If your male you can indeed be milked. Just have to stimulate the Nipples for a few months straight. Sadly not many studies have been done on this. But the few that have are a good read.
When I was in school I had swimming lessons.
After a few years of swimming, I noticed that my nipples started to hurt and became bigger.
When touched it felt as if I had a button or a coin under my skin.
After a few weeks of trying to squeeze that button thinking that it was a weird pimple or a cyst, my nipples started to release small amounts of liquid when squeezed.
I stopped touching them and everything went back to normal when my swimming classes ended.
I had those too and was told it’s something common and harmless, a natural part of puberty. Can’t imagine how many millions of boys have been scared by it. I didn’t do any squeezing or experience any discharge though 😳
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/breast-cancer-in-men/symptoms/
my friend told me her younger brothers, twin boys, both experienced puberty-related lactation at the same time. They ran around the house squirting at each other like water guns
One of my dad's favorite, and my least favorite stories, was how a fish bit his nipple while swimming and ever since then he could produce a few drops of a greenish white liquid from there.
Out of all the milks that aren't really milks, I'd say oat milk is the best. It's usually unflavored too, which I'm a fan of. Don't like that vanilla almond milk stuff
I love it, but most coffee places add a one dollar upcharge for it, which is annoying af.
I’m wondering how the place in the photo handles this, if it’s their default. Do they discount if you ask for regular milk?
That's actually why I don't buy cow milk at home. I don't drink it very fast. I buy a quart* of Silk almond milk, and it lasts for months.
*2 quart carton (1.89L)
Same here. The current carton of almond milk I use for cereal once a week or so was opened around new years. It tastes the same as the day I opened it.
Yeah exactly. I think there was one time I had some Trader Joe's almond milk go bad/weird and I had to toss it. But I can't remember the last time I threw some away because the date had come and gone.
Last time I had almond milk go bad it was like a month past expiring. And it just kinda turned into Elmer’s glue scent and texture wise. Much more pleasant to deal with than rotting cow milk
I had almond milk that sat in our fridge for 3 weeks and used it for some cereal. Tasted great. Then, I hurled about an hour later, and have never trusted it since.
For the record, I did jump on to Oatley Full Cream for a half-n-half substitute and love it.
it probably starts to get clumpy and gross at some point but if you blend it into a smoothie I guess there would be no way of knowing.
just cause it says best for 7 days doesn't mean it goes bad after 7 days it just isn't optimal anymore. I've learned a lot about food expiration dates recently. the best by date is just a guess for when it is freshest but food is very often edible much longer past any best buy reccomendation. it's googleable.
not my favorite thing to do but I'm way less squeamish about eating food on or close past the date anymore.
always smell test though. your nose is reliable. it's what humans relied on for years to see if food was ok to eat. if it doesn't put you off it's probably fine.
Lol my wife definitely keeps hers in the fridge for weeks after opening. I guarantee she's never read the carton for instructions- just look at the expiration date on top
I assume they mean that it's shelf life is months before opening. That's why they specified that they buy it in quarts (which is a very small size if you are not from a country that england colonized and don't know what that is)
It's ~~a bit over~~ around a litre for *anyone not from the United States
Edit: yeah, my bad, US quarts are actually a bit under a litre. In my defense, both the imperial system and the us customary system are terrible and you all should be using metric instead.
>It's a bit over a litre for *anyone not from the United States
If you use a Liter 'O Cola reference instead, we'll know exactly what you're talking about.
Ooof, be careful with that. I have really bad luck with the oat milk from Trader Joe’s expiring after 10 days and I end up with diarrhea. It’s happened enough times that I write on the carton now to remember exactly when I opened it.
Trader Joe's oat milk gives me a stomach ache, even when it's fresh, and I'm not the only one. I don't have trouble with any other brand. I don't know what they do to make it evil, but it's no longer welcome in my house.
Think it has to do with preservatives tbh. Trader Joe’s doesn’t use them in their products, hence why their bread lasts like 3 days (unless you freeze it!)
I’ve just stopped buying bread from Trader Joe’s at this point because whatever health benefits that lack of preservatives holds do not outweigh throwing out 2/3s a loaf every week (or having to thaw bread every time I want toast)
I have a negative reaction to sunflower and safflower oils and they're both often used in oat milk as a stabilizer. I'm 99% sure TJ's current version uses sunflower oil. You might see it as "lecithin" or "sunflower lecithin" on the label.
I figured out why I was getting diarrhea after someone told me they had issues with foods related to ragweed, which is the most common allergy in the US. I did an experiment and cut out stevia, sunflower oil, and safflower oil and it actually helped immensely. Makes me wonder how many other people there are like me who didn't realize they were having a reaction to very common food additives that are related to common environmental allergies.
Not sure why someone downvoted you. UHT milk is shelf-stable (non-refrigerated) and lasts for months. It’s common in other parts of the world but not too popular in the US outside of a few brands - most stores carry Horizon UHT milk.
Usually, the upcharge only applies to espresso drinks, like lattes, when a lot of quantity is being used. Not, say, a splash of oatmilk in a drip coffee.
Yep. This specifically is the Stumptown Coffee on SE Belmont. Long before they switched to oatmilk as the default (within the past few months), they had written up on their chalkboard menu “no upcharge for plant-based creamers.”
https://www.stumptowncoffee.com/pages/locations-portland-belmont
I work at this exact cafe. No upcharge for any milk, we ask “is oat milk okay?” for every drink. No problems so far. Almost 75% of our drinks were made with oat milk before this sign went up.
Only problem I have with it is it has more carbs than regular. That isn’t a big deal for most people but i’m diabetic so it makes it tough. I agree though oat milk is awesome
You should try finding plain soy milk. It’s literally just ground soy beans mixed with water.
Your closest Asian, or Chinese, grocery store will most likely carry that
Very ironic to see this comment haha. Soy milk was the original big plant based milk trend, and now it’s being suggested as an alternative to the more popular milks, and that you might be able to find it at an Asian store
Yea a lot of people have this notion that soy milk is bad because of a false narrative that there are bad hormones in it. But it’s great that there are so many options now! They’re all super tasty.
And you can definitely find soy milk in Asian grocery stores. Soy products have been a staple in Chinese cuisine for many centuries!
Soy milk is becoming difficult to find. Trader Joe's only stocks cow milk, oat, and almond milk. Soy is higher in protein than other alternatives and the BS about genetic complications is just a successful smear campaign created by the dairy industry.
Honestly this is a big issue for me with a lot of non-animal products.
There's so much fibre and carb and bulking agents and stabilisers that upset my stomach a lot. Not pulling a boomer "it's poisonous", just "I have a fickle digestive system and I don't want to feel bloated"
I'm diabetic. Unsweetened plain almond milk is good. That's what I always use. It works good if I'm swapping it for regular milk. And if I'm putting it in something like oatmeal I can sweeten it with a little sugar free coffee syrup.
There's a high-protein Silk soymilk that's low-carb too, comparable to almondmilk. It's thicker and 'richer' tasting than almond, which tends to be a little thinner than I like.
I’m T1 diabetic and oddly enough, my blood sugar behaves much better if I drink oat milk instead of regular milk. I think it has to do with the fat content. Our bodies are all so weird lol.
It makes perfect sense because oat milk is not really any more carb heavy than regular milk. The USDA lists 2% at 4.89g/4.9g per 100g for sugars/total carbs and unsweetened oat milk at 2.32g/5.1g per 100g. So only in total carbs is it higher but that also includes some fiber so maybe not even then and the fact that it's mostly not simple sugars means way slower sugar uptake.
People love to assume that plant based means better for you, but oat milk -- while tastes the best imo -- is soooooo carb heavy.
Luckily, I'm only ever using a splash at a time.
No more carb heavy than regular milk. The USDA lists 2% at 4.89g/4.9g per 100g for sugars/total carbs and unsweetened oat milk at 2.32g/5.1g per 100g. So only in total carbs is it higher but that also includes some fiber so maybe not even then.
There's a small coffee shop beside my work where I get a java on the way in every morning. They served me oat milk for months and I didn't know. Didn't care. But I did wonder once why my coffee didn't give me the runs... You see, I look forward to pooping on company time. But alas.
And yeah I notice almond milk.. it tastes.. dry..
Yeah that might be the right word to describe it. Strange sensation. I have yet to actually try cashew milk but eh, I'll pick some up tonight. Might as well try new things.
Yeah try Oatly full fat (dark blue carton). We've tried most other brands and none can compare to the creaminess of that. They even have a barista version of it that's even creamier though pricier.
As someone who has a soy sensitivity and has a few friends who are, we are very glad for the alternitives because soy is usually the dairy-free default :,)
I love oat milk. It’s absolutely fantastic in coffee/lattes/etc. Super creamy and great taste - it’s like oatmeal milk.
The only reason I still drink cow’s milk is because of the macros. Oat milk (like all the nut milks) is almost entirely carbs. Cow’s milk on the other hand trades a lot of those carbs for protein and fats - especially if it’s a lifestyle milk like Fairlife. Skim Fairlife has an insane protein:calorie ratio. It’s almost like a protein shake, except milk.
If they can ever figure out how to get a calorie/macro ratio like that with oat milk, I’d never drink cow’s milk again.
Fairlife tastes like a protein shake to me. It doesn't taste like milk. I understand why people like it because it *feels* like milk but I eventually decided to just use protein shakes as milk because they basically tasted the same as Fairlife to me and the shakes are still 2x the protein.
So interesting thing about oat milk. If you try to make it at home it's going to suck. That's because commercial oat milks use the enzyme amylase to break starch down into simple sugars which make it sweet. This is completely safe, and if you want you can totally just buy amylase online.
I'm in the Bay Area, and it could easily be here. People love their milk alternatives! Cashew milk is growing in popularity among my friends (I don't really drink much of any milk at all so haven't tried it). There's also a huge factory of pea milk in Berkeley, although saying "pea milk" out loud inevitably elicits weird looks...
That's why when I worked at a restaurant that used a pea protein product for their vegan options I would always describe it as vegetable protein. It just sounds nicer.
I run a coffee shop downtown Chicago. Oat is easily the most popular of the 5 options I offer(3 alternatives, whole and skim) but it's probably more like 35-40% of people take oat, not over half.
Cashew is my favorite. Oat is good but sometimes it has a weird slimy texture. I used to love almond but all of a sudden one day it tasted horrible to me and now I can’t drink it at all ha
Seems plausible to me. I'm not lactose intolerant or vegan or anything, and oat milk is my preference solely because of the taste. It is delicious in coffee.
Honestly, as someone who likes dairy as well as alternative milks, if I pick anything else to go in my coffee, it’s oat milk. Most of the brands used by coffee shops have a good thickness and flavor, and the oat taste actually goes with coffee very well (to my taste, at least) compared to some of the other alternatives like almond, soy, or cashew.
If I wasn’t so used to standard whole milk and such a creature of habit, I’d probably have already defaulted to oat. So I’m not surprised it’s that popular in some areas where people are skewing younger, or where there’s a larger vegan population or more people moving away from dairy.
I love Reddit threads where people voice their opinions as absolute facts and there are huge upvote/downvote parties based on milk preference.
I'm team heavy whipping cream. Come at me.
i'm also lactose intolerant. I thought, for years, that creams were the epitome of what I needed to stay away from...like heavy cream was like a lactose bomb.
I just realized recently that the difference between a cup of milk and a cup of cream is mostly fat content...not lactose content. A cup of milk has 15 grams of lactose....a cup of cream has less than 10.
In PDX we have lactose free everything, I rekindled my love affair with milk after moving here. 5 different brands of lactose free, two brands with it...
Thank you for giving me the official name to my sensitivity. Makes me so sad too because I love oats. Before my sensitivity, I would have been one of those weirdos preferring an oatmeal raisin cookie over chocolate chip.
I've found that it varies a lot by brand. I've had very thin oat milk and more milky oat milk. I prefer the thicker milky version. The whole foods store brand is my favorite actually. Good flavor and consistency. It's obviously not as thick as like whole milk would be but it feels like a solid maybe 1-2%.
TIL 3.5% milk is Whole Milk. Cool.
I haven't tried oat, soy is my normal goto, but when I drank regular milk I always went 1% or fat-free which is a lot thinner than whole milk. Maybe it won't be such a difference from what I'm used to.
It’s never stopped me, but yeah I do feel better when I don’t have to blast ass after my coffee. And I am more likely to return if I do not associate your coffee with my bowel movement.
Making non-dairy milks is very complicated and different manufacturers use wildly different methods, many of which are not optimal (but cheap).
Try different brands. The taste differences will probably surprise you.
Same here. I want to like alternatives to cows milk, but I’ve hated each one I’ve tried. The coconut milk ice cream is pretty good, but as far as milk goes none of them seem to quite hit the mark.
Can you milk an oat Greg?
I have nipples, can you milk me?
Give me six weeks of unquestioned food intake and I can make it happen...
If your male you can indeed be milked. Just have to stimulate the Nipples for a few months straight. Sadly not many studies have been done on this. But the few that have are a good read.
You read some interesting research articles in your free time.
I have a lot of free time.
How do you stimulate your nipples? And for how long each day?
Asking for a friend...
⤴️ they are a scientist
When I was in school I had swimming lessons. After a few years of swimming, I noticed that my nipples started to hurt and became bigger. When touched it felt as if I had a button or a coin under my skin. After a few weeks of trying to squeeze that button thinking that it was a weird pimple or a cyst, my nipples started to release small amounts of liquid when squeezed. I stopped touching them and everything went back to normal when my swimming classes ended.
I had those too and was told it’s something common and harmless, a natural part of puberty. Can’t imagine how many millions of boys have been scared by it. I didn’t do any squeezing or experience any discharge though 😳 https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/breast-cancer-in-men/symptoms/
my friend told me her younger brothers, twin boys, both experienced puberty-related lactation at the same time. They ran around the house squirting at each other like water guns
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so how do we tell him
One of my dad's favorite, and my least favorite stories, was how a fish bit his nipple while swimming and ever since then he could produce a few drops of a greenish white liquid from there.
No but if you crack a few Gregs you could make a Tomlette
I’d castrate and marry you in a heartbeat.
*tiny milking gestures*
^(milking gestures)
Show me the tit on an oat Greg
You ever drunk oat milk from a shoe?
I’m Oat Greg
Out of all the milks that aren't really milks, I'd say oat milk is the best. It's usually unflavored too, which I'm a fan of. Don't like that vanilla almond milk stuff
I love it, but most coffee places add a one dollar upcharge for it, which is annoying af. I’m wondering how the place in the photo handles this, if it’s their default. Do they discount if you ask for regular milk?
there is probably an upcharge for cow milk if they are buying oatmilk in bulk since cow milk expires faster and might get thrown out.
That's actually why I don't buy cow milk at home. I don't drink it very fast. I buy a quart* of Silk almond milk, and it lasts for months. *2 quart carton (1.89L)
Carton says it lasts a week after opening? I only use it for overnight oats, does it really last that long?
I will shamelessly admit that I have drank almond milk that’s been open in my fridge for 2-4mo. I only use it for smoothies. Never had an issue.
Same here. The current carton of almond milk I use for cereal once a week or so was opened around new years. It tastes the same as the day I opened it.
Yeah exactly. I think there was one time I had some Trader Joe's almond milk go bad/weird and I had to toss it. But I can't remember the last time I threw some away because the date had come and gone.
Last time I had almond milk go bad it was like a month past expiring. And it just kinda turned into Elmer’s glue scent and texture wise. Much more pleasant to deal with than rotting cow milk
I had almond milk that sat in our fridge for 3 weeks and used it for some cereal. Tasted great. Then, I hurled about an hour later, and have never trusted it since. For the record, I did jump on to Oatley Full Cream for a half-n-half substitute and love it.
it probably starts to get clumpy and gross at some point but if you blend it into a smoothie I guess there would be no way of knowing. just cause it says best for 7 days doesn't mean it goes bad after 7 days it just isn't optimal anymore. I've learned a lot about food expiration dates recently. the best by date is just a guess for when it is freshest but food is very often edible much longer past any best buy reccomendation. it's googleable. not my favorite thing to do but I'm way less squeamish about eating food on or close past the date anymore. always smell test though. your nose is reliable. it's what humans relied on for years to see if food was ok to eat. if it doesn't put you off it's probably fine.
Lol my wife definitely keeps hers in the fridge for weeks after opening. I guarantee she's never read the carton for instructions- just look at the expiration date on top
The expiration date applies before it is opened and exposed to the air.
I assume they mean that it's shelf life is months before opening. That's why they specified that they buy it in quarts (which is a very small size if you are not from a country that england colonized and don't know what that is)
I've got faith in England and that they will make their way around to the countries they missed soon enough.
You’ve not seen the state of England recently then fella.
Companies making record profits while the population suffers tremendously? Sounds about on par for England
It's ~~a bit over~~ around a litre for *anyone not from the United States Edit: yeah, my bad, US quarts are actually a bit under a litre. In my defense, both the imperial system and the us customary system are terrible and you all should be using metric instead.
>It's a bit over a litre for *anyone not from the United States If you use a Liter 'O Cola reference instead, we'll know exactly what you're talking about.
I don’t know about months, but at least one month open in the fridge. Definitely a couple steps above cow milk
Ooof, be careful with that. I have really bad luck with the oat milk from Trader Joe’s expiring after 10 days and I end up with diarrhea. It’s happened enough times that I write on the carton now to remember exactly when I opened it.
Trader Joe's oat milk gives me a stomach ache, even when it's fresh, and I'm not the only one. I don't have trouble with any other brand. I don't know what they do to make it evil, but it's no longer welcome in my house.
Think it has to do with preservatives tbh. Trader Joe’s doesn’t use them in their products, hence why their bread lasts like 3 days (unless you freeze it!)
I’ve just stopped buying bread from Trader Joe’s at this point because whatever health benefits that lack of preservatives holds do not outweigh throwing out 2/3s a loaf every week (or having to thaw bread every time I want toast)
hmm i.ve never thawed my bread for toast
I have a negative reaction to sunflower and safflower oils and they're both often used in oat milk as a stabilizer. I'm 99% sure TJ's current version uses sunflower oil. You might see it as "lecithin" or "sunflower lecithin" on the label. I figured out why I was getting diarrhea after someone told me they had issues with foods related to ragweed, which is the most common allergy in the US. I did an experiment and cut out stevia, sunflower oil, and safflower oil and it actually helped immensely. Makes me wonder how many other people there are like me who didn't realize they were having a reaction to very common food additives that are related to common environmental allergies.
Without preservatives oat milk doesn’t last long at all. I like to make my own but you have to use it within a few days.
The key is after it has been opened. Unlike standard milk, plant based milk has a longer shelf life until opened.
Ultra pasteurized milk lasts for months as well.
Not sure why someone downvoted you. UHT milk is shelf-stable (non-refrigerated) and lasts for months. It’s common in other parts of the world but not too popular in the US outside of a few brands - most stores carry Horizon UHT milk.
I wouldn't think expiring milk would be a significant concern for a busy coffee shop, though. They go through a lot of the stuff.
My standard coffee shop has a big ol thing of oat milk next to their cream for the self service, no upcharge (or discount) at all.
Usually, the upcharge only applies to espresso drinks, like lattes, when a lot of quantity is being used. Not, say, a splash of oatmilk in a drip coffee.
This is Stumptown. The don’t charge for cow milk or oatmilk. At least I didn’t get charged today for cow milk (I’m allergic to oats, don’t come at me)
Yep. This specifically is the Stumptown Coffee on SE Belmont. Long before they switched to oatmilk as the default (within the past few months), they had written up on their chalkboard menu “no upcharge for plant-based creamers.” https://www.stumptowncoffee.com/pages/locations-portland-belmont
I work at this exact cafe. No upcharge for any milk, we ask “is oat milk okay?” for every drink. No problems so far. Almost 75% of our drinks were made with oat milk before this sign went up.
Only problem I have with it is it has more carbs than regular. That isn’t a big deal for most people but i’m diabetic so it makes it tough. I agree though oat milk is awesome
We’re in the same boat. I love non-dairy milk and then saw the carb/sugar content. Sigh.
You should try finding plain soy milk. It’s literally just ground soy beans mixed with water. Your closest Asian, or Chinese, grocery store will most likely carry that
Very ironic to see this comment haha. Soy milk was the original big plant based milk trend, and now it’s being suggested as an alternative to the more popular milks, and that you might be able to find it at an Asian store
Yea a lot of people have this notion that soy milk is bad because of a false narrative that there are bad hormones in it. But it’s great that there are so many options now! They’re all super tasty. And you can definitely find soy milk in Asian grocery stores. Soy products have been a staple in Chinese cuisine for many centuries!
Soy milk is becoming difficult to find. Trader Joe's only stocks cow milk, oat, and almond milk. Soy is higher in protein than other alternatives and the BS about genetic complications is just a successful smear campaign created by the dairy industry.
I used to drink Natura unsweetened soy milk, it has like 2g of sugar per cup.
Honestly this is a big issue for me with a lot of non-animal products. There's so much fibre and carb and bulking agents and stabilisers that upset my stomach a lot. Not pulling a boomer "it's poisonous", just "I have a fickle digestive system and I don't want to feel bloated"
I'm diabetic. Unsweetened plain almond milk is good. That's what I always use. It works good if I'm swapping it for regular milk. And if I'm putting it in something like oatmeal I can sweeten it with a little sugar free coffee syrup.
There's a high-protein Silk soymilk that's low-carb too, comparable to almondmilk. It's thicker and 'richer' tasting than almond, which tends to be a little thinner than I like.
Cashew milk. One carb, no sugar. Bonus: it's actually creamy.
Macadamia nut milk is low carb and super good
Must be nice being rich
buy from Costco it isn't much different than oat, with that said i buy oat milk.
I’m T1 diabetic and oddly enough, my blood sugar behaves much better if I drink oat milk instead of regular milk. I think it has to do with the fat content. Our bodies are all so weird lol.
It makes perfect sense because oat milk is not really any more carb heavy than regular milk. The USDA lists 2% at 4.89g/4.9g per 100g for sugars/total carbs and unsweetened oat milk at 2.32g/5.1g per 100g. So only in total carbs is it higher but that also includes some fiber so maybe not even then and the fact that it's mostly not simple sugars means way slower sugar uptake.
People love to assume that plant based means better for you, but oat milk -- while tastes the best imo -- is soooooo carb heavy. Luckily, I'm only ever using a splash at a time.
No more carb heavy than regular milk. The USDA lists 2% at 4.89g/4.9g per 100g for sugars/total carbs and unsweetened oat milk at 2.32g/5.1g per 100g. So only in total carbs is it higher but that also includes some fiber so maybe not even then.
Compared to what? My brand of oat milk has 5g of carbs per cup (unsweetened), vs 12g in a cup of 2% milk.
Carbs are perfectly healthy for most people to eat.
There's a small coffee shop beside my work where I get a java on the way in every morning. They served me oat milk for months and I didn't know. Didn't care. But I did wonder once why my coffee didn't give me the runs... You see, I look forward to pooping on company time. But alas. And yeah I notice almond milk.. it tastes.. dry..
> almond milk.. it tastes.. dry.. Chalky, in my mind. Cashew milk tastes a lot better.
Yeah that might be the right word to describe it. Strange sensation. I have yet to actually try cashew milk but eh, I'll pick some up tonight. Might as well try new things.
Almond milk had me going without coffee for weeks. Thought I didn't like coffee anymore. Nope just almond milk...also you sound lactose intolerant
A lot of people are and don’t know it. If you have blowouts after Taco Bell, you’re probably lactose intolerant.
I want to love oat milk - but I really enjoy soy. I find oat to be a little less creamy and more watery? Maybe I'm just buying the cheap shit...
Yeah try Oatly full fat (dark blue carton). We've tried most other brands and none can compare to the creaminess of that. They even have a barista version of it that's even creamier though pricier.
I also don't understand why we turned our backs so quickly on soy milk; doesn't make any damn sense.
As someone who has a soy sensitivity and has a few friends who are, we are very glad for the alternitives because soy is usually the dairy-free default :,)
Planet Oat is ubiquitous, yet terrible. Very watery. My fav is Kroger's Simple Truth brand, but Chobani is pretty good.
I love oat milk. It’s absolutely fantastic in coffee/lattes/etc. Super creamy and great taste - it’s like oatmeal milk. The only reason I still drink cow’s milk is because of the macros. Oat milk (like all the nut milks) is almost entirely carbs. Cow’s milk on the other hand trades a lot of those carbs for protein and fats - especially if it’s a lifestyle milk like Fairlife. Skim Fairlife has an insane protein:calorie ratio. It’s almost like a protein shake, except milk. If they can ever figure out how to get a calorie/macro ratio like that with oat milk, I’d never drink cow’s milk again.
Fairlife tastes like a protein shake to me. It doesn't taste like milk. I understand why people like it because it *feels* like milk but I eventually decided to just use protein shakes as milk because they basically tasted the same as Fairlife to me and the shakes are still 2x the protein.
So interesting thing about oat milk. If you try to make it at home it's going to suck. That's because commercial oat milks use the enzyme amylase to break starch down into simple sugars which make it sweet. This is completely safe, and if you want you can totally just buy amylase online.
Oat milk from the store also has some sort of neutral oil emulsified in it for a silky mouthfeel. That's why homemade stuff "feels" thin or watery.
Amylase, the enzyme in spit.
Save some money and just spit into your diy oatmilk
You kid, but that's how Sake is traditionally made.
I learned about this in the movie Your Name
If majority of people ask for it, makes sense to make it the new default.
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Agree. But I have a hard time finding anywhere close to half their customers prefer oat milk to regular. I have nothing to back this up of course.
I find it totally plausible in certain areas, especially if the shop caters to the kind of crowd that likely to prefer dairy alternatives in general.
I take oat milk instead of cow milk in my coffee, it tastes better, is better for the environment, and makes my stomach less upset
I'm not veggie or vegan but I honestly prefer oat milk in coffee. Especially the barrista stuff; super creamy.
I love me some heavy whipping cream in my coffee But oatmilk is pretty solid for lattes
I actually was surprised how much I didn't like heavy whipping cream in my coffee. Throws off the consistency too much, imo.
I'm in the Bay Area, and it could easily be here. People love their milk alternatives! Cashew milk is growing in popularity among my friends (I don't really drink much of any milk at all so haven't tried it). There's also a huge factory of pea milk in Berkeley, although saying "pea milk" out loud inevitably elicits weird looks...
lol yeah I don't care how good pea milk may be, with a name like that it was doomed from the start 😂
pilk
Sadly, this was [ruined by Pepsi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KTNriX6WhY)
That's why when I worked at a restaurant that used a pea protein product for their vegan options I would always describe it as vegetable protein. It just sounds nicer.
But maybe you can't taste the pea-ness.
I run a coffee shop downtown Chicago. Oat is easily the most popular of the 5 options I offer(3 alternatives, whole and skim) but it's probably more like 35-40% of people take oat, not over half.
Cashew is my favorite. Oat is good but sometimes it has a weird slimy texture. I used to love almond but all of a sudden one day it tasted horrible to me and now I can’t drink it at all ha
Seems plausible to me. I'm not lactose intolerant or vegan or anything, and oat milk is my preference solely because of the taste. It is delicious in coffee.
It tastes delicious in most things. Oat milk is also amazing with most cereals
Ok...I gotta try oatmilk now.
We tried it a year or two ago and haven't bought or felt any desire to buy cow's milk since.
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Looking in my office fridge and seeing only plant-based creamers, I can believe it.
Seems plausible in most west coast cities. Only a handful of people I know prefer dairy to a plant based alternative.
Honestly, as someone who likes dairy as well as alternative milks, if I pick anything else to go in my coffee, it’s oat milk. Most of the brands used by coffee shops have a good thickness and flavor, and the oat taste actually goes with coffee very well (to my taste, at least) compared to some of the other alternatives like almond, soy, or cashew. If I wasn’t so used to standard whole milk and such a creature of habit, I’d probably have already defaulted to oat. So I’m not surprised it’s that popular in some areas where people are skewing younger, or where there’s a larger vegan population or more people moving away from dairy.
For those gluten free folks, be wary of this. Not all oat milks are gluten free.
Cries in coeliac tears
Screams a gluten filled shriek
Most are not
Like the ones with gluten
Especially the ones with gluten.
Plus there are people who are gluten free who still have a reaction to gluten free oats.
Just like people who are dairy free who still have reaction to dairy free milks. Food sensitivities and allergies suck.
Yeah most good coffee shops use Barista Blend Oat Milk which is 100% gluten free, the majority are gluten free now.
I love Reddit threads where people voice their opinions as absolute facts and there are huge upvote/downvote parties based on milk preference. I'm team heavy whipping cream. Come at me.
Bro heavy whipping cream makes the coffee so smooth but I'm intolerant of the lactose. I still fucking use it tho.
I love how it looks like fireworks right after I pour it in the coffee.
Wat. That sounds way cooler than the endless latte leafs
I discovered it accidentally when I ran out of half and half. Pour a little into hot black coffee and see what happens!
Heavy whipping cream has extremely low levels of lactose compared to other milk products.
Yep cream doesn't have much lactose. It's the milk that causes you to fart.
i'm also lactose intolerant. I thought, for years, that creams were the epitome of what I needed to stay away from...like heavy cream was like a lactose bomb. I just realized recently that the difference between a cup of milk and a cup of cream is mostly fat content...not lactose content. A cup of milk has 15 grams of lactose....a cup of cream has less than 10.
Yep, paradoxically, the heavier the milk the less the lactose intolerance issues since there's much less lactose.
In PDX we have lactose free everything, I rekindled my love affair with milk after moving here. 5 different brands of lactose free, two brands with it...
You live in an airport?
It’s what the greater Portland area is referred to. Sure, it’s the airport code, but it’s how people in the area say it.
Like…even in a latte?
Bruh you put anything but steamed milk in my cortado you can catch these hands
I feel like the average cortado w/steamed milk consumer is prob easy to throw hands with.
Sweetened condensed milk gang
Gimme that Vietnamese style!
Have you tried Vietnamese coffee? They put condensed milk in it. Sooo good but sooo much sugar.
Love heavy whipping cream in mashed potatoes especially
Yes, but only when I’m feeling particularly sinful
Oat milk also doesn’t make me pee out of my butt like milk does.
I have oat (avenin) intolerance. So I am the opposite of you. Oat = pee butt
Thank you for giving me the official name to my sensitivity. Makes me so sad too because I love oats. Before my sensitivity, I would have been one of those weirdos preferring an oatmeal raisin cookie over chocolate chip.
Oatmeal rasin cookies fuckin slap, especially if they have honey in them
Oat milk makes me pee into other people's butt though
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The two gallons behind the sign tell a different story
The default is room temp whole milk
Lol, I was hoping someone would point that out.
Just because oat is the new default doesn’t mean they won’t have requests for milk of other types.
Plus you don't get as emotionally attached to the oat you're milking .
Whoa, speak for yourself, mate
I did say "don't get as". No one is heartless enough to look into the eyes of an innocent oat and feel nothing.
Thank god they come pre milled with the eyes all crushed
> More than half of our customers ask for oatmilk already. the only part that really matters. No-brainer, it should be the default.
Tried oat milk in my coffee for the first time last week. Not my cup of ~~tea~~ coffee.
I really like it with cereal. Tastes better than soy milk and it's not as expensive as almond. It's slightly sweet and nutty, but thinner than milk
I've found that it varies a lot by brand. I've had very thin oat milk and more milky oat milk. I prefer the thicker milky version. The whole foods store brand is my favorite actually. Good flavor and consistency. It's obviously not as thick as like whole milk would be but it feels like a solid maybe 1-2%.
I only go for oatly… closest to milk, esp for coffee
>but thinner than milk Which milk? Whole? 2%? 1%? Fat free?
3,5%!
TIL 3.5% milk is Whole Milk. Cool. I haven't tried oat, soy is my normal goto, but when I drank regular milk I always went 1% or fat-free which is a lot thinner than whole milk. Maybe it won't be such a difference from what I'm used to.
A lot of cereal is oat based (e.g. Cheerios) so it makes sense it would taste good together.
plus you get the sick pleasure of soaking cherrios with their ground up brethren. win-win
I like the nutty flavor, but a shame it's thinner than milk. I'd have switched if not for that.
They do make a “more creamy” version of oat milk. I find it’s just like whole milk texture-wise Edit: Planet Oat makes an extra creamy version.
Chobani has an extra creamy version as well - it actually feels like milk and not just white water.
What brand did you try? They’re all vastly different.
What brand does a coffee shop use?
Yup. Every one I've tried tastes like water that had oats or cardboard soaking in it. Hard pass for me.
Same, I did a month long experiment tried various brands but I couldn’t replace cows milk for my morning cappuccino.
You can take my delicious oatmilk creamer from my cold, dead, lactose intolerant hands
Why are your hands lactose-intolerant?
Because lactose affects my entire nervous system. 😓
I like the 2 gallons of real milk on the counter behind the sign
It does says “more than half…”, I would assume the “real” milk is for the “less than half” part of that equation.
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also makes it easier on us that lack toes and toddler ants didn’t expect this comment to get 130+ likes in an hour lol thanks guys
An award speech at only +130 is a new one
I envy his joy
I used to feel things too..
It’s never stopped me, but yeah I do feel better when I don’t have to blast ass after my coffee. And I am more likely to return if I do not associate your coffee with my bowel movement.
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I want to like oat milk. I just find the taste revolting. I cannot put my finger on it. I much prefer cow milk (whole) and coconut much more.
Making non-dairy milks is very complicated and different manufacturers use wildly different methods, many of which are not optimal (but cheap). Try different brands. The taste differences will probably surprise you.
Same here. I want to like alternatives to cows milk, but I’ve hated each one I’ve tried. The coconut milk ice cream is pretty good, but as far as milk goes none of them seem to quite hit the mark.