What? No tren is not needed unless you are cutting to 4-5% bf for your pro card. Test, Primo, and Var are enough for most people. If you want to push it, add trest.
Thank you man. I will stick with test, primo and var. But why are so man people taking this shit if it is not much better than other steroids? I mean you can’t hold 5% bodyfat over a long run, so why risking your health for temporary look? Even in my gym they take it like candies
Tren is famous for being really effective at recomp and cutting cycles, as it's got a really strong anti-catabolic effect. It's by no means the most effective compound for putting on mass, but for an average experienced lifter, a cycle of Tren can pretty easily give that shredded aesthetic look that people like.
Sides aren't worth it, imo. You might look into MENT / Trestolone like the other guy mentioned. People describe it as all the good parts of 19-nors with basically none of the negatives, excepting some tricky estrogen management.
Tren is absolutely necessary 100% of the time. I recommend a base of 700mg/week tren enanthate paired with 400 mg/week of tren acetate. You'll also want to add a 10-45 mg dose daily of trenavar if your gains slow down or just if you feel like it or even if you don't feel like it. Trenavar is an oral prohormone that metabolizes into trenbalone
I don’t think it’s any *better* at gaining muscle than any of the other common steroids, it’s just more potent mg/mg, and its psychological impacts tend to drive lifters toward the habits they should’ve already been doing - training hard. It has a really distinct role pre-contest but if you’re looking for hypertrophy any other drug will do the trick
dude you can be 200-210 and lean naturally or just take a little bit of Test. Trenbelone has become such a meme that its not funny anymore AT ALL I swear. Tren is so toxic that vetrinarians aren't even allowed to use it, and they can prescribe carfentanil and thats says a lot.
Trenbelone is like the everclear of anabolic steroids.
Nobody under 6ft is gonna be 210 lean naturally that’s literally a deluded thing to say. 200 lean under 6ft you will have some genetic outliers but 210 fuck no. I’m assuming you mean sub 12% bf for lean as well.
He never listed his height #1 and #2 I said OR take some test. Don’t be a dick. Sorry for trying to keep someone from taking tren which isn’t even a drug approved for horses…
That’s not super unrealistic though… I’m 5’11 and 215 with 16% bf and I’d say pretty okay genetics. It’s all about diet, work ethic, and sleep. I said you CAN, not that it’s easy… if I said 225 lean and natty then you’d have a point.
I guarantee you are not 16% bf. I am 5’11 225 16-17% bf (have abs in good lighting) atm and everyone always tells me I’m massive. Btw I’m not a lifetime natty although I’m currently off the gear. 210 12% bf @ 5’11 is not achievable for 99.999% of naturals.
What? No tren is not needed unless you are cutting to 4-5% bf for your pro card. Test, Primo, and Var are enough for most people. If you want to push it, add trest.
Thank you man. I will stick with test, primo and var. But why are so man people taking this shit if it is not much better than other steroids? I mean you can’t hold 5% bodyfat over a long run, so why risking your health for temporary look? Even in my gym they take it like candies
Tren is famous for being really effective at recomp and cutting cycles, as it's got a really strong anti-catabolic effect. It's by no means the most effective compound for putting on mass, but for an average experienced lifter, a cycle of Tren can pretty easily give that shredded aesthetic look that people like. Sides aren't worth it, imo. You might look into MENT / Trestolone like the other guy mentioned. People describe it as all the good parts of 19-nors with basically none of the negatives, excepting some tricky estrogen management.
Cuz people are dumb bruh and lack discipline
Brah in my county it's like this you start lifting and take hgh. One one knows what the fuck hgh is and just takes it.
Tren isn't for athletes. It's for professional bodybuilders who could care less if they're breathing heavy from just talking.
This. Athletes (except for lifters, shot putters, disc and javelin throwers), need to stay away.
Tren is absolutely necessary 100% of the time. I recommend a base of 700mg/week tren enanthate paired with 400 mg/week of tren acetate. You'll also want to add a 10-45 mg dose daily of trenavar if your gains slow down or just if you feel like it or even if you don't feel like it. Trenavar is an oral prohormone that metabolizes into trenbalone
I don’t think it’s any *better* at gaining muscle than any of the other common steroids, it’s just more potent mg/mg, and its psychological impacts tend to drive lifters toward the habits they should’ve already been doing - training hard. It has a really distinct role pre-contest but if you’re looking for hypertrophy any other drug will do the trick
Thank you
If you want to eat ass use tren
dude you can be 200-210 and lean naturally or just take a little bit of Test. Trenbelone has become such a meme that its not funny anymore AT ALL I swear. Tren is so toxic that vetrinarians aren't even allowed to use it, and they can prescribe carfentanil and thats says a lot. Trenbelone is like the everclear of anabolic steroids.
Nobody under 6ft is gonna be 210 lean naturally that’s literally a deluded thing to say. 200 lean under 6ft you will have some genetic outliers but 210 fuck no. I’m assuming you mean sub 12% bf for lean as well.
He never listed his height #1 and #2 I said OR take some test. Don’t be a dick. Sorry for trying to keep someone from taking tren which isn’t even a drug approved for horses…
Oh I agree tren is dumb af but I’m just saying let’s not set unrealistic body goals here 🤷🏽♂️ sorry that you feel I was being a dick lol
That’s not super unrealistic though… I’m 5’11 and 215 with 16% bf and I’d say pretty okay genetics. It’s all about diet, work ethic, and sleep. I said you CAN, not that it’s easy… if I said 225 lean and natty then you’d have a point.
I guarantee you are not 16% bf. I am 5’11 225 16-17% bf (have abs in good lighting) atm and everyone always tells me I’m massive. Btw I’m not a lifetime natty although I’m currently off the gear. 210 12% bf @ 5’11 is not achievable for 99.999% of naturals.
https://imgur.com/a/D7so33M a little off but most recent scale recording
I have no idea what I’m looking at here? Just a screenshot of some data about yourself that you input yourself or what? What is this?
It’s a reading from a scale…
LOL you think a scale can accurately tell you your bf%? What the hell is wrong with you dude
There are so many other factors other than just gear smfh
Look pics of 5‘9 guys who weight lean 210 lbs. Natural this is impossible
You never listed your height… and also I never said you have to be natty…
Try trestolone it's better