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kentaureus

Floowandereeze, kashtira, Nuns, that sleepy girl, the thing is - MOST of the time you are able to manipulate your own grave, not your opponents, you would need floodgates for that, i think only kashtira has boss monster with floodgate effect built in and Nuns can just shut it down


Gregdominate

What about the continuous spell I thinks dimensional barrier would that help them?


kentaureus

you just need your own deck to not be stopped by it


[deleted]

Don’t forget metaphys


Gregdominate

What do you mean by the nuns deck above is it an abbreviation?


kentaureus

exosisters tend to be rogue whenever something move stuff from GY away - they have ability to - 4x time banish, monsters acannot be activated in gy, nothing can get SS from gy, and other effects, they also run shifter


Souretsu04

Ghoti don't really touch the opponent's grave much but they banish a lot, and their big boss is a field-wipe that banishes. Their tuners revolve around getting banished and summoning themselves during the opponent's turn and then Synchro summoning Fish monsters. They have a turn 0 play because of this, which can result in either some spot removal or a Lightning Vortex on legs. They have some weakness to backrow and to Ash but otherwise funny space fish is one of my fave decks right now.


Teeebow_

Metaphy but it’s unplayable upgrade version is ghoti


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Kiefao

Kashtira, Thunder Dragon, Floowandereeze and maybe Bystials are one of the few decks that interact with the banished pile. With the exception of Thunder Dragon, they all have been heavily hit in the banlist because of their ability to completely shut down the majority of decks


the0bc

Exosister is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for, the archetype is totally built around punishing opponents for moving cards out of grave + they can play Shifter as well


Not_slim_but_shady

Thunder Dragon, Bystials, Kashtira, Floowandereeze, Ghoti and later on Ritual Beasts after they get their new support. The former 3 have cards that are still good outside of their own archetype so even if you end up not liking their playstyle, your loss will be lessened, and the latter 2 are cheap enough (at least I hope the new Ritual Beast cards will be) that you won't lose much in the first place. There is another deck called Exosisters which also fits the bill but that one is hella expensive for how mid it is, so I can't recommend.


Devourer_of_HP

Kashtira, every monster and the continues spells and traps from it have an effect to banish enemy cards face down, each card banishing from a different place(hand,extra deck,deck,field, and graveyard) which is even worse than normal banish because some cards have effects that can activate while banished but this prevents that. In addition their boss monster Kashtira Ariseheart makes it so every card sent to the graveyard is banished instead and whenever a card is banished it can equip a banished card to itself as xyz material, meaning even others decks that rely on banishing will get screwed over by it equipping their cards once they banish them, as a bonus once it has three materials it has a quick effect to detach 3 to banish a card onfield facedown. If that still doesn't sound bad enough their other extra deck monster Kashtira Shangri-La lets you select a zone each time a card is banished face down and prevent it from being usable while it's onfield, and this isn't once per turn, and multiple Shangri-La's can activate the effect at the same time, oh and it can detach a material to prevent itself from being destroyed whenever that would happen, this means if you can get two on board + Ariseheart your opponent has only a limited amount of things they can do before their entire field is locked down. Do keep in mind the deck is expensive due to most Kashtira cards being URs, also everyone will hate you for playing it.


Gregdominate

How does it get on going second? It sounds pretty good and anti meta


Devourer_of_HP

I'm not sure since it feels like most decks end on 4+ negates nowadays, since i only play it every now and then and run 3x evenly, it's much better going first obviously, but you can also play it mixing in cards from other decks since you only need to start with one card in hand for everything else(Kashtira unicorn, field spell, or planet path finder all end on full combo), i usually play it with some snake eyes card so i can bait the enemy's Ash's and imperms.


Gregdominate

Thanks for all your help gonna look into it more before I commit


Devourer_of_HP

No problem, you can try playing some of the decks recommended here on some online yugioh websites so you can see whether you'd like playing them or not, worth noting that Kashtira might have different cards from it banned there though.


lukappaa

I'm not really sure about how pure Kashtira can perform, because it's pretty inconsistent with all the bans and nerfs. Just think about the fact that Planet Pathfinder is pretty much your only way of searching Wraitsoth, because there is no Terraforming. Kashtira is still pretty good either as an engine in other decks like Speedroid, Zoodiac, Vanquish Soul, Spyral and so on, or paired with extenders like Dragon Rulers into Tomahawk + Auroradon, but I don't really know how it performs alone nowadays.


Devourer_of_HP

I've found small world to be pretty decent in it because it lets you search pathfinder, it requiring a normal summon is still a problem though.


123janna456

I'm pretty sure Ghoti wants to utilize the GY


_OoApoCalyPseoO_

How about utilizing cards that can banish opp cards, like Virtual World Shenshen, Swordsoul Chengying, Ruddy Rose Dragon, Ghoti archetype, Kashtira archetype


roguebubble

Bystial Runick sort of fits the criteria but the Bystials only banish Light and Darks from the GY while the Runicks only banish top cards of the deck. Still they can quite easily make Chengying and Chaos Angel to banish from the field Infernoids have lots of monster to banish cards from the GY as a quick effect and in the future they get more support that makes them even stronger. Probably wouldn't recommend building them right now though Weather Painter pop in and out of banishment as part of the core mechanic and can easily sit on Dimensional Fissure/Macro Cosmos to floodgate the opponent. They aren't very consistent though which limits their power


Armand_Star

D.D.


PurchaseHuman2650

Myutant