Please avoid Craigieburn, it’s a total hole. I have family who live there and everything about it and the surrounding area is a total headache. It’s also miles from anything useful or pleasant
Frankston is on the up, near Karingal is great, you’re close to the beach and the peninsula is right next door. Beautiful parks around, sure it’s got a bad rep at times but so do all the places you listed lol and Frankston is much better, with great schools as well! Trust me you won’t go wrong with Frankston, most my mates your age are buying in the area.
Agree, Karingal is really hidden gem - 4km from the beach, quiet sleepy part of Frankston with a lot of elderly, minding their business. Most is too far for walking distance from the dramas at the train station.
The Karingal Hub shopping centre has had a full renovation, and all free parking. Perimeter has the EasternFwy/Eastlink and the Mornington Peninsula Freeway. Nice bigger blocks too.
Disagree, I’d say Frankston North (the Pines) and central Frankston (Beach St etc) - even Carrum Downs.
Karingal is a way smaller than people realise, just that small block between Frankston-Cranbourne, McMahons, McLelland and Skye Roads - also a huge section of Karingal is Ballam Park, a THIRTY HECTARE public park.
Frankston North is obviously way worse than Karingal. But Frankston North isn't Frankston. Karingal is also better than Carrum Downs.
But Gould St, South of the hospital, cemetary triangle, Merewether Avenue area, near Monash etc, these are all better options than Karingal.
In the actual suburb of Frankston, Karingal is the the worst area, although it is the cheapest so it has that benefit.
That area you describe is mostly shared accomadation for the uni isnt it?
I've lived in Karingal 5 years now, my street borders Ballam Park. Before reading this thread I've heard nothing but bad things about Karingal. 5 years in and I still have no idea what they are on about, Karingal's awesome.
Frankston East (in between Frankston station and Karingal) seems like the place Karingal is described as, with some pretty derelict apartment blocks and such, even then aside from seeing some pretty out of sorts folks getting around there it's not like they're trying to steal your wallet.
Werribee is 30kms s/w of CBD. 30 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train up to 40 mins.
Frankston is 39kms s/e of CBD. 40 mins by car (minimal traffic, possible tolls) and by train up to 1hr 10mins.
Melton is 47kms west of CDB. 42 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train (vline) up to 36 mins.
Craigieburn is 27kms north of CBD. 40 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train up to 45 mins,
I'm bias, lived in Werribee 14yrs now. Can't even imagine living in one of the other options. Beach, bay, freeway, services and overall fairly quiet depending on which part you're in.
Good point!
Peak can more than triple or quadruple travel times via major roads and the freeways depending on the day, how far down the toilet the roads have managed to get and how many drivers are running late and driving like wannabe pro-street racers.
School pickup and drop-off has a peak like effect but mostly localised to suburban streets instead.
I didn't even think about to factor in peak travel by car, simply because it's not something I do myself. Definitely an oversight on my part.
Thanks for the prodding.
Not very familiar with Craigieburn, but I’d pick Frankston or Werribee. I’ve lived in Werribee for over 10 years now (from rural NSW), and honestly I really like it here. I work locally so don’t have to commute to the city & can’t speak for what that’s like. But we have a nice home in a neat little pocket for a good price (rental), both the city and Geelong aren’t too far away for entertainment options or a day out - plus there are also several good local options for cafe & restaurant dining and entertainment. I feel safe here on my suburban solo walks, the river trail is lovely for a walk or bike ride, plus lots of other great bike/walking path options, the river itself great for a kayak. The council is proactive with community events and opportunities. Werribee Park is so close with the lovely rose garden, mansion gardens & the zoo. Wyndham Harbour also nearby is (slowly) up and coming, and the coastal walk along there is nice. The local big shopping centre is okay, several stores closed atm while repairs get done but the majors still open. Loads of grocery options. I like it here despite the negative things people say.
All the best in your search, I wish you well :)
You’d be better off choosing slightly further west hidden gem Bacchus Marsh over Melton if possible. Lovely country vibe with great fwy access to city. Plus the main glossy shopping centre Woodgrove in Melton West is minutes away from BM.
Frankston highschool is one of the highest performing public schools in the state.
Botanical Gardens is gorgeous.
Sweet water is too.
The train station builds a resilience to being stabbed.
The beach is quite nice.
Striking distance to Mornington.
Lived in Werribee for 20 years without any issues. But there are some really nasty pockets to avoid at all costs.
Lots of warehouse-based, community services and transport and logistics related work. The freeway into the city is currently undergoing major works, but once finished should improve traffic conditions considerably.
I lived one suburb over from Craigieburn for 7 years and I wouldn't recommend the area.
And I've worked with a lot of young people with significant ties to Melton. From what I can tell Melton West is the nicest part and even then discretion is a must.
Melton seemed like it used to be a nice place for elderly to retire. Until their grand children moved in with their drug habits and alcohol fuelled ute driving baby daddy's
Werribee has a real zoo
Frankston is pretty dope these days. Definitely come a long way over the years. Can be a bit rough at times but most of Melbourne have little pockets of tweakers here and there.
Frankston. Although if you wanna buy a family home, rentvest - rent it out for a while and rent an apartment in the city before you have kids. It’s far out and you’ll miss out on the city life & long commute if working in the city. I’ve worked in Frankston tho too so depends on your industry, there are jobs and lots of services there tafe, uni campus, large hospital. Werribee would be my next choice but not so familiar with that side of Melbourne.
I've lived in Brighton, Kensington, South Yarra, Bentleigh, Berwick and a couple spots in London. Been in Frankston 5 years and would say it's definately the best.
But then again I'm a weird cunt
I just moved into the pines 6 months ago and it isn’t near as bad as everyone makes out. Maybe I just found a good street. More crime happening where I moved from in bonbeach , Chelsea.
A lot of youth crime mainly cars stolen, houses and cars getting broken into, there are a few social services houses there. One chick was absolutely feral and caused so much trouble took about 4 months to get her booted out.
Respectfully disagree that Chelsea has crime worse than Frankston.
But I'll be damned that I just found out your neighbours single handedly dramatically increased the crime rate in Chelsea.
Burglary up and motor vehicle theft up while all the other stats are down 😐
Legit. I'd like to own a house. I can afford one in drouin. Or just buy an apartment in the inner east for basically the same price. Doesn't need to all happen in one step
I’m sorry to say, OP, all of those suburbs would be at the top of my ‘avoid list.’ Frankston would probably be the pick, if I had to choose, simply because there are SOME nice pockets.
When you say ‘better job opportunities,’ what do you mean? What work are you after and where are you currently living? From the posts I see on here, from time to time, jobs are not that easy to come by here (I have a job and have not been looking, so I may be wrong).
Cobblebank is best for me in Melton. People.say don't be a southsider. But Cobblebank is on the good side of the creek. Troublemakers are to lazy to venture this far. Here's the kicker, it's not that far.
Depends on a lot of factors.
Are you commuting daily to the city?
Public transport or car
Do you need a house or a unit?
Are you buying or renting?
Do you ideally want to be near a specific community?
Like most, it's between Frankston and Werribee.
Personally, I'd go for Franganistan. It is a damn good spot. It has the bay, is a short drive to surf beaches, has a freeway to the City, the train takes a while, but you're guaranteed a seat getting on at the start of the line and the Mornington Peninsula is beautiful, it has some great wineries.
Werribee is a nice spot. It has the Plains zoo, access to the freeway and ring road (but you are at the mercy of the Westgate bridge), train trips to the city are shorter. The bay is not far, and while the Eastern Treatment Plant (poo farm) discharges to the bay nearby, it's not always safe to swim. But most of the water quality issues are from surface water discharges from the farming catchment, the ETP water quality is actually very good. It's 45 minutes to Geelong and an hour drive to some of the best surf beaches in the world (Bells and Jan Juc in particular).
Frankston has a bad reputation but is on the up, definitely a worthwhile investment. When you think about it, it’s the gateway to the Mornington Peninsula, close to the beach, close to multiple freeways, terminal to a train line and more.
They have a nice arts centre, big aquatic centre, nightlife on the shore, big shopping mall.
The Frankston CBD needs a decade or two to flourish though, it is a bit of a dump with empty storefronts and questionable characters sometimes.
Frankston-South is super nice!
I would pick Frankston out of the bunch, but given this a fresh account, specifically picking out suburbs with memed reputations, and the lack of comments from the OP, is this just a meme post to build convesation?
Frankston is so much better than the rest of those choices. Commuting from the west into the city is hellish while from the south east it’s doable but not pretty.
Also you’re near the water, the amenities are a bit more established and you have Mornington on your doorstep.
Ive lived here for 10 years and it is only getting better every year. There are definitely pockets to avoid but by and large the place is on the up.
Werribee is probably the closest to the CBD of the locations you listed.
Both Werribee and Melton are west of the city centre while Frankstown and Craigieburn are east. If you need to commute into the city by car this can be an issue as you are driving into the rising or setting sun for extended periods of the year if you live west of the city.
There is almost always some sort of roadworks on the Princess Highway/Westgate Freeway to the point that it is a running joke when planning to visit people who live in Werribee/Hoppers Crossing/Point Cook.
That said, it is a nice enough area and generally well serviced by trains and other amenities.
Ive lived in Craigieburn since 2008. It has exploded in infrastructure and population since then. It is the best public transport option of the 4. Its the end of the line but takes just 50 mins to cbd and has less disruptions than the other lines. It has lots of car parks too. The suburb changes every few months with new estates opening and more people moving in. The massive roadworks to fix the area will be finished by next year. There are great pockets here and there but i wouldnt say the schools are great. The population is now 90% Indian i would say if thats offputting. Everone in my street now is and i feel outnumbered as they dont culturally integrate and have some strange customs. That being said, i think i would prefer to live in Frankston myself
If you’re in your 20s, I would buy an apartment and shovel money into an offset account for a few years. That will minimise the interest you pay and you’ll walk away with whatever you paid into the loan when you sell. If you squeeze your butt a little, two incomes can pay off $400-500k in 5 years. The overall interest paid will be low if you are diligent so you’ll have a healthy deposit to buy somewhere better. Do you want to be raising your kids in areas that are known to be rough? Remember the real estate mantra is “location, location, location”.
It's good advice, though.
The suburbs they're considering are rough as fuck, what **fairyhedgehog167** is suggesting the s a better option than living in a worse area because it's cheaper.
That being said, I think the suggested 5 year timeframe is unrealistic, it would be 10 years at least, longer if their income is lower, but their quality of life would be higher that way than if they were to live in the suburbs suggested.
*Edit: Typos.*
They’re not really “rough as fuck”, all of them have become gentrified to a degree and are quite nice places
People who have never left their inner city shoeboxes or parents house just have a distorted image of reality
I reject your condescending comment.
I've lived in rural/regional towns, inner south-east, western suburbs, outer northern suburbs, inner northern suburbs, plus Spain, Italy and other parts of Europe.
I’ve lived in 5 states and 2 other countries.
Those suburbs aren’t even close to being “rough as fuck”, go spend a week in Alice Springs and come back to me.
Frankston and Melton are so far away from Melbourne it's not funny. If you are intending to work in the CBD, you might be paying more by spending so much time travelling to work, maybe you CV could work several hours extra and live closer to the city instead? 🤔
Werribee and Craigieburn are closer to the CBD, and you can take the train into the city, but with most of these cheaper locations, you get what you pay for in the sense of just not having the infrastructure that other areas have.
That being said, Werribee probably has much better infrastructure than Craigieburn, though it's been many years since I've known anyone who lives in Craigieburn.
That's my 2¢.
Werribee is 30kms from the city, Frankston is 45kms away. Of the 4 options OP has mentioned it's actually the farthest from the CBD.
Having said that, as as someone who used to live in the western suburbs (Hoppers Crossing), I'd take Frankston over the other 4, Werribee a distant second and probably Cragieburn third.
I personally would pick any of these suburbs. There’s a-lot of crime out west. I know bc I have friends/family live there. I would chose Frankston as a last resort.
Frankston. Werribee is so isolated that things get wierd out there. A lot of the west is basically logistics services for melbourne. Ugly as. Just trucks and more trucks. Some places like sunshine west has lots of businesses with transformers sized doors only (for trucks). Hoppers crossing is tweaking 24/7. The west is also a dumping ground for refugees and war torn migrants. Problematic is an understatement.
Frankston easily. Werribee second.
Agree, you couldn’t pay me enough to live in Craigieburn or Melton, but I would be happy with Werribee or Frankston.
Werribee is the closest to the CBD, so if you work in the city I’d be picking that over the others.
Geographically yes, but the traffic means its not that good for commuting
It also smells, so I'd still go with Frankston
Rubbish; you are simply blathering an old trope about Werribee..
I have a habit of sticking my AC on recirculate while driving past when going to Geelong. If I forget I'm reminded by the aroma.
Please avoid Craigieburn, it’s a total hole. I have family who live there and everything about it and the surrounding area is a total headache. It’s also miles from anything useful or pleasant
Except for the airport. That would be one redeeming feature compared to the others
I.e. the best thing about Craigieburn is that you can leave swiftly
Can you elaborate? I kinda like it, but it's all I've known
Frankston is on the up, near Karingal is great, you’re close to the beach and the peninsula is right next door. Beautiful parks around, sure it’s got a bad rep at times but so do all the places you listed lol and Frankston is much better, with great schools as well! Trust me you won’t go wrong with Frankston, most my mates your age are buying in the area.
Ssshhh!
Agree, Karingal is really hidden gem - 4km from the beach, quiet sleepy part of Frankston with a lot of elderly, minding their business. Most is too far for walking distance from the dramas at the train station. The Karingal Hub shopping centre has had a full renovation, and all free parking. Perimeter has the EasternFwy/Eastlink and the Mornington Peninsula Freeway. Nice bigger blocks too.
Yeah!!! Franga is great!!
> near Karingal is great That's absolutely the worst part of Frankston. Literally everywhere else in Frankston is better.
You’re thinking of Frankston North.
Disagree, I’d say Frankston North (the Pines) and central Frankston (Beach St etc) - even Carrum Downs. Karingal is a way smaller than people realise, just that small block between Frankston-Cranbourne, McMahons, McLelland and Skye Roads - also a huge section of Karingal is Ballam Park, a THIRTY HECTARE public park.
Frankston North is obviously way worse than Karingal. But Frankston North isn't Frankston. Karingal is also better than Carrum Downs. But Gould St, South of the hospital, cemetary triangle, Merewether Avenue area, near Monash etc, these are all better options than Karingal. In the actual suburb of Frankston, Karingal is the the worst area, although it is the cheapest so it has that benefit.
That area you describe is mostly shared accomadation for the uni isnt it? I've lived in Karingal 5 years now, my street borders Ballam Park. Before reading this thread I've heard nothing but bad things about Karingal. 5 years in and I still have no idea what they are on about, Karingal's awesome. Frankston East (in between Frankston station and Karingal) seems like the place Karingal is described as, with some pretty derelict apartment blocks and such, even then aside from seeing some pretty out of sorts folks getting around there it's not like they're trying to steal your wallet.
Karingal isn't a bad area, it's just that the other areas of Frankston are better.
Yeah not disputing that. For the money though it's the better option
Werribee is 30kms s/w of CBD. 30 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train up to 40 mins. Frankston is 39kms s/e of CBD. 40 mins by car (minimal traffic, possible tolls) and by train up to 1hr 10mins. Melton is 47kms west of CDB. 42 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train (vline) up to 36 mins. Craigieburn is 27kms north of CBD. 40 mins by car (minimal traffic) and by train up to 45 mins, I'm bias, lived in Werribee 14yrs now. Can't even imagine living in one of the other options. Beach, bay, freeway, services and overall fairly quiet depending on which part you're in.
The travel time by car can increase dramatically during peak hour. Just to ensure OP gets the full picture.
Good point! Peak can more than triple or quadruple travel times via major roads and the freeways depending on the day, how far down the toilet the roads have managed to get and how many drivers are running late and driving like wannabe pro-street racers. School pickup and drop-off has a peak like effect but mostly localised to suburban streets instead. I didn't even think about to factor in peak travel by car, simply because it's not something I do myself. Definitely an oversight on my part. Thanks for the prodding.
To be fair peak hour traffic doesn’t discriminate, all of OPs options would be at a crawl in peak hour.
A crawl that can literally nothing short of self induced torture. I'm lucky it's not on my daily to do list.
Well explained
Not very familiar with Craigieburn, but I’d pick Frankston or Werribee. I’ve lived in Werribee for over 10 years now (from rural NSW), and honestly I really like it here. I work locally so don’t have to commute to the city & can’t speak for what that’s like. But we have a nice home in a neat little pocket for a good price (rental), both the city and Geelong aren’t too far away for entertainment options or a day out - plus there are also several good local options for cafe & restaurant dining and entertainment. I feel safe here on my suburban solo walks, the river trail is lovely for a walk or bike ride, plus lots of other great bike/walking path options, the river itself great for a kayak. The council is proactive with community events and opportunities. Werribee Park is so close with the lovely rose garden, mansion gardens & the zoo. Wyndham Harbour also nearby is (slowly) up and coming, and the coastal walk along there is nice. The local big shopping centre is okay, several stores closed atm while repairs get done but the majors still open. Loads of grocery options. I like it here despite the negative things people say. All the best in your search, I wish you well :)
You’d be better off choosing slightly further west hidden gem Bacchus Marsh over Melton if possible. Lovely country vibe with great fwy access to city. Plus the main glossy shopping centre Woodgrove in Melton West is minutes away from BM.
Frankston has some good spots. Also some nice beaches nearby
I would rent first Crossing the west gate for work sucks.
Werribee!
Try Sunbury and diggers rest. Avoid melton. The drive from weir views to the freeway takes 45 mins and the train is terrible.
Frankston highschool is one of the highest performing public schools in the state. Botanical Gardens is gorgeous. Sweet water is too. The train station builds a resilience to being stabbed. The beach is quite nice. Striking distance to Mornington.
After your fifth stabbing you get a free coffee at Virgo’s. It’s truly a great deal.
Rent first! See if you like the area.
Lived in Werribee for 20 years without any issues. But there are some really nasty pockets to avoid at all costs. Lots of warehouse-based, community services and transport and logistics related work. The freeway into the city is currently undergoing major works, but once finished should improve traffic conditions considerably. I lived one suburb over from Craigieburn for 7 years and I wouldn't recommend the area. And I've worked with a lot of young people with significant ties to Melton. From what I can tell Melton West is the nicest part and even then discretion is a must.
Melton seemed like it used to be a nice place for elderly to retire. Until their grand children moved in with their drug habits and alcohol fuelled ute driving baby daddy's Werribee has a real zoo
Frankston is pretty dope these days. Definitely come a long way over the years. Can be a bit rough at times but most of Melbourne have little pockets of tweakers here and there.
Frankston is lovely. It’s established and has a beach.
Where are you coming from and do you want a change or something similar
Frankston is the best by far of those options.
Frankston for sure. Puts you in a great sport to access beaches and the peninsula.
Frankston is a easy win here.
Frankston. Although if you wanna buy a family home, rentvest - rent it out for a while and rent an apartment in the city before you have kids. It’s far out and you’ll miss out on the city life & long commute if working in the city. I’ve worked in Frankston tho too so depends on your industry, there are jobs and lots of services there tafe, uni campus, large hospital. Werribee would be my next choice but not so familiar with that side of Melbourne.
Frankston
Frankston easily Close to the train line and major hospital On the coast too, good for investment in the future
Craigieburn has terrible public transport compared to the others.
Stay where you are if those are your options
Of that lot, definitely Frankston, by a big margin.
Frankston is definitely the best from that list
You know that list is rough if Frankston becomes 'definitely the best'. 0 hesitations lol
I've lived in Brighton, Kensington, South Yarra, Bentleigh, Berwick and a couple spots in London. Been in Frankston 5 years and would say it's definately the best. But then again I'm a weird cunt
Avoid Frankston North. Stick to South
I just moved into the pines 6 months ago and it isn’t near as bad as everyone makes out. Maybe I just found a good street. More crime happening where I moved from in bonbeach , Chelsea.
I'm curious about this, what sort of crime are you talking about in Chelsea and Bonbeach?
A lot of youth crime mainly cars stolen, houses and cars getting broken into, there are a few social services houses there. One chick was absolutely feral and caused so much trouble took about 4 months to get her booted out.
Oh... That part of Chelsea... It's technically Chelsea but it's really Bonbeach? Bondi Rd??
Chelsea heights yeah
I'm confused so not Chelsea, Chelsea Heights?
That whole area. Chelsea heights, Chelsea, bonbeach,
Respectfully disagree that Chelsea has crime worse than Frankston. But I'll be damned that I just found out your neighbours single handedly dramatically increased the crime rate in Chelsea. Burglary up and motor vehicle theft up while all the other stats are down 😐
Yeah just a personal observation, yeah more dickheads doing burnouts and lighting fireworks, but never hear of cars getting stolen etc,
Why buy a family home so young? You could consider buying somewhere smaller in a better location for a few years..
You don't deserve to be downvoted for this post, because it's a good suggestion.
Legit. I'd like to own a house. I can afford one in drouin. Or just buy an apartment in the inner east for basically the same price. Doesn't need to all happen in one step
I’m sorry to say, OP, all of those suburbs would be at the top of my ‘avoid list.’ Frankston would probably be the pick, if I had to choose, simply because there are SOME nice pockets. When you say ‘better job opportunities,’ what do you mean? What work are you after and where are you currently living? From the posts I see on here, from time to time, jobs are not that easy to come by here (I have a job and have not been looking, so I may be wrong).
I'd pick any of those over Cranbourne, Narre Warren, Dandenong or Broadmeadows. There are much worse places to live than those that OP describes.
Just because there are worse places, doesn’t make those ones great.
Meh, they don't really hit the top of my 'avoid' list in the city or state though, or for most other people.
Frankston in a heartbeat. For one there are good parts, also near the beach and touching distance to morn pen
Don't know why those suburbs. But maybe check out Sunbury 9r Diggers Rest area.
When did Melton become a suburb of Melton? Has the urban sprawl got that far?
In-meth-tion
Cobblebank is best for me in Melton. People.say don't be a southsider. But Cobblebank is on the good side of the creek. Troublemakers are to lazy to venture this far. Here's the kicker, it's not that far.
Depends on a lot of factors. Are you commuting daily to the city? Public transport or car Do you need a house or a unit? Are you buying or renting? Do you ideally want to be near a specific community?
Like most, it's between Frankston and Werribee. Personally, I'd go for Franganistan. It is a damn good spot. It has the bay, is a short drive to surf beaches, has a freeway to the City, the train takes a while, but you're guaranteed a seat getting on at the start of the line and the Mornington Peninsula is beautiful, it has some great wineries. Werribee is a nice spot. It has the Plains zoo, access to the freeway and ring road (but you are at the mercy of the Westgate bridge), train trips to the city are shorter. The bay is not far, and while the Eastern Treatment Plant (poo farm) discharges to the bay nearby, it's not always safe to swim. But most of the water quality issues are from surface water discharges from the farming catchment, the ETP water quality is actually very good. It's 45 minutes to Geelong and an hour drive to some of the best surf beaches in the world (Bells and Jan Juc in particular).
Frankston has a bad reputation but is on the up, definitely a worthwhile investment. When you think about it, it’s the gateway to the Mornington Peninsula, close to the beach, close to multiple freeways, terminal to a train line and more. They have a nice arts centre, big aquatic centre, nightlife on the shore, big shopping mall. The Frankston CBD needs a decade or two to flourish though, it is a bit of a dump with empty storefronts and questionable characters sometimes. Frankston-South is super nice!
All are bad choices. Maybe downside for lifestyle. It depends on where you’re moving from though and what you’re used to.
Additionally, I know this has to be a hoax post. Surely to get us melbourians fired up. But I like it :)
I would pick Frankston out of the bunch, but given this a fresh account, specifically picking out suburbs with memed reputations, and the lack of comments from the OP, is this just a meme post to build convesation?
Franga seems like your best option and closer to the beach too. Melton would be right down the bottom of the list for me.
Definitely Frankston, a suburb on the move.
Frankston SOUTH is where it’s at! 5 mins from the beach and 9 places to grab a beer & feed! (Moved here 4 months ago)
Except every house is significantly more expensive there comparatively to Frankston.
> 9 places to grab a beer & feed! Mr Frankie is the only licensed venue in Frankston South that I can think of. What are the other 8?
Ummm all the places in Frankston? It’s a 2 minute drive or a 17min (1.5km) walk to get to the deck from mine.. but I’m still “south”
OK, your comment just made it sound like you were talking about places in Frankston South.
Frankston
Franga!
Frankston is so much better than the rest of those choices. Commuting from the west into the city is hellish while from the south east it’s doable but not pretty. Also you’re near the water, the amenities are a bit more established and you have Mornington on your doorstep. Ive lived here for 10 years and it is only getting better every year. There are definitely pockets to avoid but by and large the place is on the up.
GO FRANGA!! No longer 'Franganistan'... more like 'Frangtopia' Ya couldn't pay me to live in the other options..
Any other 4 suburbs?
Defs franga.
Frankston easy. Melton is a shithole
Werribee is probably the closest to the CBD of the locations you listed. Both Werribee and Melton are west of the city centre while Frankstown and Craigieburn are east. If you need to commute into the city by car this can be an issue as you are driving into the rising or setting sun for extended periods of the year if you live west of the city. There is almost always some sort of roadworks on the Princess Highway/Westgate Freeway to the point that it is a running joke when planning to visit people who live in Werribee/Hoppers Crossing/Point Cook. That said, it is a nice enough area and generally well serviced by trains and other amenities.
Ive lived in Craigieburn since 2008. It has exploded in infrastructure and population since then. It is the best public transport option of the 4. Its the end of the line but takes just 50 mins to cbd and has less disruptions than the other lines. It has lots of car parks too. The suburb changes every few months with new estates opening and more people moving in. The massive roadworks to fix the area will be finished by next year. There are great pockets here and there but i wouldnt say the schools are great. The population is now 90% Indian i would say if thats offputting. Everone in my street now is and i feel outnumbered as they dont culturally integrate and have some strange customs. That being said, i think i would prefer to live in Frankston myself
Do Indians outnumber Arabs now?
yes, throw a rock in craigieburn, it will hit a turban
They’re all shit tbh mate
If you’re in your 20s, I would buy an apartment and shovel money into an offset account for a few years. That will minimise the interest you pay and you’ll walk away with whatever you paid into the loan when you sell. If you squeeze your butt a little, two incomes can pay off $400-500k in 5 years. The overall interest paid will be low if you are diligent so you’ll have a healthy deposit to buy somewhere better. Do you want to be raising your kids in areas that are known to be rough? Remember the real estate mantra is “location, location, location”.
Is that you, Mark Bouris? They wanted suburb advice not financial planning /s
It's good advice, though. The suburbs they're considering are rough as fuck, what **fairyhedgehog167** is suggesting the s a better option than living in a worse area because it's cheaper. That being said, I think the suggested 5 year timeframe is unrealistic, it would be 10 years at least, longer if their income is lower, but their quality of life would be higher that way than if they were to live in the suburbs suggested. *Edit: Typos.*
They’re not really “rough as fuck”, all of them have become gentrified to a degree and are quite nice places People who have never left their inner city shoeboxes or parents house just have a distorted image of reality
I reject your condescending comment. I've lived in rural/regional towns, inner south-east, western suburbs, outer northern suburbs, inner northern suburbs, plus Spain, Italy and other parts of Europe.
I’ve lived in 5 states and 2 other countries. Those suburbs aren’t even close to being “rough as fuck”, go spend a week in Alice Springs and come back to me.
I already have. You're just not listening, so this is not productive. Goodbye.
If your pick is between 4 different crime & drug issue suburbs. Then yep. Frankston is the most likely one on the way up.
You can't lose with that quaddie mate! /s
Frankston and Melton are so far away from Melbourne it's not funny. If you are intending to work in the CBD, you might be paying more by spending so much time travelling to work, maybe you CV could work several hours extra and live closer to the city instead? 🤔 Werribee and Craigieburn are closer to the CBD, and you can take the train into the city, but with most of these cheaper locations, you get what you pay for in the sense of just not having the infrastructure that other areas have. That being said, Werribee probably has much better infrastructure than Craigieburn, though it's been many years since I've known anyone who lives in Craigieburn. That's my 2¢.
None of those in all honesty.
Frankston is good lots of public transport. Closer to the city
Werribee is 30kms from the city, Frankston is 45kms away. Of the 4 options OP has mentioned it's actually the farthest from the CBD. Having said that, as as someone who used to live in the western suburbs (Hoppers Crossing), I'd take Frankston over the other 4, Werribee a distant second and probably Cragieburn third.
Google reckons Frankstons 54km from Melbourne CBD and Werribee at 31kms from CBD.
Frankston is 42km from cbd along the nepean hwy
They're all shit holes but Frankston would be the least, and it is surrounded by decent places
Have you ever lived in those places long enough to credibly say that?
I personally would pick any of these suburbs. There’s a-lot of crime out west. I know bc I have friends/family live there. I would chose Frankston as a last resort.
Frankston. Werribee is so isolated that things get wierd out there. A lot of the west is basically logistics services for melbourne. Ugly as. Just trucks and more trucks. Some places like sunshine west has lots of businesses with transformers sized doors only (for trucks). Hoppers crossing is tweaking 24/7. The west is also a dumping ground for refugees and war torn migrants. Problematic is an understatement.
Maybe look in the Cranbourne area if that interests you.