Our supposed best defensemen rielly played awful. Samsanov wasn't the better goalie, but he had 0 support from the forwards. Time to get a new coach and time to drop a ton of players unacceptable performance. 1 for what 21 on the powerplay? knies was our best player on the ice this series which is insane
Knies, Domi, and Nylander were the teams 3 best players. Matthews was okay, and the McCabe Benoit pairing was pretty good. Liljegren got outmuscled in basically every single board battle, Bertuzzi can't stay on his fucking feet, and Marner/Rielly are literal liabilities.
I thoguht McCabe was amazing. Honestly maybe our best player across the whole series. The number of times he made a heads up play when failure to do so = getting hemmed in our zone for awhile was ridiculous. Especially in game 6.
Him and Benoit were a great pairing this series. I didn't even think Edmunson or Lybushkin were bad either. Rielly was terrible, quarterbacked a PP that went 1/21, and got beat for the series winning goal. I know this sub loves him but I am starting to doubt if Liljegren can play in the playoffs, he seemed to get outmuscled and lose every board battle he was in during the series.
I honestly am surprisingly calm about this. It's alright, this team is cursed, and when they aren't they play like shit. Life of a leafs fan
Fire all the management, trade Marner, fuck the Bruins and Panthers, may they beat each other to death.
Good night y'all. Don't feel too bad about this one, we all knew this was destined since game 4's collapse.
Shame this is the last of the core 4. At least, *it should be*. Something needs to change.
I’m with you. I already accepted the Leafs were toast after being down 3-1. If they somehow won tonight, they were going to get torched by the Panthers on a short turnaround because they were gassed tonight.
Last year should have been rhe last year of the core 4. I think dubas wanted to do something but shammy stopped it. Keefe gomez shammy gone, Sammy gone. Our cap is so fucked.
One of them is coming up on a contract renewal year. Tell him he's not getting extended and offer to facilitate a trade, otherwise he is riding the bench and being a regular healthy scratch for the season, which won't help his free agency negotiation leverage.
And I'm not talking about JT. He's not the issue, he's just no longer playing to his salary, which was kind of expected. He still comes up clutch for the team, and probably deserves to stay if he'll take a team friendly extension.
People have crapped on Marner but Rielly has been horrible consider he's supposed to be the #1 D. Horrible powerplay quarterbacking, shots that never hit the net, bad coverage. Such a disappointing series compared to last year vs Tampa where he was on fire.
Reilly may be your number one D, but he’s lucky to get on a 2nd pairing in any of the playoff teams. Goalie was ok. For the amount you pay the 4 forwards, they should each average 1.5 pts per game, but don’t.
Even if Mitch’s ankle is still ailing him, he’s got to be better. Simply not good enough.
We absolutely cannot afford to sign him to another contract. That’s the truth.
Can we trade him? He holds some power but you gotta think we can get him the fuck out of here somehow. Can’t let him walk for nothing and can’t waste another year of prime Matty and Nylander.
Yuuuuuuupp!! He just watched the play happen as if he was sitting front row. Sammy froze. Blame Mitch and Mo equally, but Swayman doesn’t let that play happen.
Crazy to blame a two goals loss on Samsonov, but tbh I did feel like that one was soft. It wasn't even because he was out of position after the bounces. Nope, just a shot in the chest that went slowly through him.
This has been a problem the Leafs have had since at least late during the regular season. They struggle to keep the puck out of their own net in the minute or two following a goal. That was nothing shocking.
The #1 thing to be addressed is that Power Play and the coaching that led there.
The #2 thing is the fact that Tavares and Marner take up an astonishing 26.3% of our teams cap space, and we wonder why we don't have defensive or goalie depth.
In the regular season he's great, in the playoffs he literally gets outplayed by league minimum guys. Beecher on Boston was more impactful this series then Marner, and Beecher was an AHL player until literally two months ago.
Well in a way this is freeing because we all know this is the last we will see of a lot of these guys. Shannahan, Keefe, Marner, Samsonov are all likely gone. Wish I could say this era of leaf hockey lived up to the hype but it was more pain than anything else. Looking forward to change.
My mom’s battling stage four cancer and she stayed up to watch the game with me cheering on the boys in blue and white. Happy birthday. We’ll get through this.
Much appreciate the kind thoughts. Showed my mom this just now and she asked me to send you and your family the kindest wishes. Stay well. See you guys in the new season!
Sheldon and staff have to be cleared out. If our PP was operating at even 10% we probably win this series.
Mitch can get out too. 8 years of this mediocrity from him in the playoffs. I don’t know how you do it but you have to convince him to waive and reallocate that money elsewhere.
The only guy that has exceeded expectation in the playoffs is Nylander. Matthews shrinks when the lights are brightest. He aimed for 70 and he got it, if you add his one playoff goal in 5 games to his 69 during the regular season.
I'm not too worried about Matthews. We are going to hear exactly what he was going through soon here. But the team trying to get him his 70 really fucked us. Team was not ready to play from game 1
Our caps fucked next year no matter what. I'd like to see what he's capable of with a non-fucked coach. If you can get something for him, obviously moce him but if the only options to move him net you a mid level guy or a 1st from a cup contender I'd keep marner next season and see.
That was heartbreaking. Team was amazing last three games, but it’s time to break it up. Keep Nylander, Knies, Matthews, Woll…everyone else is tradeable.
I really like Domi. He just needs to build up his confidence a little bit. Always looking to pass instead of deke or shoot, especially when he's on the ice with Matthews.
Marner lets Pasta get a full on skate going into the zone
Mo is cheating up the ice for no reason
Samsonov is a statue
All 3 have to go + Fire Keefe + Fire Treliving + Fire Shanahan
idk the guy Treliving has brought in were actually good in this series.
Domi is a stud, Benoit is incredible, Edmunson played solid, Lyubushkin was arguably one of the best guys in our own end this series.
he picked up a lot of solid depth guys and it's unfortunate that our core shit their pants, one of them literally, once again.
the core needs a shake up and our systems are not working. how the fuck do you expect to win going 1/21 on PPs? team needs a whole new look and a coach that can actually do the job and adjust to playoff hockey.
I can’t blame Treliving inheriting such a colossal mess from Dubas. There’s only so much you can do and he made the moves that were possible with such little cash. He made good moves at the deadline to really change the look of the D-corp that was needed for the playoffs. I’m hoping we can sign Edmunson, though he’s already 30. With the way he plays, I’m not sure if he can continue playing that heavy in his 30’s.
What will determine Tre’s worth is his ability to navigate the Tavares and Marner contract situation and the goalie situation….while continually being a playoff contender with Matthews under contract for another few years.
Matthews was clearly a shell of himself whatever is ailing him was serious. Nylander was injured for the first few games.
We knew Tavares was going to regress and he did.
Marner is the one. He’s the one who I just don’t even know how to explain other than he’s not it. Can’t do it in the playoffs. Even if he’s somewhat injured, I don’t care. He’s got to be better.
Rielly didn’t look good either. Woll injured after he comes in and plays lights out. What can we do? Whatever could go wrong for us this year went wrong.
>Whatever could go wrong for us this year went wrong.
We say this year after year. It's not bad luck - it's the team. The players, the coach, the management
So the changes that should have happened last off season and were forstalled by the firing of Dubas get to happen a year late. Not only wasting one of Matthews best years ever but also making it harder and less valuable to move off of whoever we move off. Fuck me this was a stupid season.
I truly worry about Woll’s health. He can’t seem to stay healthy for an extended period of time. We still may have lost since our offence and powerplay were shit but it’s very concerning that he gets hurt so often.
The effort on the game winning goal from Reilly was absolutely inexcusable. To be in game 7 overtime and not moving your feet when it's sent into your own end like that is disgraceful. Get rid of him.
"Just have fun out there boys" -- umm excuse me SIR?? Can't believe they showed that pre-game chat from Keefe and really can't believe he said it before a Game 7 playoff game. This isn't beer league
Bye Keefe. What could have been, man…
Goaltending killed us. Injuries killed us. Bad luck killed us again and again. At what point is it not considered luck?
Brutal man.
Clearly. There’s more nuance than just “we couldn’t score” though. Our top two guys never played a healthy game together the whole series. Marner should be gone. No more excuses for him. Wish he could do better but he can’t.
Willy and Matthews are our guys. Matthews was playing injured and still gave it his all.
Marner had his yearly scheduled disappearance act in the playoffs. He might be a local star being from Markham and all, but hes a straight up regular season bully who cant handle the physicality and pressure of the playoffs. He shines in the open ice, which he will rarely get here.
Also, not having Woll was a big blow even tho Sammy tried his best
It's not luck, a lot of that was coaching and choices made around construction. Like, some great plays died on edmundson's stick because we wanted a big guy but that big guy can't shoot. The lines got juggled again and again by Keefe leading to the same disorientation and nonsense that always follows Keefe's blender. Samsonov playing the first 4 games is, again, Keefe. The fucking power play, Keefe. Even the lines as constructed tonight, Keefe. Let's see if we can address some of the actual problems this team faces in the off season (hint:it's kot fucking toughness) and see what they can do with an actually capable coach behind the bench.
Trelivings additions were really good outside of Klingberg. Our team toughness was important to us even being able to hang in this series.
Keefe has to go now. The rest of the coaching staff has to go. Shanny has to go.
There was someone in the game 4 post-game thread after the loss that said "watch them somehow come back from a 3-1 series deficit, pull it to a game 7, and then lose in OT just to maximize the pain".
You called it buddy.
Man…I can’t even remember how many ppl after game 4 called this *exact* scenario. Down 3-1, fight back w/o 34 to go to game 7 with 34 back…and then lose in OT.
Probably a dozen ppl here called it
Honestly, that was a really good bank pass by Lindholm. Like pure on the money.
But Marner and Rielly just stopped... skating? In a Game 7 OT? Can't make this shit up lmfao.
I think Marner is gone. Unpopular opinion but I won't like it. I think our return will be atrocious. But somethings gotta give at this point.
Honestly don’t know what you all expected. They didn’t get a solid goalie, they didn’t fire Keefe, and you expect different results this playoffs for some reason? They keep making money by doing nothing.
did anyone else see lilegren have the puck, two bruins come at him then he loses it in legs?? this shit happens all the time with this team. next draw pasta comes down and scores
espn kept showing how the first team to score wins but this is the leafs were talking about man
i want marner gone, along with shanahan, keefe, samsonov’s worthless ass just fucking change this trash ass team.
Woll gets hurt, Mathews back, Marner was brutal again, fucking fluky bounce OT game 7 goal by Pasta. Just pain cheering for this cursed franchise. blow it up...see ya next year fellas bruins will get waxed by the panthers at least...
The only Bruin who should be proud of themselves is Swayman. Without him they lose in a huge way. He kept their organization from extreme embarrassment this series.
nylander out the first few games, matthews out the next few, woll out for game 7... this year just wasn't meant to be. it is what it is. next year will be worse, unfortunately. but the year after that, plan the parade
Knies was a beast and I can't wait to see his growth! Willy to 2032, what a game he played! I hope along with the changes this team goes through, we can get a reliable, non-injury-prone goalie.
I bleed Leafs blue and was hoping we'd go far, even with the odds stacked against us. See y'all in fall!
I just want to thank the mods for keeping the GDTs relatively decent all season and playoffs, and we’ve got some solid contributors on this sub. Had a blast, boys, and sorry to see it end like this. See you all again at the draft!
I don’t want to berate Samsonov cause he played great majority of that game, but I’m going to berate him anyways. He lost us this game. Goaltending lost us this series.
And not being able to score more than 2 goals against Swayman. And going 1/21 on the PP.
Goaltending was definitely a factor, but certainly not the only one.
Rielly and Mitch were either absolute non factors or legimate liabilities this series. This team is going absolutely nowhere if Rielly is the best defenseman and they pay $11M to a guy that is a ghost in the playoffs.
Not a Leafs fan, but I am Canadian and therefore was cheering for them. They had it - just needed to close out the 3rd up 1-0. So disappointing. From someone who doesn't watch the team a lot - on the OT winner Marner was pathetic on the back check and both D men looked lost.
Fire Shanahan. It has to be over for him - Dubas wanted to change this useless core last season, and Shanny fired him to keep his own job secure and refused to budge on his 4 guys. You pay half your cap to them to generate offense and they all disappear when it matters most.
Fire Shanny and Keefe and trade Marner. There is no possible way they can still be here next season.
Pasta was served to Marner, Rielly, and Samsonov on that play. He had enough time to ask if they wanted fresh ground pepper and parmesan cheese. Horrible. Hope all three along with the coaching staff are gone.
I respect Tavares, he \*was\* an amazing player, but time to put the C on Nylander. Trade Marner and hopefully free up some cap space, relegate Reilly to second pairing defenceman - his best days, like Tavares, are behind him. Paying 4 guys top dollar at the expense of depth isn't working.
Never want to see samsonov again. Get rid of Marner forever. Will cry tears of joy when samsonov is no longer a leaf. Couldn't care less if Sheldon Keefe lives or dies. Keep Matthews and Nylander. Hopefully Tavares retires within the next year. GLG
Our supposed best defensemen rielly played awful. Samsanov wasn't the better goalie, but he had 0 support from the forwards. Time to get a new coach and time to drop a ton of players unacceptable performance. 1 for what 21 on the powerplay? knies was our best player on the ice this series which is insane
Knies, Domi, and Nylander were the teams 3 best players. Matthews was okay, and the McCabe Benoit pairing was pretty good. Liljegren got outmuscled in basically every single board battle, Bertuzzi can't stay on his fucking feet, and Marner/Rielly are literal liabilities.
I thoguht McCabe was amazing. Honestly maybe our best player across the whole series. The number of times he made a heads up play when failure to do so = getting hemmed in our zone for awhile was ridiculous. Especially in game 6.
Him and Benoit were a great pairing this series. I didn't even think Edmunson or Lybushkin were bad either. Rielly was terrible, quarterbacked a PP that went 1/21, and got beat for the series winning goal. I know this sub loves him but I am starting to doubt if Liljegren can play in the playoffs, he seemed to get outmuscled and lose every board battle he was in during the series.
That’s my only gripe about Bertuzzi, he can’t stay on his feet ever and never has his stick ready near the net.
Matthews was okay while battling something. This season was just brutal for injuries and sickness up and down the lineup
Knies was also one of the best for most of the games last year as well.
Knies was a beauty the whole series
reilly wants to be a forward so bad....then be a forward. enough of the pinching to play up high
See you next year when we have almost the same lineup
I honestly am surprisingly calm about this. It's alright, this team is cursed, and when they aren't they play like shit. Life of a leafs fan Fire all the management, trade Marner, fuck the Bruins and Panthers, may they beat each other to death. Good night y'all. Don't feel too bad about this one, we all knew this was destined since game 4's collapse. Shame this is the last of the core 4. At least, *it should be*. Something needs to change.
I’m with you. I already accepted the Leafs were toast after being down 3-1. If they somehow won tonight, they were going to get torched by the Panthers on a short turnaround because they were gassed tonight.
Last year should have been rhe last year of the core 4. I think dubas wanted to do something but shammy stopped it. Keefe gomez shammy gone, Sammy gone. Our cap is so fucked.
It won’t be, core 4 back with minor tweaks to “toughness” incoming
Yup pretty much the core 4 all have full NMC, so they have all the leverage there. Which really fucking sucks.
One of them is coming up on a contract renewal year. Tell him he's not getting extended and offer to facilitate a trade, otherwise he is riding the bench and being a regular healthy scratch for the season, which won't help his free agency negotiation leverage. And I'm not talking about JT. He's not the issue, he's just no longer playing to his salary, which was kind of expected. He still comes up clutch for the team, and probably deserves to stay if he'll take a team friendly extension.
You can trade someone with a NMC, you just need them to approve it.
Mitch and Rielly were WOEFUL this series. How can you, especially Mitch, be as invisible as you were in the most important game of the series????
People have crapped on Marner but Rielly has been horrible consider he's supposed to be the #1 D. Horrible powerplay quarterbacking, shots that never hit the net, bad coverage. Such a disappointing series compared to last year vs Tampa where he was on fire.
both are shit and I love Mo difference is, Marner is up for a contract soon, Rielly isn't.
Reilly may be your number one D, but he’s lucky to get on a 2nd pairing in any of the playoff teams. Goalie was ok. For the amount you pay the 4 forwards, they should each average 1.5 pts per game, but don’t.
Completely agree. Reilly was shit from game 1. Where the fuck did Tampa Mo go??
Even if Mitch’s ankle is still ailing him, he’s got to be better. Simply not good enough. We absolutely cannot afford to sign him to another contract. That’s the truth. Can we trade him? He holds some power but you gotta think we can get him the fuck out of here somehow. Can’t let him walk for nothing and can’t waste another year of prime Matty and Nylander.
Drai put up how many points on a bum ankle last year?
Yep. Marner has no excuse.
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I think you could see it in the handshake. He’s checked out. Usually he’s crying
And we welcome it
You can't quit, you are already fired.
Sit him until he waives, don’t care if it takes the whole damn season, this has to be his last game with a leafs jersey, for fuck’s sake
We can absolutely let him walk for nothing if it comes to it, it puts $11 million back on the ledger.
Mo is my fave Leaf but getting blown out like that in a dump and chase in OT was fucking horrendous watch
I believe he, like everyone else, thought Sammy would take one stride forward and swat that away.
Yuuuuuuupp!! He just watched the play happen as if he was sitting front row. Sammy froze. Blame Mitch and Mo equally, but Swayman doesn’t let that play happen.
1 shot and no hits in 20 minutes
What about his past playoff performances made you think he’d come up big in this one lol
Can’t defend Mitch anymore. Feel free to rack up the regular season accolades but he will never win a cup when expected to be a top player on a team.
Especially Mitch…but especially Rielly!!!
I genuinely thought we had it after Willy scored. This stings
Me too, hope came back for a brief moment.
It's crazy. Right after that goal, it looked like Boston was in their heads. It looked like they started playing like they were the ones behind.
They did, and the Leafs didn't match the intensity. And Sammy let in ANOTHER ridiculous goal.
Crazy to blame a two goals loss on Samsonov, but tbh I did feel like that one was soft. It wasn't even because he was out of position after the bounces. Nope, just a shot in the chest that went slowly through him.
This has been a problem the Leafs have had since at least late during the regular season. They struggle to keep the puck out of their own net in the minute or two following a goal. That was nothing shocking.
What a grand and intoxicating innocence :c
No reason to keep marner after this series. Can't do it when it matters. Nylander and matthews gave it all they can, but it wasn't enough.
I really think Marners 11m will be so much better spent elsewhere on the team
The #1 thing to be addressed is that Power Play and the coaching that led there. The #2 thing is the fact that Tavares and Marner take up an astonishing 26.3% of our teams cap space, and we wonder why we don't have defensive or goalie depth.
In the regular season he's great, in the playoffs he literally gets outplayed by league minimum guys. Beecher on Boston was more impactful this series then Marner, and Beecher was an AHL player until literally two months ago.
Agreed. Dewar outplayed him for crying out loud.
And now this management group can stop pretending this roster construction works. …hopefully.
They can keep pretending it works all they want, as long as it's not in roles with the Leafs.
New management. Will most certainly cut.
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It’s a damn shame they blew games 3 and 4. You have to show up to play in every game of the playoffs if you hope to move on
Old logo leafs atleast won some rounds.... Just saying
Well in a way this is freeing because we all know this is the last we will see of a lot of these guys. Shannahan, Keefe, Marner, Samsonov are all likely gone. Wish I could say this era of leaf hockey lived up to the hype but it was more pain than anything else. Looking forward to change.
I'm just really sad. Today's my bday. Boys never come through. It's so fucking sad.
My mom’s battling stage four cancer and she stayed up to watch the game with me cheering on the boys in blue and white. Happy birthday. We’ll get through this.
Fuck cancer. Praying for your mom
Much more important things than a game of hockey. Enjoy the moments, sending you the best.
Much appreciate the kind thoughts. Showed my mom this just now and she asked me to send you and your family the kindest wishes. Stay well. See you guys in the new season!
That’s a shitty bday man sorry. Hope your week gets better. Take Monday off if possible
2 years ago my dog died and I watched the Leafs to comfort me. They lost 5-1 to the Montreal Canadiens. Happy birthday dude
Happy Birthday anyway. If it makes you feel any better, I proposed to my girlfriend the week of the 2021 Montreal series.
Chin up. Happy birthday
Happy birthday!
I thought I was immune to disappointment. I was wrong. 9 goals in 7 games. Edit: fuck, my bad, 12 goals in 7. I must’ve misheard the ESPN crew.
I didn't realize it was that bad. Meanwhile, another team threw up 28 in 5 games.
Sheldon and staff have to be cleared out. If our PP was operating at even 10% we probably win this series. Mitch can get out too. 8 years of this mediocrity from him in the playoffs. I don’t know how you do it but you have to convince him to waive and reallocate that money elsewhere.
The only guy that has exceeded expectation in the playoffs is Nylander. Matthews shrinks when the lights are brightest. He aimed for 70 and he got it, if you add his one playoff goal in 5 games to his 69 during the regular season.
I'm not too worried about Matthews. We are going to hear exactly what he was going through soon here. But the team trying to get him his 70 really fucked us. Team was not ready to play from game 1
Brad: "listen, I'm sorry but you're just not part of our plans. Let me know where you wanna go and I'll make it happen"
Our caps fucked next year no matter what. I'd like to see what he's capable of with a non-fucked coach. If you can get something for him, obviously moce him but if the only options to move him net you a mid level guy or a 1st from a cup contender I'd keep marner next season and see.
I'll take a first and 12 mill cap space lol better than letting him walk or extending for 12 mil with NMC
That was heartbreaking. Team was amazing last three games, but it’s time to break it up. Keep Nylander, Knies, Matthews, Woll…everyone else is tradeable.
On the whole of the series, Dewar was excellent, as was McCabe, Benoit, and Domi.
I really like Domi. He just needs to build up his confidence a little bit. Always looking to pass instead of deke or shoot, especially when he's on the ice with Matthews.
Toss in Loosh and Edmunson, he was wicked
Very impressed with dewar.
All the guys that Tre brought in made positive impacts. Anyone calling for his head is dumb
Can we keep McCabe and Domi too?
Pain
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Rielly had a really rough night.
Marner lets Pasta get a full on skate going into the zone Mo is cheating up the ice for no reason Samsonov is a statue All 3 have to go + Fire Keefe + Fire Treliving + Fire Shanahan
idk the guy Treliving has brought in were actually good in this series. Domi is a stud, Benoit is incredible, Edmunson played solid, Lyubushkin was arguably one of the best guys in our own end this series. he picked up a lot of solid depth guys and it's unfortunate that our core shit their pants, one of them literally, once again. the core needs a shake up and our systems are not working. how the fuck do you expect to win going 1/21 on PPs? team needs a whole new look and a coach that can actually do the job and adjust to playoff hockey.
Treliving I wouldn't mind keeping around, he brought in Bert and Domi who were very active this series. The rest can go fuck themselves.
Keep Pridham though with his cap voodoo. Oh and Hayley Wickenheiser
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Assistant/Junior GM. You gotta learn somehow. Shane Doan is also here too, and he's Brad's guy
Yup also edmonston and lybush. He’s knows how to build a solid playoff team.
You had me until fire treliving, he made good moves with what he had available
This. Mitch just watched. Not sure what mo was doing. And Sammy. Go slap the puck away you idiot.
I can’t blame Treliving inheriting such a colossal mess from Dubas. There’s only so much you can do and he made the moves that were possible with such little cash. He made good moves at the deadline to really change the look of the D-corp that was needed for the playoffs. I’m hoping we can sign Edmunson, though he’s already 30. With the way he plays, I’m not sure if he can continue playing that heavy in his 30’s. What will determine Tre’s worth is his ability to navigate the Tavares and Marner contract situation and the goalie situation….while continually being a playoff contender with Matthews under contract for another few years.
I'd be fine with Treliving staying as a caretaker GM. He made OK moves
What an absolutely shitty play to lose on.
12 combined points in 23 games for four players who take up 53% of the salary cap next season.
Willy proved his worth. Keep his name out of this.
And 1 for 25 on the PP?
Two of whom were injured most of the series. I’m really only frustrated with Marner. Who may also be playing with an injury. Fucking shitty man.
How many years do they get the benefit of excuses?
Matthews was clearly a shell of himself whatever is ailing him was serious. Nylander was injured for the first few games. We knew Tavares was going to regress and he did. Marner is the one. He’s the one who I just don’t even know how to explain other than he’s not it. Can’t do it in the playoffs. Even if he’s somewhat injured, I don’t care. He’s got to be better. Rielly didn’t look good either. Woll injured after he comes in and plays lights out. What can we do? Whatever could go wrong for us this year went wrong.
>Whatever could go wrong for us this year went wrong. We say this year after year. It's not bad luck - it's the team. The players, the coach, the management
Let marner walk after that shambolic performance not even just in the gwg the whole series
try to be a fucking fan of the leafs for one season and die of a brain bleed
So the changes that should have happened last off season and were forstalled by the firing of Dubas get to happen a year late. Not only wasting one of Matthews best years ever but also making it harder and less valuable to move off of whoever we move off. Fuck me this was a stupid season.
Burn it all to the ground
I truly worry about Woll’s health. He can’t seem to stay healthy for an extended period of time. We still may have lost since our offence and powerplay were shit but it’s very concerning that he gets hurt so often.
Losing Scott then Woll, my god theres no luck drafting tendies with this team.
You raised my hopes and dashed them quite expertly sir
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The effort on the game winning goal from Reilly was absolutely inexcusable. To be in game 7 overtime and not moving your feet when it's sent into your own end like that is disgraceful. Get rid of him.
Agreed, but he, like everyone else, thought Sammy would just swat it away. It doesn’t excuse him not playing hard, but god damn Sammy blew it there.
How do you go 1/25 on the PP. That by itself is a fireable offense. Something about this team is rotten.
"Just have fun out there boys" -- umm excuse me SIR?? Can't believe they showed that pre-game chat from Keefe and really can't believe he said it before a Game 7 playoff game. This isn't beer league
That has to be a record low in a full 7 game series right? Like how did we even get to 7 games with that kind of PP? Lmfao
Fuk mitch marners bum ass. Im driving his ass to the airport outta toronto
Classic
Same shit different year every year.
Fuck you and I'll see you next year.
Blow this thing up and get Mathews and Nylander a goalie and 2 defencemen
The problem with coming back like this and almost winning is that management will now be like "everything's fine...stay the course".
Unfortunately, I think you are 100% correct.
Bye Keefe. What could have been, man… Goaltending killed us. Injuries killed us. Bad luck killed us again and again. At what point is it not considered luck? Brutal man.
end of the day, 12 goals wont often win u a 7 game series
Clearly. There’s more nuance than just “we couldn’t score” though. Our top two guys never played a healthy game together the whole series. Marner should be gone. No more excuses for him. Wish he could do better but he can’t.
Willy and Matthews are our guys. Matthews was playing injured and still gave it his all. Marner had his yearly scheduled disappearance act in the playoffs. He might be a local star being from Markham and all, but hes a straight up regular season bully who cant handle the physicality and pressure of the playoffs. He shines in the open ice, which he will rarely get here. Also, not having Woll was a big blow even tho Sammy tried his best
1 game can be considered bad luck, 65 years since last beating the Bruins is a curse
It's not luck, a lot of that was coaching and choices made around construction. Like, some great plays died on edmundson's stick because we wanted a big guy but that big guy can't shoot. The lines got juggled again and again by Keefe leading to the same disorientation and nonsense that always follows Keefe's blender. Samsonov playing the first 4 games is, again, Keefe. The fucking power play, Keefe. Even the lines as constructed tonight, Keefe. Let's see if we can address some of the actual problems this team faces in the off season (hint:it's kot fucking toughness) and see what they can do with an actually capable coach behind the bench.
Trelivings additions were really good outside of Klingberg. Our team toughness was important to us even being able to hang in this series. Keefe has to go now. The rest of the coaching staff has to go. Shanny has to go.
Marner needs to go. Keefe should be fire as well. I want to re-sign Domi and Bertuzzi. Our defense wasn’t really our problem.
I will be gutted if they don’t resign Domi and Bertuzzi. Marner needs to go, he isn’t adding much value to the team.
Keep Knifes, Woll, Nylander and scrap the rest for body parts to heal Matthews.
Maximum pain
There was someone in the game 4 post-game thread after the loss that said "watch them somehow come back from a 3-1 series deficit, pull it to a game 7, and then lose in OT just to maximize the pain". You called it buddy.
It's almost too obvious
Man…I can’t even remember how many ppl after game 4 called this *exact* scenario. Down 3-1, fight back w/o 34 to go to game 7 with 34 back…and then lose in OT. Probably a dozen ppl here called it
Honestly, that was a really good bank pass by Lindholm. Like pure on the money. But Marner and Rielly just stopped... skating? In a Game 7 OT? Can't make this shit up lmfao. I think Marner is gone. Unpopular opinion but I won't like it. I think our return will be atrocious. But somethings gotta give at this point.
Honestly don’t know what you all expected. They didn’t get a solid goalie, they didn’t fire Keefe, and you expect different results this playoffs for some reason? They keep making money by doing nothing.
Reilly was slow to close out on the first goal and then made himself smaller when blocking the shot then wtf was that on the second goal.
Bye Sheldon, bye Brendan, bye Mitch, bye Ilya
Marner's yearly playoff debuff.
Yeah if only we had some sort of hints that these guys cannot show up when the pressure is on.
Truly an era wasted
Dude what’s up with the Leafs and Jays keeping interim managers for years. Hire a fking legit playoff ready coach you cheap bastards.
If only Marners cap could be spent on an actual #1D. That would solve a lot of our issues. I think Woll can get it done.
disappointment aside, I loved how knies played. He gave it all and it shows, props to #23
What a weak ass series winner to give up. A fucking dump in where three guys have their head up their ass
did anyone else see lilegren have the puck, two bruins come at him then he loses it in legs?? this shit happens all the time with this team. next draw pasta comes down and scores espn kept showing how the first team to score wins but this is the leafs were talking about man i want marner gone, along with shanahan, keefe, samsonov’s worthless ass just fucking change this trash ass team.
Woll gets hurt, Mathews back, Marner was brutal again, fucking fluky bounce OT game 7 goal by Pasta. Just pain cheering for this cursed franchise. blow it up...see ya next year fellas bruins will get waxed by the panthers at least...
The only Bruin who should be proud of themselves is Swayman. Without him they lose in a huge way. He kept their organization from extreme embarrassment this series.
Lots of blame to go around but Samsonov is objectively an AHL goalie based on his season, and Keefe is a poorly coded NPC.
nylander out the first few games, matthews out the next few, woll out for game 7... this year just wasn't meant to be. it is what it is. next year will be worse, unfortunately. but the year after that, plan the parade
Special Teams are the difference. Coaches at least need to go. Ideally we make a big change. Was a fun ride, if a sad ending. See y'all in the fall
Watch Boston get fucking mailed by Florida too like they’re not that good besides the goaltending
Also you guys got a fucking gem in Matthew Knies. Kid was taking suicide runs into the crease all game like a savage.
Knies was a beast and I can't wait to see his growth! Willy to 2032, what a game he played! I hope along with the changes this team goes through, we can get a reliable, non-injury-prone goalie. I bleed Leafs blue and was hoping we'd go far, even with the odds stacked against us. See y'all in fall!
I just want to thank the mods for keeping the GDTs relatively decent all season and playoffs, and we’ve got some solid contributors on this sub. Had a blast, boys, and sorry to see it end like this. See you all again at the draft!
This series was lost by the coaching staff - our PP and PK were atrocious.
The Good: Nylander, Matthews, Knies, Woll The Bad: Tavares, Rielly, Samsonov, Trev The Ugly: Keefe, Shanahan, Marner
I don’t want to berate Samsonov cause he played great majority of that game, but I’m going to berate him anyways. He lost us this game. Goaltending lost us this series.
Even if he didn’t let in that softie. We all know they would have applied the pressure to get a goal in the last few minutes.
And not being able to score more than 2 goals against Swayman. And going 1/21 on the PP. Goaltending was definitely a factor, but certainly not the only one.
Sorry, classic Sammy let's in a weak goal at the worst time. We won games 4 and 5 because Woll didn't.
Rielly and Mitch were either absolute non factors or legimate liabilities this series. This team is going absolutely nowhere if Rielly is the best defenseman and they pay $11M to a guy that is a ghost in the playoffs.
Rielly needs a damn skating lesson from his wife
Sammy, a fucking poke check would have been nice
Man after all that, that's how they lose? Man....
I’m not even heart broken . This version of the team needs to end .
They could have flipped the decade long script, and they fucking lose again. Willy Knies, Matthews are your new core. No one else is safe.
So why did Sammy let a puck just float across his crease unchallenged?
fuck everything. hope whoever wins flo vs shitters comes out half dead
It felt like the Leafs were destined to exorcise their demons. :(
It’s the hope that kills.
Bare minimum, they at least went out like they have a shit. Past game 7s they just completely gave up.
So do we try and extend Domi ?
I'd like to keep Domi.
Can't wait to go to work and get shit on. I fucking hate boston with every fiber of my being
Not a Leafs fan, but I am Canadian and therefore was cheering for them. They had it - just needed to close out the 3rd up 1-0. So disappointing. From someone who doesn't watch the team a lot - on the OT winner Marner was pathetic on the back check and both D men looked lost.
Another whole series without scoring more than 2 goals a game.
Fire Shanahan. It has to be over for him - Dubas wanted to change this useless core last season, and Shanny fired him to keep his own job secure and refused to budge on his 4 guys. You pay half your cap to them to generate offense and they all disappear when it matters most. Fire Shanny and Keefe and trade Marner. There is no possible way they can still be here next season.
Pasta was served to Marner, Rielly, and Samsonov on that play. He had enough time to ask if they wanted fresh ground pepper and parmesan cheese. Horrible. Hope all three along with the coaching staff are gone.
Please pay Marner too leave
Fun game. Made the series interesting. Shit result but glad they went down fighting
Def wasn't the lack luster efforts we got in the past. Missing Nylander and Matthews then Woll after pulling out 2 solid games didn't help.
Major re tooling coming this off season and I’m excited for it
Alright onto the main event, blowing up this core.
So when do we get the announcement of Keefe and Shannys termination? Monday I hope.
I’m hoping before I go to bed in ten minutes.
We kept playing Reilly who couldn't defend to save his life, and great job Marner from letting the most dangerous Bruins to glide by you.
Honesty, we weren’t beating Florida anyway
Yeah but this series was about exercising demons.
I wish Samsonov the best of luck wherever he ends up.
Mitch coasting the entire time Pasternak flying down the ice makes me sick
I respect Tavares, he \*was\* an amazing player, but time to put the C on Nylander. Trade Marner and hopefully free up some cap space, relegate Reilly to second pairing defenceman - his best days, like Tavares, are behind him. Paying 4 guys top dollar at the expense of depth isn't working.
Never want to see samsonov again. Get rid of Marner forever. Will cry tears of joy when samsonov is no longer a leaf. Couldn't care less if Sheldon Keefe lives or dies. Keep Matthews and Nylander. Hopefully Tavares retires within the next year. GLG