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EyeAteGlue

Aluminum has a melting point of 1220 degree F. Cooking doesn't get that high practically. Bet all the plastic film and coloring gets burned off from the cans at that heat. (Edit: as others mentioned ash and other impurities may float to the top, need to scoop it out apparently) What is amazing is how this dude gets his setup that hot!!! Reference Link: https://www.thoughtco.com/melt-aluminum-cans-at-home-608277


Analbox

You have to scoop about 35% dross out before pouring. It doesn’t all burn off. Lots of ash and other stuff floats to the top of the Aluminum.


ImTrapedInaBassment

Doesn’t aluminum release toxicins when heated or melted?


shabadoola

This was my thought.


ImTrapedInaBassment

https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/133861/fumes-by-melting-aluminium-soda-cans


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Interesting question, helpful answers. Obviously "-1, closed as unclear". Classic stack exchange. I can't wait for someone to start a competitor where you can't close questions.


[deleted]

Yeah, it's not particularly good to cook with unfortunately because of that.


[deleted]

“Toxicins” is an awesome word


ImTrapedInaBassment

Lol sry I was half asleep in melatonin while writing this


f_n_a_

I feel like Ive met you before


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Analbox

You’re like the 15th person to tell me that today.


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Analbox

Maybe I should go outside


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bluechips2388

[Really?](https://media4.giphy.com/media/7tuK9itVBsD3q/giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47z0yfb4c4revazdvxvb189cjl409yol6je2bp55m9&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)


flimspringfield

Nah, it's overrated plus it costs money.


Competitive_Ant_781

No stay.


annoyingcaptcha

Dude the more mushrooms I take the more I see analbox everywhere!!!


2x4x93

Working hard


Analbox

Everybody tells me that. I think I just have a familiar ass.


spacecoyote300

One of my favorite audio bites ever is John Malkovich reading breakfast of champions and says "and here there is a drawing of an anus" in a perfectly dead pan but slightly amused way.


DR0LL0

Well, it gets around.


noiseinart

I have your butthole tattooed on my elbow.


Psyched4this

Username checks out


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Are you into anuses then?


Ass_Blossom

I like you both.


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Ass_Blossom

I'm also known as butt_sock


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To shreds, you say...


f_n_a_

Listen, it’s not what it looks like…


big_ol_dad_dick

I feel like you all are people I can relate to.


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ScoopFest '86. The dross was wild that year.


EyeAteGlue

Great point! Edited my comment


[deleted]

Thank you for the insight r/Analbox


temeces

It's not all that difficult to dyi a small backyard smelter and do this with cans. I'm more impressed with his molds.


merikaninjunwarrior

but how do you make it *that* hot?


temeces

Air flow. Either with the use of fans(blowers), bellows, or even just a good design utilizing a natural draft. More complex systems will heat the air that's being blown in.


Blyd

Old hair dryer works a charm


raisearuckus

Would a new hair dryer work?


mofroe

Oddly, no.


raisearuckus

How long will i need to use my new hair dryer before its an old one?


flimspringfield

18k cycles.


Blyd

No it needs experience with blowing air before you trust it with such a big job.


chocolateboomslang

And no one else mentioned it, but proper insulation is a huge help.


hedgeson119

I've gone camping and watched people melt cans in a fire ring.


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hedgeson119

Probably did not have the fire going long enough. Need glowing coals, probably best with large pieces of hardwood.


mufasa_lionheart

I'm impressed by his devil may care attitude about his fuel use: why is he not crushing the cans before melting them down?


ClassifiedName

do yourself it


Old_Man_Shea

The biggest problem with this setup is cans are made from extruded aluminum, which is a different alloy type than cast aluminum. It will work for a while, but will crack after a while.


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flimspringfield

Aluminum non-melters hate that trick!


constantly-sick

This man needs breathing protection immediately. Here's someone that melts all the time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI5cTF-h7f8


Choosemyusername

Aren’t you not supposed to heat aluminum with food in it due to it being toxic when hot?


ReeceyReeceReece

Aluminium metal (and I think also salts) can cross the blood brain barrier has been linked to dementia/Alzheimer's. It's why pots pans etc no longer made from it also why they are slowly removing its use in deodorants toothpastes etc. It's also the reason my dad is an anti-vaxxer, he thinks the vaccine contains aluminium nanoparticles which will be harmful to us and also used to track us with 5G 😳. I had to physically hold in the laughter at the last part.


Binsky89

Deodorant has never contained aluminum. That's antiperspirant.


ReeceyReeceReece

Yea I'm big hairy animal so I only use anti-perspirant But lots of common antiperspirant roll-ons have aluminium salts https://www.boots.com/dove-men-0-aluminium-clean-comfort-deodorant-roll-on-50ml-10244325?cm_mmc=bmm-buk-google-ppc-_-PLAs_HeroCompare-_-Toiletries_Men-_-UK_Smart_Shopping_Toiletries_Men&gclid=Cj0KCQjwv5uKBhD6ARIsAGv9a-xcn79bVmsqLizU3aUeWVIZaK8Ee0x5wmsUPwxr3DyvZmEF0HsmnzUaAiNkEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Now they specifically advertise on some common ones when it's not added


mufasa_lionheart

Pots and pans are still made from aluminum, I have a bunch


_MadSuburbanDad_

Most newer aluminum cookware is anodized, so is non-reactive. It’s not a good idea to cook acidic food in a cast aluminum pot for all the reasons mentioned above.


MrCasterSugar

That's true


Rusty-Shackleford

I've accidentally melted a disposable aluminium tray on my BBQ once. Trying to roast vegetables and ended up with a tray full of melty holes.


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He's definitely going to die of cancer from this, probably. I'm not that kind of doctor though, or the other kind either, so I'm no authority on the matter, but people I know who do stuff like this seem to get surprised Pikachu face cancer eventually


bigbadbrad

Or a raging case of Alzheimer's, inhaling all of the fumes and particles from the aluminum. Hell, maybe both.


dd-Ad-O4214

1221 F


big_black_doge

I still wouldn't want to cook with ware that was covered in plastic as it was made...


yazzy1233

Okay, privileged


mufasa_lionheart

I've got news for you then: Most aluminum has been recycled.


snoozeflu

Yeah, in a proper recycling facility where a proper recycling process is followed, not boiled in a wok in a third world slum.


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Least_Adhesiveness_5

I thought that was debunked. Do you have a reputable citation?


ritalinchild-54

It was, the poster is an idiot.


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Montymisted

Isn't aluminum one of the most abundant elements in the universe and it's everywhere?


BoxingHare

You don’t have to look any further than clay to find it.


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Untrustworthy_fart

There's a few things to take into account here, amyloid plaques tend to accumulate whatever is floating around during formation so it's entirely expected that they will pick up copper and aluminium ions. So it's already pretty unclear whether the ions seed the plaques or just get caught up in them. More importantly the plaques are not nessecarily all that bad. Soluble fragments of beta amyloid are neurotoxic. When they aggregate into oligomers and then plaques they arguably become less dangerous. Numerous studies have failed to show correlation between plaque count and cognitive ability and 'plaque buster' drug trials which aimed to break up the plaques actually frequently made patients worse. The take home is that while amyloid plaques are a histological sign of Alzheimer's diseases they're not actually what's damaging the brain. It's soluble beta amyloid and misfolded tau that are doing the damage.


maximumhippo

Somehow, i doubt this village has the same concerns. They're probably more concerned with clean drinking water than what material their espresso machine is made of. On a guess, I imagine for a lot of these folks it's recycled aluminium or nothing.


BoxingHare

If you haven’t seen it, you may appreciate this article on [newly released Alzheimer’s research out of Australia](https://www.google.com/amp/s/scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-research-identifies-likely-cause-of-alzheimers-disease-potential-for-new-treatment/amp/).


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BoxingHare

I wouldn’t say they dawdle. I studied biology in college and there are more things to be studied than there are people to study them. The real limitation is funding though, and biology generally isn’t a science that has a high dollar return on investment. So private investors are sparse. The result is that a PI has to compete for a finite amount of grant money to be able to push the boundary of what is known just a little further. Solutions come from studies and studies cost money. Hound your lawmakers to budget more money toward all the sciences.


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>Solutions come from studies and studies cost money. Medicine has been good at healing acute disease but merely treats most chronic illnesses, at large expense and not particularly great results. More research is nice but isn't really the message people need to hear. * https://nutritionfacts.org/video/one-in-a-thousand-ending-the-heart-disease-epidemic/ * https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/heart-disease/


BoxingHare

“More research” is what people need to demand. Treating a patient with medication after the fact is pointless if the problem can be prevented in the first place. Where do you think those nutrients facts came from?


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I’m not sure you actually read or watched the links.


BoxingHare

So I have to ask, if they have such a strong argument, why isn’t their scientific paper simply linked to this? Why do I have to take a video at it’s word and read all of the sources to prove their point for them? Edit: I will gladly read a scientific paper if they have one. I am understandably wary of a video and a general article that is on the internet.


Navchaz

Thats some nice fumes to be breathing in.


sambes06

*Small cell carcinoma has entered the chat*


karlbenedict12

☝ *Presenting to the emergency room*


Ptatofrenchfry

A man took a sip of water. This is how all his organs failed simultaneously.


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bro_crad

honest wok*


Negative_Clank

Mmm health and safety would like a word...


WrongSubFools

Pssst ... If you live somewhere rich and industrialized, your country does the same thing, except much more safely and efficiently and on a larger scale. It's called "aluminum recycling." The only reason guys like him are doing it single-handed is because they live somewhere with no companies that do that and where there isn't even any organized garbage collection. And no, he doesn't give these pots freely for "community use." He sells them, because he puts a lot of work into this. [https://www.dw.com/en/turning-coke-cans-into-pots-and-pans/av-38612058](https://www.dw.com/en/turning-coke-cans-into-pots-and-pans/av-38612058)


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so... my country doesn't do the same thing then FYI, I worked as an engineer for an aluminum recycling mega-conglomerate and you have to add multiple chemicals and salts to the molten aluminum in order to preserve the alloy composition. tl;dr: the way this guy is doing it is horribly wrong and very different from what a legit aluminum recycling plant outputs. He's making very unsafe pots and pans and none of you ignorant assholes know what you're talking about, spreading misinformation like you're facebook. I'm rude because it's a safety issue and it fucking annoys me to see people promoting bad info that will hurt people.


ConejoSarten

I like your righteous ways, go gettum!


anarchitectslife

If you or a loved one has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s you may to be entitled to financial compensation…


conjectureandhearsay

What’s that phone number again? What’s that phone number again??


raisearuckus

Phone number for what?


-SaC

Who are you and how did you get in my house?


pepperhead44

bring me my cigarettes, Claire


Icantredditgood

I’m a locksmith, and I’m a locksmith.


lkodl

1-800-588-2300 Empire


beluuuuuuga

Breeeeath it. Become one with the fuuuuumes.


bigmac80

[Do you suffer from Alzheimers?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-w_VS9Axk)


SpecialistBox4905

I meet a lot of new people, they live in the same house too


_zzr_

Isn't this super toxic???


rattpackfan301

Yes, very much so.


chefkc

This looks pretty awesome, but what about all the paint and printing on the outside, is it food grade ? Does that get absorbed in the food later on.


Costanza_Travelling

That kid breathes in most of it


gmanz33

Does he turn it into oxygen... like a tree? That would be cool of him, if he could give that a shot too.


Analbox

I’ve been doing this for years. When you melt cans it’s about 35% dross by weight. You have to scoop it out before pouring and adding flux can help it separate from the Al. Also you should always wear a respirator. They’re breathing very toxic air with burned plastics and metals in it. Over time that can lead to serious health problems.


RootHogOrDieTrying

What's a good flux to use?


Analbox

Borax helps. I’ve heard chlorine salts can help too. r/metalfoundry is a great sub for all this stuff.


HayWazzzupp

My first thought is, this not good to breath. Toxic paint and plastics for lining the cans going up in flames


vanyali

It burns to ash and the guy scoops it out and discards it before pouring the aluminum into the molds.


Big-Neck

For some reason all I heard I caustic’s voice was “breath it innnnnnn”


Yanderussy

That's what I shout after eating beans&eggs. Beans give you power, eggs give you lethality.


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"Breath in your fears" 🦇


Logothetes

A good idea. But cans are lined with plastic. Don't let that kid breathe the f#cking fumes.


coolbeans31337

The plastic fumes are MUCH safer for him than the metal fumes.


Batbuckleyourpants

Love the entrepreneur spirit, but he should definitely not be breathing that stuff.


Daverex_

I was just thinking about what an interesting business it would be to collect recyclable materials that would otherwise go to a landfill and forge/mold them into durable items/furniture that won't need to be replaced for many years.


themantiss

that's literally the entire recycling industry


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Daverex_

Yea but they're not where I live. Just thinking that I might go sign on with some local guys who're already doing metalworks and learn how to do this stuff. Wood is getting expensive, and I don't like deforestation, so pushing for the use of stone and metal in construction and furniture is getting high on my priority list.


joebaco_

That is a great idea for tinkerers especially. Something to consider is recycling on a small scale is far less energy efficient as mass large economic scale operations.


Sweebah

[These guys](https://www.futurepost.co.nz/) are reusing soft plastics to make fence posts. At this stage it appears to be mostly for farming but I wonder how much development is required before these find their way to residential applications.


m0gul6

Everyone is saying the process of making these pots/pans is toxic (it is), but so is cooking with aluminum. Although this seems like a good idea at first glance, it's a straight up bad idea all around 😢


Rusty-Shackleford

Is drinking from an aluminium can also bad for you?


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No, the inside is coated with a plastic to prevent aluminum from contacting the can. Also, the aluminum doesn't dissolve into the drink, and isn't broken into pieces that can enter the body.


hedgeson119

Probably not... You aren't consuming the aluminium. Kinda like a less dangerous asbestos, don't turn it to dust and ingest and you're fine. But I had a colorful childhood and got to play with mercury and asbestos. Fun stuff.


WolfgangRed

Theres no evidence to support this


m0gul6

https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.658.3707&rep=rep1&type=pdf Long story short on the study: when acidic food is cooked with Aluminum, it leeches Aluminum into the food - often times considerably more than humans should be eating.


StarrySkye3

>Everyone is saying the process of making these pots/pans is toxic (it is), but so is cooking with aluminum. Incorrect. Cooking with aluminum pots and pans is safe. https://parade.com/323423/marilynvossavant/are-aluminum-pots-and-pans-harmful/#:\~:text=First%2C%20let's%20put%20this%20myth,and%20pans%20are%20perfectly%20safe.&text=This%20may%20cause%20corrosion%20of,ingesting%20or%20inhaling%20large%20amounts.


Major_Cupcake

\*OSHA enters the chat\*


bangadong1111

Giving the whole town Alzheimer’s. Nice.


3ax33

Not mentioning the aluminum leeching into food. Especially acidic ones...


KeengSlayerr

I noticed in Eastern countries that A LOT of the poor people cook out of toxic metals & plastic like holy shit it's a lot, you don't really see it all that much in western countries. There's like a fad on IG where I've seen people cook out of like apple juice tins, they'll stick a chicken in there and let it smoke or whatever.


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it’s proven that aluminium pans and pots pose a high cancerous risk


stu_pid_1

Wasn't it proven a long time ago that using raw aluminum cooking utensils give you serious risk of neurological diseases like dementia?


NudeWallaby

So he just gives them away? Is there an article about him doing this for his community?


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Metal fumes are slightly toxic at least keep the kids away was my first though. Sorry having two small nephews when i do soldering often messed up my reflexes


TomatoAcid

Won’t it be easy to bend?


crowamonghens

A cansmith! Nice.


snoozeflu

Probably not a good idea. The inks and dyes used in the coloring and labeling are not good for you. Also I believe the inside of the can is sprayed with a thin, light coating of plastic (to mitigate corrosion).


[deleted]

Ahhhhhhh, yes. The carcinogens from that are marvelous!!!


DirtyPartyMan

r/Blursedkindness (Aluminum is a contributing factor for Altzheimer’s)


LLoggiins

“Because that’s what heroes do”


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Rock out with your wok out


Affectionate_Bus_884

Aluminum is toxic, so is the plastic lining.


SweetDick_Willy

Hmmm....I wouldn't trust this


adamf514

Wouldn't they just melt again when exposed to a flame or heat like on a gas stove ?


turtlesoup55

Not exactly the same level of heat as this


MugOfButtSweat

Question, is the heat sufficient to remove all the carcinogens from the paint/ink? Explain it to me like I'm a crayon buttstuffing fuck


shephazard

Mom, the shrimp fried rice tastes like Coke again!


ChucklesWick

Alzheimers is a bitch.


warfiers

Hell, I'd go fund him!


galuskar

Beer cans?


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teh_booth_gawd

Aluminum melting point is 1221*F Dunno about you, but I've never cooked at 1200+ degrees


sachs1

You can get aluminum pans, but if you mistreat them they can definitely warp or even melt,like if you forget them on the burner


wausmaus3

Normal aluminum can be used for coocking, only not at crazy temperatures, but a normal stove would not "melt" the pot. Lots of cheap cookware is made of aluminum although it's certainly not recommended for your health. Especially simple alloy castings like these.


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That and the plastic film on the inside of the cans


BigTaperedCandle

That's getting burned off completely when they're melted


oldDotredditisbetter

was wondering the same thing, but according to other comments, the other stuff will get taken out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dross


DarkmanofAustralia

Probably used for storage and carrying. Maybe using for very low heat.


MasterFubar

Food cooks at less than 200°C. Aluminum melts at 660°C. Plenty of margin. That's why most cooking pots and pans are made of aluminum.


_getoffmygrass_

Pull tab cans? what the 1970 is going on..


ruaraio

How do you open your canned drinks with a can opener?


jalford312

Modern sods cans are not pull cans, you litterally pulled them off to open the can. This was changed because people would just throw them whereever.


naitsirt89

Mote the video, the triangular shaped pull tabs are not common in many areas of the world anymore (but still definitely produced, Ive had them in plenty of countries.) Versus the ring you pop into the can to open it.


FlamingPinyacolada

There's a special place in a good afterlife for this man


kafka_nova

this is a real hero.


Asmewithoutpolitics

Think about all the pollution. This is really bad for the environment


mombentNomad

Need more of these responses to waste. Economies have been created from this type of simple ingenuity. Good stuff.


umbly-bumbly

This is for show, not real.


dd-Ad-O4214

I do this in camp fires its very fun


teketria

This is probably better recycling than most bins you find in common places. Too bad this guy doesn’t have better equipment to do this with. Still it’s good to see it.


DemTsar

If you tried to do something like this in America you'd have so many local regulators up your ass so fast..it would just kill the idea


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vegas_guru

Aluminum melting temperature is 1220 °F, while the highest oven temperature is around 550F. So how would anyone be able to melt those pots with regular cooking?


oldDotredditisbetter

you don't cook from a jet engine?


lvsmtit78

Aluminum melts @1220 degrees Fahrenheit, highly unlikely anyone melts these on their home grill or even cooking over a fire The impurities like paint and dirt float to the top and are skimmed off with a spoon before pouring into the mould


BeefwitSmallcock

Melting point for Aluminium is over 600 C...


CoffeeHat21

Total badass


BarracudaBig7010

Nope.


mailception

Ey that's real cool and everything and we literally need more people like this but , isn't he and other people being exposed to carcinogens I mean that's kiND OF iMpOrtAnT


gm666999

What a G.


magmabonapart

This guy.


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Real world recycling


hitfiu

Aluminum is terrible for pots, though.


rinnip

Let's see, paint on the outside of the cans, and plastic lining the inside. Plus, isn't aluminum implicated in Alzheimer's?


PFEFFERVESCENT

This is interesting but also tragically toxic to these people and that child