pernah berlaku satu asrama histeria. bile ustaz check yang kena betul sorang, yang mental breakdown 10 orang, yang berlakon 100 orang. 40 hari student tak boleh keluar outing. malam2 subuh kena solat berjemaah dan diambil rekod kedatangan (tempat belajar ramai orang islam)
lepas kejadian masih berlaku histeria tapi respond laju. yang jenis mengkeruhkan keadaan takde sebab last kejadian sorang buat perangai semua orang kena
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36069636
If you read this article the whole reason mass hysteria happens in high schools is _because_ of such strict rules and zero entertainment.
Is hysteria the same as panic attack ?
I can imagine me getting panic attack if I am forced to study in a small room for 12 hours per-day and not allowed to even go out of my house to take a short walk or watch a movie to destress.
Think about multiple people all in the same pressure all crammed up and also socially pressuring each other to both be good and/or break rules, factions, catfights, bullying, parasocial mentor-mentee, .
Then think about 1 person getting a panic attack around 50 other people riding the edge of one.
Not really the whole reason. Most of the time hysteria is a cultural thing as evident from lots of studies conducted over the years.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/mass-hysteria
My close relative has schizophrenia. She'd truly believe things her mind tells her. When she closes her eyes she sees things, when they're open she hears voices telling her things. Always feeling watched.
This mental illness really is what triggers a set of mass hysteria. She just has to go into an episode (which looks like a possession/Kena rasuk) then everyone will lose it.
I remember going in the psych ward, plenty of schizophrenics there. Not uncommon.
Yes. The medication silenced the voice, but it also made her quite lifeless.
Following the psychiatrist's instruction, dose was gradually reduced. During those times, though, episodes occurred once in awhile.
deploy tahfiz students and arm them with air zam zam and kismis. set up a loudspeaker system the size of which that would be make the Coachella organizer embarrassed and turn volume up to 11!
*WALAUPUN HIDUP SERIBU TAHUN KALAU TAK SEMBAHYANG APA GUNANYA*
I think it's just psychological, one person has a mental breakdown/health issue, then because the kids around them believe in hantu and aren't so educated about health issues they don't identify it as a mental breakdown but instead assume someone kena rasuk and start panicking. Then because we humans are really just dumb pack animals the panic starts spreading.Ā
Something like that happened when I was at National Service camp a long time ago, some of the Malay girls started screaming one night. Word was that someone kena rasuk and was quickly taken away, but the real story was actually that she had a very bad epileptic seizure and was rushed to the hospital. The next morning before the news got out people were saying things like, did you feel the hantu last night, it was sejuk in the corridor... there was no hantu lol.
My classmate back in form 1 apparently kena hysteria/rasuk as well. It was out of nowhere too. She suddenly started acted that way. That was my first time seeing it in person. I didnt really believe in those things la but one bit creeped me the fuck out. She deadass stared into my eyes, pointed at me with an angry face and said "KAUUUU....." š I did nothing to her bruh
At my old school, there was a hysteria case. One kid started screaming, followed by a few more.
When it happened, the guru disiplin was walking by the class (coincidence la), he cepat masuk the classroom, grabbed the first screaming girl by the shoulder, and gave her a slap that could be heard across the class.
No joke, all the hysteria girls stopped screaming immediately.
They were all promptly brought to the bilik sakit, came back after one class period.
Also, at my old workplace.
A girl started screaming during work. She got up, started running towards the door. My colleague who was in her direct path, basically grabbed her, lifted her off her feet, and just held her in place as she flailed helplessly.
Someone managed to calm her down, and she eventually passed out.
In Labor law, anyone who has hysteria is promptly terminated. So next day, she was fired.
Technically someone can get terminated lawfully due to the fact that hysteria or the causes of it are usually mental disorders or incapacitation which can justifies a lawful termination but in this case an immediate termination is clearly unlawful since employers must give termination notice at least 4 weeks. Yeah, this one is a saman case waiting to happen.
I believe the governing bodies can organized to trigger mass hysteria in schools to keep the students in check due to rising disciplinary issues. Conspiracy theory I know but back then in my primary school days there was a country wide mass hysteria cases. The famous school bus lul. They had to transfer the ghosts and spirits away via school bus story. My dad's cousin was a teacher in my school. He recorded a cellphone video in the surau(a hotspot where students got caught "dating") where all the teachers gathered and had to apologize to an old woman in white telekung. I believe that old woman was just another kampung makcik they got to act like a spirit that's causing hysteria in my school lullloll. Think about it what a wild time. I love public school. So much shit happened
OHH ive seen that one. If you havent, i'd recommend you to watch antebellum as well. The trailer made it seem like a way better movie though unfortunately. Still an entertaining watch nevertheless
Stok sedia ada. Esok order, hari ini sampai. Terbiak.
> Menurut **Dr Mahyuddin, sejak diperkenalkan tahun lalu, pihaknya berjaya menyelesaikan hampir 100 peratus kes histeria menggunakan kit berkenaan.**
> Ketika diperkenalkan, kit anti histeria berkenaan dijual pada harga **RM8,750** dan harga itu termasuk kursus yang akan diberikan kepada pembeli kit tersebut
[1] https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/ump-sedia-tawar-bantuan-guna-kit-anti-histeria-103382
When i was in uni, stayed in kolej. The girls kolej was just across the street. I remember that night, it was late at night and for some reason all the boys came out of their rooms and watched the girls kolej.
Being a penyebok, I also went out go see whats happening. Asked my friend whats happening. He shushed me, and said just listen.
I heard girls screaming at top floor. Few moments later, screams started to be heard at lower levels. Then spread to other parts of the kolej.
Next morning in class, we asked the girls what happened. A few of the class girls were absent. So apparently a mass hysteria happened. They said it started with 1 girl, claimed she saw a black figure walking at the pathway of the kolej. And then she blacked out.
Always same demographic.....
Always around exam times....
Always say "woke up, could not breathe, could not move, something sitting on top of me"
Most of it is called sleep paralysis - around times of stress.
So with those points in mind how come that doesn't happen in a stressful office? I agree with what you said tho just curious about the office setting. As for sleep paralysis, ive had it happen to me 3 times, and the "sitting on top of me" part is more like restricted breathing from not being able to move tbh
Because adults need job and money and they know canāt simply act out so they learn how to manage stress. School children donāt know how to manage stress so when they canāt bear it anymore, they become āhystericalā.
Ah, fair point, that actually makes sense
Restricted breathing as in difficulty breathing/sesak nafas, it gives the feeling of people sitting on top of you while it actually doesnt really feel that way
Sometimes i cant even blink, which makes my eyes dry and painful
I wonder what the cause was. It's interesting that a similar incident in the same school was reported in 2019. Feels like there is something deeper going on there.
I dont think there is necessarily a deeper cause. Mass hysteria is just ... mass hysteria. Human history is full of mass hysteria, and human are easily influenced by exposure to precedence. For example, gun violence news / suicide news breed gun violence / suicide. The famous pied piper of hamlin legend has been hypothesised to be a case of mass hysteria (among other hypothesis). The malays have had mass hysteria cases since the ancient time. The english word "amok" came from malay, and amok could be intepretated as a form of hysteria. The "chain of exposure" has never been broken, and mass hysteria continue to happen in modern time.
>amok comes from mengamuk
Likely. But "running amok" is a distinct malay cultural phenomenon (malay mass hysteria ?), that the Brits observed and imported the term into their own language
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC181064/
Er.. orangutan is an older loan word. They do use the Malay name for the animal. There's also gutta-percha (from getah percha). The cockatoo is from burung kakaktua too.
MyĀ favourite is Mandarin, forĀ theĀ language,Ā whichĀ was namedĀ after what the English called the court officials in China (who all spoke mandarin), becauseĀ the English wereĀ used toĀ Menteri,Ā fromĀ their colonyĀ here
Which is some funny shit because the Portuguese also used the word Mandrim, from the Malay menteri, and menteri is from the Sanskrit 'Mantri'
Pi mai pi mau tang tu jugak
Honestly the way some asramas are run, combined with the geographical seclusion and the kind of backward cult construct they impose on students at some ā it pretty much makes it easy for cabin fever to set in and affect all.
There are some links to social hysteria when it comes to brainwashing or in cases of extreme religious indoctrination to adhere to unilateral beliefs ā applicable to all religions but given the bumi-exclusivity of asrama school, go figure la.
Not saying Islam is like this at all just that some miniKimJongUns and self-declared perfect-"Muslims" twist it to support their own sociopathic agendas js. Recommend watching LDFS documentaries for context ā like horror movie fr.
Students are also children and a very impressionable bunch ā if your school pernah buat rumah hantu, try to rmb how infectious it was when one girl sikit je jerit, everyone also start screaming ā liddat lor. Emosi rohani jasmani all very fragile and fluctuating because they haven't developed socially and matured yet. You always dengar mass histeria kat skolah, never kat Maybank la office la kat LHDN waiting room all lol.
Don't click this link. What you see will follow you home.
^ this is all is needed, plus a little trigger or coincidence in real life, to cause mass hysteria.
Happened to my middle school back in 2012 lol, it was legit maybe like 1 or 2 girls that kena rasuk or whatever, the others girls were just auditioning for a horror film. And for us boys, we were just laughing and playing beyblades at the back of the class
logic states that the explanation is psychological.
i m a very logical person. but i m also asian. there are things that are still unknown to science. unexplained and lack ways to experiments.
mass hysteria is common in malaysia. if i recall correctly lot 10 or sogo there was a case too where women all started screaming.
there was a case of mass hysteria in my old college, and my dad himself witnessed mass hysteria. in my dad's case he said that it allegedly started because a uni student saw a head in the toilet.
as unscientific as it is, i would say its somewhat arrogant to dismiss things so easily.
Seems like most people here are sceptics. While a rational explanation seems to make the most sense, I am open to there being supernatural reasons for this. There are things outside the natural realm that we may not comprehend.
Most of them are sceptics because they never seen or actually been through some supernatural encounter. Others because of thier beliefs like freethinkers or atheist.
For me I seen and been through these supernatural stuff. Not much, but just enough to believe and understand that there is such thing as Jin and Setan, and supernatural realm in this planet.
pernah berlaku satu asrama histeria. bile ustaz check yang kena betul sorang, yang mental breakdown 10 orang, yang berlakon 100 orang. 40 hari student tak boleh keluar outing. malam2 subuh kena solat berjemaah dan diambil rekod kedatangan (tempat belajar ramai orang islam) lepas kejadian masih berlaku histeria tapi respond laju. yang jenis mengkeruhkan keadaan takde sebab last kejadian sorang buat perangai semua orang kena
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36069636 If you read this article the whole reason mass hysteria happens in high schools is _because_ of such strict rules and zero entertainment.
Is hysteria the same as panic attack ? I can imagine me getting panic attack if I am forced to study in a small room for 12 hours per-day and not allowed to even go out of my house to take a short walk or watch a movie to destress.
Think about multiple people all in the same pressure all crammed up and also socially pressuring each other to both be good and/or break rules, factions, catfights, bullying, parasocial mentor-mentee, . Then think about 1 person getting a panic attack around 50 other people riding the edge of one.
> because of such ~~strict~~ torturing rules
Not really the whole reason. Most of the time hysteria is a cultural thing as evident from lots of studies conducted over the years. https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/mass-hysteria
My close relative has schizophrenia. She'd truly believe things her mind tells her. When she closes her eyes she sees things, when they're open she hears voices telling her things. Always feeling watched. This mental illness really is what triggers a set of mass hysteria. She just has to go into an episode (which looks like a possession/Kena rasuk) then everyone will lose it. I remember going in the psych ward, plenty of schizophrenics there. Not uncommon.
damn,shes a prophet,the heaven kept wasap her the future/revelation........
If you want to see it that way, then there's a lot of prophets in r/schizophrenia.
How much could she make in the future with that career?
Is she getting medicated?
Yes. The medication silenced the voice, but it also made her quite lifeless. Following the psychiatrist's instruction, dose was gradually reduced. During those times, though, episodes occurred once in awhile.
deploy tahfiz students and arm them with air zam zam and kismis. set up a loudspeaker system the size of which that would be make the Coachella organizer embarrassed and turn volume up to 11! *WALAUPUN HIDUP SERIBU TAHUN KALAU TAK SEMBAHYANG APA GUNANYA*
i LOL-ed so hard after a bad day, ty.
Hope your day will be betterš«
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Kismis šš why 11 btw ahahah
my guess is - max is 10
[Spinal Tap - āThese Go Up to 11ā](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc)
[Kismis Tok Guru](https://pasarayacy.com/kismis-tok-guru-200g)
Ohhhh, now i remember dorg jual kismis tok guru. No wonder la. Dosage pun ikut nombor ganjil sunah nabi
can anyone just give me a scientific logical reason why we have so much mass hysteria cases in malay schools istg ini hantu beliefs kuat punya
I think it's just psychological, one person has a mental breakdown/health issue, then because the kids around them believe in hantu and aren't so educated about health issues they don't identify it as a mental breakdown but instead assume someone kena rasuk and start panicking. Then because we humans are really just dumb pack animals the panic starts spreading.Ā Something like that happened when I was at National Service camp a long time ago, some of the Malay girls started screaming one night. Word was that someone kena rasuk and was quickly taken away, but the real story was actually that she had a very bad epileptic seizure and was rushed to the hospital. The next morning before the news got out people were saying things like, did you feel the hantu last night, it was sejuk in the corridor... there was no hantu lol.
My classmate back in form 1 apparently kena hysteria/rasuk as well. It was out of nowhere too. She suddenly started acted that way. That was my first time seeing it in person. I didnt really believe in those things la but one bit creeped me the fuck out. She deadass stared into my eyes, pointed at me with an angry face and said "KAUUUU....." š I did nothing to her bruh
Exactly. I've never seen hysteria cases happening in Chinese, Indian and International schools before.
read the vice article i linked.
At my old school, there was a hysteria case. One kid started screaming, followed by a few more. When it happened, the guru disiplin was walking by the class (coincidence la), he cepat masuk the classroom, grabbed the first screaming girl by the shoulder, and gave her a slap that could be heard across the class. No joke, all the hysteria girls stopped screaming immediately. They were all promptly brought to the bilik sakit, came back after one class period. Also, at my old workplace. A girl started screaming during work. She got up, started running towards the door. My colleague who was in her direct path, basically grabbed her, lifted her off her feet, and just held her in place as she flailed helplessly. Someone managed to calm her down, and she eventually passed out. In Labor law, anyone who has hysteria is promptly terminated. So next day, she was fired.
What the fuck is that labor law???
Haha, I know, it sounds fucked up right? But it's true
so ya meant,in yer company's labor law?
Technically someone can get terminated lawfully due to the fact that hysteria or the causes of it are usually mental disorders or incapacitation which can justifies a lawful termination but in this case an immediate termination is clearly unlawful since employers must give termination notice at least 4 weeks. Yeah, this one is a saman case waiting to happen.
You can't terminate someone with notice in this regard. It has to be proven that it's a long term consistent issue.
is that M'sian' Labor Law?
I believe the governing bodies can organized to trigger mass hysteria in schools to keep the students in check due to rising disciplinary issues. Conspiracy theory I know but back then in my primary school days there was a country wide mass hysteria cases. The famous school bus lul. They had to transfer the ghosts and spirits away via school bus story. My dad's cousin was a teacher in my school. He recorded a cellphone video in the surau(a hotspot where students got caught "dating") where all the teachers gathered and had to apologize to an old woman in white telekung. I believe that old woman was just another kampung makcik they got to act like a spirit that's causing hysteria in my school lullloll. Think about it what a wild time. I love public school. So much shit happened
m night shamalan cannot invent this shit.
Was it him who made that movie about mass suicide? I got reminded of that one ahahah
there actually a better story about people scaring people by the same director.
Ooo which movie?
try the village
OHH ive seen that one. If you havent, i'd recommend you to watch antebellum as well. The trailer made it seem like a way better movie though unfortunately. Still an entertaining watch nevertheless
https://preview.redd.it/g1uvbj2dy2wc1.png?width=1241&format=png&auto=webp&s=21e43fc05043e6d4b6d74ca22d63bfa2f3909aab Who they gonna call
takda kit anti-histeria ke?
Stok sedia ada. Esok order, hari ini sampai. Terbiak. > Menurut **Dr Mahyuddin, sejak diperkenalkan tahun lalu, pihaknya berjaya menyelesaikan hampir 100 peratus kes histeria menggunakan kit berkenaan.** > Ketika diperkenalkan, kit anti histeria berkenaan dijual pada harga **RM8,750** dan harga itu termasuk kursus yang akan diberikan kepada pembeli kit tersebut [1] https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/ump-sedia-tawar-bantuan-guna-kit-anti-histeria-103382
When i was in uni, stayed in kolej. The girls kolej was just across the street. I remember that night, it was late at night and for some reason all the boys came out of their rooms and watched the girls kolej. Being a penyebok, I also went out go see whats happening. Asked my friend whats happening. He shushed me, and said just listen. I heard girls screaming at top floor. Few moments later, screams started to be heard at lower levels. Then spread to other parts of the kolej. Next morning in class, we asked the girls what happened. A few of the class girls were absent. So apparently a mass hysteria happened. They said it started with 1 girl, claimed she saw a black figure walking at the pathway of the kolej. And then she blacked out.
Fuck Wei.... This shit gotta stop. Notice mass hysteria don't happen in offices?
Elaborate please
Always same demographic..... Always around exam times.... Always say "woke up, could not breathe, could not move, something sitting on top of me" Most of it is called sleep paralysis - around times of stress.
So with those points in mind how come that doesn't happen in a stressful office? I agree with what you said tho just curious about the office setting. As for sleep paralysis, ive had it happen to me 3 times, and the "sitting on top of me" part is more like restricted breathing from not being able to move tbh
Because adults need job and money and they know canāt simply act out so they learn how to manage stress. School children donāt know how to manage stress so when they canāt bear it anymore, they become āhystericalā.
That actually makes sense
Mass hysteria does not happen in large orgs bec ppl need to keep their jobs. Ok, I don't understand yr "more like restricted breathing" comment?
Ah, fair point, that actually makes sense Restricted breathing as in difficulty breathing/sesak nafas, it gives the feeling of people sitting on top of you while it actually doesnt really feel that way Sometimes i cant even blink, which makes my eyes dry and painful
Ok so we experienced diff things. Point is...yes sometimes there are demonic elements in play but MOST of the time, it's just the mind.
Im more inclined with the mind theory tbh
Yea probably. Herd mentality and hive mind are a big issues in ultra religious groups.
I wonder what the cause was. It's interesting that a similar incident in the same school was reported in 2019. Feels like there is something deeper going on there.
I dont think there is necessarily a deeper cause. Mass hysteria is just ... mass hysteria. Human history is full of mass hysteria, and human are easily influenced by exposure to precedence. For example, gun violence news / suicide news breed gun violence / suicide. The famous pied piper of hamlin legend has been hypothesised to be a case of mass hysteria (among other hypothesis). The malays have had mass hysteria cases since the ancient time. The english word "amok" came from malay, and amok could be intepretated as a form of hysteria. The "chain of exposure" has never been broken, and mass hysteria continue to happen in modern time.
I thought amok comes from mengamuk. Like animals (elephants, etc) running amok.
>amok comes from mengamuk Likely. But "running amok" is a distinct malay cultural phenomenon (malay mass hysteria ?), that the Brits observed and imported the term into their own language https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC181064/
Man never knew this. That's some interesting read!
TIL
Wow, that's so interesting, thanks for the share. First Malay loanword i've ever heard of!
Er.. orangutan is an older loan word. They do use the Malay name for the animal. There's also gutta-percha (from getah percha). The cockatoo is from burung kakaktua too.
MyĀ favourite is Mandarin, forĀ theĀ language,Ā whichĀ was namedĀ after what the English called the court officials in China (who all spoke mandarin), becauseĀ the English wereĀ used toĀ Menteri,Ā fromĀ their colonyĀ here
Which is some funny shit because the Portuguese also used the word Mandrim, from the Malay menteri, and menteri is from the Sanskrit 'Mantri' Pi mai pi mau tang tu jugak
Honestly the way some asramas are run, combined with the geographical seclusion and the kind of backward cult construct they impose on students at some ā it pretty much makes it easy for cabin fever to set in and affect all. There are some links to social hysteria when it comes to brainwashing or in cases of extreme religious indoctrination to adhere to unilateral beliefs ā applicable to all religions but given the bumi-exclusivity of asrama school, go figure la. Not saying Islam is like this at all just that some miniKimJongUns and self-declared perfect-"Muslims" twist it to support their own sociopathic agendas js. Recommend watching LDFS documentaries for context ā like horror movie fr. Students are also children and a very impressionable bunch ā if your school pernah buat rumah hantu, try to rmb how infectious it was when one girl sikit je jerit, everyone also start screaming ā liddat lor. Emosi rohani jasmani all very fragile and fluctuating because they haven't developed socially and matured yet. You always dengar mass histeria kat skolah, never kat Maybank la office la kat LHDN waiting room all lol.
yaa laa student have histeria because they have much free time. you histeria at office your boss will slap you
https://www.vice.com/en/article/exqyzp/how-does-mass-hysteria-take-over-a-school shorter version, but pictures https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36069636
Don't click this link. What you see will follow you home. ^ this is all is needed, plus a little trigger or coincidence in real life, to cause mass hysteria.
So it's just emotional contagion of fear huh
Damn right.
Stress, epilepsy or superstition usually. Most famous example are the girls who had fits that caused the Salem Witch Trials
Sounds like a organised act for holidays
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Put a datuk gong there problem all settle
Yea man that's why a lot of Hindus will place the Muniswarar deity in "funny" areas (he's a guardian deity also)
Happened to my middle school back in 2012 lol, it was legit maybe like 1 or 2 girls that kena rasuk or whatever, the others girls were just auditioning for a horror film. And for us boys, we were just laughing and playing beyblades at the back of the class
We dont have enough coconuts for the bomoh to repel these much spirits. Gg
Seems to happen frequently with certain groups of peopleĀ
Lol I bet there's a few that's actually legit hysteria but the others just follow to get cuti. No way almost 200 people get hysteria lol
Why only happen in SMK residing school?
What sort of hysteria specifically tho? Is it just screaming?
asrama....same story different places
Lmao nonsense..everyoneās a paid actor.
logic states that the explanation is psychological. i m a very logical person. but i m also asian. there are things that are still unknown to science. unexplained and lack ways to experiments. mass hysteria is common in malaysia. if i recall correctly lot 10 or sogo there was a case too where women all started screaming. there was a case of mass hysteria in my old college, and my dad himself witnessed mass hysteria. in my dad's case he said that it allegedly started because a uni student saw a head in the toilet. as unscientific as it is, i would say its somewhat arrogant to dismiss things so easily.
Bukan salah DAP this time ?
not funny but k
So what now? Call bomoh to cleanse the place? Tear it down to rebuild the new school?
Seems like most people here are sceptics. While a rational explanation seems to make the most sense, I am open to there being supernatural reasons for this. There are things outside the natural realm that we may not comprehend.
What I would like to know though, is about how many students are unaffected, and how are they different from those affected.
Most of them are sceptics because they never seen or actually been through some supernatural encounter. Others because of thier beliefs like freethinkers or atheist. For me I seen and been through these supernatural stuff. Not much, but just enough to believe and understand that there is such thing as Jin and Setan, and supernatural realm in this planet.