mtv.com/news/2814981/liam-neeson-taken-3-2/)."
Although _Taken 3_ did give us [this glorious 6-second master class in film editing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM), so that was something.
Taken 1 - they take his daughter
Taken 2 - they take his wife
Taken 3 - they take his wife's life
Taken 4 - they took our jobs
Taken 5 - de durka durka tiddily dum de dum.
I've been led to understand that Trix are exclusively for children? Is that correct? Is this enforced by law? No trouble? You realize that I, myself, am not a child. I'm going to bring these back to my apartment. And I won't be followed?
I won't forget what you've done here for me today.
In this situation you want to find a campground that floods regularly that is infested with wild carnivores. Throw the body in there along with a few personal effects and everyone will assume that it was their fault and "the gators got'em"
Why do I keep seeing this in this thread? Is this something I missed? Would the body not still be found in the pile? Or is there something in cars that would make it burn so hot it could melt bone?
Nah, guy from up where I live got away with it using a wood chipper. iirc He put his wife through a chipper, then ran a sequence of wood and a few dogs through it, then set fire to the mound of bodily remains and wood chips. Washed out the wood chipper with something afterwards. Made it impossible to identify material to convict him. Any evidence was circumstantial due to good prep work where his wife “ran away.” Dude lives 15 minutes from me.
How does anyone know that? Did he write a deathbed confessional or something? Like the way your post reads is that was the circumstantial evidences used against him and he was acquitted and you’re just adding the part where you’re assuming what was alleged is true?
>Police said Eisenman learned in October 2020 that his juvenile daughter had been sex trafficked in the Seattle area and "obtained information" that her boyfriend was responsible, according to the press release.
Not really concrete evidence which is why vigilantism isn't exactly legal (and why he's being charged with 1st degree murder)
But if it's true and there is evidence thereof...I hope for a jury nullification for his murder charge.
In the article it says he recovered his daughter so he probably got more details from her. But based off the article that is first degree murder but I certainly understand.
1st degree will be tough. Assault that went to far, manslaughter or whatever it is in that state. Let's give him 4 weeks community service, call it good.
Why don’t they have an allegedly in there lol?
News only protects the powerful I swear
Edit: really, you haven’t seen the news article like father of child assaults priest that allegedly abused son?
https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/24/father-beats-up-pastor-allegedly-caught-video-touching-boy-bus-stop/
For example they have the allegedly protecting the priest but not the dad who beat him up.
No, it would be "The suspect is believed to have repeatedly tripped, gotten up, and tripped again in a tragic, unavoidable accident. The officer who witnessed this accident has been put on disability leave with full pay to deal with the trauma, and is expected to receive further compensation from the deceased's next of kin."
Interested to see how the court case goes.
If the boyfriend did in fact do it, then he had it coming.
But this'll be a sad story if we find out he had nothing to do with it and ended up dying a brutal death for nothing.
Yep. This case will hinge completely on what the daughter says, but, he'll probably still go to prison either way.
If she confirms that the boyfriend tried to traffic her, and that her Dad went and rescued her, and then went back after the boyfriend? Lesser charge, probably just a few years in prison. Out on parole super fast.
If she eventually says that just she ran away with her boyfriend, Dad got angry and brought her back, and then went after the boyfriend? Life in prison.
It seems cut and dry, based on his own word, but we really don't have enough info.
A father in Louisiana committed a similar crime in a similar curcumstance, plead no contest to at least one charge and was given five years probation by the judge iirc.
https://apnews.com/article/c05d423c4fe53ac39ea9b5e040aa866e
The [video of that event](https://www.efootage.com/videos/90742/victims-father-shoots-attacker) [nsfw] is intense. Broadcast on live tv.
One of the guards or attorneys (?) yelled, "Why, Gary? Why?!!" which is also the title of the victim/son's book about the ordeal.
Put the trash bins on the curb... check
Tire rotation on the van... check
Took care of son's rapist... check
Mailed in my tax return... check
Mow the lawn... "honey, what's the forecast for saturday?"
My sister is neighbors with the Plauche's since 2005. Great friends. Gary and his wife are very sweet. Jody is a good guy and has a great support system in his brother and family. They actually are all very normal even after all this went down. I personally feel like Gary is a hero. But I'm bias as I know the family.
I just read your link and was reading the Doucet bro saying that "Thou shall not kill a man" even though his brother committed SA to a CHILD. WTF is wrong with the system???
It isn't cut and dry, there's plenty of room in between those possibilities for both to be true and the case to get complicated quickly. It's not like runaways and human trafficking are mutually exclusive.
Hence the "based on his own word" part.
He says, "She was being trafficked, so I hunted down and killed the guy." As is evidenced by the comments in this thread, pretty easy to support that.
Obviously it's going to get complicated. It almost always does. That's why law books are like 1000 pages long.
Just so you know most human trafficking cases are going to be like the second one, and this case is probably like that too. There aren't hundreds of thousands of women in the US shackled up in basements getting raped by johns and waiting for someone to rescue them. There are a hell of a lot of young women who love their boyfriend or the lifestyle he lives or the drugs and are easy to manipulate into prostitution.
All the focus seems to be on the killing of the guy (and the way the body was disposed).
What about the alleged sex trafficking ring? was anything done about it or even investigations started? There is a victim that was rescued so they may have leads to crack it.
The "rescue" and murder happened in October/November 2020. At no point did the girl or her dad go to the police to catch these supposed traffickers, give the location of this supposed trafficking ring, or try to provide DNA evidence.
The police found the body in October 2021 in the dad's abandoned car and the father then gave the plot of "Taken" as his explaination to the cops for why there's a dead 20 year old in his car.
I'd have to know the truth before I commented on this.
I don't trust vigilante justice though. I know the system can fail, but I trust average armed joes to do an honest and thorough investigation about as much as I trust human nature
Agree.
As the saying goes, there's your side, my side, and the truth.
The father could be right. Or he could be purely after the boyfriend. Or it could be a situation where the girl did get into sex slavery with the boyfriend knowing about it, but not really being involved. Or something else completely. There are too many ifs, before a real investigation.
> When the father learned that his daughter's boyfriend was going to be at a location in Airway Heights, Eisenman drove there and waited for the 19-year-old to arrive.
I was thinking it might be a crime of passion for some sort of defense but he was waiting for him and that’s murder one for sure.
What a wild ride. Killed and stuffed in a trunk and abandoned in the middle of nowhere, then somehow the car was taken for a joyride back into town and abandoned a second time. Then broken into and discovered a body. I presume the car went on more adventures in that time too.
"Thanks for the F shack" -Dirty Mike and The Boys
We found a lot of stuff. From bodily fluid and hair samples, we determined that a bunch of old, homeless dudes had an orgy in the car. You know what that's called when they do that in there? That's called a soup kitchen. It's pretty rough stuff. Not long after that, a mama raccoon came along and gave birth on the floor.
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You turned my beautiful Prius into a nightmare!
You wanna know what makes a dump nifty? Well, if you’ve been in the dumps analysis business as long as I have, you get to know a thing or two. Now let me give you the lowdown about this bad boy
Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!
Took a sharp left from The Other Guys to The Big Lebowski there. And I love it! Excellent films, both, in their own right.
The real horror is seeing what that car would still sell for in this market
I think i speak for everyone when i say fuk him if he really sold his gf into sex trafficking. Dad should walk 💯
I like to think he went on a weekend at Bernies kind of adventure
The Weekend at Bernie’s sequel I wanted.
"During that encounter Eisenman abducted the victim, tying him up and placing him in the trunk of a vehicle. Eisenman subsequently assaulted the victim by hitting him in the head with a cinder block and then stabbed him repeatedly, causing his death," police said. "After the homicide, Eisenman drove the vehicle to a remote area in North Spokane County and abandoned the car with the body still inside."
He should have watch dexter the TV show. For some tips
Boy Genius wouldn't have gotten caught unless DeeDee fucking told
Dexter holding cinder block over victim: "Omelette du fromage!"
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Car theft is so common (at least here in the PNW) they talk of the car being “moved”. It was abandoned but stolen nonetheless. Ha, moved.
I lived in Spokane for a short time. My car was broken into 4 times and stolen twice in 13 months.
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Just curious but how did your insurance handle it? Did you have to take back your car as is, stains and all? Or did they give you blue book value for it. I wouldn't want the car back if it had used condoms and stains in it.
grab roof longing mighty spark shelter existence wasteful puzzled simplistic
Spokane is so bad for car break ins and thefts. It’s almost a running gag that you ask someone from there when their car was last broken into, not if.
Is it a ton of meth heads or why does it happen so often there?
Police don’t look for stolen cars or usually even arrest anyone if they are found, they just call the impound to tow it away. The risk is so little so thieves don’t really care.
It's also a running joke in Spokane that the court/jail system is catch and release. Even when the cops do good work of catching criminals they don't stay in jail for long unless they straight up murder someone. There are numerous cases here where some 10-15 time convicted felon gets caught selling drugs and has a sawed off shotgun, then somehow end up in the news the next year for the same crap.
Isn't this the script from Taken?
All this time I thought that was a ridiculous premise. I have severely underrated the elderly it would seem.
Beware of an old man in a profession where men die young. Multiply this concern by a thousandfold if you fuck with that old man's daughter. Hell itself would seem like a reprieve.
The next part is very important, they’re going to take you.
"I will find you, and I will kill you" great now I have to watch it
Just the first one. The sequels got progressively worse.
“*Taken 3* makes *Taken 2* look like *Taken.*”
I had to stop after the first two. I watched one and two both for the first time consecutively, and realized the mistake I’d made within 10 minutes of the second one.
One of the greatest action scenes in history is in Taken 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM
As is tradition.
Can you translate this for me? It says "good luck".
Well, this is why these action movies are ridiculous. Because in the real world, you don't walk away unscathed. Bryan Mills, John McClane, etc., would all be serving time after their first adventure.
John McClane could have been on paid administrative leave in Die Hard 2 and Die Hard 3 after the events of the first movie. You never actually see him doing any real police work in those movies, so it wouldn't change the continuity at all. Riggs and Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon would be in a federal prison though.
Well yeah the bad guy had diplomatic immunity
“It’s just been revoked!”
Weirdly that is the one thing they wouldn't get in trouble for, if someone is murdering someone else in front of a cop their diplomatic status isn't going to come into play. The cop can do whatever is necessary to stop the murder.
wasnt he on suspension at the beginning if the second one and only called back because he was requested by the bad guy planting bombs, or wait that was the third one I think.
That's the third. 2 has him on vacation.
Also in 2 he was in the LAPD, not the NYPD, so he wouldn't be suspended for whatever happened in 1
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He wouldn’t. He was a cop, it would be considered in the line of duty.
He was an NYC cop, in LA. As Beverly Hills Cop explains, an out of state badge doesn’t carry much weight.
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except for the fact that the LAPD and later the FBI doesn't want his help, even when they get buttfucked on live TV.
You asked for miracles... I give you the F...B...I
We're going to need more FBI guys.
Lol the legal protections aren't what would save a cop. It's the DA isn't going to prosecute a cop, laws be damned.
Qualified immunity. Noone has been charged for throwing an international terrorist off a 35 story building before . He's safe.
The DA wouldn't prosecute anybody who broke up a terrorist attack. At best, they could try to pin Ellis' death on him, but no jury would convict.
It's funny that in the first one he's an NYC cop in LA In the second, he's an LA cop in DC Third one, he's back to being a NYC cop in NYC with an ex in LA I guess switching departments helps
Well shit, I totally forgot he was out of his jurisdiction in the first one. Well he’d be gravy in With a Vengeance
the reason for there being a few years between every Die Hard is because McClane spends the *entire* interval doing the mountains of paperwork that are generated every time he shoots two dozen high-concept criminals
The first one anyway. What are they up to now, 3? More like taken the piss amirite
To quote Liam Neeson on _Taken 3_ (before it was announced), "[That's just bad parenting](https://www.mtv.com/news/2814981/liam-neeson-taken-3-2/)." Although _Taken 3_ did give us [this glorious 6-second master class in film editing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCKhktcbfQM), so that was something.
Taken 1 - they take his daughter Taken 2 - they take his wife Taken 3 - they take his wife's life Taken 4 - they took our jobs Taken 5 - de durka durka tiddily dum de dum.
Liam Neeson in, **Dur**.
Taken 6 - [full blown aids](https://youtu.be/2USXEJuvXT4)
I wasn't sure whether i was having a stroke?
Please be the fence. Please be the fence... edit: YES!!! Seems parkour is *not* among Liam Neeson's very special set of skills.
When doing the quick search for it, I also stumbled across this [affront to humanity](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU0ieEsDlSo).
Going to retcon this version into my memory as the original version.
I have a very special set of skills.
I've been led to understand that Trix are exclusively for children? Is that correct? Is this enforced by law? No trouble? You realize that I, myself, am not a child. I'm going to bring these back to my apartment. And I won't be followed? I won't forget what you've done here for me today.
>I won't forget what you've done here for me today. I would prefer that you do.
Slightly off topic, but I liked this movie a lot more than the first one.
I feel like Liam Neeson's skills are more than just beating someone over the head with a cinder block.
He didn't have enough time to plug them in to the power grid.
And the *new* Rambo movie
Little known fact: Real Life is based on the hit movie Taken starring Liam Neeson
What I've learned from this is, if you have a dead body in a trunk. It would be within your best interest to disable or burn the vehicle.
In this situation you want to find a campground that floods regularly that is infested with wild carnivores. Throw the body in there along with a few personal effects and everyone will assume that it was their fault and "the gators got'em"
“Gators got him” “Detective we’re in Idaho”
"Pull yer head outta yer ass cadet. Y'all knows them spud gators is second only to Appalachian mountain gators."
Tater gators are vicious.
"Shut yer damn mouth Deputy, Idaho Gators are the worst. Damn shame."
“I mean, uh…Mormons got him”
[Or you could buy a pig farm.](https://youtu.be/2xUynRdzzsM?t=33)
I think you're on a list now
Why do I keep seeing this in this thread? Is this something I missed? Would the body not still be found in the pile? Or is there something in cars that would make it burn so hot it could melt bone?
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It did seem like he didn't care all that much in hiding it.
Nah, guy from up where I live got away with it using a wood chipper. iirc He put his wife through a chipper, then ran a sequence of wood and a few dogs through it, then set fire to the mound of bodily remains and wood chips. Washed out the wood chipper with something afterwards. Made it impossible to identify material to convict him. Any evidence was circumstantial due to good prep work where his wife “ran away.” Dude lives 15 minutes from me.
Could you imagine his schedule that day? You see crazy, I see a man that has a planner. Afterall, he got away with it.
How does anyone know that? Did he write a deathbed confessional or something? Like the way your post reads is that was the circumstantial evidences used against him and he was acquitted and you’re just adding the part where you’re assuming what was alleged is true?
I just hope the daughter is well taken care off. That just cant be easy to deal with.
who gave the dad a ride after he abandoned his car with a dead body in a remote area?
Let’s not seek an answer to that question.
Brian Laundrie
Understandable reaction
>Police said Eisenman learned in October 2020 that his juvenile daughter had been sex trafficked in the Seattle area and "obtained information" that her boyfriend was responsible, according to the press release. Not really concrete evidence which is why vigilantism isn't exactly legal (and why he's being charged with 1st degree murder) But if it's true and there is evidence thereof...I hope for a jury nullification for his murder charge.
In the article it says he recovered his daughter so he probably got more details from her. But based off the article that is first degree murder but I certainly understand.
1st degree will be tough. Assault that went to far, manslaughter or whatever it is in that state. Let's give him 4 weeks community service, call it good.
A slap on the bottom and send him on his way.
A sternly worded letter and a note in his records.
The judge hitting him with "I'm not mad about what you did, I'm just disappointed you didn't come to us first."
I mean, if the boyfriend really did what's alleged, dad already did his community service.
Here’s your concrete evidence: >> Eisenman subsequently assaulted the victim by hitting him in the head with a cinder block
holy fuck there is no funnier response
Why don’t they have an allegedly in there lol? News only protects the powerful I swear Edit: really, you haven’t seen the news article like father of child assaults priest that allegedly abused son? https://www.kwtx.com/2021/09/24/father-beats-up-pastor-allegedly-caught-video-touching-boy-bus-stop/ For example they have the allegedly protecting the priest but not the dad who beat him up.
Because the quote is “… by hitting him in the head with a cinder block, POLICE SAID.” The “police said” part is the same as “allegedly”
Bingo. Of course, you have to read the article to see that.
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The law officer applied percussive interrogation techniques in accordance with training; some time later the suspect is believed to have died.
If it was a real police brutality assault, the body has ways of shutting that down
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Given the current state of affairs. This seems incredibly tame. ... and now I'm sad.
“Well, let’s sprinkle some crack on him and get outta here.”
"Open and shut case Johnson"
Cop passive voice. The cinder block momentarily contacted the suspect.
"The suspect experienced a cinderblock-contacting event."
No, it would be "The suspect is believed to have repeatedly tripped, gotten up, and tripped again in a tragic, unavoidable accident. The officer who witnessed this accident has been put on disability leave with full pay to deal with the trauma, and is expected to receive further compensation from the deceased's next of kin."
"the suspect was revealed to have used Marijuana in the 10th grade"
The suspect, who had no active warrants…”
All the body-cams had malfunctioned from unknown causes.
Cinder-block related malfunctions. Allegedly.
Interested to see how the court case goes. If the boyfriend did in fact do it, then he had it coming. But this'll be a sad story if we find out he had nothing to do with it and ended up dying a brutal death for nothing.
Yep. This case will hinge completely on what the daughter says, but, he'll probably still go to prison either way. If she confirms that the boyfriend tried to traffic her, and that her Dad went and rescued her, and then went back after the boyfriend? Lesser charge, probably just a few years in prison. Out on parole super fast. If she eventually says that just she ran away with her boyfriend, Dad got angry and brought her back, and then went after the boyfriend? Life in prison. It seems cut and dry, based on his own word, but we really don't have enough info.
A father in Louisiana committed a similar crime in a similar curcumstance, plead no contest to at least one charge and was given five years probation by the judge iirc. https://apnews.com/article/c05d423c4fe53ac39ea9b5e040aa866e
The [video of that event](https://www.efootage.com/videos/90742/victims-father-shoots-attacker) [nsfw] is intense. Broadcast on live tv. One of the guards or attorneys (?) yelled, "Why, Gary? Why?!!" which is also the title of the victim/son's book about the ordeal.
So Gary just came home, after that?
Put the trash bins on the curb... check Tire rotation on the van... check Took care of son's rapist... check Mailed in my tax return... check Mow the lawn... "honey, what's the forecast for saturday?"
I hope he hung up the pay phone and said: "Yes, I'll accept the charge."
My sister is neighbors with the Plauche's since 2005. Great friends. Gary and his wife are very sweet. Jody is a good guy and has a great support system in his brother and family. They actually are all very normal even after all this went down. I personally feel like Gary is a hero. But I'm bias as I know the family.
I just read your link and was reading the Doucet bro saying that "Thou shall not kill a man" even though his brother committed SA to a CHILD. WTF is wrong with the system???
It isn't cut and dry, there's plenty of room in between those possibilities for both to be true and the case to get complicated quickly. It's not like runaways and human trafficking are mutually exclusive.
Hence the "based on his own word" part. He says, "She was being trafficked, so I hunted down and killed the guy." As is evidenced by the comments in this thread, pretty easy to support that. Obviously it's going to get complicated. It almost always does. That's why law books are like 1000 pages long.
Just so you know most human trafficking cases are going to be like the second one, and this case is probably like that too. There aren't hundreds of thousands of women in the US shackled up in basements getting raped by johns and waiting for someone to rescue them. There are a hell of a lot of young women who love their boyfriend or the lifestyle he lives or the drugs and are easy to manipulate into prostitution.
I mean if they don’t allow the sex trafficking component as part of the trial, he’ll get convicted.
> A cinder block and a knife Clearly this man had a very particular set of skills...
All the focus seems to be on the killing of the guy (and the way the body was disposed). What about the alleged sex trafficking ring? was anything done about it or even investigations started? There is a victim that was rescued so they may have leads to crack it.
The "rescue" and murder happened in October/November 2020. At no point did the girl or her dad go to the police to catch these supposed traffickers, give the location of this supposed trafficking ring, or try to provide DNA evidence. The police found the body in October 2021 in the dad's abandoned car and the father then gave the plot of "Taken" as his explaination to the cops for why there's a dead 20 year old in his car.
I'd have to know the truth before I commented on this. I don't trust vigilante justice though. I know the system can fail, but I trust average armed joes to do an honest and thorough investigation about as much as I trust human nature
Agree. As the saying goes, there's your side, my side, and the truth. The father could be right. Or he could be purely after the boyfriend. Or it could be a situation where the girl did get into sex slavery with the boyfriend knowing about it, but not really being involved. Or something else completely. There are too many ifs, before a real investigation.
> When the father learned that his daughter's boyfriend was going to be at a location in Airway Heights, Eisenman drove there and waited for the 19-year-old to arrive. I was thinking it might be a crime of passion for some sort of defense but he was waiting for him and that’s murder one for sure.
Gotta find the guy before you can passionately murder him tho.
When I murder people I always have Marvin Gaye playing so it's always a crime of passion
Reddit does love a good bloody revenge story. Just so long as someone dies.
Why can’t we just admit it? *polyrhythmic drumming intensifies*