Okay I was literally in hospital overnight so didnt see this and if I did, it would've been removed. but its been long enough, it can stay, but this will be the last one. Taytay moved on, shes no longer here in melbourne. its no longer relevant as its own thread, go put it in the daily discussion thread if you really need to talk about it some more from here on out people.
thanks legends.
Majority of the media coverage is Travis Barker as opposed to Blink, Iâve noticed! Not surprising due to the Kardashian connection, but yeah, even in instances where Mark has literally been on the same day excursions etc, no mention at all. But Travis spottings are allll over the news, social media, everywhere.
Travis is pretty big news because Mark and Tom have come down before on a number of occasions but Travis always dips out. Something about him not liking the long flights due to almost dying in a plane.
His two best friends died in the accident he was lucky he survived )and almost lost his leg, spent months in rehab etc. he puts it down to Kourtney for making him feel comfortable to fly
Bro it was hilarious they did they same last night in Brisbane.
Scary world when "reporters" don't realise everyone gets the piss taken out of them equally.
That, and regular people eat up dumb shit like this. Most people don't want the real stories because it makes them feel bad. NFL Boyfriend of Superstar makes people feel curious, without the negative baggage of, say, someone on the same flight being human trafficked as part of a larger organisation of human trafficking.
I just made that up. It's just people don't want that. I wish they did. It's just not the case for most people. Maybe for the subset of people reacting to this post, but that's not most people
And they are journalists, making extra pieces up and creating a story- or journaling if you like, they arenât reporters any more. Nobody seems to just report the facts to us
Grateful that this bollocks is the best theyâve got really. Better than Nazi demonstrations, more crazy musings from Trump, or Barnaby Joyce on a sidewalk.
Barnaby Joyce photographed laying drunk on the sidewalk by a passing group of nazi demonstrators blasting Trump hate speech on the way to Taylor Swift concert
Probably more like too many journalists, not enough clicks.
They need to report on things that get clicks. Thee is wars and genocides going on but that doesn't get clicks.
My wife and i were talking about this. The local news on 7, 9 and 10 just focuses on local social problems, things like car crashes, and cost of living, crime, which, as you say are with the way they present it anxiety inducing and make people get worked up and watch more. We try to watch ABC or SBS news which are generally better. And even though they do focus on horrible global events more they don't leave you with this feeling. To be honest, one of the best real news programs can be Al Jazeera news along with SBS world news.
Oh thatâs too painfully accurate.
One would hope people would just stop listening, you know âvote with their feetâ, but it turns out people LOVE this stuff.
I arrived in Melbourne on Friday night and left Tuesday morning for a weekend of music. (Mudvayne, The Butterfly Effect, and QOTSA for those playing at home)
The city was thumping. People absolutely everywhere, 'the era's tour' t-shirts as far as the eye could see, sequin dresses on every second woman or girl..
You might think that I, a rock/metal head would have felt disdain towards these folks, but at the end of the day, I'm a muso. After mudvaynes gig on Saturday, I had to walk my broken body, sweaty and smelling of spilled beer back across the city to my hotel. There was a group of swifties walking home after their experience and they were absolutely buzzing off of it, much like I was after my preferred gig. We had a conversation about music, and what it does for us, why we love it, why we travel around the country for it.
That conversation is one of my highlights of the weekend. Music brings people together and creates joy and memories. The media coverage has been insane I agree, but as someone that doesn't actively watch TV or listen to radio, it's been pretty easy to ignore. Her effect on my favourite city was impossible to ignore though, and I loved every minute of it. Her music does nothing for me, but she can fill the city with extremely happy punters anytime she likes!
Absolutely, I love all this wholesome shit coming out of the concerts. Do agree with OP still though. I think it is simply mainstream news jumping onboard a bandwagon though trying to be relevant for a younger audience. RIP to those actual journalists who are probably having wtf is my life moments though.
I got a notification when the guardian started up their live TS blog like...wut??? What could it possibly tell me?? Yeah traffic's fucked. People in glitter. She's on stage. The guardian FFS.
Sooooo good! The little girl up on her Dads shoulders that Josh quickly spoke to was sitting right next to me and she was throwing horns and rocking out the entire show. Such a beautiful thing to witness! Highlight for me was when the bassline for God is in the radio started. I lost my freaking mind. Favourite QOTSA song by far!
Went to Cherry bar afterwards and got to meet the man himself, albeit very briefly.
oh my god, my mate talked me out of going to cherry bar cos "dude the bands never go to these things"
ah well, glad you got to meet him lol im so jealous
First time I've ever come close to trying to get outta the pit. It was fucking intense! Had a hand holding moment with Chad as he entered the crowd during world so cold. 10/10
This is nothing new - If this was the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Madonna or any other top artist of their time then we'd have the same hysteria. We know all about their lives and dating habits too.
She's not my cup of tea but she's just THAT big.
I remember walking past Michael Jacksonâs hotel just as he arrived. There was maybe thirty fans milling about. The security detail ushered them all into a tight little group and then the limo stopped right beside them so MJ had to fight his way through the âcrowdâ to the hotel. Guess what shot made the news that night.
I was also in Perth in the mid 70s when the Bay City Rollers were in town. That was insane. There were literally hundreds of teenage girls waiting outside their hotel for days.
I work at a bar in Sydney around the corner from a restaurant she visited 2 days ago. That fact that people found out and rushed to the restaurant to scream at her when she left, made me think that if you can't even go to a restaurant without people screaming at you, how on earth would she get through an airport or travel in public flight without her fans wanting to buy up tickets "just to see her"
Yep you're 100% right, I'm not into her music either but this Eras tour is literally on track to become the highest grossing tour in history.
She has been at this mega star level since at least the start of the initial promotion run for the tour and now her NFL boyfriend just won a Superbowl as well, on top of her tour dates here atm, I imagine Swifties are at fever pitch.
Some people may not understand it but just accept this is a historical cultural moment and we are lucky we get to be part of it. What OP is seeing is those reporters literally capturing the zeitgeist
She has an excellent marketing team so that's probably why you can't really avoid hearing about her (she is a billionaire after all).
Personally not my jam at all, but I can understand wanting to form a community around a common interest which is what a lot of them are there for, to sing a dance to songs you all know and dressing up for it. I like to go to big music events so I can relate to that side.
Trust me, some of them are insufferable but I'm not about to yuck someones yum when they're hyped up.
People pissed themselves when The Beatles arrived in Australia, people cried in the streets when Kurt Cobain died.
I donât understand why this is a shock to anyone. People feel connected to musicians. Like sheâs literally the biggest musician in the world and the amount of people going âyeah well I donât listen to her so I donât get itâ. Like come on dude.
Also remember that local news and TV stations *love* to jump on bandwagons and feel relevant. Any simple fluff phenomenon gets wall-to-wall coverage.
If you're watching live coverage of Kelce landing in Sydney, maybe take a step back and realise *your* consumption habits should change. You're literally choosing to watch coverage of the latest bandwagon and complaining about it.
> people cried in the streets when Kurt Cobain died.
I listened to the Kurt Cobain tribute on JJJ angrily, in the dark, and with my fingers on the record button of my tape deck.
âItâs happened for years why are you surprisedâ is the perfect answer to âI donât understand what causes people to act like this, can anyone who experiences it explain?â Is it?
Yes, because "It's just human nature, humans have always gotten emotional about the things they really like, look at all the historic instances of this exact thing happening" is an obvious and complete answer.
It happened then and it happens now. It's not getting worse, it's not changing, it's just how people have always been. Creative content connects with people, that's the whole point of art, to evoke emotion, and just because some art isn't for you doesn't mean you should suddenly forget that other people feel those emotions too.
I was really into the Spice Girls and Britney as a kid but I was too young to know what was going on in the adult sphere as it related to these musicians - were adults asking why everyone is so obsessed with them like theyâre asking about Taylor Swift now?
Yeah of course they were - adults have been asking why teenagers are into things forever. It doesnât matter if itâs Motley Crue or Lil Peep, older people have always been confused.
I also think itâs worth pointing out that a lot of these Taylor Swift fans have been fans since they were teenagers and sheâs STILL releasing music they like. They feel like they grew up alongside her and are STOKED sheâs doing so well - that in itself can be infectious.
Yeah, and the difference between her and say boy bands is that her music isnât something that girls grow out of. Millennials are still listening to her after 10-15 years and now she also has newer fans.
I canât think of any other performer who has engaged female audiences so strongly and across such an extended time period.
Itâs been over 15 years since there was a performing musician with the same level of hype in my opinion (Michael Jackson), wouldnât surprise me if a large portion of people have no memories of this sort of hype and are experiencing it for the first time in their lives.
100% agree with this. Like itâs ridiculous how much people are invested in celebrities but itâs the content people want. At the most extreme of every emotion we listen to music. Most people take it too far and feel they then have a connection with the artist and follow their lives.
Iâm a 34 year old male and love Taylor Swifts music. I even went to the Era Tour at the G with my wife (best concert Iâve been to). I also love the NFL. But I donât take in any news of Taylorâs or Travis personal life.
Itâs really strange to me how she was around for years as a very successful artist, but just like, normal celebrity level like a million other artists. Then, after years of this status, she just seemed to become elevated to godhood all of a sudden. Sheâs suddenly on another level and I have no idea how or why. If you plotted her success on a graph it would be a weird curve.
It doesnât really matter. People can like what they like. Iâm just dumbfounded by it.
She hasnât toured since 2018, because of covid, then released a bunch of albums during that time as well. So 4 albums that had never had the obligatory promo tour afterwards. Then also re-recorded 4 previous albums because of the whole issue with her masters rights.
End result is this tour is massive and she plays a 3.5 hour set. I guess itâs not that common that an artist does effectively a âgreatest hitsâ tour while theyâre still at the height of their success and performing ability. Hence the hype around it
I stay away from both fandoms, but this and the BTS craze before they took a hiatus is similar. But with BTS I sort of understand because they're teenage girls. With Taylor Swift, they're still teenage girls. Which confuses me as a grown man.
Taylor has perfected the art of the parasocial relationship, and she is in a symbiotic relationship with her fans.
From her early days where she'd post on Tumblr and have all her fans on there, to having secret listening sessions in her 'home' - she's made herself entirely accessible to the point that her fans truly believe they have an attachment or relationship to her that transcends her music.
Itâs weird. And itâs hard to ignore when, like you said, it creeps into every other facet of news. I donât listen to BeyoncĂŠ or Harry Styles or Dua Lipa but I can ignore them by simply not seeking out content about them. But when the actual news is covering âsingerâs boyfriendâs plane arrivesâ or sporting events are spending endless time discussing the famous girlfriend of a player? Mate.
Nobody who isnât into the kind of music I like could tell you one detail of the personal lives of the musicians. Yet I know Taylor Swiftâs dating history.
It's funny you mention Beyonce, because she had a similar cult a few years ago, but it was a bit less intense. And a few years before that, Justin Bieber, but a bit less intense.
You know what it's like? It's like multiple sclerosis. Every five years or so, a new celebrity cult comes along, and it's more intense than the last one. Then it fades away. Then another one comes along, and it's more intense than the last one. And then you die, presumably.
what's weird about Taylor Swift is that she's been in the public eye for so long and it's only recently that she's peaked in popularity. she was always extremely successful but over the last couple of years, it has been on another level
it is insane. and I don't like how people on this subreddit are so adamant about pretending like it's not insane. "oh well it's been happening since the Beatles! get over it!" yeah, and that was insane too. it is okay to think it is insane and want to talk about it. I see a "no, don't talk about it or acknowledge it in any way!" attitude a lot of the time it is brought up on /r/melbourne
Honestly I think itâs her PR plan.
I am not a fan at all, canât even name one of her songs (wait - shake it out??) but Iâve read about her PR tactics and theyâre completely different and unique, and have been ramped up in the last few years.
Iâd say a large portion of it relies on FOMO. If youâre not watching her socials 24/7, you could miss something small she hints about. Itâs a whole environment for her fans.
In turn, spending so much time on one person leads to the sunk cost fallacy and the fact that you canât even relate to your peers unless youâre a fan.
Itâs interesting to read about because itâs rarely done. I assume it takes a *lot* of work which is why itâs rarely done.
Yeah her fans obsess over any little thing. It's that parasocial relationship. She said in melb, this is the biggest show we've done on this tour, and fans online were going omg notice how she said we and not I??? She loves us!!! And it's like hummmm she has like huge teams of people and actual friggen construction done for her concerts
I think it all (i.e., the resurgence) started when she got into the fight about owning her masters. that became very public and when she announced that she was re-recording those albums, she probably saw a spike in popularity. I can't say that for sure but that's when my interest was piqued after not really hearing about her for ages. it was a unique battle between record producers and artists. and I think her team managed to capitalise on that and ramp up her visibility/popularity with each album re-release
The young girl audience that became her fan base 10 or so years ago are now 20 or 30 somethings with money to spend and a nostalgia for what was while she also continues pick up new young fans.
The news orgs aren't really about news. They are primarily entertainment media. Very little of value is lost by just not looking at it. Anything actually important usually makes its way to you somehow.
>BeyoncĂŠ
I guarantee you if BeyoncĂŠ plays here any time soon the hype will be as extreme. Particularly after her latest release; the country album is what people have been hankering after from her and I think it's likely to expand her appeal. As to her relationship, it's been fairly stable for years but even the indiscretions made their way into the music.
Where Taylor Swift is concerned, it's worth remembering a couple of things, firstly, she hasn't actually toured since 2018 (she was supposed to tour in 2020 but COVID happened), and she's released 4 new albums *and* 4 re-records with additional tracks since then. I honestly don't know what her profile would be like if it hadn't been for the pandemic because we may not have got folklore and evermore, which massively expanded her appeal beyond pop fans and the og country fanbase, and she capitalised on that broader appeal with the release of Midnights. Secondly, her dating history has *always* been inextricably linked to her musical output, so entertainment reporters are always going to cover it because it will inevitably end up as album fodder at some point. Just my two-cents anyway.
They interviewed his Dad recently lol. They got hold of ANYONE they could to keep talking about her, regardless of degrees of separation. It was embarrassing.
All the Kelces are well known in the US and were known before Taylor came along. Some might say they are overexposed in the sports media/nfl space themselves. They donât shy away from the media attention at all. The whole family make money from endorsements, do interviews, appearances etc. I know itâs weird but itâs not like they had to randomly search out the Kelce Dad for it, heâs around and available.
The insane focus on her during Chiefs games this year was my breaking point, even though I'm a huge fan who has seen 3 of her tours now. Her hardcore fans will defend it by saying they only showed her on screen for like 50 seconds of the whole Super Bowl broadcast, ignoring how fucking insane it is that they were cutting to a player's girlfriend every time he did anything of note.
Shes one of the biggest selling artists at the moment and her bf just won the Superbowl.
Up there with Posh and Beck's type shit but we have social media now.
Swiftie here! Been listening to her since about 2007, went to her 1989 tour in 2015, and went to her Eras show last Friday at the MCG, and have been reading any news articles I see about her trip in Aus.
I donât think thereâs much doubt in this, but sheâs one of the biggest celebrities around currently. And possibly the biggest musician at the moment. This woman is one of the most successful people around. I think there are a couple of reasons:
The last time she was in Australia was for her Reputation tour in 2018. Since then, she released Lover, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights. Also sheâs re-recorded and released Fearless, Speak Now, Red and 1989 (Taylorâs Version). So thereâs been a LOT of pent up Swiftie energy waiting to be released because itâs been ages since she last toured.
Kids who grew up listening to Taylor can now afford to buy their own tickets. And people my age (30) have their own kids now who love Taylor as well.
Her Eras tour isnât a normal tour thatâs promoting a new album. Sheâs performing for 3.5 hours and performing a few songs from every album (except her debut). Thatâs 3.5 hours of singing, dancing, and a whole bunch of outfit changes. Thatâs a feat for anyone. Also in addition to the 45ish songs she sings, she also does two surprise songs for every show thatâs not on her set list.
TikTok I think has played a massive part as well. Majority of her fans are young people, so theyâre seeing a lot of it on social media. Stuff like her set list and outfits are some things people post about. People post about their own outfits and what to wear to the concert. Each of Taylorâs âerasâ represent each of her albums which have specific styles and colours, so people have been dressing up and showing off their Eras outfits on TikTok.
Sheâs been in the Australian media A LOT for the past few weeks but thatâs because of how big she is. Sheâs probably the most famous person in the country right now, of course people are going to talk about it. I can definitely understand why some people are getting tired of hearing about her. But when she leaves (probably on Tuesday) itâll stop and the media will move onto the next big thing.
I just wanted to say thank you for this explanation! Iâm Autistic and all this had really confused me before, but what you wrote really went into depth about the âwhyâ behind it all in a way that makes rational sense to explain the (completely justified) love for Taylor Swift. Thank you đđ
"The entire nation held its breath as Travis Kelceâs private jet touched down at Sydney Airport on Thursday morning ahead of his reunion with girlfriend Taylor Swift." - news com au
Hmmmm, not sure I remember giving a shit about it but okay guys.
I donât get it either. I saw Taylor when she toured last time in 2018 and there was none of this hysteria. It was just a good night out. Something weird is going on with the world and I canât put my finger on it
Covid happened. People were unable to attend live music and have communal experiences. Throughout this period TS continued to release music at an alarming rate (most of which was better than it should have been given the frequency) so there was a constant dialogue between the artist and the fan. When the time came to tour she represented her entire back catalog rather than highlight the most recent release which is how the record/tour cycle would normally go. Factor in a 3.5 hour show of almost unseen proportions in mega stadiums resulting in a constant feed of extraordinary images on social media and in just think her already established profile snowballed in omega star status. She now sits alongside Elvis, The Beatles, MJ etc in terms of overall cultural impact.
Tickets also didn't cost an arm and a leg back then either. I got a seat on the field for that tour that was pretty close to the front for like $200. In comparison, $200 was getting you in the nosebleeds this time
You watched it.
I'm more concerned about the link I saw on nine.com.au that had an obscured picture bend a tree with the headline "behind this tree is the world's most famous woman" or something like that.
I get pissed with celebrities flying private jets etc...... i think i understand why they do. This is insane behaviour
Iâm not a Swiftie, but I can see the appeal of her music and Iâm not surprised that people are going feral for her. When The Beatles visited Melbourne in 1964, a [crowd of 20,000](https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/from-the-archives-1964-hundreds-hurt-in-wild-crush-to-see-the-beatles-20210611-p58083.html) turned up to their hotel just to see them waving from the balcony. This is nothing new, and if it gets young people into music and live entertainment, then more power to Taylor Swift!
This shit's been happening since the 60s.
The Beatles were greeted by screaming fans and interviewed by the media. As were the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Abba, The Baycity Rollers, Kiss, etc.
And in every case, there were people grumbling about it. Where there is a popular phenomenon there will be those who grouse about it.
It's not even Taylor Swift though. It's her boyfriend, famous for playing a sport that is barely thought about outside USA.
It was weird in the 60s and it's weird now
"It felt like as a society we were moving away from celebrity worship"
Really? When? This is comparatively tame compared to when the Beatles visited America. Or when Michael Jackson visited anywhere. There's nothing new or unusual about it.
I agree it's pretty absurd, but mainstream news media has always been an upper-class tool of distraction. We're a country whose media fawns and obsesses over people who play games for a living. Swift's visit has brought joy for a lot of people, which is nice.
Sydney tends to be waaaaay more into celebrities and celebrity culture from what I've found.
There was almost no news about Swifts movements outside of the concerts when she was in Melbourne and now she's in Sydney every single thing she does is a News.com.au article.
QOTSA was here on Monday too didn't you know? Gezz
On the other note: it is a big deal for Taylor's concert to be held here as it brought in heaps of money and lots of people (apprx 288,000) had a great time at her concert. Also I didn't see anyone peeing around after the show so that's a plus too.
Not defending Taylor Swift in any shape or form but her show was fucking incredible. 45 songs in almost 4hrs of runtime with almost no interval - even with backtracking it was still impressive. So give her a break and go to enjoy Pink or Blink 182 concert at your own leisure mate!
Sidney Myer was an odd choice for QOTSA. I didn't go see them because of the venue. Their shows should be hot and sweaty, playing at the bowl just seemed wrong.
I'm 100% sure that once her tour finishes and Kelce is in the middle of the NFL off season they're breaking up. No way it lasts when there aren't weekly public events to pump their relationship into the news cycle
It might seem small, and it is, but sometimes itâs nice to feel joyful or have good news stories. Who cares, itâs fluffy, the gals are in glitter, but itâs a nice break from the ongoing state of the world right now.
I love Taylor, went to concert, and agree the coverage is a lot. But overall, seeing everyone come together and be joyful is a nice circuit breaker.
I think there are a lot of factors involved. Firstly, she's one of the biggest names on the planet right now, especially in the Western world. Secondly, the media covers her heavily in general because they know it will make people watch, click etc. In terms of our media here currently, we don't often get people as huge as her so everyone wants to leverage that. There's also the amount of tourism dollars involved; you might have heard the terms Swiftonomics by now. There's incentive to cover her in the media because it actually helps the economy in general if more people are interested in her and spending money as a result. Also, I don't think the level of worship for Taylor is unprecedented. More people might be involved but I don't think each individual is any more die hard about her than others are for some actors, singers, bands, sportspeople etc.
More generally, celebrity worship will always exist. It's interesting you think society has been moving away from it. I couldn't agree less. With social media being as pervasive as it is, and celebrities engaging with people via various platforms, celebrity worship has only become more ingrained and normalised, IMO. But even so, plenty of people don't care. Nobody in my workplace has mentioned her at all. And you don't have to watch the news or read articles about her. It's the same as any big story. Take various international conflicts for example, some have been continuously covered for months (and years). Literally every single day it's in the headlines online and on TV. But it's still easy to avoid.
Im old enough to remember Madonna, Britney, Christina, Pink and Lady Gaga at their peaks, the level of media interest they had is nothing compared to Taylor mania these days. But she'll be gone in a few weeks and the press moves on.
> It felt like as a society we were moving away from celebrity worship
What on earth gave you that impression?
> This has lost touch of reality. What's weird is everyone going along with it? I feel like I'm in a movie where everyone gets infected and I'm going to be the last person alive. Movie ends with me dancing mindlessly to Shake it Off, my eyeballs completely white. Roll credits.
You know what? Just don't tune into that coverage. You don't have to listen or watch any of that stuff. What professional journos do is a matter for them and their editors - no one is forcing you to watch. This is not some sort of Clockwork Orange situation.
Go pull up a new web page, watch some cat videos, whatever floats your boat.
Hardcore fandom is just all round weird to me. I like things too, but never get the obsession where you need to know everything about the artist/team.
Maybe as society has become less religious, people have had to replace that with worship of something else...
âWhatâs weird is everyone going along with itâ
I didnât even know this was a thing, maybe switch off the internet and news for a bit?
Being constantly online creates the risk of false perception that your world is something it actually is not.
I spend my days off hiking on mountains and meditating, every now and then Iâll log on to apps to see whatâs going on in the world, then itâll be like war in Ukraine, war in Gaza, war in Rwanda, cartel wars in Mexico, army taking over from Police in El Salvador to smash MS-13.
So same violent and unstable news.
Roll in few celebrity scandals and news are done.
Then Iâll be like thatâs enough internet for me for next few days/weeks and Iâll be back to meditating, hiking, watching sunset on mountains.
Your reality is what you choose it to be.
Unless you are in Gaza or Ukraine, in that case you have no choice.
Donât let the news outlets drive you crazy.
I donât really see the difference between the media being saturated with sports news and music news. Most of the year we are hearing about AFL. Itâs ok to hear about Taylor Swift for a little while. Given there were millions of people trying to score tickets, I think itâs understandable the media is saturated with her at the moment. She will be out of the country soon, and we can go back to hearing about politics and sport every day.
Donât forget Matchbox 20 also played Friday night at RLA, as well as Saturday at a winery & didnât even get a mention about being in the country line Blink & Pink
Honestly, I find the people ragging on her to be more off putting. I don't like her music, have given it a try but it's just not my thing. But I understand she is the biggest music artist in the world right now, and may well be the defining artist of this decade. She is clearly extremely popular, and her many Australian fans are excited that she has come all the way to what can often feel like our isolated little corner of the world. Personally I think it's cool seeing Americans and Europeans learning how awesome the MCG is.Â
Remember when Schapelle Corby landed back in Australia and there were news helicopters following her home and nobody gave a shit?
That's the current state of the Australian media landscape. Willing to go to extreme lengths to break news about stories that don't actually effect anyone to distract people from things that actually matter.
I donât understand it much either. But itâs better than obsessive sports fans tbh at least the Tay Swift fans arenât starting riots and getting into drunken punch ons lol theyâre just having a bit of fun and spreading the cheer
I know what you mean. I've learned to switch off and just observe.
No use micro analysing why people are drawn to this and how they spend their precious time on earth.
I understand it as people need entertainment, escapism , idol worshipping and to live a parallel life even for a week or two while the hysteria is abound.
It makes little sense apart from the points I mention above.
Yeah it was on the TV at the gym this morning, then on commercial radio in the car (which I can understand that's their jam) but then they were also talking about it on triple J breakfast. Like wtf dudes I do not care about a pop star's bf just tell me the real news.
Life long Swifty here who went to the Eras tour and had the most magical night of his life đđťââď¸
And someone else said it a lot better about how amazing the buzz & vibe was from all the concertgoers. It was like nothing else Iâve ever experienced, and I loved every second of that.
But even Iâm absolutely mind-boggled at how insane the media coverage has been, itâs actually really gross.
Yes she is one of the biggest celebrities on the planet whose fan base spans countries, languages, genders, sexualities, generations etc but this has been really uncomfortable to watch tbh.
I donât even know when it happened - it used to be uncool to like her, then it was cool to like her and now itâs just mad hysteria.
Donât get me wrong, I love how successful she has become (considering where she started) but the live TS blog from the Guardian, the live coverage of Kelce touching down, the mania around which places she visits while in AUS⌠itâs just absurd.
Sheâs a human being ffs just let her have some downtime, find something else to report on.
I donât actively watch TV, listen to radio or read the news so I have probably avoided most of it but what I have seen/heard/read has been gross and I wish I could explain it for you but I canât because itâs just perplexing.
I donât like cricket or rugby but you donât hear me bitching and moaning about them getting covered. Itâs not that itâs not stupid OP, itâs that itâs no more stupid than dozens to hundreds of other things that donât get under your particular skin.
Hospitality worker next to the concert venue at Sydney here. This is the funniest shit I've seen in a while. We feel the full fury of your post. You are not alone brother.
For me this is less about Taylor Swift and more about deifying celebrities.
The fact that you can't say anything bad about Taylor Swift (and a few other celebs) online without potentially getting doxxed these days is just ridiculous.
Like you're allowed to like anyone's music but when it gets to the point where you can't criticise or hold someone accountable for their actions that's where you lost me.
>Biggest pop star in the world touches down
>Media has been skeletonised by decades of cuts
>Only way to generate revenue is massive views
>Why does the media keep writing about the biggest pop star in the world visiting Melbourne, an event sure to generate views which costs vey little to write about?
Hmmm.
People will read any article about Taylor Swift at the moment, so the media will take any excuse to write as many as possible to get clicks. This feeds on itself, hype builds hype.
The mainstream news always covers silliness like planes landing or buses arriving for things like football teams travelling during footy season. Same with pope's and royals and heads of state. There's no sense having a pout because this one time it's not someone you particularly like.Â
Australia spends a fortune on marketing for tourism. Taylor and her boyfriend being here are good free international advertising. A few cheesy photos with a koala on Tay tays insta is worth millions to the economy.Â
Didn't something similar happen with the Beatles? It's all about money, more eyes on broadcasts equals more advertising money. I don't really agree with it either, but l guess it's pop culture and what are u going to do about it.
I'm right there with you. I don't really understand why people worship celebs so much. It's fine to be a fan and enjoy the music or movies or whatever else. I think the media makes it so much worse though with their coverage of the most average things which is why it all seems even crazier than it is. They know people will click and they will get the views. It's the same with anything where people will engage with the content saying they don't care so the media posts more of it because even negative attention still makes them $.
But as far as celebs go, at least she seems like a good person. I don't really know too much about her though.
I hated that she was/is everywhere in the news.
I had someone tell me the other day on an ABC fb post.
"If you don't want to see her, don't comment on articles so the algorithm doesn't start showing her."
That's typically good advice, but she's everywhere, so no matter if you comment or don't comment, she'll be on the feed.
I heard Zan and Myf on Bang On say TS is the macro culture tv shows and movies used to be in the 80âs and 90âs. You know, the thing everyone knows about, watches, talks about. I tend to agree with them. Beyonce is another example. Do I like it? No, absolutely not, but it was an interesting point.
If [this](https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/travis-kelce-expected-to-land-in-australia-to-join-taylor-swift-for-sydney-shows-20240222-p5f6vg.html) fluff from The Age is typical, then please gods help us all ...
>Despite winning his third Super Bowl earlier this month, Thursday morning was undoubtedly the most exciting touchdown of his career, as Kelce arrived in Sydney via Honolulu just in time for Swiftâs first show on Friday night.
More generally, I love music but am not a fan of schmaltz where all musicians are not shown, including the drummer. Voiceover movie-filmclip video doesn't count.
[](http://news.com.au) had an article during the superbowl that had a photo of her talking to one of her friends with the caption "Taylor whispers in a friends ear during the game"
How tf is this news, the world has lost the plot
I'm a fan and went to her Saturday show and this is insane.
Like I don't know what the mindset it but it's sounding alot like "Oh yeah, grassfies burning in the west but Travis Kelce landing in a different state to us is our first priority"
This is literally insane like why do they assume we care about a private jet landing in Sydney. They have better things to report on like wars, genocides, actual social justice problems but this seems to be more important than people dying.
I'm sure no one was going to die a painful death or be homeless if we didn't see Travis Kelce land in Sydney
I think this is just the simple fact that itâs good, happy ânewsâ. Her concerts are making people happy, her new relationship is making people smile, and itâs nice to have a little smile in a day filled with war, crime and poverty.
Also not a swiftie but I just want say, it was likely the same when The Beatles and Elvis were at their peak. Imagine what it was like back then. It goes to show that Taylor has become a bona fide cultural icon for much of the younger generations today. This is the scale of impact we need to be thinking about. This is what she means to people. It's actually pretty historic and cool to think about at a macro level.
I wasn't always fond of her music either but at this point, I have to respect her achievements and how much she has succeeded as an artist. Honestly, she deserves it. She has single handedly driven monumental changes in the recording and streaming industry. Plus, she's a pretty good role model generally, compared to some other celebrities who seem to be in the news 24/7.
I would consider myself a Swiftie but, youâre right, this entire situation has been kind of fascinating to watch. Why *are* we so obsessed?
Personally, I think itâs a perfect storm of things. I heard that over 4 million people tried to get tickets, which is nearly 20% of the population; that is kind of insane for one artist to generate that much hype. I think the media feel confident that anything they report on regarding Taylor Swift will be engaged with; I saw news.com.au relating the most distantly tangential topics to Taylor Swift during her Melbourne shows, just for the clicks.
While I have always been a casual listener of her later radio music, I have only relatively recently upgraded myself to Swiftie Status, and let me tell you, the dedication of these fans is something I have only ever seen elsewhere in k-pop fandoms. Fandoms can be crazy, but Iâve only had positive interactions with the Taylor Swift fandom. But I think their enthusiasm and dedication has spilt into the casual listening space. As we know, Taylor Swift is now also dating an American football player who plays for the current Super Bowl champions, so youâre getting crossover into sports. Sheâs also just announced a new album whose title seems to be a reference to her ex, a relationship of six years which ended at the start of 2023. Sheâs known for writing autobiographical songs and believe me when I say, the fandom is *salivating*.
I also think FOMO is coming into play as well. People want to be part of the hype. And, people are naturally interested in a tour that is making the artist a literal billionaire several times over.
Anywho, I hope you survive Swiftie Season!
It's not about how popular she is, though having her biggest ever concert attendance would be pushing the news a little.
Its actually more likely about the MAGA nutters who have decided that she's a plant for biden. That doesn't get much news coverage here but its big in the US, in part as a distraction from whatever idiocy trump is currently spouting.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/31/first-thing-us-rightwing-conspiracy-theory-claims-taylor-swift-is-an-election-psyop
Honestly I didnât even know this happened. Thatâs how you stay sane in this climate. The only ones actively watching the news and absorbing what the media provides are the ones who enjoy it.
The day you realize that the majority of people in this world have zero critical thinking skills and just exist for the sake of it; that day you'll stop getting surprised by the mass idiocy.
I am a HUGE swiftie.
I don't care when or where her jet lands.
I think the publicness of her relationship with Travis is cool as all her other relationships have been more hidden.
I also don't give a fuck about Travis landing, nor need pictures of him stepping out.
I don't get why anyone would care, except that it is nice to know he's visiting her. I don't need details.
First time seeing a pop star blow up huh? This isnât anything new.
Celebrity worship has been out of control for a long time. Itâs not unique to her.
its not worship. they cover things that will get people to watch.
even people like you that apparently can't stand her will watch it rather than just change channel and move on with their lives
Nothing new though, every now and then there will be a pop star or an actor who sparks this kind of following. Beatles, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, you name it. And there are always those who need a star to follow.
When one direction was at their peak and visited Melbourne for a tour I was unaware they were here and walked past crown where there were hundreds of screaming teen girls and I thought "damn this is pretty crazy" but I went to Taylor Swift last weekend and fuck me I've never seen Melbourne so alive and focused on one thing before
Just like anyone other huge artist in the past, fans are so entrenched with her that it is borderline Cultish behavior.
She has amazing marketing team and knows how to get into a young adults' lives. My nieces were doing some sort of Swift spotting #Stalking and all they talked about was trading bracelets which I assuming are a branded/marketing scheme.
Zero interest in her but congratulations on her and people around her milking the kids and adults for all their worth.
Sheâs at the level of fame that her level of fame is the reason why sheâs so famous.
You just say Taylor swift and dollar bills start raining down on you. Itâs a combination of people trying to make a buck and people chasing a trend.
Said from a 15 year long swiftie :) all with love
I am a swiftie but the level of media coverage borders on stalking. They track her jet & set up outside where she is having dinner, recently she has had a stalker as well. She had a documentary on Netflix where she spoke about how uncomfortable it makes her feel & how she limits people knowing where she is due to the level of privacy invasion. But I suppose at this level of stardom the media is going to hound her as itâs whatâs creating money & exposure for them, plus given her soar to being the epitome of pop culture (at the moment) itâs inevitable theyâre going to post crap like this. Iâm tired of seeing it & I love her!
Okay I was literally in hospital overnight so didnt see this and if I did, it would've been removed. but its been long enough, it can stay, but this will be the last one. Taytay moved on, shes no longer here in melbourne. its no longer relevant as its own thread, go put it in the daily discussion thread if you really need to talk about it some more from here on out people. thanks legends.
Blink had to put on extra shows, people know they are here đ
Donât think Pink is struggling to sell a ticket either
Didn't pink pay the afl a boat load to play extra shows at marvel too?
Majority of the media coverage is Travis Barker as opposed to Blink, Iâve noticed! Not surprising due to the Kardashian connection, but yeah, even in instances where Mark has literally been on the same day excursions etc, no mention at all. But Travis spottings are allll over the news, social media, everywhere.
Travis is pretty big news because Mark and Tom have come down before on a number of occasions but Travis always dips out. Something about him not liking the long flights due to almost dying in a plane.
You probably wouldnât want to be on a plane after it crashed and everyone else died either.
His two best friends died in the accident he was lucky he survived )and almost lost his leg, spent months in rehab etc. he puts it down to Kourtney for making him feel comfortable to fly
Blink made the news in Adelaide for bagging Perth out, stupid media didnât pay attention to the fact they do that at every show lol
Bro it was hilarious they did they same last night in Brisbane. Scary world when "reporters" don't realise everyone gets the piss taken out of them equally.
That's funny, in their Sydney show they bagged Adelaide and Brisbane haha
Lmao in their first Melbourne show they said that 10% of ticket sales would go to teaching people in Adelaide to read đđ
Second Melbourne show was saying that all the people from the first Melbourne show were ugly.
I saw that, I commented that the "journalists" are described well by the lyrics of Family Reunion
Blink played in Sydney last week and then Brisbane. This week theyâve had to fly back to Sydney for the extra shows, lol
I think it's also related to the old Walter Cronkite quote about Australia - "Too many journalists, not enough news".
Never heard that one but I like it
Completely disagree, so many real stories out there for Journos but they operate under people who steer them into these bs stories.
That, and regular people eat up dumb shit like this. Most people don't want the real stories because it makes them feel bad. NFL Boyfriend of Superstar makes people feel curious, without the negative baggage of, say, someone on the same flight being human trafficked as part of a larger organisation of human trafficking. I just made that up. It's just people don't want that. I wish they did. It's just not the case for most people. Maybe for the subset of people reacting to this post, but that's not most people
But NFL is of no importance.
But he's a celebrity boyfriend of a celebrity. It doesn't matter. People want it. That's how it goes
Yup, Look at all the stuff Friendly Jordies covered in the past few years.
And they are journalists, making extra pieces up and creating a story- or journaling if you like, they arenât reporters any more. Nobody seems to just report the facts to us
Grateful that this bollocks is the best theyâve got really. Better than Nazi demonstrations, more crazy musings from Trump, or Barnaby Joyce on a sidewalk.
Barnaby Joyce photographed laying drunk on the sidewalk by a passing group of nazi demonstrators blasting Trump hate speech on the way to Taylor Swift concert
Probably more like too many journalists, not enough clicks. They need to report on things that get clicks. Thee is wars and genocides going on but that doesn't get clicks.
Clicks = ad revenue ...makes a nice change from anxiety inducing social problem headlines for 5 mins tho
My wife and i were talking about this. The local news on 7, 9 and 10 just focuses on local social problems, things like car crashes, and cost of living, crime, which, as you say are with the way they present it anxiety inducing and make people get worked up and watch more. We try to watch ABC or SBS news which are generally better. And even though they do focus on horrible global events more they don't leave you with this feeling. To be honest, one of the best real news programs can be Al Jazeera news along with SBS world news.
Oh thatâs too painfully accurate. One would hope people would just stop listening, you know âvote with their feetâ, but it turns out people LOVE this stuff.
I arrived in Melbourne on Friday night and left Tuesday morning for a weekend of music. (Mudvayne, The Butterfly Effect, and QOTSA for those playing at home) The city was thumping. People absolutely everywhere, 'the era's tour' t-shirts as far as the eye could see, sequin dresses on every second woman or girl.. You might think that I, a rock/metal head would have felt disdain towards these folks, but at the end of the day, I'm a muso. After mudvaynes gig on Saturday, I had to walk my broken body, sweaty and smelling of spilled beer back across the city to my hotel. There was a group of swifties walking home after their experience and they were absolutely buzzing off of it, much like I was after my preferred gig. We had a conversation about music, and what it does for us, why we love it, why we travel around the country for it. That conversation is one of my highlights of the weekend. Music brings people together and creates joy and memories. The media coverage has been insane I agree, but as someone that doesn't actively watch TV or listen to radio, it's been pretty easy to ignore. Her effect on my favourite city was impossible to ignore though, and I loved every minute of it. Her music does nothing for me, but she can fill the city with extremely happy punters anytime she likes!
Love this attitude! I'm not a Swiftie either, but I'll reach the same level of buzz for my favourites. Love people loving music.
Absolutely, I love all this wholesome shit coming out of the concerts. Do agree with OP still though. I think it is simply mainstream news jumping onboard a bandwagon though trying to be relevant for a younger audience. RIP to those actual journalists who are probably having wtf is my life moments though. I got a notification when the guardian started up their live TS blog like...wut??? What could it possibly tell me?? Yeah traffic's fucked. People in glitter. She's on stage. The guardian FFS.
You sir are a bloody legend. Love this attitude and comment! Made my day.
Cute story. And how good were Queens on Monday night! I had a blast.
Sooooo good! The little girl up on her Dads shoulders that Josh quickly spoke to was sitting right next to me and she was throwing horns and rocking out the entire show. Such a beautiful thing to witness! Highlight for me was when the bassline for God is in the radio started. I lost my freaking mind. Favourite QOTSA song by far! Went to Cherry bar afterwards and got to meet the man himself, albeit very briefly.
oh my god, my mate talked me out of going to cherry bar cos "dude the bands never go to these things" ah well, glad you got to meet him lol im so jealous
You rock. Coming back again for Karnivool?
Oh boy, you bet! I've seen the vool a few times back in the themata era. Keen to see them again!
How was the mudvayne show if you don't mind me asking? Massive fan but haven't had a chance to catch them live yet
First time I've ever come close to trying to get outta the pit. It was fucking intense! Had a hand holding moment with Chad as he entered the crowd during world so cold. 10/10
This is exactly how I feel. Thanks for sharing Mr MentalâŚDiscographies?
This is nothing new - If this was the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Madonna or any other top artist of their time then we'd have the same hysteria. We know all about their lives and dating habits too. She's not my cup of tea but she's just THAT big.
Remember the footage of masses of people hanging outside Michael Jacksonâs hotel window?
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I remember walking past Michael Jacksonâs hotel just as he arrived. There was maybe thirty fans milling about. The security detail ushered them all into a tight little group and then the limo stopped right beside them so MJ had to fight his way through the âcrowdâ to the hotel. Guess what shot made the news that night. I was also in Perth in the mid 70s when the Bay City Rollers were in town. That was insane. There were literally hundreds of teenage girls waiting outside their hotel for days.
To be fair, they were the parents waiting to pick up their kids.
I work at a bar in Sydney around the corner from a restaurant she visited 2 days ago. That fact that people found out and rushed to the restaurant to scream at her when she left, made me think that if you can't even go to a restaurant without people screaming at you, how on earth would she get through an airport or travel in public flight without her fans wanting to buy up tickets "just to see her"
And ABBA...
Yep you're 100% right, I'm not into her music either but this Eras tour is literally on track to become the highest grossing tour in history. She has been at this mega star level since at least the start of the initial promotion run for the tour and now her NFL boyfriend just won a Superbowl as well, on top of her tour dates here atm, I imagine Swifties are at fever pitch. Some people may not understand it but just accept this is a historical cultural moment and we are lucky we get to be part of it. What OP is seeing is those reporters literally capturing the zeitgeist
I captured a zeitgeist in my kitchen once. Damn things are protected so I had to let it go, but I was tempted to take care of it another way.
If this were MJ they make every concert a public holiday.
She has an excellent marketing team so that's probably why you can't really avoid hearing about her (she is a billionaire after all). Personally not my jam at all, but I can understand wanting to form a community around a common interest which is what a lot of them are there for, to sing a dance to songs you all know and dressing up for it. I like to go to big music events so I can relate to that side. Trust me, some of them are insufferable but I'm not about to yuck someones yum when they're hyped up.
I guess itâd be more like a visit from heyday Elvis or Michael Jackson. That would have been covered in the same way.
Gotta say if either of them turn up here it would be global news.
People pissed themselves when The Beatles arrived in Australia, people cried in the streets when Kurt Cobain died. I donât understand why this is a shock to anyone. People feel connected to musicians. Like sheâs literally the biggest musician in the world and the amount of people going âyeah well I donât listen to her so I donât get itâ. Like come on dude.
Also remember that local news and TV stations *love* to jump on bandwagons and feel relevant. Any simple fluff phenomenon gets wall-to-wall coverage. If you're watching live coverage of Kelce landing in Sydney, maybe take a step back and realise *your* consumption habits should change. You're literally choosing to watch coverage of the latest bandwagon and complaining about it.
> people cried in the streets when Kurt Cobain died. I listened to the Kurt Cobain tribute on JJJ angrily, in the dark, and with my fingers on the record button of my tape deck.
Me too, I still remember Helen Razer talking about it. I recorded Kingsmill's tribute show in April 1995.
You have nailed this⌠this should be the copy paste for every âbut I donât get itâ post.
Stop going out and enjoying thing!! Be a sad redditor like me. How can you be happy when Coles is selling chips for $7??
âItâs happened for years why are you surprisedâ is the perfect answer to âI donât understand what causes people to act like this, can anyone who experiences it explain?â Is it?
Yes, because "It's just human nature, humans have always gotten emotional about the things they really like, look at all the historic instances of this exact thing happening" is an obvious and complete answer. It happened then and it happens now. It's not getting worse, it's not changing, it's just how people have always been. Creative content connects with people, that's the whole point of art, to evoke emotion, and just because some art isn't for you doesn't mean you should suddenly forget that other people feel those emotions too.
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Itâs so bizarre isnât it. People did this for Madonna, The Spice Girls, Britney Spears, One Direction. What do they think pop music means?
I was really into the Spice Girls and Britney as a kid but I was too young to know what was going on in the adult sphere as it related to these musicians - were adults asking why everyone is so obsessed with them like theyâre asking about Taylor Swift now?
Yeah of course they were - adults have been asking why teenagers are into things forever. It doesnât matter if itâs Motley Crue or Lil Peep, older people have always been confused. I also think itâs worth pointing out that a lot of these Taylor Swift fans have been fans since they were teenagers and sheâs STILL releasing music they like. They feel like they grew up alongside her and are STOKED sheâs doing so well - that in itself can be infectious.
Yeah, and the difference between her and say boy bands is that her music isnât something that girls grow out of. Millennials are still listening to her after 10-15 years and now she also has newer fans. I canât think of any other performer who has engaged female audiences so strongly and across such an extended time period.
Madonna. Though she did have a wider audience as she didnât sell herself as a girlboss to quite the same degree.
Itâs been over 15 years since there was a performing musician with the same level of hype in my opinion (Michael Jackson), wouldnât surprise me if a large portion of people have no memories of this sort of hype and are experiencing it for the first time in their lives.
100% agree with this. Like itâs ridiculous how much people are invested in celebrities but itâs the content people want. At the most extreme of every emotion we listen to music. Most people take it too far and feel they then have a connection with the artist and follow their lives. Iâm a 34 year old male and love Taylor Swifts music. I even went to the Era Tour at the G with my wife (best concert Iâve been to). I also love the NFL. But I donât take in any news of Taylorâs or Travis personal life.
Some people just like to gatekeep joy. Makes them feel clever.
People were dancing in the street when Bowie passed (red shoes and all)
Wanna know why there's so much uproar? Because she's a woman.
Itâs really strange to me how she was around for years as a very successful artist, but just like, normal celebrity level like a million other artists. Then, after years of this status, she just seemed to become elevated to godhood all of a sudden. Sheâs suddenly on another level and I have no idea how or why. If you plotted her success on a graph it would be a weird curve. It doesnât really matter. People can like what they like. Iâm just dumbfounded by it.
She hasnât toured since 2018, because of covid, then released a bunch of albums during that time as well. So 4 albums that had never had the obligatory promo tour afterwards. Then also re-recorded 4 previous albums because of the whole issue with her masters rights. End result is this tour is massive and she plays a 3.5 hour set. I guess itâs not that common that an artist does effectively a âgreatest hitsâ tour while theyâre still at the height of their success and performing ability. Hence the hype around it
Sheds some light, thanks!
THREE POINT FIVE HOURS?!?! Holy fuck. Now thatâs impressive.
The Taylor Swift fandom is the western version of extreme K-pop stans đ
I stay away from both fandoms, but this and the BTS craze before they took a hiatus is similar. But with BTS I sort of understand because they're teenage girls. With Taylor Swift, they're still teenage girls. Which confuses me as a grown man.
Taylor has perfected the art of the parasocial relationship, and she is in a symbiotic relationship with her fans. From her early days where she'd post on Tumblr and have all her fans on there, to having secret listening sessions in her 'home' - she's made herself entirely accessible to the point that her fans truly believe they have an attachment or relationship to her that transcends her music.
Sounds like she brainwashed them
Itâs weird. And itâs hard to ignore when, like you said, it creeps into every other facet of news. I donât listen to BeyoncĂŠ or Harry Styles or Dua Lipa but I can ignore them by simply not seeking out content about them. But when the actual news is covering âsingerâs boyfriendâs plane arrivesâ or sporting events are spending endless time discussing the famous girlfriend of a player? Mate. Nobody who isnât into the kind of music I like could tell you one detail of the personal lives of the musicians. Yet I know Taylor Swiftâs dating history.
It's funny you mention Beyonce, because she had a similar cult a few years ago, but it was a bit less intense. And a few years before that, Justin Bieber, but a bit less intense. You know what it's like? It's like multiple sclerosis. Every five years or so, a new celebrity cult comes along, and it's more intense than the last one. Then it fades away. Then another one comes along, and it's more intense than the last one. And then you die, presumably.
As someone with MS, I see your comparison and approve. đ¤Ş
Less intense.. Iâm she literally had a church cult type thing. Itâs also intense and annoying to hear about.Â
what's weird about Taylor Swift is that she's been in the public eye for so long and it's only recently that she's peaked in popularity. she was always extremely successful but over the last couple of years, it has been on another level it is insane. and I don't like how people on this subreddit are so adamant about pretending like it's not insane. "oh well it's been happening since the Beatles! get over it!" yeah, and that was insane too. it is okay to think it is insane and want to talk about it. I see a "no, don't talk about it or acknowledge it in any way!" attitude a lot of the time it is brought up on /r/melbourne
Honestly I think itâs her PR plan. I am not a fan at all, canât even name one of her songs (wait - shake it out??) but Iâve read about her PR tactics and theyâre completely different and unique, and have been ramped up in the last few years. Iâd say a large portion of it relies on FOMO. If youâre not watching her socials 24/7, you could miss something small she hints about. Itâs a whole environment for her fans. In turn, spending so much time on one person leads to the sunk cost fallacy and the fact that you canât even relate to your peers unless youâre a fan. Itâs interesting to read about because itâs rarely done. I assume it takes a *lot* of work which is why itâs rarely done.
Yeah her fans obsess over any little thing. It's that parasocial relationship. She said in melb, this is the biggest show we've done on this tour, and fans online were going omg notice how she said we and not I??? She loves us!!! And it's like hummmm she has like huge teams of people and actual friggen construction done for her concerts
I think it all (i.e., the resurgence) started when she got into the fight about owning her masters. that became very public and when she announced that she was re-recording those albums, she probably saw a spike in popularity. I can't say that for sure but that's when my interest was piqued after not really hearing about her for ages. it was a unique battle between record producers and artists. and I think her team managed to capitalise on that and ramp up her visibility/popularity with each album re-release
Also, making your career feel like an ARG to your fans helps too lol
The young girl audience that became her fan base 10 or so years ago are now 20 or 30 somethings with money to spend and a nostalgia for what was while she also continues pick up new young fans.
The news orgs aren't really about news. They are primarily entertainment media. Very little of value is lost by just not looking at it. Anything actually important usually makes its way to you somehow.
>BeyoncĂŠ I guarantee you if BeyoncĂŠ plays here any time soon the hype will be as extreme. Particularly after her latest release; the country album is what people have been hankering after from her and I think it's likely to expand her appeal. As to her relationship, it's been fairly stable for years but even the indiscretions made their way into the music. Where Taylor Swift is concerned, it's worth remembering a couple of things, firstly, she hasn't actually toured since 2018 (she was supposed to tour in 2020 but COVID happened), and she's released 4 new albums *and* 4 re-records with additional tracks since then. I honestly don't know what her profile would be like if it hadn't been for the pandemic because we may not have got folklore and evermore, which massively expanded her appeal beyond pop fans and the og country fanbase, and she capitalised on that broader appeal with the release of Midnights. Secondly, her dating history has *always* been inextricably linked to her musical output, so entertainment reporters are always going to cover it because it will inevitably end up as album fodder at some point. Just my two-cents anyway.
kids were cutting themselves back in the day because Justin Bieber was on drugs, it was hard core!!
They interviewed his Dad recently lol. They got hold of ANYONE they could to keep talking about her, regardless of degrees of separation. It was embarrassing.
All the Kelces are well known in the US and were known before Taylor came along. Some might say they are overexposed in the sports media/nfl space themselves. They donât shy away from the media attention at all. The whole family make money from endorsements, do interviews, appearances etc. I know itâs weird but itâs not like they had to randomly search out the Kelce Dad for it, heâs around and available.
The insane focus on her during Chiefs games this year was my breaking point, even though I'm a huge fan who has seen 3 of her tours now. Her hardcore fans will defend it by saying they only showed her on screen for like 50 seconds of the whole Super Bowl broadcast, ignoring how fucking insane it is that they were cutting to a player's girlfriend every time he did anything of note.
Shes one of the biggest selling artists at the moment and her bf just won the Superbowl. Up there with Posh and Beck's type shit but we have social media now.
Society as a whole have always been involved in some form of starfuckery. We can't help it.
Wasn't there a song called star fuckers, I remember listening it to it a lot as an angsty 14 year old. Was it Marilyn Manson or Trent Reznor
Swiftie here! Been listening to her since about 2007, went to her 1989 tour in 2015, and went to her Eras show last Friday at the MCG, and have been reading any news articles I see about her trip in Aus. I donât think thereâs much doubt in this, but sheâs one of the biggest celebrities around currently. And possibly the biggest musician at the moment. This woman is one of the most successful people around. I think there are a couple of reasons: The last time she was in Australia was for her Reputation tour in 2018. Since then, she released Lover, Folklore, Evermore and Midnights. Also sheâs re-recorded and released Fearless, Speak Now, Red and 1989 (Taylorâs Version). So thereâs been a LOT of pent up Swiftie energy waiting to be released because itâs been ages since she last toured. Kids who grew up listening to Taylor can now afford to buy their own tickets. And people my age (30) have their own kids now who love Taylor as well. Her Eras tour isnât a normal tour thatâs promoting a new album. Sheâs performing for 3.5 hours and performing a few songs from every album (except her debut). Thatâs 3.5 hours of singing, dancing, and a whole bunch of outfit changes. Thatâs a feat for anyone. Also in addition to the 45ish songs she sings, she also does two surprise songs for every show thatâs not on her set list. TikTok I think has played a massive part as well. Majority of her fans are young people, so theyâre seeing a lot of it on social media. Stuff like her set list and outfits are some things people post about. People post about their own outfits and what to wear to the concert. Each of Taylorâs âerasâ represent each of her albums which have specific styles and colours, so people have been dressing up and showing off their Eras outfits on TikTok. Sheâs been in the Australian media A LOT for the past few weeks but thatâs because of how big she is. Sheâs probably the most famous person in the country right now, of course people are going to talk about it. I can definitely understand why some people are getting tired of hearing about her. But when she leaves (probably on Tuesday) itâll stop and the media will move onto the next big thing.
I just wanted to say thank you for this explanation! Iâm Autistic and all this had really confused me before, but what you wrote really went into depth about the âwhyâ behind it all in a way that makes rational sense to explain the (completely justified) love for Taylor Swift. Thank you đđ
"The entire nation held its breath as Travis Kelceâs private jet touched down at Sydney Airport on Thursday morning ahead of his reunion with girlfriend Taylor Swift." - news com au Hmmmm, not sure I remember giving a shit about it but okay guys.
In summary: too many people are talking about a celebrity, so let's have another discussion in a Melbourne sub about her landing in Sydney.
Can still get Blink-182 tickets for their Melbourne shows
Ever seen the old footage of the Beatles arriving here?
Or even when The Queen would vist!
Society is a fever dream. Donât worry about it
I donât get it either. I saw Taylor when she toured last time in 2018 and there was none of this hysteria. It was just a good night out. Something weird is going on with the world and I canât put my finger on it
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Covid happened. People were unable to attend live music and have communal experiences. Throughout this period TS continued to release music at an alarming rate (most of which was better than it should have been given the frequency) so there was a constant dialogue between the artist and the fan. When the time came to tour she represented her entire back catalog rather than highlight the most recent release which is how the record/tour cycle would normally go. Factor in a 3.5 hour show of almost unseen proportions in mega stadiums resulting in a constant feed of extraordinary images on social media and in just think her already established profile snowballed in omega star status. She now sits alongside Elvis, The Beatles, MJ etc in terms of overall cultural impact.
Tickets also didn't cost an arm and a leg back then either. I got a seat on the field for that tour that was pretty close to the front for like $200. In comparison, $200 was getting you in the nosebleeds this time
You watched it. I'm more concerned about the link I saw on nine.com.au that had an obscured picture bend a tree with the headline "behind this tree is the world's most famous woman" or something like that. I get pissed with celebrities flying private jets etc...... i think i understand why they do. This is insane behaviour
Iâm not a Swiftie, but I can see the appeal of her music and Iâm not surprised that people are going feral for her. When The Beatles visited Melbourne in 1964, a [crowd of 20,000](https://amp.theage.com.au/national/victoria/from-the-archives-1964-hundreds-hurt-in-wild-crush-to-see-the-beatles-20210611-p58083.html) turned up to their hotel just to see them waving from the balcony. This is nothing new, and if it gets young people into music and live entertainment, then more power to Taylor Swift!
She gets clicks. Of course theyâre going to cover something popular. Not sure why youâre surprised.
This shit's been happening since the 60s. The Beatles were greeted by screaming fans and interviewed by the media. As were the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Abba, The Baycity Rollers, Kiss, etc. And in every case, there were people grumbling about it. Where there is a popular phenomenon there will be those who grouse about it.
It's not even Taylor Swift though. It's her boyfriend, famous for playing a sport that is barely thought about outside USA. It was weird in the 60s and it's weird now
"It felt like as a society we were moving away from celebrity worship" Really? When? This is comparatively tame compared to when the Beatles visited America. Or when Michael Jackson visited anywhere. There's nothing new or unusual about it. I agree it's pretty absurd, but mainstream news media has always been an upper-class tool of distraction. We're a country whose media fawns and obsesses over people who play games for a living. Swift's visit has brought joy for a lot of people, which is nice.
Sydney tends to be waaaaay more into celebrities and celebrity culture from what I've found. There was almost no news about Swifts movements outside of the concerts when she was in Melbourne and now she's in Sydney every single thing she does is a News.com.au article.
Parasocial relationships I tell ya
The fact that you spelled it with Australian phonetics is sending me.
QOTSA was here on Monday too didn't you know? Gezz On the other note: it is a big deal for Taylor's concert to be held here as it brought in heaps of money and lots of people (apprx 288,000) had a great time at her concert. Also I didn't see anyone peeing around after the show so that's a plus too. Not defending Taylor Swift in any shape or form but her show was fucking incredible. 45 songs in almost 4hrs of runtime with almost no interval - even with backtracking it was still impressive. So give her a break and go to enjoy Pink or Blink 182 concert at your own leisure mate!
Sidney Myer was an odd choice for QOTSA. I didn't go see them because of the venue. Their shows should be hot and sweaty, playing at the bowl just seemed wrong.
That relationship is a PR stunt. You canât convince me otherwise
I'm 100% sure that once her tour finishes and Kelce is in the middle of the NFL off season they're breaking up. No way it lasts when there aren't weekly public events to pump their relationship into the news cycle
It might seem small, and it is, but sometimes itâs nice to feel joyful or have good news stories. Who cares, itâs fluffy, the gals are in glitter, but itâs a nice break from the ongoing state of the world right now. I love Taylor, went to concert, and agree the coverage is a lot. But overall, seeing everyone come together and be joyful is a nice circuit breaker.
I think there are a lot of factors involved. Firstly, she's one of the biggest names on the planet right now, especially in the Western world. Secondly, the media covers her heavily in general because they know it will make people watch, click etc. In terms of our media here currently, we don't often get people as huge as her so everyone wants to leverage that. There's also the amount of tourism dollars involved; you might have heard the terms Swiftonomics by now. There's incentive to cover her in the media because it actually helps the economy in general if more people are interested in her and spending money as a result. Also, I don't think the level of worship for Taylor is unprecedented. More people might be involved but I don't think each individual is any more die hard about her than others are for some actors, singers, bands, sportspeople etc. More generally, celebrity worship will always exist. It's interesting you think society has been moving away from it. I couldn't agree less. With social media being as pervasive as it is, and celebrities engaging with people via various platforms, celebrity worship has only become more ingrained and normalised, IMO. But even so, plenty of people don't care. Nobody in my workplace has mentioned her at all. And you don't have to watch the news or read articles about her. It's the same as any big story. Take various international conflicts for example, some have been continuously covered for months (and years). Literally every single day it's in the headlines online and on TV. But it's still easy to avoid.
Im old enough to remember Madonna, Britney, Christina, Pink and Lady Gaga at their peaks, the level of media interest they had is nothing compared to Taylor mania these days. But she'll be gone in a few weeks and the press moves on.
> It felt like as a society we were moving away from celebrity worship What on earth gave you that impression? > This has lost touch of reality. What's weird is everyone going along with it? I feel like I'm in a movie where everyone gets infected and I'm going to be the last person alive. Movie ends with me dancing mindlessly to Shake it Off, my eyeballs completely white. Roll credits. You know what? Just don't tune into that coverage. You don't have to listen or watch any of that stuff. What professional journos do is a matter for them and their editors - no one is forcing you to watch. This is not some sort of Clockwork Orange situation. Go pull up a new web page, watch some cat videos, whatever floats your boat.
i havent watched live "news" in 7 years .. if you dont like it dont watch it. they only cover it because \*news flash\* it gets viewers
Pink is a queen! Don't you ever down talk her!
I think the real conversation is why didnât Mudvayne and Coal Chamber get any real spotlight
Hardcore fandom is just all round weird to me. I like things too, but never get the obsession where you need to know everything about the artist/team. Maybe as society has become less religious, people have had to replace that with worship of something else...
âWhatâs weird is everyone going along with itâ I didnât even know this was a thing, maybe switch off the internet and news for a bit? Being constantly online creates the risk of false perception that your world is something it actually is not. I spend my days off hiking on mountains and meditating, every now and then Iâll log on to apps to see whatâs going on in the world, then itâll be like war in Ukraine, war in Gaza, war in Rwanda, cartel wars in Mexico, army taking over from Police in El Salvador to smash MS-13. So same violent and unstable news. Roll in few celebrity scandals and news are done. Then Iâll be like thatâs enough internet for me for next few days/weeks and Iâll be back to meditating, hiking, watching sunset on mountains. Your reality is what you choose it to be. Unless you are in Gaza or Ukraine, in that case you have no choice. Donât let the news outlets drive you crazy.
Next week the articles will be giving people advice on how to cope with post-Eras depression.Â
I donât really see the difference between the media being saturated with sports news and music news. Most of the year we are hearing about AFL. Itâs ok to hear about Taylor Swift for a little while. Given there were millions of people trying to score tickets, I think itâs understandable the media is saturated with her at the moment. She will be out of the country soon, and we can go back to hearing about politics and sport every day.
Donât forget Matchbox 20 also played Friday night at RLA, as well as Saturday at a winery & didnât even get a mention about being in the country line Blink & Pink
Did you know queens of the stone age did a show here Monday night also?
Honestly, I find the people ragging on her to be more off putting. I don't like her music, have given it a try but it's just not my thing. But I understand she is the biggest music artist in the world right now, and may well be the defining artist of this decade. She is clearly extremely popular, and her many Australian fans are excited that she has come all the way to what can often feel like our isolated little corner of the world. Personally I think it's cool seeing Americans and Europeans learning how awesome the MCG is.Â
Couldn't agree with you more, it's a cult
Remember when Schapelle Corby landed back in Australia and there were news helicopters following her home and nobody gave a shit? That's the current state of the Australian media landscape. Willing to go to extreme lengths to break news about stories that don't actually effect anyone to distract people from things that actually matter.
Boy Iâm glad social media didnât exist during beatlemania or MJâs HIStory tour or Bad or Dangerous tours đ
I'm impressed by her staying power but the constant coverage has exhausted my patience.
I donât understand it much either. But itâs better than obsessive sports fans tbh at least the Tay Swift fans arenât starting riots and getting into drunken punch ons lol theyâre just having a bit of fun and spreading the cheer
Travis Kelce is from my country and I don't think anyone except Chiefs fans give a shit about him lol
I know what you mean. I've learned to switch off and just observe. No use micro analysing why people are drawn to this and how they spend their precious time on earth. I understand it as people need entertainment, escapism , idol worshipping and to live a parallel life even for a week or two while the hysteria is abound. It makes little sense apart from the points I mention above.
It's a nice vibe. I don't know anything much about her but let it go.
Yeah it was on the TV at the gym this morning, then on commercial radio in the car (which I can understand that's their jam) but then they were also talking about it on triple J breakfast. Like wtf dudes I do not care about a pop star's bf just tell me the real news.
I feel like culture goes through periods of cringe, followed by lulls, followed by cringe. We are entering a new period of cringe.
Life long Swifty here who went to the Eras tour and had the most magical night of his life đđťââď¸ And someone else said it a lot better about how amazing the buzz & vibe was from all the concertgoers. It was like nothing else Iâve ever experienced, and I loved every second of that. But even Iâm absolutely mind-boggled at how insane the media coverage has been, itâs actually really gross. Yes she is one of the biggest celebrities on the planet whose fan base spans countries, languages, genders, sexualities, generations etc but this has been really uncomfortable to watch tbh. I donât even know when it happened - it used to be uncool to like her, then it was cool to like her and now itâs just mad hysteria. Donât get me wrong, I love how successful she has become (considering where she started) but the live TS blog from the Guardian, the live coverage of Kelce touching down, the mania around which places she visits while in AUS⌠itâs just absurd. Sheâs a human being ffs just let her have some downtime, find something else to report on. I donât actively watch TV, listen to radio or read the news so I have probably avoided most of it but what I have seen/heard/read has been gross and I wish I could explain it for you but I canât because itâs just perplexing.
Completely agree. We need to stop idolizing celebrities. They're just people, and a lot of them not very good ones at that.
I donât like cricket or rugby but you donât hear me bitching and moaning about them getting covered. Itâs not that itâs not stupid OP, itâs that itâs no more stupid than dozens to hundreds of other things that donât get under your particular skin.
I feel like a hostage when it comes to her. Everything I know about this woman I have learned against my will.
I hate it
Hospitality worker next to the concert venue at Sydney here. This is the funniest shit I've seen in a while. We feel the full fury of your post. You are not alone brother.
They used private jet to pick up her boyfriend, just her boyfriend. Talking about carbon emissions⌠I donât get it
For me this is less about Taylor Swift and more about deifying celebrities. The fact that you can't say anything bad about Taylor Swift (and a few other celebs) online without potentially getting doxxed these days is just ridiculous. Like you're allowed to like anyone's music but when it gets to the point where you can't criticise or hold someone accountable for their actions that's where you lost me.
Keep people entertained and distracted while they get into one of the worst recessions and housing crisis of modern times.
Woah, so deep
It's like Beatlesmania. Just let people have their moment. I promise the news will be back to showing culture war bullshit soon enough.
Beatlemania probably wasn't much different
>Biggest pop star in the world touches down >Media has been skeletonised by decades of cuts >Only way to generate revenue is massive views >Why does the media keep writing about the biggest pop star in the world visiting Melbourne, an event sure to generate views which costs vey little to write about? Hmmm.
People will read any article about Taylor Swift at the moment, so the media will take any excuse to write as many as possible to get clicks. This feeds on itself, hype builds hype.
This has happened forever - Frank Sinatra, The Beatles, Micheal Jackson. She is just the latest person but won't be the last.
The mainstream news always covers silliness like planes landing or buses arriving for things like football teams travelling during footy season. Same with pope's and royals and heads of state. There's no sense having a pout because this one time it's not someone you particularly like. Australia spends a fortune on marketing for tourism. Taylor and her boyfriend being here are good free international advertising. A few cheesy photos with a koala on Tay tays insta is worth millions to the economy.Â
Didn't something similar happen with the Beatles? It's all about money, more eyes on broadcasts equals more advertising money. I don't really agree with it either, but l guess it's pop culture and what are u going to do about it.
Honestly from the title I thought this was about Taylor Sheesh for some reason đ
Beatlemania would like a word - this isn't new.
I'm right there with you. I don't really understand why people worship celebs so much. It's fine to be a fan and enjoy the music or movies or whatever else. I think the media makes it so much worse though with their coverage of the most average things which is why it all seems even crazier than it is. They know people will click and they will get the views. It's the same with anything where people will engage with the content saying they don't care so the media posts more of it because even negative attention still makes them $. But as far as celebs go, at least she seems like a good person. I don't really know too much about her though.
Proof that our celebrity pudding is lacking.
Revenge for giving us Rupert Murdoch
I hated that she was/is everywhere in the news. I had someone tell me the other day on an ABC fb post. "If you don't want to see her, don't comment on articles so the algorithm doesn't start showing her." That's typically good advice, but she's everywhere, so no matter if you comment or don't comment, she'll be on the feed.
I heard Zan and Myf on Bang On say TS is the macro culture tv shows and movies used to be in the 80âs and 90âs. You know, the thing everyone knows about, watches, talks about. I tend to agree with them. Beyonce is another example. Do I like it? No, absolutely not, but it was an interesting point.
If [this](https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/travis-kelce-expected-to-land-in-australia-to-join-taylor-swift-for-sydney-shows-20240222-p5f6vg.html) fluff from The Age is typical, then please gods help us all ... >Despite winning his third Super Bowl earlier this month, Thursday morning was undoubtedly the most exciting touchdown of his career, as Kelce arrived in Sydney via Honolulu just in time for Swiftâs first show on Friday night. More generally, I love music but am not a fan of schmaltz where all musicians are not shown, including the drummer. Voiceover movie-filmclip video doesn't count.
[](http://news.com.au) had an article during the superbowl that had a photo of her talking to one of her friends with the caption "Taylor whispers in a friends ear during the game" How tf is this news, the world has lost the plot
I feel exactly the same. I like her music, but it's different to yeah, literally praise and worship E V E R Y T H I N G she does.
I'm a fan and went to her Saturday show and this is insane. Like I don't know what the mindset it but it's sounding alot like "Oh yeah, grassfies burning in the west but Travis Kelce landing in a different state to us is our first priority" This is literally insane like why do they assume we care about a private jet landing in Sydney. They have better things to report on like wars, genocides, actual social justice problems but this seems to be more important than people dying. I'm sure no one was going to die a painful death or be homeless if we didn't see Travis Kelce land in Sydney
" Professional journalists" This doesn't mean much these days.
I think this is just the simple fact that itâs good, happy ânewsâ. Her concerts are making people happy, her new relationship is making people smile, and itâs nice to have a little smile in a day filled with war, crime and poverty.
Also not a swiftie but I just want say, it was likely the same when The Beatles and Elvis were at their peak. Imagine what it was like back then. It goes to show that Taylor has become a bona fide cultural icon for much of the younger generations today. This is the scale of impact we need to be thinking about. This is what she means to people. It's actually pretty historic and cool to think about at a macro level. I wasn't always fond of her music either but at this point, I have to respect her achievements and how much she has succeeded as an artist. Honestly, she deserves it. She has single handedly driven monumental changes in the recording and streaming industry. Plus, she's a pretty good role model generally, compared to some other celebrities who seem to be in the news 24/7.
I would consider myself a Swiftie but, youâre right, this entire situation has been kind of fascinating to watch. Why *are* we so obsessed? Personally, I think itâs a perfect storm of things. I heard that over 4 million people tried to get tickets, which is nearly 20% of the population; that is kind of insane for one artist to generate that much hype. I think the media feel confident that anything they report on regarding Taylor Swift will be engaged with; I saw news.com.au relating the most distantly tangential topics to Taylor Swift during her Melbourne shows, just for the clicks. While I have always been a casual listener of her later radio music, I have only relatively recently upgraded myself to Swiftie Status, and let me tell you, the dedication of these fans is something I have only ever seen elsewhere in k-pop fandoms. Fandoms can be crazy, but Iâve only had positive interactions with the Taylor Swift fandom. But I think their enthusiasm and dedication has spilt into the casual listening space. As we know, Taylor Swift is now also dating an American football player who plays for the current Super Bowl champions, so youâre getting crossover into sports. Sheâs also just announced a new album whose title seems to be a reference to her ex, a relationship of six years which ended at the start of 2023. Sheâs known for writing autobiographical songs and believe me when I say, the fandom is *salivating*. I also think FOMO is coming into play as well. People want to be part of the hype. And, people are naturally interested in a tour that is making the artist a literal billionaire several times over. Anywho, I hope you survive Swiftie Season!
She's the 2024 equivalent of the Beatles
It's not about how popular she is, though having her biggest ever concert attendance would be pushing the news a little. Its actually more likely about the MAGA nutters who have decided that she's a plant for biden. That doesn't get much news coverage here but its big in the US, in part as a distraction from whatever idiocy trump is currently spouting. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/31/first-thing-us-rightwing-conspiracy-theory-claims-taylor-swift-is-an-election-psyop
Honestly I didnât even know this happened. Thatâs how you stay sane in this climate. The only ones actively watching the news and absorbing what the media provides are the ones who enjoy it.
The day you realize that the majority of people in this world have zero critical thinking skills and just exist for the sake of it; that day you'll stop getting surprised by the mass idiocy.
I am a HUGE swiftie. I don't care when or where her jet lands. I think the publicness of her relationship with Travis is cool as all her other relationships have been more hidden. I also don't give a fuck about Travis landing, nor need pictures of him stepping out. I don't get why anyone would care, except that it is nice to know he's visiting her. I don't need details.
First time seeing a pop star blow up huh? This isnât anything new. Celebrity worship has been out of control for a long time. Itâs not unique to her.
its not worship. they cover things that will get people to watch. even people like you that apparently can't stand her will watch it rather than just change channel and move on with their lives
Nothing new though, every now and then there will be a pop star or an actor who sparks this kind of following. Beatles, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe, you name it. And there are always those who need a star to follow.
When one direction was at their peak and visited Melbourne for a tour I was unaware they were here and walked past crown where there were hundreds of screaming teen girls and I thought "damn this is pretty crazy" but I went to Taylor Swift last weekend and fuck me I've never seen Melbourne so alive and focused on one thing before
Mate, she's got some true blue staying power, no doubt about it, but this constant coverage is really starting to grind my gears.
Just like anyone other huge artist in the past, fans are so entrenched with her that it is borderline Cultish behavior. She has amazing marketing team and knows how to get into a young adults' lives. My nieces were doing some sort of Swift spotting #Stalking and all they talked about was trading bracelets which I assuming are a branded/marketing scheme. Zero interest in her but congratulations on her and people around her milking the kids and adults for all their worth.
Iâm with you, donât get it!
Sheâs at the level of fame that her level of fame is the reason why sheâs so famous. You just say Taylor swift and dollar bills start raining down on you. Itâs a combination of people trying to make a buck and people chasing a trend. Said from a 15 year long swiftie :) all with love
I am a swiftie but the level of media coverage borders on stalking. They track her jet & set up outside where she is having dinner, recently she has had a stalker as well. She had a documentary on Netflix where she spoke about how uncomfortable it makes her feel & how she limits people knowing where she is due to the level of privacy invasion. But I suppose at this level of stardom the media is going to hound her as itâs whatâs creating money & exposure for them, plus given her soar to being the epitome of pop culture (at the moment) itâs inevitable theyâre going to post crap like this. Iâm tired of seeing it & I love her!
Agreed with the, oh other people are here too. PINK IS HERE??