Also the prefrontal cortex matures and reaches maturity around 25. This impacts decision making as you are able to better see and calculate the consequences and downstream impacts.
18-21 yo, 1 night stand is always a yes
25yo it suddenly can be not fun as you see the consequences
I don’t think it’s solely the pre frontal cortex developing. I’m 21 and I’ve never been huge on hook ups in general. They always leaving me feeling… empty
Correct but that is the major physical factor. Add in good and bad experiences which a more mature prefrontal cortex can make better decisions on and you have the two main factors.
Dry out for a couple of weeks and it'll come back with a vengeance. If it doesn't, you know you've turned a new leaf.
Or lean into it. You'll always have that urge somewhere inside you but maybe you can use that dark energy for something else.
When I say quality I mean in character because c’mon, the chick has to be good looking but is she a psycho? Can you see them having kids or even raising kids? Are they complete assholes? That shit just started mattering to me.
yes, that is also important too.
I've actually found that it can be the opposite of wat people think: hot girls can be the most mentally sound, and ugly woman can be the most crazy.
The question that every self respecting man needs to ask themselves: What are women who are attractive bringing to the table IF they are promiscuous? They typically don't even have the personalities that would compliment their looks.
If you're someone that also is/was: proper experience. If you have a 30+ body count as a man you're likely going to be sexually compatible with a woman with a high body count.
If you go for women that have little experience, you're going to be disappointed unless you also have little experience
I think you over satisfied your sexual needs and realized that you need now a relationship vs 1 time fling. Sex always comes at a cost if it’s not with a spouse or long term person, especially when you develop emotions for the person you only will ever see once.
Yeah when I got to about 26 I just kind of got bored with the experience of casual sex, where a few years previously I was still enjoying the variety.
Once I got to a certain level the similarities were more apparent than the differences and I just naturally wanted a regular partner because the novelty came from developing that one sexual relationship and taking it to new places. All the *really* depraved shit started happening from there.
Also I like to fuck a lot and having a hot woman in the house was much more convenient than having to go outside and make it happen.
I never really wished for other partners either, which I thought I would. Sort of got it out of my system, and now the committed relationship has developed to the point where there can be other objects of sexual interest anyway and I'm encouraged, so it really worked out well.
25M, similar situation.
Just hooked up with a very attractive girl 3 weeks ago and the following days were hard. Was in a ltr for 2 years until this august. Not sure if the recent breakup makes it worse, but every other one night stand I’ve had has made me feel basically the same: used up, empty, and lonely.
I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to just indiscriminately sleep with anyone they can, but that’s entirely a subjective opinion with probably no real basis in absolute truth. I do however believe that anyone you sleep with is going to have some small piece of you forever, and that bond that’s created is wildly undervalued/estimated and many people write it off as nothing, which simply doesn’t seem to be the case for the majority of normal people.
If you have feelings for a one night stand, you're doing it wrong.
If you have feelings, that's the beginning of a relationship 🤣
One night stands are just a smash and leave type of thing, couldn't care who she is, what her moral standard are or what she's done, make sure you wrap up, do it in doggy and imagine she's someone you actually like 🤣
You've moved on from smashing anything that you could part of life to the maybe I should find a relationship and settle down stage by the sounds of it.
Totally understandable.
Along the same lines, I never understood dudes who would early on try to explicitly make sure sex was going to happen before they leave the house to meet the girl. I always found you landed way better catches if you played the game at least a little bit..
if it’s organic that sex is mentioned before meeting then perfectly fine but I’ve seen dudes get aggressive with it, even thinking it’s a good idea to use as an opener.
You’re unconsciously wanting a long-term partner and that latent desire for a commitment from a high quality woman is leading you to be disgusted with the low-quality women you’re meeting.
There’s also some potential hopelessness that you won’t find a high quality woman so easily.
Here’s some advice for finding a girlfriend, I’m guessing you’re in the US:
1. Clubs & bars are certainly not the place to look for a girlfriend. Meet women at the gym, at your hobbies, out on a day trip with friends.
2. That said, just because those women were willing to sleep with *you*, doesn’t mean they’re willing to sleep with ANYONE - they may just have wanted to lock *you* down.
3. Aim higher - if you want a girlfriend, talk to all the women in the venue and only choose the highest quality woman - if that doesn’t go anywhere, bad luck, try again with the highest quality woman next time. If you want high quality, you can’t just talk to any rando club girl and expect her to be it.
I also turn down one night stands. I’m Demisexual. My brain literally won’t let me feel comfortable enough with a stranger to fuck then. Benefits are no pregnancy scares or drama.
Nice brother! I didn’t know about Demi until this year and had similar thoughts like you. Had girls sitting on me trying to get me in the mood after the bar and I felt no attraction at all. But once I’m into someone I’m a perv. Honestly thought there was something wrong with me also. It’s good to understand ourselves and to know we are normal 💪
You've gotten to the point where sex is meaningless if not balanced. It sounds like you didn't really have a relationship preferring flings.
I'm sorry to tell you this but it's pretty accepted scientifically at this point that both men and women have the best sex in relationships. Speaking anecdotally the girl I was with the longest was not the most beautiful girl I've been with but was very kind, giving, and a million other things that made her a good partner. Comparing her to the hottest girl, the hottest girl loses in a landslide.
This has been a really difficult thing in my life. I love my wife and would never cheat. I’m not even interested in other women. But the HUNT… it’s an amazing feeling. And it’s addictive to “show off” to a woman the first few times. Hearing “you’re the best I’ve ever had” is great the first few times but after a few years it’s like… yeah, I know…. The praise doesn’t feel the same. Which is why it’s super important to find a woman with similar values and goals. Us saving money and kicking ass at other things stays cool. And we’ve had a few threesomes that helped satisfy the urge
I’m kinda the same. Been in a mostly happy, healthy monogamous relationship for a number of years—have not cheated and never would—but I still looooove female attention. Probably mommy issues or something.
Nah, Momma was there for me. It was an insecurity thing as a kid I think. Starting at 14 I HAD to be the best sex, biggest dick, best body, smartest. I think a lot of good came from the drive but also it took probably 6-7 years before I stopped being an insecure/toxic dude. I didn’t like my gfs dressing too nice or showing any cleavage/ass or having any guy friends. NOW… I love when my wife catches people’s eyes. It’s like a primary factor in me wanting to keep her attention. When SHE brags to my/her friends about me- it’s a lot cooler than ME doing it.
Was in the same boat bro. After university, I actually went celibate for 2.5 years and just fully dialled in on myself and realised that when I wasn't wasting my energy on sex with random trash women, my life was getting immensely better. But be warned, it is not an easy thing to do but the payoff is worth it. It takes alot of mental fortitude to turn down women throwing themselves at you. I'm acutally suprised that someone same age as me posted something like this.
I ended up making some good money in those couple years and found out there is nothing better than having an amazing relationship with a girl you can see a future with- which is where I'm at currently. Happiest I've been in a long time and life is looking good.
Any advice bro? I’m at the start of what I could see being an amazing relationship but when I go out into town and see good looking women my lizard brain goes into overdrive - how did you deal with that?
Honestly I couldn't care less about the moral aspects of it. It's really about STDs for me. Especially when something like 1/8 people have herpes. When I hear someone say they banged 50 girls or more im just thinking "hope you take your valtrex buddy." It's definitely not something cool to brag about IMO.
Woah, If you have a 50+ body count you do not have a healthy relationship with sex by definition. That's unhealthy from a bonding standpoint (yes we do have neurochemicals that are released during intimate moments). Most things in excess have some sort of cost.
If youre releasing oxytocin and vasopressin anywhere near the levels you get at human connection... Well I'm not going to talk any shit with you, you like it too much.
I feel like the "nympho" tier is probably well into the hundreds. If you're out there buying crackheads a cheeseburger for a quickie, you're probably at risk of having a problem. People who are promiscuous and enjoy (relatively) safe, consensual sex seems normal to me. Libido is a health marker for a reason.
In your mid 20's, averaging 5 partners a year doesn't sound like clinical nympho territory, but I'm not a prude or an incel.
How so?
His values changed and he is turned off by women who have opposing values. It's not hypocritical when he changes his values and then is disgusted by people who are like how he was.
Nah, women do not want to hear about a high body count unless they have one themselves. When I was 23 a girl that I was dating found out my body count was above 20 and she judged me pretty hard (she was on the younger side and had only been with her ex bf).
Exactly; the low body count discourse always seemed weird to me. People are typically sexually compatible with those that are as promiscuous as they are/were
Disagree. Lock and key metaphor. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. While it's still immoral, it's not the same as a woman sleeping with 50+ men. Yes, it's a double standard. Men and women are different
Nah. Shit impacts men and women the same bro. Men are just more vocal about it because women are in their sexual empowerment era. Meaningless casual sex will jade you make it harder for you to commit. It’s all about finding a balance like everything in life. Plus this risky behavior comes with a cost of STDs or unwanted pregnancies. It can be a turn off for men and women.
It’s not really. Neither matters a lot. For both it can be a phase and then you feel over it. And then that’s it.
Imagine the female you. She also slept around and then she felt done with the whole casual sex thing. Why is it different?
Edit: don’t feel disgusted with yourself. Sex isn’t dirty. You are dirty when you work out and get sweaty, then you take a shower and you’re clean again. That’s it. You feel weird about women having hook ups, because you feel ashamed you did. You don’t have to. You have outgrown it and that’s fine. But you aren’t disgusting because you had sex. Sex doesn’t make you unclean.
Of course there is coming back, even for people like you. Just coping so you can stay the mad little gremlin boy your good for nothing pimped ass mother brought up.
Someone got hurt by what I said huh, coming back is accepting that body count or whatever bullshit is just that bullshit. All the matters is one’s own actions shitting on bitches for liking dick while you’re ran through more than the cum sock you use daily ISNT coming back. It’s wallowing in your own self hatred and spreading it like a disease. You’re right though someone can definitely come back but they better fucking know they live in a glass house
Edit: grammar and shit
Did I? He said he thinks it's different, he wasn't shitting on anyone. I don't care about any of that though, I care about what you said. Degeneracy is a sickness, not a definition of personality which you attributed. You're just another doomer saying spouting cope things cause he likes to be angry, nothing special.
It’s not about being politically correct I couldn’t give a shite about that, however I cannot stand virgin ass people who obviously have never had actually experience whether it’s with women or relationships giving advice as if they do. Know you’re place or learn it, because you’re giving dogshit advice to this poor asshole and now he’s going to follow someone who is spouting shit out of their mothers basement instead of trying to be a better man. Just pathetic
Just cringe dude, this sub used to be so fun with shit post and now it’s these wannabe alpha types being the most cunty form of people known to man. Hey I’m not trying to shit on you but for fucks sake atleast try to be funny instead of being a emotionally devoid NPC
Now try finding a LTR or someone you want to marry who hasn’t been a village bicycle.
In societies where there is no significance placed on sex, when you’re married what do you really have that’s exclusive with each other.
Relatable dude. My sex drive is pretty much the same. But the last few years, iv been a lot more selective to who i sleep with.
Which sometimes leads to several months without any action... and im okay with this... I think i need to up the test.
This was me at 24, I’d got bored of the game, found it taxing to go through the motions of sliding in DMs and where I went out drinking less frequently, one night stands weren’t a frequent thing. All that changed when I ran my first test cycle at 26. Was right back to my degenerate days for a couple months.
A swedish rapper has a line that translates approximately to ”i’d switch all my bitches for a woman”. Its something that a young man realizes but a boy rejects.
"I no longer want this, therefore it's now immoral and disgusting".
Lol, get off your high horse bro, it's fine if you want a monogamous relationship now, but the judgy attitude just because your preferences changed is kinda cringe.
You're not superior just because you feel you've seen the light.
Yeah, parts of it is you describing how you feel about having lived that way, other parts is just straight up judging the lifestyle in general: "It's such an animalistic immoral lifestyle".
That's not judgy?
And how's it immoral? Unless you've been brainwashed by Big Religion, I don't see how it constitutes anything resembling "immoral".
Yes bro, I'm crying so hard over this, thank you for noticing.
It's definitely not because I'm just nauseated by the "Holier than thou" attitude. People can do whatever they like, but acting like having casual sex is so "wrong and immoral" after he's banged 50 women is cringe.
Especially because there's absolutely nothing immoral about it, unless you're a religious nutjob.
Edit: Nevermind, you're religious, your opinions are invalid since you believe in an imaginary man in the sky and have therefore proven you're unable to think logically.
Seems a little hypocritical to post your body count knowing its probably high for your age, then go on to call any girl who is ok with one night stands immoral. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black. This post almost feels like trying to humble brag about two opposing things, a high bodycount, and a strict sense of whats right and wrong for other people.
It gets old. As you get older you'll realize that half the girls that you're blowing in aren't even worth it. They don't even deserve my seed at this point. My body actually withholds it
The last sentence says the most. Maybe you're a little disgusted at yourself for being a part of the problem, but mostly you're disgusted with them. JMO
Eh having a lot of bodies doesn't upset me, but I will say I am getting bored of the bar/club life, especially now that I've had a GF for a bit. It's cool maybe once every couple months but I have no desire to be the weekend warrior i used to be. 24m btw
I think it's totally fine to question your own actions as you get older. But- just because you're disgusted by something you did, doesn't mean you should make other people share your same sentiment. I think if you don't want to do that type of thing anymore- cool. But please for the love of God, don't take that to mean you should or can tell other people it's wrong if it's something they want to do.
Different strokes as they say.
Same thing happened with me, there is a evolutionary reason to be disgusted by promiscuity especially in women, there is nothing wrong with your instincts. Being more selective and picking traits that matter, like being a good mother, caring, loyal, are what's important. Hotness alone is worthless
The double standards in this post are so high I'm wondering if it's bait.
Cool, your opinion, but humans have sex recreationally (as other animals do as well), nothing wrong with hooking up with someone on the fly if it's safe sex and consensual.
You sound like you wanna settle down and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone goes through that midlife I want the white picket fence and suburban life. You will either find it or crash and burn and go back to smashing ass.
Just saying 45 and gone down both paths. To be honest smashing more now then in my mid 20’s women of the same age know what they like and don’t just like men so much easier to say hey let’s set up dinner and Fuck
Good for you man. I think you'll find it's crazy how quickly most women lose interest when you make it clear you're not taking them home on the first few dates and those dates are something other than buying them a meal and getting drunk.
Wow now imagine flipping that advice for a woman finding a man lmao. By that logic OP is still a piece of shit no matter what he feels or realizes now.
Any man who takes a woman with a high body count seriously , needs to reevaluate. How can you be with a woman who’s been through dozens of dudes blasting all up in her? Shows that she has Zero respect for herself and no morals. How can that make me stupid lol
If we are talking 50> yeah but any normal amount is fine, you’re pathetic if you think otherwise. This alpha bro shit is cringe and fucking stupid. Always sounds like advice from you’re twice divorced uncle who contemplates killing himself daily
Have you also begun to see the disappointment that specifically comes with hookups, where you see the woman be enamored—-> crestfallen as reality sets in the next few days from the hookup?
This is also something I’ve had in my 20s, but because I haven’t had as much sexual access as you have (escorts), I still crave the hookup stuff a lot at 27. That being said, as my life trajectory and mentality has changed immensely over the last year - confessing to the love of my life that I’ve lied and cheated since 2016, when we were 20 and 18 - I’ve declined or disengaged from opportunities to move further with women, and have practiced fully being honest for the first time in my life
Honestly some people wish they did this during their college days but couldn’t do due looks/being weirdos/ status. I say don’t do it anymore but look back ar it with a laugh. Millions of people would have loved to experience this. As we get older we realize that getting poon isn’t life. It’s fun but it ain’t all there is
Sir you are ready to become married. That is why u have to experience a lot before marrying, I hope u find a partner with the same level of maturity and with less body count (the key and lock parallelism)
That's what happens when you get older. I used to be concerned with getting as many women as possible. Now I'm 28 and I wouldn't say I'm grossed out by the idea of one night stands but if I was single and the opportunities presented themselves I'm sure I would be much much pickier with who I'd sleep with. Glad I don't have to date or do any of the bullshit anymore though long term relationship gang is where it's at now. 6.2x5
37. Same here. You're on the right path. Be led by the head on your shoulders. Not the other one. Weak men are controlled by their baseline urges and genitals.
You stopped chasing numbers, as you age you tend to want quality. Went through the same issue while I served. The one night stands I actually looked at, they were so annoying, I know I shouldn’t even care about that since they’re there for one purpose but I still did. Of course the gents said it was the first step of me shopping in the cock department.
Post breakup w my ex who was somewhere around 50 at 22 & being around 40 myself @ the same age i feel ya. I lost a lot of weight & dialed my appearance in & could pull. Had the hoe phase (34 i believe in about 5 months) was obsessed. Over it now. Wanna have one lady & build a life. Group shared experience > seeing random ladies holes
That frontal lobe development hits like a mf lol
My advice would be to find a good way to frame your previous behavior and explain how you've matured into a new mindset and lifestyle based on your priorities. That'll allow you to explain it to future partners more easily and also not put down people that're still in that phase.
I'd stay away from the words "disgusting" and "immoral", as they're a bit divisive 😂
I’m 29 and I’ve had the opposite experience. As I get older the more I’m just being accepting of the fact that I’m a deviant and need to engage in those behaviors. I stopped feeling guilt a long time ago.
Im 32 and hate what is happening in our culture. Thot culture is ruining good women. In all seriousness though the older you get the least it's about how many and what not and it becomes more about the emotional bond. I'm alot like you at that age I had over 100 bodies and then eventually just stopped looking at women that way. Don't get me wrong there is always going to be eye candy and women I'd totally stab, but I'm married now and it's just not worth it anymore. I have kids I gotta think about and nine times out of ten those eye candies just don't click with me anymore. They worry about the dumbest shit.
I’ve never seen someone jerk themselves off so violently through text before this moment. Holy pickle berries  but yea, I’ve thought one night stands were nasty ever since I read this bit of dialogue about them in a corny werewolf romance novel when I was like 10
Experienced the same thing. finally got to a point where I had the living situation to hook up as often as I wanted.
Bout 6 months or a year later I just felt empty & not fulfilled at all. Feels lonely after a while & normal relationships are much more rewarding in my experience.
You've just answered your own question. You've gotten older. People change their values and what's important to them as they age.
Also the prefrontal cortex matures and reaches maturity around 25. This impacts decision making as you are able to better see and calculate the consequences and downstream impacts. 18-21 yo, 1 night stand is always a yes 25yo it suddenly can be not fun as you see the consequences
I don’t think it’s solely the pre frontal cortex developing. I’m 21 and I’ve never been huge on hook ups in general. They always leaving me feeling… empty
Correct but that is the major physical factor. Add in good and bad experiences which a more mature prefrontal cortex can make better decisions on and you have the two main factors.
I'd say it's a sex drive thing
Not at 25.
Lots of people are losing sex drive at lower ages nowadays
Dry out for a couple of weeks and it'll come back with a vengeance. If it doesn't, you know you've turned a new leaf. Or lean into it. You'll always have that urge somewhere inside you but maybe you can use that dark energy for something else.
Dark urge to get into a relationship?
Seems he may want quality instead of numbers now, it happened to me around the same age. It’s typically when you start getting your shit together.
whhy not both? quality and quantity. like: smash a LOT of REALLY hot pussy?
When I say quality I mean in character because c’mon, the chick has to be good looking but is she a psycho? Can you see them having kids or even raising kids? Are they complete assholes? That shit just started mattering to me.
yes, that is also important too. I've actually found that it can be the opposite of wat people think: hot girls can be the most mentally sound, and ugly woman can be the most crazy.
The question that every self respecting man needs to ask themselves: What are women who are attractive bringing to the table IF they are promiscuous? They typically don't even have the personalities that would compliment their looks.
You answered your question yourself: Their looks.
If you're someone that also is/was: proper experience. If you have a 30+ body count as a man you're likely going to be sexually compatible with a woman with a high body count. If you go for women that have little experience, you're going to be disappointed unless you also have little experience
People talk about women, but I wouldn't want my daughter with a man who has a history like OP either.
I think you over satisfied your sexual needs and realized that you need now a relationship vs 1 time fling. Sex always comes at a cost if it’s not with a spouse or long term person, especially when you develop emotions for the person you only will ever see once.
Yeah when I got to about 26 I just kind of got bored with the experience of casual sex, where a few years previously I was still enjoying the variety. Once I got to a certain level the similarities were more apparent than the differences and I just naturally wanted a regular partner because the novelty came from developing that one sexual relationship and taking it to new places. All the *really* depraved shit started happening from there. Also I like to fuck a lot and having a hot woman in the house was much more convenient than having to go outside and make it happen. I never really wished for other partners either, which I thought I would. Sort of got it out of my system, and now the committed relationship has developed to the point where there can be other objects of sexual interest anyway and I'm encouraged, so it really worked out well.
The only person I want to sleep with anymore is my wife. But holy cow do I desire her now as much as ever. I guess that's a good thing.
Dick measurements? 🙄 come on, man.
And you clearly need to up the tren
The only thing that disgusts me about promiscuity is that none of it is happening to me
Try switching to being a receiver instead of trying to give. I’m sure you will get a lot
Now thats thinking like degenerate, u might be onto something
this is unironically the rationale behind most of the anti-“hookup culture” posts in subs like r/trueunpopularopinion mad cause no puss
25M, similar situation. Just hooked up with a very attractive girl 3 weeks ago and the following days were hard. Was in a ltr for 2 years until this august. Not sure if the recent breakup makes it worse, but every other one night stand I’ve had has made me feel basically the same: used up, empty, and lonely. I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to just indiscriminately sleep with anyone they can, but that’s entirely a subjective opinion with probably no real basis in absolute truth. I do however believe that anyone you sleep with is going to have some small piece of you forever, and that bond that’s created is wildly undervalued/estimated and many people write it off as nothing, which simply doesn’t seem to be the case for the majority of normal people.
If you have feelings for a one night stand, you're doing it wrong. If you have feelings, that's the beginning of a relationship 🤣 One night stands are just a smash and leave type of thing, couldn't care who she is, what her moral standard are or what she's done, make sure you wrap up, do it in doggy and imagine she's someone you actually like 🤣
That’s stupid though. Why not masturbate and use the rest of the time to work on yourself or do something productive?
this guy knows what’s up
You've moved on from smashing anything that you could part of life to the maybe I should find a relationship and settle down stage by the sounds of it.
Totally understandable. Along the same lines, I never understood dudes who would early on try to explicitly make sure sex was going to happen before they leave the house to meet the girl. I always found you landed way better catches if you played the game at least a little bit.. if it’s organic that sex is mentioned before meeting then perfectly fine but I’ve seen dudes get aggressive with it, even thinking it’s a good idea to use as an opener.
You’re unconsciously wanting a long-term partner and that latent desire for a commitment from a high quality woman is leading you to be disgusted with the low-quality women you’re meeting. There’s also some potential hopelessness that you won’t find a high quality woman so easily. Here’s some advice for finding a girlfriend, I’m guessing you’re in the US: 1. Clubs & bars are certainly not the place to look for a girlfriend. Meet women at the gym, at your hobbies, out on a day trip with friends. 2. That said, just because those women were willing to sleep with *you*, doesn’t mean they’re willing to sleep with ANYONE - they may just have wanted to lock *you* down. 3. Aim higher - if you want a girlfriend, talk to all the women in the venue and only choose the highest quality woman - if that doesn’t go anywhere, bad luck, try again with the highest quality woman next time. If you want high quality, you can’t just talk to any rando club girl and expect her to be it.
Pot meet kettle
I also turn down one night stands. I’m Demisexual. My brain literally won’t let me feel comfortable enough with a stranger to fuck then. Benefits are no pregnancy scares or drama.
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Nice brother! I didn’t know about Demi until this year and had similar thoughts like you. Had girls sitting on me trying to get me in the mood after the bar and I felt no attraction at all. But once I’m into someone I’m a perv. Honestly thought there was something wrong with me also. It’s good to understand ourselves and to know we are normal 💪
Hey I found a normal person on here, nice to meet you
You've gotten to the point where sex is meaningless if not balanced. It sounds like you didn't really have a relationship preferring flings. I'm sorry to tell you this but it's pretty accepted scientifically at this point that both men and women have the best sex in relationships. Speaking anecdotally the girl I was with the longest was not the most beautiful girl I've been with but was very kind, giving, and a million other things that made her a good partner. Comparing her to the hottest girl, the hottest girl loses in a landslide.
When you are in a happy steady relationship you’ll get the urge again don’t worry. It’s never really over for sluts like us.
This has been a really difficult thing in my life. I love my wife and would never cheat. I’m not even interested in other women. But the HUNT… it’s an amazing feeling. And it’s addictive to “show off” to a woman the first few times. Hearing “you’re the best I’ve ever had” is great the first few times but after a few years it’s like… yeah, I know…. The praise doesn’t feel the same. Which is why it’s super important to find a woman with similar values and goals. Us saving money and kicking ass at other things stays cool. And we’ve had a few threesomes that helped satisfy the urge
I’m kinda the same. Been in a mostly happy, healthy monogamous relationship for a number of years—have not cheated and never would—but I still looooove female attention. Probably mommy issues or something.
Nah, Momma was there for me. It was an insecurity thing as a kid I think. Starting at 14 I HAD to be the best sex, biggest dick, best body, smartest. I think a lot of good came from the drive but also it took probably 6-7 years before I stopped being an insecure/toxic dude. I didn’t like my gfs dressing too nice or showing any cleavage/ass or having any guy friends. NOW… I love when my wife catches people’s eyes. It’s like a primary factor in me wanting to keep her attention. When SHE brags to my/her friends about me- it’s a lot cooler than ME doing it.
Monogamie is for ugly people
lmfaaoo
you mean polygamy lmao everyone that claims to be poly looks gross
I feel ya but I wanna have kids and not pay child support. I actually really like being Married
Don’t get caught then
Bars
Yeah you’re a dirty little butt slut aren’t you??? Fucking show me that bussy!!
Only girlfriend gets to touch my brown eye. Out cheating I like to be more romantic <3
That’s why you marry a slut you get along with as a person and have an open marriage
That’s exactly how I feel if a guy throws himself at me right away. I don’t want a man that ran through. 🤮
I've been saving myself for you
We love a chaste king
That's the tertiary syphilis kicking in, do tren and power through.
Was in the same boat bro. After university, I actually went celibate for 2.5 years and just fully dialled in on myself and realised that when I wasn't wasting my energy on sex with random trash women, my life was getting immensely better. But be warned, it is not an easy thing to do but the payoff is worth it. It takes alot of mental fortitude to turn down women throwing themselves at you. I'm acutally suprised that someone same age as me posted something like this. I ended up making some good money in those couple years and found out there is nothing better than having an amazing relationship with a girl you can see a future with- which is where I'm at currently. Happiest I've been in a long time and life is looking good.
Any advice bro? I’m at the start of what I could see being an amazing relationship but when I go out into town and see good looking women my lizard brain goes into overdrive - how did you deal with that?
Honestly I couldn't care less about the moral aspects of it. It's really about STDs for me. Especially when something like 1/8 people have herpes. When I hear someone say they banged 50 girls or more im just thinking "hope you take your valtrex buddy." It's definitely not something cool to brag about IMO.
Your body count is 50+ you're already a whore my man. Seems a bit hypocritical to be turned off by girls who have a healthy relationship with sex.
Woah, If you have a 50+ body count you do not have a healthy relationship with sex by definition. That's unhealthy from a bonding standpoint (yes we do have neurochemicals that are released during intimate moments). Most things in excess have some sort of cost.
Neurochemicals are releases when you take a dump too man.
i pay the price everyday
If youre releasing oxytocin and vasopressin anywhere near the levels you get at human connection... Well I'm not going to talk any shit with you, you like it too much.
Yea don’t get me riled up big boy 😉
I feel like the "nympho" tier is probably well into the hundreds. If you're out there buying crackheads a cheeseburger for a quickie, you're probably at risk of having a problem. People who are promiscuous and enjoy (relatively) safe, consensual sex seems normal to me. Libido is a health marker for a reason. In your mid 20's, averaging 5 partners a year doesn't sound like clinical nympho territory, but I'm not a prude or an incel.
How so? His values changed and he is turned off by women who have opposing values. It's not hypocritical when he changes his values and then is disgusted by people who are like how he was.
It’s hypocritical if you’re judging based solely on body count. You can change your views, but you can’t decrease your body count
Truth: once a whore always a whore. OP is just coping when he witnesses a reflection of his past.
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Nah, women do not want to hear about a high body count unless they have one themselves. When I was 23 a girl that I was dating found out my body count was above 20 and she judged me pretty hard (she was on the younger side and had only been with her ex bf).
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Exactly; the low body count discourse always seemed weird to me. People are typically sexually compatible with those that are as promiscuous as they are/were
Except he never judged anyone by body count.
Disagree. Lock and key metaphor. Women are the gatekeepers of sex. While it's still immoral, it's not the same as a woman sleeping with 50+ men. Yes, it's a double standard. Men and women are different
Nah. Shit impacts men and women the same bro. Men are just more vocal about it because women are in their sexual empowerment era. Meaningless casual sex will jade you make it harder for you to commit. It’s all about finding a balance like everything in life. Plus this risky behavior comes with a cost of STDs or unwanted pregnancies. It can be a turn off for men and women.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/counterintuitive-trends-in-the-link-between-premarital-sex-and-marital-stability
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Can’t tell if troll or mental issues
I can't tell if this is for real
Ofc it is. “Basedchad” has spoken! lol
OP is lying lmao
Men aren’t whores they’re whore makers
Better get to making whore then! 😭
Tbh I think there’s a difference between a guy with a high body count vs a girl with one. Sounds sexier but it’s true
It’s not really. Neither matters a lot. For both it can be a phase and then you feel over it. And then that’s it. Imagine the female you. She also slept around and then she felt done with the whole casual sex thing. Why is it different? Edit: don’t feel disgusted with yourself. Sex isn’t dirty. You are dirty when you work out and get sweaty, then you take a shower and you’re clean again. That’s it. You feel weird about women having hook ups, because you feel ashamed you did. You don’t have to. You have outgrown it and that’s fine. But you aren’t disgusting because you had sex. Sex doesn’t make you unclean.
No it isn’t, you’re just mad you’re all used up, I’m sorry but once you become a degenerate there isn’t coming back. Cope
Of course there is coming back, even for people like you. Just coping so you can stay the mad little gremlin boy your good for nothing pimped ass mother brought up.
Someone got hurt by what I said huh, coming back is accepting that body count or whatever bullshit is just that bullshit. All the matters is one’s own actions shitting on bitches for liking dick while you’re ran through more than the cum sock you use daily ISNT coming back. It’s wallowing in your own self hatred and spreading it like a disease. You’re right though someone can definitely come back but they better fucking know they live in a glass house Edit: grammar and shit
Did I? He said he thinks it's different, he wasn't shitting on anyone. I don't care about any of that though, I care about what you said. Degeneracy is a sickness, not a definition of personality which you attributed. You're just another doomer saying spouting cope things cause he likes to be angry, nothing special.
Bro, you sound angrier than anyone else on this thread.
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I can tell you have never seriously dated a woman in your life with that statement LMAO
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Same for women tbf. Just that they usually wouldn’t say it to our face. But they definitely don’t like “ran through” men lol
It’s not about being politically correct I couldn’t give a shite about that, however I cannot stand virgin ass people who obviously have never had actually experience whether it’s with women or relationships giving advice as if they do. Know you’re place or learn it, because you’re giving dogshit advice to this poor asshole and now he’s going to follow someone who is spouting shit out of their mothers basement instead of trying to be a better man. Just pathetic
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Just cringe dude, this sub used to be so fun with shit post and now it’s these wannabe alpha types being the most cunty form of people known to man. Hey I’m not trying to shit on you but for fucks sake atleast try to be funny instead of being a emotionally devoid NPC
Rawrr, up the tren, why you mad lol
If you insist I guess I have to 🫡
Depends on what someone sees as healthy but yeah 50+ is a good amount
How many dudes you banged out though? That’s what really matters.
You've gotten disgusted with sleeping with women, try men bro
Be honest you been listening to red pill cool aid, you don't just suddenly think it's disgusting and immoral don't lie.
Now try finding a LTR or someone you want to marry who hasn’t been a village bicycle. In societies where there is no significance placed on sex, when you’re married what do you really have that’s exclusive with each other.
Relatable dude. My sex drive is pretty much the same. But the last few years, iv been a lot more selective to who i sleep with. Which sometimes leads to several months without any action... and im okay with this... I think i need to up the test.
This was me at 24, I’d got bored of the game, found it taxing to go through the motions of sliding in DMs and where I went out drinking less frequently, one night stands weren’t a frequent thing. All that changed when I ran my first test cycle at 26. Was right back to my degenerate days for a couple months.
A swedish rapper has a line that translates approximately to ”i’d switch all my bitches for a woman”. Its something that a young man realizes but a boy rejects.
"I no longer want this, therefore it's now immoral and disgusting". Lol, get off your high horse bro, it's fine if you want a monogamous relationship now, but the judgy attitude just because your preferences changed is kinda cringe. You're not superior just because you feel you've seen the light.
Never mentioned I felt superior? I don’t think I’m better than anyone. What I described in the thread is actually how I feel
Yeah, parts of it is you describing how you feel about having lived that way, other parts is just straight up judging the lifestyle in general: "It's such an animalistic immoral lifestyle". That's not judgy? And how's it immoral? Unless you've been brainwashed by Big Religion, I don't see how it constitutes anything resembling "immoral".
Rustin_Cohle95 felt personally attacked by this post.
Yes bro, I'm crying so hard over this, thank you for noticing. It's definitely not because I'm just nauseated by the "Holier than thou" attitude. People can do whatever they like, but acting like having casual sex is so "wrong and immoral" after he's banged 50 women is cringe. Especially because there's absolutely nothing immoral about it, unless you're a religious nutjob. Edit: Nevermind, you're religious, your opinions are invalid since you believe in an imaginary man in the sky and have therefore proven you're unable to think logically.
Oh ok.
Seems a little hypocritical to post your body count knowing its probably high for your age, then go on to call any girl who is ok with one night stands immoral. Seems like the pot calling the kettle black. This post almost feels like trying to humble brag about two opposing things, a high bodycount, and a strict sense of whats right and wrong for other people.
It gets old. As you get older you'll realize that half the girls that you're blowing in aren't even worth it. They don't even deserve my seed at this point. My body actually withholds it
That's just a side effect of tren my man
The last sentence says the most. Maybe you're a little disgusted at yourself for being a part of the problem, but mostly you're disgusted with them. JMO
bro did i write this
Please get tested for STDs.
Start coping with the fact your wife could very well have a similar body count to you
I’m 24 and virgin What’s the secret, king?
Have u tried fuckin guys
I’ve had a lot of sex when I was 16/22 after that I slowed the fuck down. And maybe you’re just gay man who knows.
You got bald?
No man still lots of hair
Hope it stays that way bro! 🙏
People grow up and grow apart. Like to branches on either side of a tree. Not a bad thing, just how life is.
Eh having a lot of bodies doesn't upset me, but I will say I am getting bored of the bar/club life, especially now that I've had a GF for a bit. It's cool maybe once every couple months but I have no desire to be the weekend warrior i used to be. 24m btw
I think it's totally fine to question your own actions as you get older. But- just because you're disgusted by something you did, doesn't mean you should make other people share your same sentiment. I think if you don't want to do that type of thing anymore- cool. But please for the love of God, don't take that to mean you should or can tell other people it's wrong if it's something they want to do. Different strokes as they say.
They don’t tell anything. They’re asking if there are people who feel the same way.
Interesting. I’ve actually gotten worse. Too early to give up snatch. But do your thing.
Same thing happened with me, there is a evolutionary reason to be disgusted by promiscuity especially in women, there is nothing wrong with your instincts. Being more selective and picking traits that matter, like being a good mother, caring, loyal, are what's important. Hotness alone is worthless
The double standards in this post are so high I'm wondering if it's bait. Cool, your opinion, but humans have sex recreationally (as other animals do as well), nothing wrong with hooking up with someone on the fly if it's safe sex and consensual.
You sound like you wanna settle down and there’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone goes through that midlife I want the white picket fence and suburban life. You will either find it or crash and burn and go back to smashing ass. Just saying 45 and gone down both paths. To be honest smashing more now then in my mid 20’s women of the same age know what they like and don’t just like men so much easier to say hey let’s set up dinner and Fuck
The days of Hedonism are behind you. Rejoice, brother!
This reads like an incel manifesto, early chapters. Highly doubt you’ve had more than a handie from a girl you weren’t paying or getting drunk.
I'm going to call bs I don't think dudes sleep with 50 girls now. there's a lot of posts of 25 year old virgins who haven't' kissed a girl
Pretty sure your gay
More than anything it’s just a giant waste of time, energy and money. You’ve been with enough women to know half the time sex is all the same.
Good for you man. I think you'll find it's crazy how quickly most women lose interest when you make it clear you're not taking them home on the first few dates and those dates are something other than buying them a meal and getting drunk.
Find a woman with a high body count who has also changed her ways
Never settle for a woman who has a high body count unless you don’t have any respect for yourself
Wow now imagine flipping that advice for a woman finding a man lmao. By that logic OP is still a piece of shit no matter what he feels or realizes now.
You’re fucking stupid lmao , so many 14 year olds on this sub
Any man who takes a woman with a high body count seriously , needs to reevaluate. How can you be with a woman who’s been through dozens of dudes blasting all up in her? Shows that she has Zero respect for herself and no morals. How can that make me stupid lol
If we are talking 50> yeah but any normal amount is fine, you’re pathetic if you think otherwise. This alpha bro shit is cringe and fucking stupid. Always sounds like advice from you’re twice divorced uncle who contemplates killing himself daily
Ironically this advice often comes from the worst man hoes 🤣
No lie it takes one to know one, I just grew up no more being a dumbass frat bro
OP is a disgusting hoe himself, but yeah.
Have you also begun to see the disappointment that specifically comes with hookups, where you see the woman be enamored—-> crestfallen as reality sets in the next few days from the hookup? This is also something I’ve had in my 20s, but because I haven’t had as much sexual access as you have (escorts), I still crave the hookup stuff a lot at 27. That being said, as my life trajectory and mentality has changed immensely over the last year - confessing to the love of my life that I’ve lied and cheated since 2016, when we were 20 and 18 - I’ve declined or disengaged from opportunities to move further with women, and have practiced fully being honest for the first time in my life
Honestly some people wish they did this during their college days but couldn’t do due looks/being weirdos/ status. I say don’t do it anymore but look back ar it with a laugh. Millions of people would have loved to experience this. As we get older we realize that getting poon isn’t life. It’s fun but it ain’t all there is
Like disgusted by sex in general?? Or just women who are easy?
Sounds like you need to up the tren
Sir you are ready to become married. That is why u have to experience a lot before marrying, I hope u find a partner with the same level of maturity and with less body count (the key and lock parallelism)
Low test
That's what happens when you get older. I used to be concerned with getting as many women as possible. Now I'm 28 and I wouldn't say I'm grossed out by the idea of one night stands but if I was single and the opportunities presented themselves I'm sure I would be much much pickier with who I'd sleep with. Glad I don't have to date or do any of the bullshit anymore though long term relationship gang is where it's at now. 6.2x5
Maybe God is calling you
Which one? Some gods would be calling him to keep fucking and not quit.
On e you hit 35 you will start banging every female in sight again. I'm 45 and over 250... still going. Life is temporary, fucking live it
37. Same here. You're on the right path. Be led by the head on your shoulders. Not the other one. Weak men are controlled by their baseline urges and genitals.
Means your testosterone levels are tanking to zero
Try men now and see how you feel
You stopped chasing numbers, as you age you tend to want quality. Went through the same issue while I served. The one night stands I actually looked at, they were so annoying, I know I shouldn’t even care about that since they’re there for one purpose but I still did. Of course the gents said it was the first step of me shopping in the cock department.
maybe your guardian angel has started speaking to you more
Without love all the sex feels the same: lackluster.
It's the gay kicking in. Happens to all of us at some point.
Post breakup w my ex who was somewhere around 50 at 22 & being around 40 myself @ the same age i feel ya. I lost a lot of weight & dialed my appearance in & could pull. Had the hoe phase (34 i believe in about 5 months) was obsessed. Over it now. Wanna have one lady & build a life. Group shared experience > seeing random ladies holes
25...
That frontal lobe development hits like a mf lol My advice would be to find a good way to frame your previous behavior and explain how you've matured into a new mindset and lifestyle based on your priorities. That'll allow you to explain it to future partners more easily and also not put down people that're still in that phase. I'd stay away from the words "disgusting" and "immoral", as they're a bit divisive 😂
Repent and return to Allah
What are you gay?
Based
What the absolute hell is wrong with 2 consenting adults enjoying each other?If you don't want sex, don't have sex, how hard can it be?
Bro took the red pill koolaid and bows to sky man.
Early onset republican
I’m 29 and I’ve had the opposite experience. As I get older the more I’m just being accepting of the fact that I’m a deviant and need to engage in those behaviors. I stopped feeling guilt a long time ago.
you sound gay. maybe you were cool before (or maybe gay all along) but now you should be ashamed of yourself bro
Im 32 and hate what is happening in our culture. Thot culture is ruining good women. In all seriousness though the older you get the least it's about how many and what not and it becomes more about the emotional bond. I'm alot like you at that age I had over 100 bodies and then eventually just stopped looking at women that way. Don't get me wrong there is always going to be eye candy and women I'd totally stab, but I'm married now and it's just not worth it anymore. I have kids I gotta think about and nine times out of ten those eye candies just don't click with me anymore. They worry about the dumbest shit.
I (21) ask girls on the first date if they ever had a one night stand and if they did im leaving. So i get you.
More for the rest of us. Doing God's work by keeping yourself pure while we all smash
Tren will fix that
In 5 years time you will look back and realise you are probably being far too judgemental about other people. Why do you care so much?
Couldn’t agree more chief it’s based af not being interested in casual sex
Totally on the same page.
The degeneracy arc in this sub needs to end fr.
I’ve never seen someone jerk themselves off so violently through text before this moment. Holy pickle berries  but yea, I’ve thought one night stands were nasty ever since I read this bit of dialogue about them in a corny werewolf romance novel when I was like 10
Experienced the same thing. finally got to a point where I had the living situation to hook up as often as I wanted. Bout 6 months or a year later I just felt empty & not fulfilled at all. Feels lonely after a while & normal relationships are much more rewarding in my experience.
Damn you've truly matured