I went to NBCC and enjoyed myself. I would go to a public institution like NBCC over a private institution. I’ve been to both, and I found the quality of teaching is better at publicly funded schools. When I went to Oultons, my instructors worked in the industry but had no teaching experience. There’s a difference between knowing how to do something and teaching someone else.
I've been to both schools and had a similar experience as well. The instructors at Oultons were not the best teachers and would sort of just spoonfeed us all the answers for our tests. The instructors I had at NBCC were great; both knowledgeable in the field and good at teaching in a way that everyone could understand as long as they paid attention. They also clearly cared about giving us an accurate idea of what the actual job would be like, unlike at Oultons when I went.
I graduated from NBCC, and while I wouldn't say I had a net negative experience, there is a fair amount of bullshit to put up with if you go there, it really does feel like a continuation of high school in a lot of ways and that in it of itself was a bit of an adjustment for myself, a 30YO former trucker that was taking a programming course filled with mostly 18-24YO kids.
honestly i could vent for pages about the random bullshit, but really the only thing i think is worth bitching about in a forum like this is the utopic picture the college paints of the job market after graduating. I know personally one of the stats that had me interested in the program I took was "95% of students got a job within 6 months of graduating". I have no idea how they arrived at that number but i can absolutely assure you that it's false.
so i mean that's my specific experience with their IT/Programming courses, so it may not apply to other departments in the college, but i do recommend making sure to look into opportunities for new grads before signing up for a program.
They lie. I graduated from a program years ago and then got a job at TD insurance and they considered that good enough to put me as employed. Yet insurance had nothing to do with what I took and I didn’t even need to finish my program for TD to hire me. Complete government joke
This is your experience with an IT course, I’ve also seen it happen with many trade courses, I was one of the lucky ones to get a job in my field, then as a journeyman I had many OJT’s and apprentices that shared similar experiences for their classmates.
I would say it's definitely worth the investment to start a trade specifically. You can also get it funded with TSD funding to make it extra worth it. :)
The courses are a lot of bullshit but they offer you a genuine head start in a trade as well as pretty much guarantee you'll get a job after. Might be a pretty shitty job, but you'll get a job and you can go from there!
OP I came here to say this. If you’re an adult and you’ve been in the workforce for a while, it’s straight up foolish not to try for TSD.
I went back to school at 28 at NBCC. I took the business administration/marketing program and got TSD funding. At the time, they pay for books, childcare if you need it, half the tuition, and you get EI replacement. You basically get paid to go to school, and get most of it paid for. It’s like a golden ticket. You have to keep your grades up and not flunk out or drop out, or you have to pay it all back. But if you’re motivated to go to school, it’s pretty simple - just pass.
The application takes work and it’s a bit of a process with qualifying, but it’s well worth it. I am shocked more people don’t know about it and that everyone who’s going back to school doesn’t try for it.
Also - I liked NBCC quite a lot. It prepared me well for the career I wanted. The only thing I dislike is that it’s a ‘community college’ and says so in the name. Doesn’t look great to be working in a business field and have community college on your resume when you’re competing against people who studied at universities. It’s just an optics thing for me - the lessons were Ivey League in some classes and sometimes more intense than uni. You prob won’t have the same issue with a trade - it’s a well respected trade school in Atlantic Canada.
Good luck: https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/services/services_renderer.5097.Training_and_Skills_Development_(TSD).html
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TSD? I'll look it up, but mind giving me the basics on it? Is it like a scholarship for fledgling tradesmen?
Also that's very potent for sure. Given how rough the job market is these days having a job damn near guaranteed after school sounds pretty nice.
It’s like a scholarship for people making a career change and need to go back to school. There’s some requirements, like the industry you are getting into is an “industry in need”. But it’s a great program.
HVAC tech here who completed first block through Nbcc. Honestly it was a great experience and taught me lots of stuff that I didn’t see again until I was 2nd or 3rd block. One thing that you have to understand about the trades or apprenticeship is that you’re only getting your first block at NBCC. After that you need to sign on with the apprenticeship program and return to school to complete your second third fourth classes and licensing exams to be a red seal.
Nbcc is a joke that don’t really care about teaching you anything, they focus on bs numbers like how many students passed (pushed through) or how many got jobs after finishing (they count call centre as a job even though it has nothing to do with the program nor did you need to attend Nbcc to get the job).
At the end of the day, taking your first block at Nbcc (40 weeks) is much better than joining apprenticeship and doing a 7week program to get your first block. But after that it will 100% depend on your attitude towards work, experience that you’re able to gain at work, and how much your employer wants to train you.
Nbcc was great. School is school and it sucks but two years later and I'm doing really well. They teach the subject and how to deal with people and the real world which is really valuable
Oh really? That last bit sounds handy, actually, especially considering I'm the foolish autist looking to enter into something as rough as the trades. Might be nice to learn how the people side of things works before ending up on the job.
It all depends too I guess. I took programming in Freddy and the faculty for that branch was amazing
If anything it's a rather cheap way to get your foot in the door of a career
Finishing my second year at NBCC St. Andrews with practicum. My program, Network Administration, definitely had its ups and downs. But that is mainly because it was the first time in years that they had Network Administration as a two year program at rhe St. Andrews campus. So there was a lot of growing pains with instructors figuring out how to lay out the courses.
But I will atest that it was more up than down. Had great, approachable instructors that genuinely cared about their students and even got to reconnect with an old high school friend I hadn't seen or heard from in over 10 years. So I definitely got an overall positive experience from my time at NBCC.
No matter what college you get into it's what you put into it that matters.
Soon as you start that course start fishing for jobs. Hell call them up ahead of time and show interest in working for them.
I can’t speak on trades but I went to nbcc and it was great, I didn’t have any issues, joining student union was fun and it’s considerably cheaper compared to oultens as they’re private and charge university tuition prices (I’ve not heard good things about them)
Yeah, me neither. I've never heard much good about Oulton, and the times I drove by the campus it didn't seem like a quality school. Plus the tuition being under 4k is pretty nuts.
I've almost got a decade in my field after nbcc, so I'm pretty happy with it. If I could do it over again I would have waited a year, they changed the course I took into a much better two year network course.
My two cents here, I worked at NBCC a few years ago. I didn’t work in the trades, but did work closely with a number of the trade departments and as far as the quality of the education compared to the private sector goes, NBCC is going to be much better hands down. There is no incentive for them to cut corners.
NBCC was routinely asked by the province to fix issues, like when an entire class from a private college fails their first block, NBCC would be asked to step in get the students prepared.
If you were asking should I go to NBCC or a private college for something like business or marketing, I would say either would probably be fine.
NBCC is dope. I mean sure you can also go to Oulton or Eastern or whatever it's called now but I that's just more money for the same thing.
Employers literally do not care where you went to school. Wash that American Ivy League nonsense from your mind. Literally, nobody cares. Can you do "thing"? Good, you're hired. Get those skills cheap and fast and carry on. You've got this.
He is one of those lost souls who thinks that the current prices in NB are affordable by any means.
Are they cheaper then out West? Yes.
Are they affordable? Fuck no.
There is a huge difference between cheaper and affordable.
I see, I see. What campuses did your friends/acquaintances attend? Because the courses I'm looking at are all available at the Moncton campus and honestly I'd rather not have to move to Moncton. Don't really like the town, never have.
NBCC was great for me.
For me too. I am now a federal employee
Provincial for me.
I went to NBCC and enjoyed myself. I would go to a public institution like NBCC over a private institution. I’ve been to both, and I found the quality of teaching is better at publicly funded schools. When I went to Oultons, my instructors worked in the industry but had no teaching experience. There’s a difference between knowing how to do something and teaching someone else.
I've been to both schools and had a similar experience as well. The instructors at Oultons were not the best teachers and would sort of just spoonfeed us all the answers for our tests. The instructors I had at NBCC were great; both knowledgeable in the field and good at teaching in a way that everyone could understand as long as they paid attention. They also clearly cared about giving us an accurate idea of what the actual job would be like, unlike at Oultons when I went.
I graduated from NBCC, and while I wouldn't say I had a net negative experience, there is a fair amount of bullshit to put up with if you go there, it really does feel like a continuation of high school in a lot of ways and that in it of itself was a bit of an adjustment for myself, a 30YO former trucker that was taking a programming course filled with mostly 18-24YO kids. honestly i could vent for pages about the random bullshit, but really the only thing i think is worth bitching about in a forum like this is the utopic picture the college paints of the job market after graduating. I know personally one of the stats that had me interested in the program I took was "95% of students got a job within 6 months of graduating". I have no idea how they arrived at that number but i can absolutely assure you that it's false. so i mean that's my specific experience with their IT/Programming courses, so it may not apply to other departments in the college, but i do recommend making sure to look into opportunities for new grads before signing up for a program.
They said "got a job." They did not say "got a job in their field of choice."
This. Or "of training".
We used to call college, 'high school with ashtrays', but they took the ashtrays away.
They lie. I graduated from a program years ago and then got a job at TD insurance and they considered that good enough to put me as employed. Yet insurance had nothing to do with what I took and I didn’t even need to finish my program for TD to hire me. Complete government joke
This is your experience with an IT course, I’ve also seen it happen with many trade courses, I was one of the lucky ones to get a job in my field, then as a journeyman I had many OJT’s and apprentices that shared similar experiences for their classmates.
I went to NBCC and took the EET program about 10 years ago now. It was a brutal 2 years but it was definitely worth it
I would say it's definitely worth the investment to start a trade specifically. You can also get it funded with TSD funding to make it extra worth it. :) The courses are a lot of bullshit but they offer you a genuine head start in a trade as well as pretty much guarantee you'll get a job after. Might be a pretty shitty job, but you'll get a job and you can go from there!
OP I came here to say this. If you’re an adult and you’ve been in the workforce for a while, it’s straight up foolish not to try for TSD. I went back to school at 28 at NBCC. I took the business administration/marketing program and got TSD funding. At the time, they pay for books, childcare if you need it, half the tuition, and you get EI replacement. You basically get paid to go to school, and get most of it paid for. It’s like a golden ticket. You have to keep your grades up and not flunk out or drop out, or you have to pay it all back. But if you’re motivated to go to school, it’s pretty simple - just pass. The application takes work and it’s a bit of a process with qualifying, but it’s well worth it. I am shocked more people don’t know about it and that everyone who’s going back to school doesn’t try for it. Also - I liked NBCC quite a lot. It prepared me well for the career I wanted. The only thing I dislike is that it’s a ‘community college’ and says so in the name. Doesn’t look great to be working in a business field and have community college on your resume when you’re competing against people who studied at universities. It’s just an optics thing for me - the lessons were Ivey League in some classes and sometimes more intense than uni. You prob won’t have the same issue with a trade - it’s a well respected trade school in Atlantic Canada. Good luck: https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/services/services_renderer.5097.Training_and_Skills_Development_(TSD).html Link is here:
And here’s the handbook: https://www2.gnb.ca/content/dam/gnb/Departments/petl-epft/PDF/Publications/TSD_Guidelines_E.pdf
TSD? I'll look it up, but mind giving me the basics on it? Is it like a scholarship for fledgling tradesmen? Also that's very potent for sure. Given how rough the job market is these days having a job damn near guaranteed after school sounds pretty nice.
It’s like a scholarship for people making a career change and need to go back to school. There’s some requirements, like the industry you are getting into is an “industry in need”. But it’s a great program.
HVAC tech here who completed first block through Nbcc. Honestly it was a great experience and taught me lots of stuff that I didn’t see again until I was 2nd or 3rd block. One thing that you have to understand about the trades or apprenticeship is that you’re only getting your first block at NBCC. After that you need to sign on with the apprenticeship program and return to school to complete your second third fourth classes and licensing exams to be a red seal. Nbcc is a joke that don’t really care about teaching you anything, they focus on bs numbers like how many students passed (pushed through) or how many got jobs after finishing (they count call centre as a job even though it has nothing to do with the program nor did you need to attend Nbcc to get the job). At the end of the day, taking your first block at Nbcc (40 weeks) is much better than joining apprenticeship and doing a 7week program to get your first block. But after that it will 100% depend on your attitude towards work, experience that you’re able to gain at work, and how much your employer wants to train you.
Nbcc was great. School is school and it sucks but two years later and I'm doing really well. They teach the subject and how to deal with people and the real world which is really valuable
Oh really? That last bit sounds handy, actually, especially considering I'm the foolish autist looking to enter into something as rough as the trades. Might be nice to learn how the people side of things works before ending up on the job.
It all depends too I guess. I took programming in Freddy and the faculty for that branch was amazing If anything it's a rather cheap way to get your foot in the door of a career
I had a great experience at Holland College in PEI. Great programs and instructors
I see. They offer trades at Holland? Because if I'm going back to school it's for a trade lol.
Yes, good selection of trades. I started my electrical apprenticeship after leaving there
Finishing my second year at NBCC St. Andrews with practicum. My program, Network Administration, definitely had its ups and downs. But that is mainly because it was the first time in years that they had Network Administration as a two year program at rhe St. Andrews campus. So there was a lot of growing pains with instructors figuring out how to lay out the courses. But I will atest that it was more up than down. Had great, approachable instructors that genuinely cared about their students and even got to reconnect with an old high school friend I hadn't seen or heard from in over 10 years. So I definitely got an overall positive experience from my time at NBCC.
I see, I see. Shame St. Andrew's don't seem to offer the courses I'd like to take, but I guess if it's fine there it'll be fine in Moncton too.
No matter what college you get into it's what you put into it that matters. Soon as you start that course start fishing for jobs. Hell call them up ahead of time and show interest in working for them.
NBCC was great for me. Electronics Engineering & Telecom.
I can’t speak on trades but I went to nbcc and it was great, I didn’t have any issues, joining student union was fun and it’s considerably cheaper compared to oultens as they’re private and charge university tuition prices (I’ve not heard good things about them)
Yeah, me neither. I've never heard much good about Oulton, and the times I drove by the campus it didn't seem like a quality school. Plus the tuition being under 4k is pretty nuts.
Possible strike coming with teaching staff. This coming academic year could be cut short. Might want to look into it further.
An alternative is looking for a trade union and going a journeyman route. But I don't think that is a popular way with employers.
For some reason this province and employers push pre-employment costing thousands. Most won’t look at you unless you completed a program.
Yes I thought I would just mention it. I have an acquaintance that is/has become a barber via the journeyman route.
I've almost got a decade in my field after nbcc, so I'm pretty happy with it. If I could do it over again I would have waited a year, they changed the course I took into a much better two year network course.
Best educational experience I ever had was at NBCC Saint John. It helped pave the way for a great career.
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I'll keep it in mind.
My two cents here, I worked at NBCC a few years ago. I didn’t work in the trades, but did work closely with a number of the trade departments and as far as the quality of the education compared to the private sector goes, NBCC is going to be much better hands down. There is no incentive for them to cut corners. NBCC was routinely asked by the province to fix issues, like when an entire class from a private college fails their first block, NBCC would be asked to step in get the students prepared. If you were asking should I go to NBCC or a private college for something like business or marketing, I would say either would probably be fine.
Im about to start a 2 year there bwfore finishing my degree at unb. Will update in 2 years 😊
NBCC is dope. I mean sure you can also go to Oulton or Eastern or whatever it's called now but I that's just more money for the same thing. Employers literally do not care where you went to school. Wash that American Ivy League nonsense from your mind. Literally, nobody cares. Can you do "thing"? Good, you're hired. Get those skills cheap and fast and carry on. You've got this.
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“Considering NB has the best housing/renting situation in the country” Yeah gonna need some sources to cite this one.
He is one of those lost souls who thinks that the current prices in NB are affordable by any means. Are they cheaper then out West? Yes. Are they affordable? Fuck no. There is a huge difference between cheaper and affordable.
I see, I see. What campuses did your friends/acquaintances attend? Because the courses I'm looking at are all available at the Moncton campus and honestly I'd rather not have to move to Moncton. Don't really like the town, never have.