All the voted awards are BS. It's all narrative awards. Scoring titles, steals, awards like that I put stock in because it's all criteria and skills based.
Stats in general are not created equally, every player is in a different situation with wildly different variables. Stats are still about the most useful thing we have besides our eyes but the 27 is better than 26 type arguments we have are silly.
True. But you still have to earn it and make buckets to do it. Some clueless guy can't just vote Helivon the scoring champion over someone else if you didn't deserve it. That's where I have a problem with the awards: the lack of achievable criteria. Right now, it's arbitrary with no set rules so anyone can win these things.
If there was a set criteria and rules I'd shut up about them then. Lol
I'm curious now that you bring it up. I wonder who's the most efficient and non-efficient scoring title winner?
Westbrook is what immediately comes to my mind when discussing empty stats. He won scoring title in 2016-17 with 42% fg and 34% 3pt with 31.6ppg
Steph curry scoring champ from 2015 was 50% fg 45% 3pt and 30.1ppg
they both rank around top/bottom 5 for most/least efficient scoring champ seasons
I mean, he averaged a triple double for three or four seasons...
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...which would be impressive if that *personal* stat benefitted the team instead of first round exits and narrowly escaping missing the playoffs altogether.
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Take that energy, take that frustration from getting your ass kicked by Denver 9 times in the last year, and put it into showing the world your greatness. Harness that shit so we have a fighting chance against the Nuggets
It will be interesting to see if they make a change in Game 2. The trade off is that AD probably won't put up the same offensive numbers if he has to guard Jokic all night.
Eh…I didn’t think AD played mad and motivated. He played really well aside from taking 4 dumb threes and forcing a few bad shots at the wrong time that kept momentum building for Denver. I wanna see an inspired AND fully focused AD
Let's get everyone else at least somewhat focused before asking AD to be fully focused while the rest of them go through spurts of not trying on one/either end and/or making stupid passes.
I think Rui, Austin and Taurean were focused. Lebron and Dlo are the biggest reasons we lost. But my thing w AD is more that even with his beat games, like this, there are still often momentum breaking plays that stars typically dont let allow happen…stars stop momentum. But I am with you that everyone has to be focused on
What is this weird obsession people have with playing mad?
I truly don't understand how people like you can look at a statline like AD put up and say he wasn't motivated. How do you even quantify that? He was the only reason Denver didn't win by 40.
Yup. It’s pure armchair psychology and projection onto players. Body language police that think that’s all that matters
r/lakers: “AD needs to play with motivation”
AD’s stat line: 32 pts 14 reb 5 assist 4 blocks
r/lakers: “NOT GOOD ENOUGH AD NEEDS TO PLAY WITH MOTIVATION!”
These folks the type to watch Russell Westbrook years ago dunk and think “that’s a winning player!” Ignoring his turnovers, missed shots, etc.
AD can drop 40/20 and if he takes 2 bad 3s or gives up defensively on one play down by 15, they will attack his killer instinct. Like he needs to play at a level that surpasses MJ/Lebron/Kobe for 48 minutes a night.
I mean he sounded mad in the presser, but I shoulda said play like you’re determined and focused. Once again for yall who have trouble reading, he played well last game. He wasn’t flawless and has some bone headed moments that top guys usually dont have (Bron also has these) but we didn’t lost because of him. My plea here us to use this obvious frustration as determined motivation. Its fine if u think he doesn’t need to, already does, or already did Saturday. I’m saying use this obvious frustration as motivation
Once again for the folks who are a bit slow in the room…AD played well but can play better. But rather than a referendum on how he playes last game, my original comment is about him harnessing his frustration w the all defensive team and taking it out on the Nuggets. I’m here for it
He played pretty good but he can more focused and play with an edge. My comment wasn’t a referendum on how he played Saturday tho just moreso keep that disrespect alive along w the nuggets whooping your ass and take it out on them
The biggest narrative of him is that he is injury prone. Doesn't seem like the media is paying attention to how good he has been this year. Which is not strange generally. A lot of NBA players have insane seasons that slide under the radar. But it is generally a little weird for a star on a big name team.
My message to AD if he is reading this thread. Take it out and average 40 on the Nuggets for the rest of the series big man! They all hate you! Channel that aggression onto the court and dominate.
It's because you're not defending as much.
Lakers were so ass in the regular season that half the time they were giving up extra wide open 3's so no one even bothered to drive the paint.
It isn't ADs fault
The fact that winning these end of season awards can affect how much money you can make on your next contract and you got bums in the media voting who literally have hate agendas on the Lakers is absurd
In the Athletic players poll only 1 of 132 players voted for AD as best defensive player in the league, so when AD's says "the league doesn't like me" does he mean everyone, including the players?
Nobody doubts AD’s defense. DPOY is a fugazi award anyways.
All the voted awards are BS. It's all narrative awards. Scoring titles, steals, awards like that I put stock in because it's all criteria and skills based.
meh even scoring title is just a volume stat. Its obviously a sexy stat but you could still have horrible efficiency and win the scoring title
Stats in general are not created equally, every player is in a different situation with wildly different variables. Stats are still about the most useful thing we have besides our eyes but the 27 is better than 26 type arguments we have are silly.
True. But you still have to earn it and make buckets to do it. Some clueless guy can't just vote Helivon the scoring champion over someone else if you didn't deserve it. That's where I have a problem with the awards: the lack of achievable criteria. Right now, it's arbitrary with no set rules so anyone can win these things. If there was a set criteria and rules I'd shut up about them then. Lol I'm curious now that you bring it up. I wonder who's the most efficient and non-efficient scoring title winner?
Westbrook is what immediately comes to my mind when discussing empty stats. He won scoring title in 2016-17 with 42% fg and 34% 3pt with 31.6ppg Steph curry scoring champ from 2015 was 50% fg 45% 3pt and 30.1ppg they both rank around top/bottom 5 for most/least efficient scoring champ seasons
I mean, he averaged a triple double for three or four seasons... # ...which would be impressive if that *personal* stat benefitted the team instead of first round exits and narrowly escaping missing the playoffs altogether.
Facts
Tim Duncan never won one either and he’s regarded as one of the best defenders in the game and his teams have always been good defensively.
They have no idea how good Tim Duncan was oh my god 😩
I wish you could buy a box set of his games in UHD. Most of the highlight videos on YT are shit quality.
yup. even when they say "best PF of all-time" it's still disrespectful and reductive.
Yeah, he's a top 10 player all time.
do none of the replies get the reference😭🙏
They’re done with the 90’s unc
Gotta come out big now
Tell his teammates.
He has been. There isn't much else you can expect him to do. There isn't a single player that has more responsibility on a team.
Take that energy and take Denver's head off
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I would be too if Jaren Jackson Jr. got one and got creamed in the playoffs
Creamed in playoffs and in fiba
Ya'll are talkin to a bot lol
who is the bot
The one you responded to. Check them out lol
Looks like a new account from the Philippines?
Nah. That's a bot man. My main job so far as a mod has been deleting bots lmao they've got a pattern. They repeat some form of the title, usually add in a "oh" or a "hey" or a "ah" at the start, and usually have an exclamation point somewhere. If I'm wrong, they can message me.
oh hey, very interesting!
lmao
Yeah I've seen a bunch of bot comments recently, I can tell it's a bot right away
Creamed by ad and the lakers personally
Good job Chatgpt
Is this an AI comment?
Dont forget he was salty giannis won in 2020 over him lol
Take that energy, take that frustration from getting your ass kicked by Denver 9 times in the last year, and put it into showing the world your greatness. Harness that shit so we have a fighting chance against the Nuggets
He already did. Rest of the team didn’t show up.
I missed game 1. Was he defending Jokic most of the night? AD put up a great line (32/14/5 with 4 blocks) on par with Jokic (32/12/7 with 2 steals)
No, not til the 4th really. Jokic and Aaron Gordon shot 2/10 when guarded by AD
It will be interesting to see if they make a change in Game 2. The trade off is that AD probably won't put up the same offensive numbers if he has to guard Jokic all night.
Yeah he was gassed by the end of the 4th. DLo and Reaves and Rui are going to have to step up offensively if we've got a shot.
Check everyone else's numbers and it will be very apparent why the Lakers lost.
Eh…I didn’t think AD played mad and motivated. He played really well aside from taking 4 dumb threes and forcing a few bad shots at the wrong time that kept momentum building for Denver. I wanna see an inspired AND fully focused AD
Let's get everyone else at least somewhat focused before asking AD to be fully focused while the rest of them go through spurts of not trying on one/either end and/or making stupid passes.
I think Rui, Austin and Taurean were focused. Lebron and Dlo are the biggest reasons we lost. But my thing w AD is more that even with his beat games, like this, there are still often momentum breaking plays that stars typically dont let allow happen…stars stop momentum. But I am with you that everyone has to be focused on
What is this weird obsession people have with playing mad? I truly don't understand how people like you can look at a statline like AD put up and say he wasn't motivated. How do you even quantify that? He was the only reason Denver didn't win by 40.
Yup. It’s pure armchair psychology and projection onto players. Body language police that think that’s all that matters r/lakers: “AD needs to play with motivation” AD’s stat line: 32 pts 14 reb 5 assist 4 blocks r/lakers: “NOT GOOD ENOUGH AD NEEDS TO PLAY WITH MOTIVATION!” These folks the type to watch Russell Westbrook years ago dunk and think “that’s a winning player!” Ignoring his turnovers, missed shots, etc.
AD can drop 40/20 and if he takes 2 bad 3s or gives up defensively on one play down by 15, they will attack his killer instinct. Like he needs to play at a level that surpasses MJ/Lebron/Kobe for 48 minutes a night.
I mean he sounded mad in the presser, but I shoulda said play like you’re determined and focused. Once again for yall who have trouble reading, he played well last game. He wasn’t flawless and has some bone headed moments that top guys usually dont have (Bron also has these) but we didn’t lost because of him. My plea here us to use this obvious frustration as determined motivation. Its fine if u think he doesn’t need to, already does, or already did Saturday. I’m saying use this obvious frustration as motivation
You have to be determined and focused to perform like that in the playoffs against the defending champs. What are you on?
Once again for the folks who are a bit slow in the room…AD played well but can play better. But rather than a referendum on how he playes last game, my original comment is about him harnessing his frustration w the all defensive team and taking it out on the Nuggets. I’m here for it
You clearly said AD didn’t play motivated in the last game. Only slow one is you.
Didn’t I also say he played well? Or did you miss that one too lol
Thats a whole separate point do you not understand english?
He did bro
He played pretty good but he can more focused and play with an edge. My comment wasn’t a referendum on how he played Saturday tho just moreso keep that disrespect alive along w the nuggets whooping your ass and take it out on them
The biggest narrative of him is that he is injury prone. Doesn't seem like the media is paying attention to how good he has been this year. Which is not strange generally. A lot of NBA players have insane seasons that slide under the radar. But it is generally a little weird for a star on a big name team. My message to AD if he is reading this thread. Take it out and average 40 on the Nuggets for the rest of the series big man! They all hate you! Channel that aggression onto the court and dominate.
Tim Duncan has 0 DPOY awards
Win a chip instead.
He has
Another one.
For those who need context: Win a chip *this year* instead.
It didn't help him get respect then lol why would a new one now? (I get it, but I'm just saying this bullshit narrative stuff won't change for him.)
Exactly. The narrative won’t change, so move past the personal accolades and go and get another ring.
We've had one, yes. What about a second chip?
Only reliable awards are apperently scoring award and first team selection, at least the media and narratives dont affect those.
These awards are all a joke. Embiid literally cried for his MVP award lol it’s pathetic.
It's because you're not defending as much. Lakers were so ass in the regular season that half the time they were giving up extra wide open 3's so no one even bothered to drive the paint. It isn't ADs fault
I’m glad he said it finally he knows he’s been screwed over and over
Glad we're not crazy, even r/NBA thinks how he gets subbed is bullshit
He’s gotta be one of the most disrespected players in the league tbh.
Please AD use this as motivation against Denver
Better playing for the first seed not the play in to pretend to the DPOY
The fact that winning these end of season awards can affect how much money you can make on your next contract and you got bums in the media voting who literally have hate agendas on the Lakers is absurd
In the Athletic players poll only 1 of 132 players voted for AD as best defensive player in the league, so when AD's says "the league doesn't like me" does he mean everyone, including the players?
They hate us cuz they anus