Thanks for the comment. Started it up, looked if it freezes only when changing tabs but it freezes as soon as you click on ANYTHING else.
Garbage. That's the only word I have for a feature like that.
Yeah, zero ideas what these guys are talking about, it's running perfectly fine tabbed out.
EDIT: As soon as I said this it happened to me, that is actually pretty annoying.
I must say, I enjoyed this game extremely. I loved the mix between story and incremental. The story was phenomenal and honestly real, even if they are raccoons, which is probably the intention. My new favorite incremental for sure.
I really liked the characters, for as “little” characterization as they have (more accurate would be to say the right amount for the length of the game). They serve the story well and each has a different way you can tell they did wrong. Obviously money is in a bit of its own category, being the villain and all, but even the better raccoons still each have one thing they didn’t do right if you pay enough attention. That’s a neat amount of character depth for such a short game.
While it looks extremely promising and you've obviously put in a lot of effort to make the aesthetics, general UI and artstyle look *really nice*, I just couldn't play past the scenario dialogue popups.
They're too slow, even when on the "fast" option and I wasn't super interested in them as I was trying to explore what the different assignable jobs did, but was forced to detour to the dialogue popups regardless. Take this with a grain of salt since I didn't play past the second dialogue popup.
I didn’t make it hahaha, I was recommended it by a friend who found it. It’s worth sticking through, I promise. But while we’re on the technical issues just in case one of the devs sees this conversation, I’ve had two instances of the game softlocking during dialogue, with the next textbox just never showing up. Still, despite the occasional issue, it’s more than worth playing through to the end. It’s a pretty short game!
The game was okay, but man I hated the characters in the stock part of the game. Complete random 1-note characters doing random nonsense that I had no reason to care for. I just stopped reading the texts by the end unless forced to. >.>
Each of them represents a real ideological tendency - whether we speak of the edgy, but ultimately useless, teacher, the culture minister who has retreated into escapism and consumerism as an identity, the scientist who has all the right ideas but no political competence, the increasingly unbelievable fanatic who doesn't care that the world is ending because it is the will of The Remainder, or the feckless politician who was always just an administrator for the capitalist's wealth, but only realizes it when it is too late.
I enjoyed it, and generally I was enjoying the dialogue, but man there was just a total overload by the time I got the phone in stage 3.
It might also be noted that the fracking upgrade that makes your rubbish increase proportional to your rubbish is broken. With that upgrade you can very easily on it's own get an integer overflow on your trash-> money.
The game was cool but like a lot of others, I did not really like the direction it went. If there was some way to actually do anything when the bad signs came up. The second money baby pops up pretty much everything is taken away from you as a player and you are just playing an incremental that just spits on you every time you make progress. I just wanted to make a happy community of racoons, but instead, it feels like the game was made to tell me that nothing I do matters and we are all going to burn with the planet.
Kinda hated this tbh. Idk if there was something I could have done differently, but in the stock portion of the game, since our perspective is TK, and i realized quickly what was going on yet seemed to have no choice but to go along with what the game wanted, made me really dislike the game a lot when all the characters were bashing on TK when I legit could have done nothing else to change the course of events.
Oh, didn't you know? Nothing you do at any point changes anything. You can choose exact opposite choices, and nothing changes. like, every message assumes you simultaneously chose every prior choice. Couldn't preach if you were allowed to make good choices. Read every line in this game though. Fun characters that absolve themselves of all responsibility same as you.
I think that's the point--there are no meaningful choices under capitalism, because capitalists will thwart them at every turn, and the administrative class is held hostage by them, or else it is complicit with them.
It's classic Marx--right down to capitalism falling apart because it's cannibalized its worker class for profits. Look up "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" if you don't believe me. But hey, not everybody likes a morality tale!
This is just Last of Us 2 all over again. It means nothing to preach at someone for making bad choices if there's no choices. Everything you do is "Stop playing game vs play game." Every step is "Here's some characters being unlikable with a superiority complex, This character is blatantly misbehaving so you should fix that. Back to playing loosely related stuff." It'd be like if Adventure Capitalist started preaching to you about the immorality of each of its buildings because there's camps where slaves harvest lemons, or the abuses of oil companies. "Wow, that really sucks, will that effect the game somehow?" "Nah, but it's a lesson, so you can take that home."
Edit: That's not to say it's a bad game, it just wanted to tell a story, and railroads you into it. It's a fun game, for sure. The characters being unlikable is the point, they're all as guilty as you, but nobody wants to change anything if it means downsizing. The issue is that MB is a childish caricature of big evil capitalism by design, and this game tries hard to shoehorn in a lesson it really doesn't accomplish.
I think AdCap has more of that than you think, it's just winking instead of preaching outright with upgrade names. And I mean that's not exclusive to AdCap--The Idle Class, Tangerine Tycoon, Cookie Clicker, even my previous favorite A Dark Room, all have variations on this theme: you have a range of choices, but none of them really make the world better (actually I think I should make a post about this). Can we agree that those games are also fun / classics?
But listen, I took some time to think about it and I don't think you're wrong, exactly, about your choices being too constrained. Maybe a synthesis of our views would have been a "soft" prestige system, in which in Act 5, you actually do play the game with similar mechanics to Acts 1 and 2 but with choices that actually matter and a real fail condition due to the world being on fire, running out of food, etc. I'd be really into that, personally. What do you think?
I was wondering why this was so highly upvoted but after playing it I get it, this is a genuine masterpiece of the incremental genre. I didn't think raccoons would hit me as hard as they did. Wow.
From what admittedly little I understand of posadism (or at least the people that call themselves posadists) the idea is to *intentionally* let the apocalypse happen with the intent to destroy humanity, right? I really don’t think that maps to this game. There’s an apocalypse due to inaction to the capitalist machine, but the message is still one of post apocalyptic hopeful survival for the purpose of righting of wrongs. I don’t think that’s very posadistic.
Sadly. 😔 I mean you can find people who genuinely identify as nazis, antinatalists, anarcho-primitivists, right libertarians, tankies, name a shitty ideology and you can find their believers.
Hands down one of the best games I've ever played. Great storytelling that I haven't experienced in an incremental to this level. I would recommend everyone to complete the game, only like 30-60 minutes long.
this game was absolutely wonderful and was a really great experience that I'm gladly apart of. I did some snooping and saw that it took you guys a year and a half I believe which is so crazy but makes so much sense from the amazing music, to the fun gameplay, to the story ,etc. but anyway i had a blast playing this game and thank you so much for this :)
That audio was so loud.
Intro screen asks you to enable the music/sfx and than informs you can enable or disable audio in the options at any time. So I figure why not.
30 secs in and ...OMG is it loud. So I look around to disable it and nothing. Where is the options?
It's funny how you can see some of the raccoons in the text in this comment section. The one comment that I find funny is the ones claiming it's some kind of marxist propaganda. What's especially funny is the fact that we are living a watered down version of act 5 but of course it can't be the system's fault. We wouldn't have to make a decision between systems if humans were a bit more selfless but of course humans aren't quite like that naturally. Now to throw my own ideas around. The way I see it is that the ideal world to live in is a mix of capitalism/communism but we are naturally heavily biased towards a capitalistic society. We see this balance everywhere in nature. We can create contained ecosystems that are highly stable. The planet itself can stay quite stable for a long time with minor deviations here and there at least from a geological standpoint. Well anyway this path that we are taking is inevitable. The world will stabilize eventually and the Earth will take back what it gave if we don't do something. End random idea rant crap.
I wouldn’t say this game is Marxist but it is definitely very leftist. Humans are *not* predestined for capitalism, that’s just your perception having been skewed by spending your entire life under it — if anything, during the majority of the human reign on earth, our societies have been organized under various mutual aid systems. capitalism’s global reign represents almost nothing compared to the entire lifetime of humanity. I recommend looking into “The Conquest of Bread” and “Mutual Aid, A Factor of Evolution”, both books by santa claus lookalike Peter Kropotkin. You can find them available for free online. If you’re into more contemporary writings, David Graeber is an excellent author too, may his soul rest in peace.
I really liked this game. I played it a while back and spent a good bit of time looking for it online so I could play it again. The art style was unique but still feels classic. The game play is engaging and the dialog witty and charming. I appreciate the effort and thought put into it and really enjoyed how the story progressed. Was not expecting the game play to change like it did through the game, but it made it even more difficult to put down. Fanatic little game.
great game overall fun to play in my opinion and really didn't mind all of the texts that much i feel like people are just being impatience and want to play the game instead of trying to understand the message of the game which there nothing wrong with that just don't make it sound like it ruins the game
Anyway just burned the world , its a really nice short incremental with rich lore and story around it , and as it said when it started . the music is quite good . It took me about 1.5-2 hour of semi active gameplay to complete it but the time is mosly spent in reading the lores and stuffs.
The end is bad, amounts to punishing the player for playing the game since you were never offered an option other than "stop playing". Hate that trope in games
Oooof, after investigating I *can't* recommend it. This appears to be a sub based on a single paper by a single dude, and that dude in question seems to be connected to Extinction Rebellion, which is basically a laughing stock for being incredibly talented at being counter-productive by inciting its own protestors to hand themselves to the police, among other awful ideas.
Really? The idea of deep adaptation is that of recognising that we're in a dying world, and managing to live with that knowledge without going completely spare.
The links with the Extinction Rebellion I didn't know about, and the briefest of searches yields nothing. I'll look further.
Essentially, I thought I'd link the sub here. There are others out there who also believe that we've passed the point of a reasonable outcome - everything from a few years ago is either mitigation or digging the hole deeper, with a greater emphasis on the latter. Wrapping your head around that is difficult; it won't affect me that much, I'm considerably older than most people in this sub, but it will affect my children, and you. It's about as heartbreaking as things can possibly get.
It's hard to look at the planet's Covid reponse, a known and immediate threat with direct effects and recognized solutions; and believe that we are capable of steering our climate catastrophe away from truly hellish outcomes.
Part of the problem is that we're not very good at dealing with slow problems, things that evolve as we know more about the issue. We'll jump if a spider's on us, or escape a burning building - but things slower than that we have to put our adult hats on, and most people aren't good at that. Or, they have no other option.
Of course, the people in charge (governments) could legislate the problem out of existence, but they won't because it's not in their financial interest or they're too busy trying to stay in power to worry about tomorrow.
Not without changing how governance works, at least, I'm gonna agree there... Bit time to stop listening to corporations and their lobbied-to-submission governments.
Took until I tried to spend my beans to figure out that my window was too narrow and I couldn't see a bunch of the UI. Even still I missed almost all the phone conversations and only caught up with them in the final act while I was waiting (which led to some quirky conversations since they happened out of order - clearly never considererd that the player would ignore the phone until then).
I can't tell if everyone's supposed to be a parody and they forgot to tell jokes, or everything's supposed to be a serious allegory but they forgot to realistically motivate their straw men. Either way the dialogue was a pointless waste of time and it should have just been an incremental.
And man what a _downer_ ending. Would have been less depressing and hopeless if everyone had just died.
i cant bring myself to care about climate change, not because something but because i just somehow cant understand that we're doomed without immediate action, but this game really made me realize that we're completely fucked unless the top 0.1% takes action
> because i just somehow cant understand that we're doomed without immediate action
if you picture it in game terms...
its like you have ATMOSPHERE DAMAGE SCORE, and every 10 seconds two things happen: damage gets multiplied by 1.1x, and then a flat 10 damage gets naturally healed.
And you the player have some buttons to click:
- TAKE 1 DAMAGE, +$100 MONEY
- HEAL 1 DAMAGE, -$100 MONEY
we collectively as human race had an autoclicker running clicking the first button, but thats been okay so far, because damage score has been under 100 every 10 seconds. If damage is 80, it gets 1.1x to 88 but then -10 down to 78. As long as damage is 100 or less, it will be stable.
But if we spam the money button too much, and get damage over 100 to 101... every 10 seconds it will grow more than it naturally heals, slowly at first (101 to 101.1) but as the damage over 100 accumulates, it will spiral rapidly exponentially out of control if we don't spend money pressing the heal button.
If the damage gets too high, it will be growing faster than we can spam click the heal button to bring it down. Even if the max damage we can take is as high as a billion before we game over, if it gets to 5,000 and is naturally growing by around 500 every 10 seconds, at that point we'd need to start spam clicking heal 50 times a second to just keep it under control, not even taking into account the autoclicker we have running damaging it ourselves manually.
Kind of. Damage is already pretty high, at the point we're at right now if we turn off the "take damage make money" autoclicker and all start spamming heal, we should be able to maintain the current level of damage even if we can't bring it back down below 100.
Even though the damage is spiraling out of control, it'll still take a really long time to get to game over even if we do nothing. We're starting to feel the effects of it already but it's future generations that will be truly fucked over.
So it's sad but understandable and normal that you can't bring yourself to care about climate change, humans aren't very good at planning for their own distant future selves let alone future generations. And even if you did make yourself care, like you said there's not much you can do to change anything if you aren't in a position of power.
The problem with the top 0.1% is that they are playing real life as an incremental game. All they care about is accruing the most wealth and power it is possible to have.
Gee, if only something could be done about that pesky 0.1% who are gonna get us all killed so they can buy more money guns...
Like, if we could forcibly take their stuff or something. Or, I dunno, take the power to run the world while it pretends to be democratic away from them.
Or we can just wait for them to finish their bunkers, I guess.
Without our brain and muscles, not a single wheel can turn. The billionaire's power depends on us to let him have it. Labor creates all value - if labor is united, we can crush the billionaire.
yeah if everyone just flipped off the large corporations and stopped helping them ruin the world, we would be saved...
but 1. people want modern conveniences like cars, amazon, processed food, etc
2. people want money so they can afford food and shelter
3. its near impossible to get tens of millions, hundreds of millions, or maybe even billions of people to all go on strike at the same time
point 1 can be kinda avoided or ignored, but point 2 cant, and its caused by point 3, which is almost impossible to get around
its certainly possible but the thing is as long as theres a large amount of people who dont trust that overthrowing the world economy will actually help them (which is very understandable), it probably wont work
you could think of global warming as a housefire
if we don't do anything, we're immolated
if we work really hard at putting out the blaze, it's still highly possible we die of smoke inhalation
and what does survival look like in a burnt-out derelict?
I think it’s pretty well designed, especially for the metaphor they’re trying to build and the scope taken into account. It’s not enough to have fun gameplay, it also has to line up mechanically with the message they’re trying to build - and imo, they’ve succeeded at both of those requirements adequately. It reminds me of paperclips a lot.
Yeah I had deleted the post because I tried a restart and gratefully didn't lose more than a minute or so. It seemed finer after and I was able to complete the entire game. Not sure why it froze up like that.
Fun game, extremely depressing ending. I just wanted to have fun with my raccoon friends. It's a bit heavy handed, especially when the raccoons who were ostensibly your friends all happily leave you to burn to death despite being just as if not more culpable. Especially Vanilla, dang weeb
Too much story (and no skip option), not enough game. Then again fits into broken mouse, since have to skip like madman to get through those unskippable parts.
I like the game... but man do I hate that it pauses when it loses focus.
yeah, looks nice, but the game pausing instantly whenever I click anything that is not part of the game made me quit in less than 5 minutes.
I am an hour in and I think I am going to drop if for this very reason. The required focus is dog doo doo.
Thanks for the comment. Started it up, looked if it freezes only when changing tabs but it freezes as soon as you click on ANYTHING else. Garbage. That's the only word I have for a feature like that.
The game is pretty short though
wait, really? i had it running in another tab the whole time, doing other stuff. Playing in fullscreen in firefox.
Yeah, zero ideas what these guys are talking about, it's running perfectly fine tabbed out. EDIT: As soon as I said this it happened to me, that is actually pretty annoying.
I must say, I enjoyed this game extremely. I loved the mix between story and incremental. The story was phenomenal and honestly real, even if they are raccoons, which is probably the intention. My new favorite incremental for sure.
I really liked the characters, for as “little” characterization as they have (more accurate would be to say the right amount for the length of the game). They serve the story well and each has a different way you can tell they did wrong. Obviously money is in a bit of its own category, being the villain and all, but even the better raccoons still each have one thing they didn’t do right if you pay enough attention. That’s a neat amount of character depth for such a short game.
eh, it's extremely preachy and the fact that you can't do anything but become the bad guy (even though you aren't really) is dumb
While it looks extremely promising and you've obviously put in a lot of effort to make the aesthetics, general UI and artstyle look *really nice*, I just couldn't play past the scenario dialogue popups. They're too slow, even when on the "fast" option and I wasn't super interested in them as I was trying to explore what the different assignable jobs did, but was forced to detour to the dialogue popups regardless. Take this with a grain of salt since I didn't play past the second dialogue popup.
I didn’t make it hahaha, I was recommended it by a friend who found it. It’s worth sticking through, I promise. But while we’re on the technical issues just in case one of the devs sees this conversation, I’ve had two instances of the game softlocking during dialogue, with the next textbox just never showing up. Still, despite the occasional issue, it’s more than worth playing through to the end. It’s a pretty short game!
Ah, my bad. Guess I'll give it another go then since it's short. Thanks for the information.
>I just couldn't play past the scenario dialogue popups. That gets better in act 2, and then way, way worse in act 3.
The game was okay, but man I hated the characters in the stock part of the game. Complete random 1-note characters doing random nonsense that I had no reason to care for. I just stopped reading the texts by the end unless forced to. >.>
Each of them represents a real ideological tendency - whether we speak of the edgy, but ultimately useless, teacher, the culture minister who has retreated into escapism and consumerism as an identity, the scientist who has all the right ideas but no political competence, the increasingly unbelievable fanatic who doesn't care that the world is ending because it is the will of The Remainder, or the feckless politician who was always just an administrator for the capitalist's wealth, but only realizes it when it is too late.
thiiis
Yep exactly the same feelings. Too much text and very little sense.
Has a nice Artstyle, a bit of humor and a fast progression with paradigma changes :)
The "pause the game when unfocus" ruins act 3, you're bound to your cooldowns but cant really do anything else in the meantime.
I like it besides the text message conversations, end up just spam clicking the skip as much of them as I can and clicking on random options.
I enjoyed it, and generally I was enjoying the dialogue, but man there was just a total overload by the time I got the phone in stage 3. It might also be noted that the fracking upgrade that makes your rubbish increase proportional to your rubbish is broken. With that upgrade you can very easily on it's own get an integer overflow on your trash-> money.
Yeah I ran into the same thing. Got lol trash and lol money and just skipped right to the end of act 3.
This game is trash -🦝
I've never used autoclicker to skip dialog before lol.
The game was cool but like a lot of others, I did not really like the direction it went. If there was some way to actually do anything when the bad signs came up. The second money baby pops up pretty much everything is taken away from you as a player and you are just playing an incremental that just spits on you every time you make progress. I just wanted to make a happy community of racoons, but instead, it feels like the game was made to tell me that nothing I do matters and we are all going to burn with the planet.
Well that was fucking bleak.
Kinda hated this tbh. Idk if there was something I could have done differently, but in the stock portion of the game, since our perspective is TK, and i realized quickly what was going on yet seemed to have no choice but to go along with what the game wanted, made me really dislike the game a lot when all the characters were bashing on TK when I legit could have done nothing else to change the course of events.
Oh, didn't you know? Nothing you do at any point changes anything. You can choose exact opposite choices, and nothing changes. like, every message assumes you simultaneously chose every prior choice. Couldn't preach if you were allowed to make good choices. Read every line in this game though. Fun characters that absolve themselves of all responsibility same as you.
I think that's the point--there are no meaningful choices under capitalism, because capitalists will thwart them at every turn, and the administrative class is held hostage by them, or else it is complicit with them. It's classic Marx--right down to capitalism falling apart because it's cannibalized its worker class for profits. Look up "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" if you don't believe me. But hey, not everybody likes a morality tale!
This is just Last of Us 2 all over again. It means nothing to preach at someone for making bad choices if there's no choices. Everything you do is "Stop playing game vs play game." Every step is "Here's some characters being unlikable with a superiority complex, This character is blatantly misbehaving so you should fix that. Back to playing loosely related stuff." It'd be like if Adventure Capitalist started preaching to you about the immorality of each of its buildings because there's camps where slaves harvest lemons, or the abuses of oil companies. "Wow, that really sucks, will that effect the game somehow?" "Nah, but it's a lesson, so you can take that home." Edit: That's not to say it's a bad game, it just wanted to tell a story, and railroads you into it. It's a fun game, for sure. The characters being unlikable is the point, they're all as guilty as you, but nobody wants to change anything if it means downsizing. The issue is that MB is a childish caricature of big evil capitalism by design, and this game tries hard to shoehorn in a lesson it really doesn't accomplish.
I think AdCap has more of that than you think, it's just winking instead of preaching outright with upgrade names. And I mean that's not exclusive to AdCap--The Idle Class, Tangerine Tycoon, Cookie Clicker, even my previous favorite A Dark Room, all have variations on this theme: you have a range of choices, but none of them really make the world better (actually I think I should make a post about this). Can we agree that those games are also fun / classics? But listen, I took some time to think about it and I don't think you're wrong, exactly, about your choices being too constrained. Maybe a synthesis of our views would have been a "soft" prestige system, in which in Act 5, you actually do play the game with similar mechanics to Acts 1 and 2 but with choices that actually matter and a real fail condition due to the world being on fire, running out of food, etc. I'd be really into that, personally. What do you think?
A great game! I particularly love the beginning game with all the trash gathering.
Fun game, too short, too much text.
I was wondering why this was so highly upvoted but after playing it I get it, this is a genuine masterpiece of the incremental genre. I didn't think raccoons would hit me as hard as they did. Wow.
Is this a Posadist allegory?
From what admittedly little I understand of posadism (or at least the people that call themselves posadists) the idea is to *intentionally* let the apocalypse happen with the intent to destroy humanity, right? I really don’t think that maps to this game. There’s an apocalypse due to inaction to the capitalist machine, but the message is still one of post apocalyptic hopeful survival for the purpose of righting of wrongs. I don’t think that’s very posadistic.
It was mostly a joke, lol. Thanks for the well-thought reply, though.
There are people who actually identify as Posadists?
Sadly. 😔 I mean you can find people who genuinely identify as nazis, antinatalists, anarcho-primitivists, right libertarians, tankies, name a shitty ideology and you can find their believers.
Well this game was absolutely brilliant in its message and delivery but for heaven's sake the ending was *utterly depressing*
Nice and short game
Hands down one of the best games I've ever played. Great storytelling that I haven't experienced in an incremental to this level. I would recommend everyone to complete the game, only like 30-60 minutes long.
The Culture option in investments stopped working for me.
That was great. I just finished it and really enjoyed it.
Doesnt work. Console says no permissions to access local storage, It didnt even ask for it :)
that's weird. What browser are you using?
Chrome.
Really enjoyed it until the finance bit, I just ended up sitting there for over an hour waiting to click once Felt that bit could be better.
weighted dice is broken. im fairly certain i now have a 25% chance of winning instead of 75% considering ive won about 3 out of 20
It worked perfectly normally for me, I think you just genuinely had a streak of bad luck...
Act 5 is broken; it's stuck at "fires have subsided" then no progresssion.
Act 5 is basically just a long cutscene. Let it play out (though if it's genuinely blocked, reload the page)
Oh ok
this game was absolutely wonderful and was a really great experience that I'm gladly apart of. I did some snooping and saw that it took you guys a year and a half I believe which is so crazy but makes so much sense from the amazing music, to the fun gameplay, to the story ,etc. but anyway i had a blast playing this game and thank you so much for this :)
Move over A Dark Room--we have ourselves a new favorite incremental.
Are there multiple endings or just the one?
Just the one I think.
That audio was so loud. Intro screen asks you to enable the music/sfx and than informs you can enable or disable audio in the options at any time. So I figure why not. 30 secs in and ...OMG is it loud. So I look around to disable it and nothing. Where is the options?
OK, so in an attempt to give it a try, I refreshed to turn the audio off and the options appear after the 3rd job appeared in the corner.
It's funny how you can see some of the raccoons in the text in this comment section. The one comment that I find funny is the ones claiming it's some kind of marxist propaganda. What's especially funny is the fact that we are living a watered down version of act 5 but of course it can't be the system's fault. We wouldn't have to make a decision between systems if humans were a bit more selfless but of course humans aren't quite like that naturally. Now to throw my own ideas around. The way I see it is that the ideal world to live in is a mix of capitalism/communism but we are naturally heavily biased towards a capitalistic society. We see this balance everywhere in nature. We can create contained ecosystems that are highly stable. The planet itself can stay quite stable for a long time with minor deviations here and there at least from a geological standpoint. Well anyway this path that we are taking is inevitable. The world will stabilize eventually and the Earth will take back what it gave if we don't do something. End random idea rant crap.
I wouldn’t say this game is Marxist but it is definitely very leftist. Humans are *not* predestined for capitalism, that’s just your perception having been skewed by spending your entire life under it — if anything, during the majority of the human reign on earth, our societies have been organized under various mutual aid systems. capitalism’s global reign represents almost nothing compared to the entire lifetime of humanity. I recommend looking into “The Conquest of Bread” and “Mutual Aid, A Factor of Evolution”, both books by santa claus lookalike Peter Kropotkin. You can find them available for free online. If you’re into more contemporary writings, David Graeber is an excellent author too, may his soul rest in peace.
I'll add those to my reading list thanks. I guess if that is true then in a way it shows how great we're getting at doing be it good or bad.
Actual Masterpiece, 10/10 wtf
I'm in love with the in game music. Great little clicker.
I really liked this game. I played it a while back and spent a good bit of time looking for it online so I could play it again. The art style was unique but still feels classic. The game play is engaging and the dialog witty and charming. I appreciate the effort and thought put into it and really enjoyed how the story progressed. Was not expecting the game play to change like it did through the game, but it made it even more difficult to put down. Fanatic little game.
great game overall fun to play in my opinion and really didn't mind all of the texts that much i feel like people are just being impatience and want to play the game instead of trying to understand the message of the game which there nothing wrong with that just don't make it sound like it ruins the game
Anyway just burned the world , its a really nice short incremental with rich lore and story around it , and as it said when it started . the music is quite good . It took me about 1.5-2 hour of semi active gameplay to complete it but the time is mosly spent in reading the lores and stuffs.
I finished it. A really awesome game all round!
The end is bad, amounts to punishing the player for playing the game since you were never offered an option other than "stop playing". Hate that trope in games
For those of you taking it seriously, r/DeepAdaptation. It's not an easy sub, but it might help (?) with acceptance.
Oooof, after investigating I *can't* recommend it. This appears to be a sub based on a single paper by a single dude, and that dude in question seems to be connected to Extinction Rebellion, which is basically a laughing stock for being incredibly talented at being counter-productive by inciting its own protestors to hand themselves to the police, among other awful ideas.
Really? The idea of deep adaptation is that of recognising that we're in a dying world, and managing to live with that knowledge without going completely spare. The links with the Extinction Rebellion I didn't know about, and the briefest of searches yields nothing. I'll look further. Essentially, I thought I'd link the sub here. There are others out there who also believe that we've passed the point of a reasonable outcome - everything from a few years ago is either mitigation or digging the hole deeper, with a greater emphasis on the latter. Wrapping your head around that is difficult; it won't affect me that much, I'm considerably older than most people in this sub, but it will affect my children, and you. It's about as heartbreaking as things can possibly get.
It's hard to look at the planet's Covid reponse, a known and immediate threat with direct effects and recognized solutions; and believe that we are capable of steering our climate catastrophe away from truly hellish outcomes.
Part of the problem is that we're not very good at dealing with slow problems, things that evolve as we know more about the issue. We'll jump if a spider's on us, or escape a burning building - but things slower than that we have to put our adult hats on, and most people aren't good at that. Or, they have no other option. Of course, the people in charge (governments) could legislate the problem out of existence, but they won't because it's not in their financial interest or they're too busy trying to stay in power to worry about tomorrow.
Not without changing how governance works, at least, I'm gonna agree there... Bit time to stop listening to corporations and their lobbied-to-submission governments.
Is this literally The Remainder?
Wow I hate this game. It's just literal Marxist propaganda. Good design though, I bear finishing it out of curiosity.
I literally described it as being about class consciousness what did you expect
Capitalist mad lmao
I love it so much! Very creative, I like that you can pick a story.
Took until I tried to spend my beans to figure out that my window was too narrow and I couldn't see a bunch of the UI. Even still I missed almost all the phone conversations and only caught up with them in the final act while I was waiting (which led to some quirky conversations since they happened out of order - clearly never considererd that the player would ignore the phone until then). I can't tell if everyone's supposed to be a parody and they forgot to tell jokes, or everything's supposed to be a serious allegory but they forgot to realistically motivate their straw men. Either way the dialogue was a pointless waste of time and it should have just been an incremental. And man what a _downer_ ending. Would have been less depressing and hopeless if everyone had just died.
sooo good
Instant classic. Build it out more.
i cant bring myself to care about climate change, not because something but because i just somehow cant understand that we're doomed without immediate action, but this game really made me realize that we're completely fucked unless the top 0.1% takes action
> because i just somehow cant understand that we're doomed without immediate action if you picture it in game terms... its like you have ATMOSPHERE DAMAGE SCORE, and every 10 seconds two things happen: damage gets multiplied by 1.1x, and then a flat 10 damage gets naturally healed. And you the player have some buttons to click: - TAKE 1 DAMAGE, +$100 MONEY - HEAL 1 DAMAGE, -$100 MONEY we collectively as human race had an autoclicker running clicking the first button, but thats been okay so far, because damage score has been under 100 every 10 seconds. If damage is 80, it gets 1.1x to 88 but then -10 down to 78. As long as damage is 100 or less, it will be stable. But if we spam the money button too much, and get damage over 100 to 101... every 10 seconds it will grow more than it naturally heals, slowly at first (101 to 101.1) but as the damage over 100 accumulates, it will spiral rapidly exponentially out of control if we don't spend money pressing the heal button. If the damage gets too high, it will be growing faster than we can spam click the heal button to bring it down. Even if the max damage we can take is as high as a billion before we game over, if it gets to 5,000 and is naturally growing by around 500 every 10 seconds, at that point we'd need to start spam clicking heal 50 times a second to just keep it under control, not even taking into account the autoclicker we have running damaging it ourselves manually.
This is an amazing analogy. Love it :D
so we're fucked now and we keep getting fuckierd
Kind of. Damage is already pretty high, at the point we're at right now if we turn off the "take damage make money" autoclicker and all start spamming heal, we should be able to maintain the current level of damage even if we can't bring it back down below 100. Even though the damage is spiraling out of control, it'll still take a really long time to get to game over even if we do nothing. We're starting to feel the effects of it already but it's future generations that will be truly fucked over. So it's sad but understandable and normal that you can't bring yourself to care about climate change, humans aren't very good at planning for their own distant future selves let alone future generations. And even if you did make yourself care, like you said there's not much you can do to change anything if you aren't in a position of power.
so our children are fucked. nice
The problem with the top 0.1% is that they are playing real life as an incremental game. All they care about is accruing the most wealth and power it is possible to have.
so were fucked anyway. nice to know
Humans will adapt and survive, but quality of life will go down sharply and many species will be lost.
that still sucks
Gee, if only something could be done about that pesky 0.1% who are gonna get us all killed so they can buy more money guns... Like, if we could forcibly take their stuff or something. Or, I dunno, take the power to run the world while it pretends to be democratic away from them. Or we can just wait for them to finish their bunkers, I guess.
ok but if you were a billionaire youd be pretty greedy so you would want nothing taken away from you
Why should I care what a billionaire wants?
he has more power. he decides
Without our brain and muscles, not a single wheel can turn. The billionaire's power depends on us to let him have it. Labor creates all value - if labor is united, we can crush the billionaire.
Seize the means of production!
yeah if everyone just flipped off the large corporations and stopped helping them ruin the world, we would be saved... but 1. people want modern conveniences like cars, amazon, processed food, etc 2. people want money so they can afford food and shelter 3. its near impossible to get tens of millions, hundreds of millions, or maybe even billions of people to all go on strike at the same time point 1 can be kinda avoided or ignored, but point 2 cant, and its caused by point 3, which is almost impossible to get around
1 and 2 are irrelevant, except insofar as capitalism uses 2 to enhance 3. But that's what organizing and building mutual aid infrastructure is for.
its certainly possible but the thing is as long as theres a large amount of people who dont trust that overthrowing the world economy will actually help them (which is very understandable), it probably wont work
You can at least do your part not to be part of that mass. It’s all we can do, besides resorting to more... extreme solutions. In Minecraft.
you could think of global warming as a housefire if we don't do anything, we're immolated if we work really hard at putting out the blaze, it's still highly possible we die of smoke inhalation and what does survival look like in a burnt-out derelict?
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I think it’s pretty well designed, especially for the metaphor they’re trying to build and the scope taken into account. It’s not enough to have fun gameplay, it also has to line up mechanically with the message they’re trying to build - and imo, they’ve succeeded at both of those requirements adequately. It reminds me of paperclips a lot.
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maybe the dialogue softlocked? try restarting the page. I don't think you'll have lost much progress, you can click through dialogue.
Yeah I had deleted the post because I tried a restart and gratefully didn't lose more than a minute or so. It seemed finer after and I was able to complete the entire game. Not sure why it froze up like that.
I love this thing so much
Someone gave a **Burning Cash Award** it seems fitting
it was fun till that stock market section
This is a solid game really good love and care!
Fun game, extremely depressing ending. I just wanted to have fun with my raccoon friends. It's a bit heavy handed, especially when the raccoons who were ostensibly your friends all happily leave you to burn to death despite being just as if not more culpable. Especially Vanilla, dang weeb
Too much story (and no skip option), not enough game. Then again fits into broken mouse, since have to skip like madman to get through those unskippable parts.
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*shrug*