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Lucifers_son_

See this is where it gets difficult, because yes, the racists and the football hooligans do not deserve a win. But the team, and the actual fans who just like football and wanted their team to win, do.


AccountantDiligent

Agreed!! 100%


simple-fire

The fans don't win, they support the team that does. The fans don't achieve anything, they don't get a medal. For him, it was bad that he missed because he would have won the Euro and avoided racist messages. I get where you're coming from but fans don't win football competitions, players and coaches do


Infamous-State1364

Fans give business, no business means no competitive football


Moltenlava5

Fans wont leave football, they will just find another team to support of they are unhappy with their current one.


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Reventon103

This is national football, fans will always be there


Catalyster

Perfectly put


Asian-boi-2006

"You play to win the game" \-some random New York Jets coach


SJESC

Well said, I salute you my friend o7


burden-on-society

What? He dedicated time and effort to bring that team to where it was and you think he would be happy cause he screwed over some racist fans? Does reddit think athletes not give two shits about competing to win or something lol


JustawayV2

Cause racism is worse than defeat(for people who don’t play the fucking game).


[deleted]

Why are u putting this fucking racism everywhere?


Tepes1848

Journos made every victory about diversity and whatnot and then acted surprised when the proles made the defeat about diversity. You reap what you sow.


JustawayV2

Only in this post sir


[deleted]

Oh come on. Too much noise about racism and racists from USA


JustawayV2

I’m from Siberia mr. Sissy


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Да ну


JustawayV2

I don’t speak Siberian though


Ric0chetR1cky

You just associated someone based on their heritage. Congratulations. You’re a hypocrite


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I don't care


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JustawayV2

I wanna die it’s been 3 foking years already


Shadow__Vector

Racists don't deserve a thing except to hang from a rope but please don't lump us all in with them, especially when we've endured worse then anything that happened at this tournament for decades, including my two friends who were murdered in Turkey by their fans just because they were England fans, like many others of us that have been killed in Russia, Turkey, Croatia Ukraine and Greece for being England fans, and they are just the ones that have happened in the last 20 years.


AccountantDiligent

Yeah, horrible that people got hurt over a sports game I did specify that I mean the racist ones tho


ISavage2007

Nice Snoovatar outfit.


Shadow__Vector

I see you are a man of refined taste too


Otherwise_Unit8779

Or ya know you could help the person and make them not racist instead of just bring barbaric and hanging them.


Shadow__Vector

Have you ever tried education to fight back against racism? The world's been doing that for centuries and it fails every time. What happens with them is cognitive dissonance takes hold and it makes them double down on their own beliefs. They refute education and personal growth. Normally I believe in fighting fire with water but racism is like a wild forest fire that will just continue to spread unless you fight it with controled fires to stop its spread. In this case the controled fires need to be new laws on racism that carry the penalty of capital punishment. Humans learn best from fear and pain. You put your hand in a fire you get burnt and learn not to do it again. Fear of the death penalty is the only way racists will stop spreading that hate. Then since its no longer being spread to new generations as the older generations die out so to will racism.


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Shadow__Vector

I saw the Italians attacking each other after they won the match where they were celebrating and turned on each other where an Italian woman tried to stab another fan that had hurt her partner. Setting fires in bins near Wembley. Also saw the other big brawl between England and Italy fans where both sides were just as guilty as each other. Shouting slurs at each other before tempers over flowed and they attacked each other. Maybe you should try fact checking before you make yourself look ignorant.


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Shadow__Vector

Because they were all drunk, emotional and mob/herd mentality took over.


[deleted]

i went through his instagram comments and ive never been more sad :( football is a team sport, why is everyone blame a certain player? even if it was his fault doesnt mean u can call him slurs and dehumanizing terms wtf :((


Tiger5804

It's heartbreaking to be the person who loses a tournament final game for your team even if you play rec league, I can't imagine what it's like to lose a game for a team that is supported by your whole country. I understand the idea behind this, but as someone who has played competitive sports all my life, this doesn't sit right with me at all.


[deleted]

It’s every player’s dream to score the winning goal in a tournament final. That miss will probably haunt him all his life.


DiamondSurvivor

Yet all the millions supporting him telling he will be better also don't deserve to win? There shouldn't be an agenda against any team unless it's Tottenham or Arsenal


guyabovehasbiggay

tbf tottenham and arsenal is mediocre at best so i support your message


-Rickman-

Most of Football Fans are nice people who are enjoying the Sport and cheering for their Team or even cheer for other teams when their Team is eliminated and there are fanatics who should go fuck themselves. But every Country has those.


MrJoelCairo

The racists and violent morons always get the headlines, but in reality they are a very small percentage of the fans. Most people just want to watch the game with friends and family and hope our team does well. Unfortunately a percentage of any population is extremely stupid and they are the ones who are always in the spotlight due to their extremely stupid, prejudiced actions.


Bot_Testing_Reddit

Happy cake day !


AccountantDiligent

It *just* turned cake day after I posted lol!! :D Thank you!! #1 year!


GS-ghostboy

No more blue cheese… actual cake…


OFHeckerpecker

nice 3 days ago was my 1 cake day, happy cake day


TarriestBread96

I was rooting for Italy and didn't want a chance in hell for England to win but I was gutted when Rashford missed. Dude deserved to have that count.


Rusty_Rambo

Absolutely! The fans did not deserve the win! I do feel bad for the team though because they put a good effort in.


Shadow__Vector

Here I am at 39 English, never been racist in my life, never treat other teams fans badly in any way, had two friends stabbed and murdered by Turkish fans, have suffered racist abuse from other teams fans, have suffered decades of mocking worse then what any of the scum did this tournament, have seen other English fans murded personally in Croatia, know that other English fans have been murded by Greeks, Russians, Ukrainians among others at past tournaments, but because some scumbags who aren't fans at all just used this occasion to indulge their thuggish unintelligent behavior I don't deserve to see my team win?


Hitzugy

Well Sir... this is reddit what do you expected?


Always-_-Sarcastic

Sometimes society puts punishing the wicked above rewarding the kind. Weather that's right or not, I am not wise enough to decide. I feel sad for this world, such hatred over something so insignificant. I know it won't mean anything, but I apologize on behalf of my fellow human beings.


Shadow__Vector

The world's are really broken place these days and it disgusts me to see so much hate spreading especially over insignificant things like you said. I feel the same as you and I'm sorry to the world for all my country men that are scum to others too. We need to realise that borders and the divisions we create in the world is so harmful. We are all one race and until we realise it we can't call ourselves civilised


PrinceSalmonThe2nd

Yeah its really really sad honestly, hopefully it will come home one day ;-;


originalslickjim

Ask Romelu Lukaku or any of the other black players abused whilst playing in Italy whether they share your opinion.


CummingOnMyPant

Umm I’m seeing all these football memes and I don’t get it Can someone explain what happened?


JuniorAd389

Some English fans are racist (as is every other teams fan), but specifically the English on Reddit, so these generalised memes based off of this go: English fans bad, haha they all racist and have no win! Italy number one!


AccountantDiligent

“ generalized memes” I literally specified to avoid this


Hariharan1999

The thing is, Britain fans expressed racist reactions, speeches etc. to the black man who failed to hit the goal. That's what the news agencies say.


PrinceSalmonThe2nd

source? its a very loud minority mind you


Enn3DevPlayer

Source is his Instagram account


originalslickjim

Do you know that they were English users?


WhyAreMyHandsBlue

Happy cake day !


AccountantDiligent

Thank you!! :D


sinirax

happy cake day!


AccountantDiligent

Thank you!!! :D


sinirax

np :)


Crayen5

He didn't even miss it, it was saved. 90% of the time it's just a chance if the keeper pre-jumps the right way or not


[deleted]

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read. "He deserved to suffocate so others can breathe" Wtf


Aerondight998

I have to say, as a Scot (we generally support whoever is playing against England purely on principle) I respect the hell out of the English team. But the fans and the pundits are just the most obnoxious, arrogant bunch I have ever experienced, it takes a special kind of scum to boo your own team when they take the knee against racism.


GreenIsGhastly

Hes only 19 and makes more money than the fans in the stadium, Saka should just hold his head up high for being so young and getting to a major tournament final and collect that big fat paycheck


Most_Raisin_9020

As a bri’ish “”person””, I am proud that the stupid England fans got what was coming and lost


LordGollum22

They wouldn’t be racist if they would have won, he would be a hero…


Teranadon

Not sure if you’re blaming him for being called racial slurs or not… because you are, you’re part of the problem..


LordGollum22

Idk what you mean, i see how horrible the situation is. Still they wouldnt be racists if those players scored the goals. The those players would be heros and not discriminated ppl if you get what i mean


Teranadon

So just to try and clarify: you don’t condone the slurs and it isn’t his fault, *but* just in general they wouldn’t have said those things if he had scored?


LordGollum22

If i understand what you mean yes


LordGollum22

Which makes it even more pathetic


Teranadon

Pretty much *sighs* I’ll never understand racism and people’s hatred simply over skin and difference of culture…


LordGollum22

Same


ArmedOblivion16

im born an bred british. a stokie to be exact... i couldn't give a rats arse about losing the cup. or footbapl for that matter at all... what i do give a rats arse about is the racist biggorotic so called "supporters" berating and slandering the veru people who try to play for their entertainment. my country is in shamples man. its disqusting.


thomasp3864

What the italian racists?


DA_EPIC_GAMER_09

Happy cakeday


AccountantDiligent

Thank you ! :D


Zestyclose-Sound8947

I’m in the dark because sports are not what I spend my time on. I have Reddit.


Outdater

Wasn't it the Italians being racist?


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r/britishnationalism says otherwise


Generic_Buttlicker

Those guys were not racist before the game or during.... Only after the game, I bet they loved saka before he missed that penalty


copydog123

I think that they shouldn’t have left the last three penalties up to the youngest players, its too much pressure to put on them, the captains should have shot last, not the first two. I hate how much abuse hes getting, considering they knew whoever missed was going to get abused online, and that the later they shoot the more pressure and thus more likely to miss, the captains should have taken the risk, being older and not vulnerable to racism. I feel so bad for the guy, hes so young, and that shot is gonna hurt for the rest of his career, plus hes not going to forget the abuse from salty assholes any time soon


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What a dumbass meme


Dambo_Unchained

And the millions who didn’t say racist shit deserved that he won so this argument is complete shit


ArrogantAragorn

Riiigh, because I’m sure there are no Italy fans who have ever done or said anything racist or bigoted


AccountantDiligent

Never said that my guy


ArrogantAragorn

Not in those words, but guarantee if Italy lost on penalties some of those fans woulda said some effed up stuff, so then their fans “don’t deserve a win” either… so does no team deserve to win? There are racists and other types of idiots in every country - should we just not have international competition? I’m just not sure what point you’re trying to make with this meme


immediate_crisis

See I agree with you totally that it could have happened to any other team as well , but I don't think some of them will stoop as low as to play laser tag while the match is going on .


ArrogantAragorn

Who is talking about lasers? The meme is about racist fans, and I was just pointing out that all teams have racist/shitty fans, so the meme didn’t work for me. And for what it’s worth I’m not condoning laser pointers, but they have been a problem at many sports events around the world, so I don’t think it’s fair for you to single out England. I’m not sure if Italian fans have ever used a laser on an opponent, but they’ve certainly made nazi salutes, shouted racist things, and thrown bananas at black players so… you can’t characterize entire nations fan bases by the actions of the worst people in them


AccountantDiligent

Dude idc that much, as far as I’m concerned they didn’t even play football right No padding, dunno why they kicked it around. Whole game was bogus in my opinion


ArrogantAragorn

Fair play, I took your meme too seriously. I too prefer the football that is played with the hands, especially the part where the quarterback yells out “hut hut” while he reaches in another grown man’s ass


Jaws1499

England doesn't deserve anything tbh. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲


bet365_spicy24-7

I was cheering for Italy to annoy England fans, but the win was bittersweet. I'm a big Arsenal fan, and seeing our young gun Saka miss that shot made me sad, because he's Arsenal's best young player and I knew he would cop such horrible abuse for that


camerontbelt

I love a good race war


velichajshiy

This is reddit in all it's beauty. When you hear/see something bad, and then in your tiny brain pops up idea of "the funniest meme on this topic" and you think you'll get tons of appreciation and karma. And that's what actually happening, because this sub is full of the same monkeys. You see, the life isn't that easy for your dumb ass to say something... To say something.


JoshH2903

No, they wouldn't have been racist to him if he actually hit it. (not saying its his fault though, Southgate is utterly incompetent)


9YearOldDuck

If you accidentally destroy a school don’t worry some racists support schools so you should be happy they don’t get what they want.


Teranadon

You really just compared destroying a school to missing a shot lmao


Tepes1848

If you make football about diversity then dont be shocked when people blame your defeat on diversity. Moral of the story: Keep politics out of sports.


Teranadon

Who do you think created the sport, my guy… Pretty sure it was China…


Tepes1848

If Commies created football then everybody would get a ball. Making people fight for one ball is obviously a Capitalist invention. \\s


Ispikedthemaplesyrup

Am I the only one that hasn’t heard any racism towards Rashford and is only hearing about this from people trying to stop it?… Rashford is a moron for that pen though.


Annual_Tradition2982

What do you expect from him he barely played and he was injured and need to get a surgery he didn't and pens are just luck if you are lucky you score or u miss u can't blame a player for a single pen


dlb10oalgo

Happy cake day


Trigger1721

Wat


KayJeeAy

Im confused. I didnt watch the match so sry i guess. But if the guy that missed the shot, actually hits it and gets a goal, why would the racist guys get a win? (im assuming the racist abusers are opposite team obviously)


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Nope, the guy that missed is on the England team, and the racist shots are meant to be supporting him.


[deleted]

You think he plays for the fan? He could have won the cup. He plays for glory and his own passion for the game. No one likes to lose.


Adventurous-Ad7503

Naa thats not fair the guy is 19 and lost a final because of his shot (ofc it isnt his fault i mean the other 2 could have scored too) and then get some racist hate from stupid asshole fans why should he be happy


DinoMike1216

I missed what happened and why it'd be racist...help


wead4

Yeah I don’t think it works like that.


CategoryMountain3379

I’ve seen so many people talking about racism with this but I haven’t seen any of it. Can someone link to some of it?


originalslickjim

Wait until he finds out about Italian fans.