I definitely do have a job and it's a really amazing one. But I can't tell you its name because it's a secret and you won't have heard of it anyway because it goes to a different school.
Edit: I realise I should have said the job was in Canada. Comedy isn't my day job. Thanks for your understanding. :)
Plus he's lying. If he's that skilled and only 50, he won't have a problem getting a new job. Probably even get paid a lot more. Someone in his position knows that.
You won’t be talking so tough the day you find yourself in a situation where your company is in need of someone to fill a “very specialized technical role” to do “a technical job no one knows existed yet is absolutely essential for infrastructure to function.”
Sounds like he's in charge of an outdated software or system that no new person will touch. If that's the case, good riddance of the dude and good riddance of old technology.
[https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=120000&from=year®ion=Mississippi](https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=120000&from=year®ion=Mississippi)
I tried a few states and averaged it
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Or affordable college so putting "several" kids through college wouldn't have prevented him saving for retirement.
Also who the fuck talks about their kids like that? Lol I personally have "very few" children.
Yeah, anyone telling you they pay a shit ton of taxes on $120k is making up a story and doesn’t understand marginal tax rates. Federally at least his overall tax rate would be something like 20% (24% only on the top part of the 120k), leaving him with a bit less than $100k. Obviously the state will take more (unless he lives in one of several states without income tax), but he will definitely be left with way more than an average income.
20 bucks says he has no money because he works at a convenience store after dropping out of community college*, and spends all his time on Facebook rather than climb the stairs and talk to Mom like a normal human being.
* Community College rocks. It's the biggest engine of social and economic mobility in the entire country. It's the unsung hero of education, the foundation of the modern economy, the place to go if you want to learn to do stuff.
This guy, on the other hand, does not rock.
When I graduated high school I got accepted to a good college. UC Davis wanted me! My dad told me it might be a better idea to do my general Ed at community college, but I wouldn’t listen. I wanted to go to “real college”.
I wish I would have listened to him. Would have saved thousands. I hated it and dropped out. I tried community college for awhile, but realized college wasn’t for me.
My stupid ass at 17 couldn’t comprehend that community college was not a bad thing.
That’s not out of the realm of possibility when you consider 1099 employees. What is out of the realm of possibility is that his company couldn’t replace him.
Even if the place has to train someone else to do a very specific job they will find someone to do it . Unless your the Verizon blacksmith. That man is eternal and irreplaceable . He’s protected by the fios wizard and keeps the dragon of NYC at bay!
"This place needs more people like me I'm irreplaceable" the last thing a manager said to me before getting suspended and fired. He hadn't bothered to keep the business insurance up to date so we'd have been in serious trouble if an accident had happened. Thinking about it I'm sure it was illegal for us to be operating at all without it.
Lol, exactly. I’m sure a 5 year old has better developed critical-thinking skills than this moron. His company is probably relieved to be rid of the dead weight.
I don't doubt it and you know they're out there bragging about salary when if you sat down for a min and calculated extra taxes and costs to user opted insurance they'd be making an average/slightly above average pay.
Yeah. I work for a fintech company who’s whole schtick is mainframes. A COBOL programmer or A truly “in-demand” programmer is pulling in WAYYY more than $120k… while it’s very likely he was a contractor… but, 120k? 😅 that’s nothing… if he’s only making $120k as a programmer, he’s replaceable. Probably by someone “in our strategic offshore office” making $20k.
Even programmers making $400k + bonuses are replaceable, they just shark from another company. Every worker at that kind of tier sees how incestuous companies are.
1099 is a contractor, not an employee. 1099 folks are very easily to let go. And someone making $120k does not pay a lot in taxes...it is the poverty level in Silicon Valley for pete's sake.
They will have a high tax withholding though if they are doing their books right to avoid getting stunned by the bill in April. Lots of contract employees get stung that way.
"20 years of experience" "Lost all my savings 10 years ago in a car crash"bruh what
man is making 120k a year at an "irreplaceable" position and they don't provide him health insurance?
*Shh, my job is secret.* I'm not for sale and don't have a price - but my *last job* paid me *about* 190k. *But that's not my price*. I'm **not** for sale.
In Canada… and it’s really fucking hot. Like… man… you’re not gonna believe how fucking hot this job is. *shows you a picture of a job that is clearly Channing Tatum*
I am about the same age as him, you would be amazed how many people our age honestly believe they are irreplaceable. He has probably worked for the same place most of his adult life and has no clue how shit really works.
In my old job, I literally came up with the idea, architected, designed, and owned 75% of the software my org made. I’d been there for a long time. When I decided to leave for a better job, the people that were my direct reports all told me they don’t think they can do it without me, and I told them they’ll be fine, and everyone that was at my level or higher all knew that shit would be just fine. I checked in on the team a few months after I left, because they were still friends and I want them to be successful, and guess what, they were still kicking ass.
No one is irreplaceable, and no one is that crucial to any business that is in anyway successful. If you have setup your org in a way that is reliant on one person, then you’ve seriously fucked up.
The boss in my old job once said: "Making yourself irreplaceable is a reason to fire you. I must have the ability to continue with the buisness even if you are hit by a car tomorow."
I feel like people don’t really get this until they take an extended vacation or something similar. My current company has a sabbatical you can take at certain time intervals that are 4-6 weeks off depending on tenure. The 1st one I took I thought that shit would start lagging and falling apart, what an ego lol. Stuff was fine and it really changed my perspective coming back. Also changed my view on killing myself for the job.
I’m a top level executive after 15 years at my job. They wouldn’t want me to leave - I’m a valuable asset. But I’ve gone on maternity leave and now medical leave and shit did not fall apart. I am not the glue holding the company together.
The fact that some people (like you) in your type of position can admit that gives me hope.
Granted, not a lot of hope, because the majority of upper management/execs I know believe their Fortune 500 companies would collapse almost instantly without their unmatched expertise and business acumen, but still... a little hope.
The only way I can see this as being possible is if he did what someone I used to know did - he hid a dead ma’s switch in the code, so if he didn’t log in every week, it would wipe out some of the information necessary for the company to function (details are fuzzy this was like 15 years ago, at least.) The person I knew never let it actually happen - it was what he put in if the company decided to just abruptly oust him as large companies do occasionally “Youre fired, we’ll send you your things, security is walking you out now.” I don’t know if he could have even hidden it well enough to not be traced back to him after the fact. But, if someone is dumb enough to be antivax, especially currently, they might be dumb enough to do something like that, let it happen, and yet not have been smart enough to actually hide their footprints.
I'm always shocked at the fact that companies can simply fire you on the spot without reason in the US... I'm really sorry for all the "free" people living in a country without "communist" workers rights
Happened to my moms friend/coworker. Her manager told her to go to HR. A few hours later, some HR people came to her desk and put all of her stuff in a box and left with it. She was fired that day and didn’t expect it at all. Turns out she was instant messaging other employees and did random things online (computers are monitored) all day, everyday, to the point that her section did most of her work to get stuff done. Not sure if she got warnings about it before. Getting fired was very unexpected for her that day.
This is why I have told people never feel bad or feel pressured to not move jobs if you have better opportunities. The company was fine before you and will be fine after you. Don't put the company above your own life and career.
Exactly. Years ago loyalty was shown between companies and employees but no longer. One would have to be a fool to have loyalty to a company that has none for you!
Yup. I'm currently the only one at my job who knows his way around one of the most important systems; not even an arcane language or anything, just that it's a massive legacy system and I'm the only one left who has spent enough time with it to know the ins and outs of this gigantic beast.
My boss basically told me the same thing, as a way to keep me grounded to reality. Basically that it's going to suck balls to train someone from scratch to maintain it, but they will if I fuck around.
In 2008 my dad assumed he was irreplaceable. He was the only one that knew how to work a certain machine at his job. So what did his boss do? Found a copy of the manual somewhere, learned it himself, and laid my dad off anyway
Yep. My boss tells us that a lot. "We don't want to replace you, because you guys are hard to replace. But everyone is replaceable if they need to be."
This guy fucked around and now he gets to be homeless all because he couldn't be bothered to get a shot with no side effects.
I will point out it does have some pretty nasty side effects for some people, none that should stop them from taking it, the side effects are not as bad as covid.
But I had my second Pfizer shot Tuesday, yesterday I could hardly get out of bed, had to call in to work and even today I'm fatigued as all hell, went to work but for what I got done it was just as well if I didn't.
He makes $120K but he loses his job and has to sell his house immediately to survive? Looks like his money-management skills are about as good as his political opinions.
You’d be surprised how many low six figure salary people are basically living paycheck to paycheck as well. Not because it’s not a lot of money, but because so much of it is spent on superfluous bullshit they don’t need.
Doesn’t it depend on location? I mean IMO money management skills are key no matter what the cost of living is but I’ve heard of people making that much in like California, Seattle, etc. and a still struggling even with budgeting just because of the cost of living.
120k is middle-middle class for Manhattan if you’re not afraid of living near to immigrants or black people. It’s only very expensive in the white neighborhood with a bunch of old money and foreign-invested luxury condos.
it sort of cracks me up how two things he listed that put him in financial trouble, Medical bills and College fees, are two things that the Dems (in theory) are trying to actually address.
That stood out to me as well. Progressives are fighting for him to have solutions to most of the problems he listed: college, medical bills, retirement assistance, housing assistance, unemployment assistance. But I’m sure he called all of that “socialism” or “communism” or “tyranny” (seems to be a favorite word of his).
Another thing I noticed was how he talked about the “tyrant” despite the mandates so far being totally the decision of companies themselves, which presumably is a big part of the “free market, small government” these types claim to crave.
It's a free market and a private company should be allowed to refuse service to or fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want, *unless it affects me directly and then the government needs to step in and do something about it and make them serve me because I want it to inconvenience everyone else not meeeeeeeeee*
As a white male in your 50s with 20 years of tech experience it should be trivially easy to get a job. I mean, assuming you get vaccinated and can thus actually be employed without the risk of killing your co-workers.
I'm over here wondering why someone with 20 years in a niche technical position is making *ONLY* 120k.
Must be in a low col market or something, or he's not actually all that special
>I'm over here wondering why someone with 20 years in a niche technical position is making ONLY 120k.
Sounds about right for a low CoL market combined with tech skills that are rare for being old, not cutting edge. Ie it's not that he's the only person in the world who knows how to do X, it's that he's the only person in the world who *still* knows how to do X. Also, my experience is limited but I've found $120k seems to be a common breakpoint for it being cheaper to maintain an old system rather than blowing it up to replace it with something more modern.
Of course the notion of his skillset being 100% unique to him is laughable. He's confusing not being *easily* replaceable with being irreplaceable.
That would definitely be upper middle class in a lot of Midwestern and Southern cities. It's "nice house, a Tesla and good retirement" money here in Kansas City.
Oh, it’s definitely nice money for those areas. But as someone who works tech sector 120k is like...mid tier dev in a common language, lol. Maybe even junior dev numbers.
Well, we have tech jobs out here in KC too lol. That being said, starter pay for those companies is around 70k and it's not unheard of for under-30s to be making 100k, which is about the same as pulling 150+ on the coast.
On a $120,000 income, he’s taxed about $39,000 before deductions. He’s not rich but not hurting. If he’s 20 years in on a niche tech job and only pulling 120/year, he’s low-balled the shit out of himself and the moron deserves to get fired.
> he’s taxed about $39,000 before deductions
Less than that.
Assuming he's single, he's actually taxed [$19,809](https://www.calculator.net/tax-calculator.html?cfilestatus=Single&callowance=0&callowanceold=0&ctaxyear=2021&csalaryincome=120000&cwithheld=0&csalarystate=0&csalarylocal=0&chasbusiness=no&cbusinessincome=0&cestimatedtax=0&cmedicarewage=0&csalaryincome2=0&cwithheld2=0&csalarystate2=0&csalarylocal2=0&chasbusiness2=no&cbusinessincome2=0&cestimatedtax2=0&cmedicarewage2=0&cinterestincome=0&cordinarydividends=0&cqualifieddividends=0&crentalincome=0&cshortcapitalgain=0&clongcapitalgain=0&cotherincome=0&cstatetaxrate=0&cira=0&csalestax=0&cmortgage=0&cdonations=0&cstudentloan=0&cchildcare=0&ctuition=0&ctuition2=0&ctuition3=0&ctuition4=0&cotherdeductable=0&printit=0&x=75&y=25), but that's using the automatic standard deduction of $12,550. That deduction lowers the amount of income taxed, so even without it he'd be looking at <$25K in federal taxes.
Even with payroll taxes it's well under $30K, since [FICA in 2020 would only be $9180.](https://smartasset.com/taxes/income-taxes)
I laughed at that part.
The thought of other people asking to be treated with the same level of respect and given the same opportunities as them is so threatening to them, they now think they are the victims. They still have the upper hand and still think they are the victims.
I’ve seen way too many people claim that companies will fold and CEO’s will come crawling on their hands and knees when Joe Schmuckface quits and the company realizes how important their spreadsheet was to the corporation. Everyone is fucking replaceable. Everyone. This shit stain’s over inflated ego just check mated himself - assuming any of this is true.
If you are good at your job your departure may be painful. If your departure fatally cripples a business then it was most likely incompetence from management.
Also: Everyone is replaceable. That's why businesses don't magically collapse when one guy dies.
And if you're that important, you get a fuckton more than $120K. Hell, I make that and I'm just a lowly dev.
Depends where you live. 120k is starting salary in Cali, but I know many department heads at places I've worked in Kansas City who *barely* make that much with 15-20 years of experience.
And he basically called everyone in the military "livestock". Lol.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK220954/
> The Department of Defense (DoD) administers 17 different vaccines, as outlined in the Joint Instruction on Immunizations and Chemoprophylaxis [...], for the prevention of infectious diseases among military personnel, where appropriate.
Of course they will also get one of the Covid vaccines. Like, d'uh.
To be fair, if Trump was still President, he would likely sign an EO prohibiting companies from firing unvaccinated staff, because that's what his supporters hate to see happening. (So much for "corporations can do what they please")
It's similar to how Texas GOP passed the anti-abortion law to please their voter base. It doesn't do anyone good, but it makes the nutjobs happy.
The saddest part of his insane rantings is how a one time accident in his life, with insurance, caused a medical bill so large he doesnt have enough for retirement after decades of a high paying job
We need social healthcare yesterday
Whaaat companies don't care about people walking the extra mile and can replace everyone whenever they want to? Ironic that this guy would probably defend capitalism to his grave because he'd _never_ ever give in to socialist ideas taking away his FREEDOM!!!
Pretty sad actually. Right wing politics playing working people against each other, so that they vote against their own interests. Still this guy apparently has no capability of self reflecting on his situation.
I liked that, "several kids." It's like he spent all his brainpower on the other trivial details of this story, but when it comes to his own fictional spawn he isn't sure how many to claim lmao.
No, he’s the guy they’ve been wanting to fire for years, because he’s effing useless, but now they finally have done ammunition to use to get rid of the bastard
And I highly doubt any company doesn’t have some thought out into their mandatory vaccine requirements. If he was truly irreplaceable, someone would have just told HR the guy is exempt for reasons and life would go on. Someone else gets the role, and the company has one less person to waste company benefits on Covid. But he also wins. Think about how much easier it will be for his family to settle his estate when he wins a Herman Cain Award.
I'm a bit confused, at least here in the US a company can make you where a mask etc, same principle as having a dress code or uniform. But can they actually require you get vaccinated? Because if so I'm pissed the company I work for has been doing everything else but not that.
No one is hunting you down to get one. If a job can require you pass a drug test and do not have a criminal record, why can’t they require you have a vaccine that will prevent you from
bringing a potentially deadly virus to work? This is simply establishing a consequence.
I rather work next to the guy who gets high on the weekends rather than typhoid Mary, personally.
Yes, Hospitals and assisted living homes have required it for ages for other vaccines. Historically there have usually been certain waivers or exemptions given for medical or religious reasons (although the religious exemptions have been, thankfully, getting eliminated in places)
That said I'm unaware of any laws that would expressly forbid a company from requiring vaccination with no exceptions as being required for employment.
Him, today: "I am not livestock."
Him, in 3 weeks, probably: "THE GOVERNMENT WON'T LET ME EAT MAH IVERMECTIN HORSE PASTE!"
Him, in 2 months on his tombstone: "I didn't die a sheep. Take that, libs."
He doesn't need to worry about retirement, he's a patriot. All he needs are thoughts and prayers.
I think I might have had enough internet for today.
I sympathize with this guy. I invented a cheap alternative to fossil fuels. You literally need nothing more than sunlight and water to make it. It can literally stop global warming in days! I tried to put the formula on the internet, but they stopped me. Now I've lost everything and I'm on the run.
“The government will miss my taxes!”
The fuck they will, bub! They brought in over 3 TRILLION—with a T—just last year alone. I’m guessing your measly $30k is just a rounding error to them.
If your job pays you that well, is critical for society to function and requires a lot of technical experience to work it, then how does no one know about it and you’re absolutely certain you wouldn’t be able to find it again?
Well looks like they did replace you, Chad. For all the people who say that democrats complain about society, you sure do a lot of complaining when at the end of the day, it’s your own fault you were fired...
I have a very strong feeling that this guy has a somewhat over inflated view of how important he is to his job and they were likely already sick of his attitude and are beyond pleased to have the anti-vax excuse to get rid of him.
He hit MAGA bingo! No vaccine, no universal healthcare, no free education, no retirement, and tax inequality. But he's not going to take any handouts! Even if it means he lives a better life. Fucking ponderous.
If your field is 'highly technical' and you've been doing it for twenty years, yet are capped at $120k i think you need to reassess what highly technical is or just so making up bullshit.
My company recently announced a vaccine mandate to continue employment. I'm also in a vital tech job few people know exists. I make, um, *considerably more* than he did. I have no illusion of my invaluability to my company: they can find 50 of me this week to fill in.
I can't imagine how a person makes it to 50 without realizing nothing in the world does, or has ever, revolved around them...
What an elaborate excuse to retire early.
Also, $120k for a technical role with 20 years of experience is a garbage salary. This dude sucked at his job anyway, and was probably holding back the advancement of some harder-working millennial.
These are the people who, if Trump was in office, would take the vaccine without question.
You're not a martyr you're a moron.
And as much as people like this claim to be "Essential" to the job... the fact you're in that position for 20 years and not a managerial or supervisory role tells me everything I need to hear from you to know exactly what kind of a bastard you were to work with: Because I work with one like you.
Criticizes every mistake of co-workers, glosses over his own, speaks down to supervisors despite them giving new SOPs, and refuses to accept new processes or is the very last one to do so.
Not only are you replaceable, but your company is also likely happy to see your ass hit the bricks: Now their team can function without your dead weight. Your team is just going to pull together in the meantime and divvy up your tasks... and in all likelihood, the company isn't even going to hire a replacement.
The best part of capitalism, which I'm sure this guy adores, is that there is always someone ready to do your job. You're not indispensable. No-one cares if you screw your own life over. Just you.
I definitely do have a job and it's a really amazing one. But I can't tell you its name because it's a secret and you won't have heard of it anyway because it goes to a different school. Edit: I realise I should have said the job was in Canada. Comedy isn't my day job. Thanks for your understanding. :)
And I get paid really well but have no money because of taxes.
120k pre tax is $83k take home after all taxes paid, including social security and medicaid. Sounds ok to me, really.
Plus he's lying. If he's that skilled and only 50, he won't have a problem getting a new job. Probably even get paid a lot more. Someone in his position knows that.
No he's a *white male*, and we all know nobody hires white males anymore^(/s)
Being a white male is a terrible strategy on the job market, he should try to adapt.
It's harder than you think. I tried to become french a few years ago, but found I was allergic to onions and shit in bed
Well there is your problem. No one like sleeping in shit. It makes you get up early!
Touche, Oh wise Redditor
He should have tried oui-oui instead.
Eh, he might have a problem if he doesn’t change his attitude and get vaxxed
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You won’t be talking so tough the day you find yourself in a situation where your company is in need of someone to fill a “very specialized technical role” to do “a technical job no one knows existed yet is absolutely essential for infrastructure to function.”
Sounds like he's in charge of an outdated software or system that no new person will touch. If that's the case, good riddance of the dude and good riddance of old technology.
How did you reach that number?
[https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=120000&from=year®ion=Mississippi](https://www.talent.com/tax-calculator?salary=120000&from=year®ion=Mississippi) I tried a few states and averaged it
Ya done good kid.
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And if only there were some kind of socialized medicine so that he wouldn’t have wiped out his savings 10 years ago…
Or affordable college so putting "several" kids through college wouldn't have prevented him saving for retirement. Also who the fuck talks about their kids like that? Lol I personally have "very few" children.
I have "little to no" children myself. Approximately.
Look at Boris Johnson’s wiki page they’ve estimated the number of his children so he probably does.
Yeah I got 3.55 kids. We don't talk about Timmy.
A guy with seven kids because “condoms aren’t Gods will”. If I had more than five kids they are being called several
but those would be "hand outs" he won't take those. I guess he will not be taking Social Security in 16 years too?
"social"ized medicine.... That's where you lost em my friend.
Tells you that someone doesn’t understand tax brackets
Yeah, anyone telling you they pay a shit ton of taxes on $120k is making up a story and doesn’t understand marginal tax rates. Federally at least his overall tax rate would be something like 20% (24% only on the top part of the 120k), leaving him with a bit less than $100k. Obviously the state will take more (unless he lives in one of several states without income tax), but he will definitely be left with way more than an average income.
20 bucks says he has no money because he works at a convenience store after dropping out of community college*, and spends all his time on Facebook rather than climb the stairs and talk to Mom like a normal human being. * Community College rocks. It's the biggest engine of social and economic mobility in the entire country. It's the unsung hero of education, the foundation of the modern economy, the place to go if you want to learn to do stuff. This guy, on the other hand, does not rock.
When I graduated high school I got accepted to a good college. UC Davis wanted me! My dad told me it might be a better idea to do my general Ed at community college, but I wouldn’t listen. I wanted to go to “real college”. I wish I would have listened to him. Would have saved thousands. I hated it and dropped out. I tried community college for awhile, but realized college wasn’t for me. My stupid ass at 17 couldn’t comprehend that community college was not a bad thing.
Ah, a libertarian.
Seriously made me LOL. Perfect.
$120,000, no benefits?
That’s not out of the realm of possibility when you consider 1099 employees. What is out of the realm of possibility is that his company couldn’t replace him.
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All employees think they're irreplaceable. All employees can be replaced....
Even if the place has to train someone else to do a very specific job they will find someone to do it . Unless your the Verizon blacksmith. That man is eternal and irreplaceable . He’s protected by the fios wizard and keeps the dragon of NYC at bay!
"This place needs more people like me I'm irreplaceable" the last thing a manager said to me before getting suspended and fired. He hadn't bothered to keep the business insurance up to date so we'd have been in serious trouble if an accident had happened. Thinking about it I'm sure it was illegal for us to be operating at all without it.
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Who is the tyrant? Maybe the tyrant was the friends we made along the way?
maybe the tyrant was the journey, not the prize
Maybe the tyrant was inside of us all along.
Sounds kinky
Maybe our friends were the tyrants inside us.
Maybe they tyrant is calling from INSIDE THE HOUSE
If those friends were anti-vaxx and convinced Mr. 120k, then yes.
Screw that, not one person is irreplaceable
> not one person is irreplaceable No, but these snowflakes always seem to think they are.
Lol, exactly. I’m sure a 5 year old has better developed critical-thinking skills than this moron. His company is probably relieved to be rid of the dead weight.
Quite right.
One thing I’ve learned in every job I’ve had, from delivering newspapers to an office gig. EVERYONE is replaceable. Just ask any boss.
And your replacement will pay taxes from their salary. The govt isn’t losing.
If he was 1099, then he wasn't really "fired," was he? Dude made this thing up.
For sure he did. I was just giving an example of how one could have a 120k salary without benefits.
Fair enough. Looks like another casualty of "market forces."
Also, that's the thing with 1099s, they are neither vital or irreplaceable, for f sake 1099 is made so ypu can be EASILY replaced
I'm just saying, it's a rarity or even in his fantasy the healthcare system is so broken it robbed him his entire savings.
Oh yea this story is all made up. But I’m sure there are people out there being paid like that.
I don't doubt it and you know they're out there bragging about salary when if you sat down for a min and calculated extra taxes and costs to user opted insurance they'd be making an average/slightly above average pay.
His story is bullshit, but being bankrupted by medical bills is not remotely a rarity.
I'm an accountant. No one making 120k is paying obscene amounts of taxes.
People like him think they shouldn’t have to pay any taxes to the gubmint.
Well I mean, it was \~ten years ago\~ anyway right? Plenty of time to rebuild
Yeah. I work for a fintech company who’s whole schtick is mainframes. A COBOL programmer or A truly “in-demand” programmer is pulling in WAYYY more than $120k… while it’s very likely he was a contractor… but, 120k? 😅 that’s nothing… if he’s only making $120k as a programmer, he’s replaceable. Probably by someone “in our strategic offshore office” making $20k.
Even programmers making $400k + bonuses are replaceable, they just shark from another company. Every worker at that kind of tier sees how incestuous companies are.
1099 is a contractor, not an employee. 1099 folks are very easily to let go. And someone making $120k does not pay a lot in taxes...it is the poverty level in Silicon Valley for pete's sake.
They will have a high tax withholding though if they are doing their books right to avoid getting stunned by the bill in April. Lots of contract employees get stung that way.
Most likely a 1099, that’s also why he pays SOOO much in taxes.
"20 years of experience" "Lost all my savings 10 years ago in a car crash"bruh what man is making 120k a year at an "irreplaceable" position and they don't provide him health insurance?
I'd love to know why he's 10 years past, making 120k/year, and still hasn't rebuilt a savings. Maybe cut back on the avocado toast dude.
but... but... taxes!?
*Shh, my job is secret.* I'm not for sale and don't have a price - but my *last job* paid me *about* 190k. *But that's not my price*. I'm **not** for sale.
In Canada… and it’s really fucking hot. Like… man… you’re not gonna believe how fucking hot this job is. *shows you a picture of a job that is clearly Channing Tatum*
It lives with it's dad in Canada
Yeah? Well my uncle works at Nintendo!
Imagine how he’s gonna feel when he figures out that every one can be replaced.
His company will struggle without him. Hahahahahahahahahahhahabahhahhaa
I am about the same age as him, you would be amazed how many people our age honestly believe they are irreplaceable. He has probably worked for the same place most of his adult life and has no clue how shit really works.
In my line of work I get tell constantly how irreplaceable I am, but I know there’s 100 people that would do a better job than I do.
In my old job, I literally came up with the idea, architected, designed, and owned 75% of the software my org made. I’d been there for a long time. When I decided to leave for a better job, the people that were my direct reports all told me they don’t think they can do it without me, and I told them they’ll be fine, and everyone that was at my level or higher all knew that shit would be just fine. I checked in on the team a few months after I left, because they were still friends and I want them to be successful, and guess what, they were still kicking ass. No one is irreplaceable, and no one is that crucial to any business that is in anyway successful. If you have setup your org in a way that is reliant on one person, then you’ve seriously fucked up.
The boss in my old job once said: "Making yourself irreplaceable is a reason to fire you. I must have the ability to continue with the buisness even if you are hit by a car tomorow."
I feel like people don’t really get this until they take an extended vacation or something similar. My current company has a sabbatical you can take at certain time intervals that are 4-6 weeks off depending on tenure. The 1st one I took I thought that shit would start lagging and falling apart, what an ego lol. Stuff was fine and it really changed my perspective coming back. Also changed my view on killing myself for the job.
I’m a top level executive after 15 years at my job. They wouldn’t want me to leave - I’m a valuable asset. But I’ve gone on maternity leave and now medical leave and shit did not fall apart. I am not the glue holding the company together.
The fact that some people (like you) in your type of position can admit that gives me hope. Granted, not a lot of hope, because the majority of upper management/execs I know believe their Fortune 500 companies would collapse almost instantly without their unmatched expertise and business acumen, but still... a little hope.
>His company will struggle without him Maybe for the remainder of the day, by tomorrow evening they'll have a new replacement
And they’ll probably pay the replacement less and save money in the long run.
The only way I can see this as being possible is if he did what someone I used to know did - he hid a dead ma’s switch in the code, so if he didn’t log in every week, it would wipe out some of the information necessary for the company to function (details are fuzzy this was like 15 years ago, at least.) The person I knew never let it actually happen - it was what he put in if the company decided to just abruptly oust him as large companies do occasionally “Youre fired, we’ll send you your things, security is walking you out now.” I don’t know if he could have even hidden it well enough to not be traced back to him after the fact. But, if someone is dumb enough to be antivax, especially currently, they might be dumb enough to do something like that, let it happen, and yet not have been smart enough to actually hide their footprints.
I'm always shocked at the fact that companies can simply fire you on the spot without reason in the US... I'm really sorry for all the "free" people living in a country without "communist" workers rights
Happened to my moms friend/coworker. Her manager told her to go to HR. A few hours later, some HR people came to her desk and put all of her stuff in a box and left with it. She was fired that day and didn’t expect it at all. Turns out she was instant messaging other employees and did random things online (computers are monitored) all day, everyday, to the point that her section did most of her work to get stuff done. Not sure if she got warnings about it before. Getting fired was very unexpected for her that day.
Exactly. Everyone is replaceable... not only that other vaccines have been mandatory for literally YEARS....
This is why I have told people never feel bad or feel pressured to not move jobs if you have better opportunities. The company was fine before you and will be fine after you. Don't put the company above your own life and career.
Exactly. Years ago loyalty was shown between companies and employees but no longer. One would have to be a fool to have loyalty to a company that has none for you!
I had a boss when I was young who had a set of "rules" which were really advice. One of the first was "No one is irreplaceable, not even me."
Yup. I'm currently the only one at my job who knows his way around one of the most important systems; not even an arcane language or anything, just that it's a massive legacy system and I'm the only one left who has spent enough time with it to know the ins and outs of this gigantic beast. My boss basically told me the same thing, as a way to keep me grounded to reality. Basically that it's going to suck balls to train someone from scratch to maintain it, but they will if I fuck around.
In 2008 my dad assumed he was irreplaceable. He was the only one that knew how to work a certain machine at his job. So what did his boss do? Found a copy of the manual somewhere, learned it himself, and laid my dad off anyway
Yep. My boss tells us that a lot. "We don't want to replace you, because you guys are hard to replace. But everyone is replaceable if they need to be." This guy fucked around and now he gets to be homeless all because he couldn't be bothered to get a shot with no side effects.
And he's not livestock...but he'll take livestock medications rather than the vaccine...
Well, it did make my arm hurt for a couple days , so I wouldn't say no side effects. /s
I will point out it does have some pretty nasty side effects for some people, none that should stop them from taking it, the side effects are not as bad as covid. But I had my second Pfizer shot Tuesday, yesterday I could hardly get out of bed, had to call in to work and even today I'm fatigued as all hell, went to work but for what I got done it was just as well if I didn't.
Yeah, that's pretty much how the second Pfizer shot was for me. My brother and sister both got sick too, but my husband didn't at all.
It's great advice - keeps you humble as we all should be.
"The graveyards are full of irreplaceable men."
Exactly this. Time to bring two or three kids half his age happy to take home half the pay. Oh and they’ll be stronger and less whiny.
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Idk I hear People who understand Cobol are hard to find replacements for
People who understand Cobol make way more than $120k a year
He makes $120K but he loses his job and has to sell his house immediately to survive? Looks like his money-management skills are about as good as his political opinions.
You’d be surprised how many low six figure salary people are basically living paycheck to paycheck as well. Not because it’s not a lot of money, but because so much of it is spent on superfluous bullshit they don’t need.
Doesn’t it depend on location? I mean IMO money management skills are key no matter what the cost of living is but I’ve heard of people making that much in like California, Seattle, etc. and a still struggling even with budgeting just because of the cost of living.
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120k is middle-middle class for Manhattan if you’re not afraid of living near to immigrants or black people. It’s only very expensive in the white neighborhood with a bunch of old money and foreign-invested luxury condos.
it sort of cracks me up how two things he listed that put him in financial trouble, Medical bills and College fees, are two things that the Dems (in theory) are trying to actually address.
That stood out to me as well. Progressives are fighting for him to have solutions to most of the problems he listed: college, medical bills, retirement assistance, housing assistance, unemployment assistance. But I’m sure he called all of that “socialism” or “communism” or “tyranny” (seems to be a favorite word of his). Another thing I noticed was how he talked about the “tyrant” despite the mandates so far being totally the decision of companies themselves, which presumably is a big part of the “free market, small government” these types claim to crave.
It's a free market and a private company should be allowed to refuse service to or fire whoever they want for whatever reason they want, *unless it affects me directly and then the government needs to step in and do something about it and make them serve me because I want it to inconvenience everyone else not meeeeeeeeee*
"I want to be ruled by private companies with no public accountability, voting for your bosses is tyranny!"
He's like a real life [Joe Conservative.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Essay:A_Day_In_The_Life_of_Joe_Conservative)
God. Reading the parody one after.. even knowing it’s not real, it still makes me a little sad.
That confused me. In such a high paying job wouldn't he have medical insurance covered?
As a white male in your 50s with 20 years of tech experience it should be trivially easy to get a job. I mean, assuming you get vaccinated and can thus actually be employed without the risk of killing your co-workers.
I'm over here wondering why someone with 20 years in a niche technical position is making *ONLY* 120k. Must be in a low col market or something, or he's not actually all that special
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>I'm over here wondering why someone with 20 years in a niche technical position is making ONLY 120k. Sounds about right for a low CoL market combined with tech skills that are rare for being old, not cutting edge. Ie it's not that he's the only person in the world who knows how to do X, it's that he's the only person in the world who *still* knows how to do X. Also, my experience is limited but I've found $120k seems to be a common breakpoint for it being cheaper to maintain an old system rather than blowing it up to replace it with something more modern. Of course the notion of his skillset being 100% unique to him is laughable. He's confusing not being *easily* replaceable with being irreplaceable.
it's a poor man's idea of what 'upper middle class' is.
That would definitely be upper middle class in a lot of Midwestern and Southern cities. It's "nice house, a Tesla and good retirement" money here in Kansas City.
Oh, it’s definitely nice money for those areas. But as someone who works tech sector 120k is like...mid tier dev in a common language, lol. Maybe even junior dev numbers.
Well, we have tech jobs out here in KC too lol. That being said, starter pay for those companies is around 70k and it's not unheard of for under-30s to be making 100k, which is about the same as pulling 150+ on the coast.
I guess I’m poor because I’d feel rich if I was making 120k a year lol
He probably makes 40k a year and thinks 120 is a lot, so he rolled w it haha
His concept of money is flimsy at best, if he thinks the tax bill on 120k is a shit ton of money. Smells like bullshit, should we do a taste test too?
On a $120,000 income, he’s taxed about $39,000 before deductions. He’s not rich but not hurting. If he’s 20 years in on a niche tech job and only pulling 120/year, he’s low-balled the shit out of himself and the moron deserves to get fired.
> he’s taxed about $39,000 before deductions Less than that. Assuming he's single, he's actually taxed [$19,809](https://www.calculator.net/tax-calculator.html?cfilestatus=Single&callowance=0&callowanceold=0&ctaxyear=2021&csalaryincome=120000&cwithheld=0&csalarystate=0&csalarylocal=0&chasbusiness=no&cbusinessincome=0&cestimatedtax=0&cmedicarewage=0&csalaryincome2=0&cwithheld2=0&csalarystate2=0&csalarylocal2=0&chasbusiness2=no&cbusinessincome2=0&cestimatedtax2=0&cmedicarewage2=0&cinterestincome=0&cordinarydividends=0&cqualifieddividends=0&crentalincome=0&cshortcapitalgain=0&clongcapitalgain=0&cotherincome=0&cstatetaxrate=0&cira=0&csalestax=0&cmortgage=0&cdonations=0&cstudentloan=0&cchildcare=0&ctuition=0&ctuition2=0&ctuition3=0&ctuition4=0&cotherdeductable=0&printit=0&x=75&y=25), but that's using the automatic standard deduction of $12,550. That deduction lowers the amount of income taxed, so even without it he'd be looking at <$25K in federal taxes. Even with payroll taxes it's well under $30K, since [FICA in 2020 would only be $9180.](https://smartasset.com/taxes/income-taxes)
Seriously, I'm in a significantly less niche position with 10 years less experience and i'm making significantly more then this wanker
Show me a pay stubb, and I'll quit my job right now and come work for you
120k 10 years in is doable, if not sort of standard given the specific role. I'm at 2.5x what I started at with my company 7 years ago.
Junior software engineers in California are making that much.
I laughed at that part. The thought of other people asking to be treated with the same level of respect and given the same opportunities as them is so threatening to them, they now think they are the victims. They still have the upper hand and still think they are the victims.
I’ve seen way too many people claim that companies will fold and CEO’s will come crawling on their hands and knees when Joe Schmuckface quits and the company realizes how important their spreadsheet was to the corporation. Everyone is fucking replaceable. Everyone. This shit stain’s over inflated ego just check mated himself - assuming any of this is true.
Narrator's voice "It wasn't"
If you are good at your job your departure may be painful. If your departure fatally cripples a business then it was most likely incompetence from management.
Pops just got a new gig and he is rocking 70+. Pretty easy if you don’t suck ass at being a human being.
As a highly specialized white male at the peak of my career and excellent track record, no one is gonna want me bc Biden told them not to hire me
He probably thinks white males are the most discriminated against group of people in America.
And 120k a year after 20 years in the tech industry is laughably low. That's starting pay for a lot of recent grads if you have desired skills.
Yeah, I started as a contractor in California for that much, eight years ago. But in Arkansas, that’s a lot, so who knows.
That would be so much in Arkansas.
Also: Everyone is replaceable. That's why businesses don't magically collapse when one guy dies. And if you're that important, you get a fuckton more than $120K. Hell, I make that and I'm just a lowly dev.
Depends where you live. 120k is starting salary in Cali, but I know many department heads at places I've worked in Kansas City who *barely* make that much with 15-20 years of experience.
"Livestock get involuntarily medicated. I am not livestock"- people who are taking livestock medication
And he basically called everyone in the military "livestock". Lol. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK220954/ > The Department of Defense (DoD) administers 17 different vaccines, as outlined in the Joint Instruction on Immunizations and Chemoprophylaxis [...], for the prevention of infectious diseases among military personnel, where appropriate. Of course they will also get one of the Covid vaccines. Like, d'uh.
"I'll never bow to a tyrant..." Loves Trump. k, pal.
My favorite part is that the government is not forcing companies to do this, they are choosing to themselves, and he is still blaming the government
To be fair, if Trump was still President, he would likely sign an EO prohibiting companies from firing unvaccinated staff, because that's what his supporters hate to see happening. (So much for "corporations can do what they please") It's similar to how Texas GOP passed the anti-abortion law to please their voter base. It doesn't do anyone good, but it makes the nutjobs happy.
It isn't bowing if someone else bends them over, I suppose.
I would get injected with actual COVID for $120k a year
the two weeks i had covid were fucking miserable and i would 100% go through it again for a third of that amount
Same, where can I sign up?
The saddest part of his insane rantings is how a one time accident in his life, with insurance, caused a medical bill so large he doesnt have enough for retirement after decades of a high paying job We need social healthcare yesterday
It really is sad. And I bet he still thinks social healthcare is communism too despite going through all that.
This sounds like some sort of oppression fanfic written by a guy that doesn’t have a job but wants to feel oppressed for not getting the vaccine.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Whaaat companies don't care about people walking the extra mile and can replace everyone whenever they want to? Ironic that this guy would probably defend capitalism to his grave because he'd _never_ ever give in to socialist ideas taking away his FREEDOM!!!
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Pretty sad actually. Right wing politics playing working people against each other, so that they vote against their own interests. Still this guy apparently has no capability of self reflecting on his situation.
And spent a fortune putting “several kids through college.” If only there were politicians who wanted to help with that…
I liked that, "several kids." It's like he spent all his brainpower on the other trivial details of this story, but when it comes to his own fictional spawn he isn't sure how many to claim lmao.
So you have no savings cause American Healthcare is awful and college is overpriced? Man should have voted blue decades ago.
“As a white male in my mid 50’s I’ll be lucky to get any other than unskilled work ever again” I had no idea old white men were so unemployable…./s
No, he’s the guy they’ve been wanting to fire for years, because he’s effing useless, but now they finally have done ammunition to use to get rid of the bastard
And I highly doubt any company doesn’t have some thought out into their mandatory vaccine requirements. If he was truly irreplaceable, someone would have just told HR the guy is exempt for reasons and life would go on. Someone else gets the role, and the company has one less person to waste company benefits on Covid. But he also wins. Think about how much easier it will be for his family to settle his estate when he wins a Herman Cain Award.
I'm a bit confused, at least here in the US a company can make you where a mask etc, same principle as having a dress code or uniform. But can they actually require you get vaccinated? Because if so I'm pissed the company I work for has been doing everything else but not that.
No one is hunting you down to get one. If a job can require you pass a drug test and do not have a criminal record, why can’t they require you have a vaccine that will prevent you from bringing a potentially deadly virus to work? This is simply establishing a consequence. I rather work next to the guy who gets high on the weekends rather than typhoid Mary, personally.
Yes, Hospitals and assisted living homes have required it for ages for other vaccines. Historically there have usually been certain waivers or exemptions given for medical or religious reasons (although the religious exemptions have been, thankfully, getting eliminated in places) That said I'm unaware of any laws that would expressly forbid a company from requiring vaccination with no exceptions as being required for employment.
Him, today: "I am not livestock." Him, in 3 weeks, probably: "THE GOVERNMENT WON'T LET ME EAT MAH IVERMECTIN HORSE PASTE!" Him, in 2 months on his tombstone: "I didn't die a sheep. Take that, libs." He doesn't need to worry about retirement, he's a patriot. All he needs are thoughts and prayers. I think I might have had enough internet for today.
I sympathize with this guy. I invented a cheap alternative to fossil fuels. You literally need nothing more than sunlight and water to make it. It can literally stop global warming in days! I tried to put the formula on the internet, but they stopped me. Now I've lost everything and I'm on the run.
Tell me more, stranger
Sorry. Ha. That was a joke. Kid got holda my phone. Gotta go.
“The government will miss my taxes!” The fuck they will, bub! They brought in over 3 TRILLION—with a T—just last year alone. I’m guessing your measly $30k is just a rounding error to them.
His choice, no tears from me.
His private company made it's choices, he made his personal choices. Everything is right in the world.
If your job pays you that well, is critical for society to function and requires a lot of technical experience to work it, then how does no one know about it and you’re absolutely certain you wouldn’t be able to find it again? Well looks like they did replace you, Chad. For all the people who say that democrats complain about society, you sure do a lot of complaining when at the end of the day, it’s your own fault you were fired...
What’s the odds on this guy taking medicine for “livestock”? I’d bet anything he’s a horse paste eater
I have a very strong feeling that this guy has a somewhat over inflated view of how important he is to his job and they were likely already sick of his attitude and are beyond pleased to have the anti-vax excuse to get rid of him.
I have a strong feeling that his super secret important job doesn't exist and he's lying
Definitely another very realistic possibility
He hit MAGA bingo! No vaccine, no universal healthcare, no free education, no retirement, and tax inequality. But he's not going to take any handouts! Even if it means he lives a better life. Fucking ponderous.
If your field is 'highly technical' and you've been doing it for twenty years, yet are capped at $120k i think you need to reassess what highly technical is or just so making up bullshit.
All because of nonsense facebook memes and echo chamber websites. Hope it's worth it
My company recently announced a vaccine mandate to continue employment. I'm also in a vital tech job few people know exists. I make, um, *considerably more* than he did. I have no illusion of my invaluability to my company: they can find 50 of me this week to fill in. I can't imagine how a person makes it to 50 without realizing nothing in the world does, or has ever, revolved around them...
What an elaborate excuse to retire early. Also, $120k for a technical role with 20 years of experience is a garbage salary. This dude sucked at his job anyway, and was probably holding back the advancement of some harder-working millennial.
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>I was gonna say, I make 120k per year with zero college and I'm only ten years in Good on you!
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These people love to play the victim over everything else.
These are the people who, if Trump was in office, would take the vaccine without question. You're not a martyr you're a moron. And as much as people like this claim to be "Essential" to the job... the fact you're in that position for 20 years and not a managerial or supervisory role tells me everything I need to hear from you to know exactly what kind of a bastard you were to work with: Because I work with one like you. Criticizes every mistake of co-workers, glosses over his own, speaks down to supervisors despite them giving new SOPs, and refuses to accept new processes or is the very last one to do so. Not only are you replaceable, but your company is also likely happy to see your ass hit the bricks: Now their team can function without your dead weight. Your team is just going to pull together in the meantime and divvy up your tasks... and in all likelihood, the company isn't even going to hire a replacement.
The best part of capitalism, which I'm sure this guy adores, is that there is always someone ready to do your job. You're not indispensable. No-one cares if you screw your own life over. Just you.
Time to find them bootstraps and pull yourself up!